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Primitive Hickory Self Bow, how to build a wood long bow or recurve bow 

Clay Hayes
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Learn to build a primitive bow with Clay Hayes. This video will show you how to remove the bark to prepare the back for this hickory self bow. Once the bark is removed, Clay will lay out the bow design in preparation for roughing out the bow.
This technique will work for most whitewood bows, from hard maple and ash to oak, hickory, hornbeam, etc. All you need to do is remove the bark and cambium to reveal the wood beneath.
Future bow building videos in this series will be uploaded to www.patreon.com/clayhayes
There, we'll cover other primitive wood bow designs, recurve bows, longbows, two piece take down bows, arrows, bow strings and much much more.
Learning traditional archery and bow hunting can be a valuable skill set to add to your bushcraft, survival or self reliance knowledge.
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@projectilestuff5954
@projectilestuff5954 6 лет назад
Just received one of your books today and am already half way through with it. The information from the book plus your videos is giving me a much better understanding of how bow building works. You’re a great teacher.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
Thanks Alex, I’m glad you’re enjoying it.
@roberthunter5119
@roberthunter5119 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for every one of your videos. Inspiring to the core.
@MickGrewcock
@MickGrewcock 6 лет назад
Really enjoying this series already. Thanks for this, a great help to new starters and novices like me. Mick
@noblegreen2692
@noblegreen2692 6 лет назад
Mick don't disregard what you are doing for others, what you are doing on your channel is very helpful and full of useful information that is good for everybody to use, even though i've been making bows for almost 5 years i still watch your videos because you have a unique perspective on bow making, thanks for your contribution to the brotherhood of bowyers, Noble
@MickGrewcock
@MickGrewcock 6 лет назад
noble green Wow! That’s kind of you thanks very much. Mick
@noblegreen2692
@noblegreen2692 6 лет назад
Mick i was thinking of sending you one of my white oak staves and challenging you to make a flat bow, how would you feel about that?
@MickGrewcock
@MickGrewcock 6 лет назад
noble green Scared, but grateful!
@noblegreen2692
@noblegreen2692 6 лет назад
great my email is brazillianbbq95@yahoo.com, email me if you would like me to send the stave, noble
@djinn201
@djinn201 5 лет назад
Just getting into traditional bows and archery I'm really eager to make my own thank to your knowledge and skills. Cheers mate. Got get me some patron.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 5 лет назад
Welcome!
@SuperIliete
@SuperIliete 6 лет назад
Great job Clay congratulations and thank you very much.
@stephenlindsey9233
@stephenlindsey9233 2 года назад
Fantastic video! Very informative for a beginner like me. I feel like I have enough knowledge to tr, iton my own.
@HobbitHomes263
@HobbitHomes263 4 года назад
SO much very valuable information to absorb. It is always fun to find new things to use tools for :) The Junkyard Dog got laid-up with cheap automotive fiberglass last night and was set enough this morning to take it out of the form. I had hoped to make it a recurve but even with a borrowed het gun, the oak just would not bend far enough. SO, What I will wind up with is a 60 inch deflex long bow..kinda...sorta. I've made bentwood stuff the oak before so I know if I made a set up to steam the wood I coulda made it work. But the stuff was dead dry after years in the shop rafters. The point of the exercise was to make a boy out of junk that I found laying around the place. 1/4 inch thickness of oak slats was probable too thick for dry bending and three layers of it was way too much. It came out of the mold feeling like an old Dodge leaf spring. Something slipped during the night so the lower limb has more curve to it than the upper so tillering should be interesting! I have no idea if I can make it shoot but I will learn a lot in the process and that all goes into the NEXT bow :) Thanks for getting me a head start with all you do!
@Tradbow85
@Tradbow85 6 лет назад
Been waiting for this, glad you got it out!!!
@rogerdeschenes6749
@rogerdeschenes6749 3 года назад
Love this guy. Good teacher
@rogerdeschenes6749
@rogerdeschenes6749 3 года назад
How long did the stave dry?
@wesleywillard
@wesleywillard 6 лет назад
Woohoo. Nice stuff and extremely helpful. We have Osage but EVEN more hickory where I live.
@graysonsutherlin295
@graysonsutherlin295 4 года назад
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing.
@stephenlindsey9233
@stephenlindsey9233 2 года назад
Great video I'm really interested in anymore about bow building
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад
Lots more vids here on bow building
@mwaaaa
@mwaaaa Год назад
Hey Clay I mes you the other day and I meant to tell you how awesome it was that you made it thru the Alone challenge! It could not have happened to a more deserving person and family than you and yours! I’m going to order one of your books and can’t wait to get it! I wish you the best bud and thanks for all the videos and hard work!
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter Год назад
Hey, thanks!
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 6 лет назад
Since I am a police officer I really sarted apreciating and finding beauty in simplicity and functionality. It may be boring for some people but nothing beats reliability. Which btw often comes along with simplocity :)
@mthompson
@mthompson 6 лет назад
Nice primer, along with reading through your new book lately, as we have the WI BowJam in 10 days. I'm taking several Ash staves I have seasoned.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
Awesome! Have fun.
@jameyhenderson7271
@jameyhenderson7271 5 лет назад
Great video. Im still learning but working on one right now. Thank you
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 5 лет назад
Stick with it!
@BakaEngel
@BakaEngel 4 года назад
Oof, that pun. Great video though, and good luck to the above aspiring bowyer.
@jydymyyyr9630
@jydymyyyr9630 2 года назад
If that's a compressor behind you that keeps starting and stopping, you've got a serious air leak;-) Good info... thanks for posting!
@jeffreyflinkstrom2167
@jeffreyflinkstrom2167 4 года назад
Great stuff, huge fan.!.....
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад
Thanks much
@jrlstables
@jrlstables 5 лет назад
Great videos Clay. Just a thought, make a shave horse for working your staves. I use mine all the time for the beginning stages
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 5 лет назад
I just made two a few days back!
@esf5073
@esf5073 4 года назад
You're videos are so informative - thank you!!Have you made the video you talked about in here? About designing a bow with a high crown vs a flatter crown. Could you point me to it if you have?
@tomcanfield8077
@tomcanfield8077 6 лет назад
I don't know if you have ever covered this. But how do you shoot or hold a bow in relation to eye dominance.
@russelljones3171
@russelljones3171 2 месяца назад
Just watched this video, was wondering why you put your handle in at 1 1/4 and 23/4 from center
@TheLupulalb
@TheLupulalb 5 лет назад
Hello ! in your opinion, which wood is best for the bow, thank you!
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 года назад
When I make a Hickory bow I pull the bark of when she is green. Just kind of pry and pull. That way no way to cut into a growth ring.
@MathieusChainsawCarvings
@MathieusChainsawCarvings 5 лет назад
i feel oak is pretty bad about going beneath the cambium, im an amateur bowyer noobie, ive started backing oak with glass ever since i broke a bow and my wrist hurt for 3 weeks
@HobbitHomes263
@HobbitHomes263 4 года назад
WHat are the trade-offs between limb thickness and limb width?
@nowayjose4073
@nowayjose4073 3 года назад
What should my draw be on a 48in bow?
@jh-lp7cg
@jh-lp7cg 6 лет назад
I just cut a very nice stave of sugar maple and immediately took the bark off. I nicked into a couple spots with my draw knife. One of them is about 1 inch by 3/8 wide. It definitely broke through the outer ring. This is a really nice, straight, sugar maple stave. Is this ruined or can I back it with rawhide and save it? I would hate to lose it. Thank you.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
You could back it.
@douglashudman8170
@douglashudman8170 6 лет назад
Clay, Thank you for the video. They are always very well done, the best I see anywhere. I recently made a bow from a hickory board. It was only 1 1/2 in. wide, 66 in. long and was 41 lbs to begin with. I did not back it, and it took on a lot of set, and ended up around 35 lbs. From what I understand from the bowyers bible, that would indicate it is too narrow for the draw weight. In this video, you were making this bow about 1 1/2 inches wide, and I know you like to make bows around 50 lbs. draw weight. I haven't seen any follow up videos to see how this one turned out, so I am curious if it worked out for you, or if you made it a lighter weight etc. Also, any suggestions on how to get my bow up to a little over 40 lbs?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
Wood species has a lot to do with it. Check out my book and additional content hosted on patreon.com/clayhayes
@ryanb1874
@ryanb1874 2 года назад
Do you know if it was under 8 percent, moisture. ? Yea man, in tradition bowers 4 it talks allot about hickory needing to be extra dry for maximum preformance. And no set.
@ryanb1874
@ryanb1874 2 года назад
Would it be cool to card scrap the cambium off so as to not risk gouging with drawknife, when bard is almost all gone.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад
Yep
@mikebroyles5721
@mikebroyles5721 6 лет назад
Is it best to leave the bark on during drying, or could you remove while green
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
for most wood, you'd want to leave the bark on. For hickory, you could remove while green.
@jeffreyarnold2626
@jeffreyarnold2626 6 лет назад
64" hickory, that will be a snappy fast bow. too bad i can't really use it in wa, but i like the wood. plus side, the shavings make a good smoked anything meat. Clay can i do the hot water thing for the cambium on hackberry?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
I’ve never tried it but I bet it’d work.
@periklistelioridis7659
@periklistelioridis7659 10 месяцев назад
Clay, do you have any tip on how to remove a set from a bow ? ( limbs taking a curve after some time ) Can this be done ?
@swedisharcher9405
@swedisharcher9405 3 года назад
What are whitewoods? We don't use the same way of classifying trees as you do and don't have all the trees you have. And when I search for whitewood it just comes back with tulip/tulip poplar.
@FizzyMcSnap
@FizzyMcSnap 6 лет назад
Just a question while i'm watching: What is a small tree when it comes to crown? I have an ash stave i intend to turn into a bow. It was split from a log that was about 10 inches in diameter, maybe 12. What lenght or width would you recomend? Just remembered another thing; my ash stave has a slight natural reflex to it. Is this a good or bad thing? Best regards, a long time fan :)
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
When I say small I’m talking about around 5 inches or less. This design would work fine for ash.
@williamstewart8449
@williamstewart8449 6 лет назад
I just cut two hickory trees 7 inches in diameter. I split each 4 ways today and was wondering how long should I let them dry before I start anything? I see from another question you say I "could" remove the bark now but what do you do. I normally let them dry with the bark on for at least 2 months or longer. Anything less seems to have string follow in the finished bow. Maybe longer drying time is warranted.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
You can remove the bark and rough the bow out fairly green with hickory but don’t bend it at all until it’s completely dry.
@chrispoteet5327
@chrispoteet5327 6 лет назад
Clay Hayes can I work black locust green also
@larryreese6146
@larryreese6146 4 года назад
Clay, question: why did you choose to use a seasoned piece of wood? Catch that piece of wood in spring or early summer the bark will fairly peak off clean as a whistle and you dont have to shave it off and if you work it down to almost bow thickness and leave it long I should think there would be very little cracking or checking. I'm sure you have a reason. Explain. Also, seems to me if you hung the thing out of the sun but with good air circulation, you could hang a weight from the handle section and force some backset into the stave as it drys.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад
That’s just what I had.
@cadaman2432
@cadaman2432 3 года назад
Can I replace the scraper tool you are using with a machete?
@flybyscy
@flybyscy 5 лет назад
What is meant by white woods? I know that you gave some examples but none of those are found in my area (Saudi Arabia). So I wanted to know what too look for so I can identify local species in my area that can be treated in the same way you would treat white woods. Thanks
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 5 лет назад
It’s a broad generalization and probably not very applicable in other areas.
@hardenpt2522
@hardenpt2522 5 лет назад
Is it better to use the draw knife vs just ripping the bark off with bandsaw? Working on 3 red oak bows and 2 cedar😬
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 5 лет назад
It would be very difficult to not violate the outer growth ring if you used a saw.
@hardenpt2522
@hardenpt2522 5 лет назад
How long did that stave have to dry for? I have hickory, black walnut and chestnut trees in my yard that i want to use. Can i cut a decent limb and just go at it?
@mistiejones9894
@mistiejones9894 2 года назад
A year later, but my question is what draw knife do you use? I am having a hard time finding a quality one that also looks comfortable to use. Of course, all online so I can't feel them.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад
Hey Mistie, most of my knives are old vintage Greenlee knives. You can probably find on on ebay for aroud $80 last I checked. I like a 10" blade.
@michaelpringle804
@michaelpringle804 6 лет назад
Here in central Texas we have a lot of pecan. Can you make a bow from pecan wood?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
You can make a bow from just about anything. The design would just need to complement the wood. For pecan, I’d use this design and add two inches to the length.
@bobrees4363
@bobrees4363 6 лет назад
Just curious, but wouldn't the take the stave in the shower thing kind of defeat the seasoning process?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
It would take a long soak for the moisture to reach very far into the wood.
@bobrees4363
@bobrees4363 6 лет назад
Okay, thanks for the reply.
@davidbum3460
@davidbum3460 6 лет назад
Can you please do a mulberry bow because I just cut a stave and I I can’t find any designs and little things to know about mulberry ps good vid
@woodrowcall3158
@woodrowcall3158 5 лет назад
David Bum Mulberry is a close relative to Osage. The specific gravity is generally lower, but is is easier to find straight grained staves. You can follow any design for Osage and add about a 1/4” to the limb width and you should be good.
@tobagegaagegabot2145
@tobagegaagegabot2145 5 лет назад
hickory is not bad, but nothing to compare with the good old german hazel :-). is this a time-mashine in the background?
@Kurokubi
@Kurokubi 5 лет назад
Looks like a forge fan to me. The forge is on the other side of the wall and whoever is smithing has a switch to turn the fan on and off to control the airflow to the coals. The main reason why they turn it off is to control the heat and prolong the life of the fuel. Source: I'm also a blacksmith.
@Home-ro6cu
@Home-ro6cu 5 лет назад
Is it a big problem of I took all the cambium off of my stave?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 5 лет назад
no, that's what you want to do.
@mattobelix21
@mattobelix21 6 лет назад
Hey clay Most flat bow designs recommend a 66” bow. I’m 6’5” and I draw 30” Do I need to go slightly longer? And if I make a 66” and want/need to shorten it by an inch or so, should it still draw 30”?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
It depends on how confident you are in tillering. I’ve drawn 60 inch recurves to 30 inches but that’s pushing the limits. I think you’ll be ok with 66.
@mattobelix21
@mattobelix21 6 лет назад
Thank you Iv recently finished a elm recurve and heat treated the belly. The tiller looks good to me, but I’ve noticed small diagonal compression cracks mostly near the handle. Is this common or a issue. Regards
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
It’s an indication that the area where the cracks are is doing more work than the other parts of the limb.
@mattobelix21
@mattobelix21 6 лет назад
When making a selfbow with white wood. Is it necessary to chase a ring on the back to remove early wood. Ie if the stave was cut in spring. If so, does it then need to be backed?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
No, just do it like I did in the vid.
@mattobelix21
@mattobelix21 6 лет назад
So what of the early wood, is it not at a detriment to the bow to leave early wood on the back. I had a oak bow break on the first stage of tillering and you could see the early wood on the back of the bow was just like a sponge.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
You’re talking about sapwood. Early wood is different. If you feel better about removing sapwood from a white wood bow, go for it. But it isn’t necessary.
@mattobelix21
@mattobelix21 6 лет назад
Iv made self bows from ash, elm and yew successfully. But the staves iv recently collected, including the oak bow I mentioned. I can see the yearly rings of the stave, both early and late wood. But the back of the stave looks like early wood, soft enough to scrape with your finger nail. This is after the bark and cambium pealed off easily. Thanks for your response.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
Hmm, I've seen old, half rotted oak do that. If that's the case, then yes. Remove anything that doesn't look sound. It may be a good idea to throw some rawhide on the back as well.
@krunopandzic1247
@krunopandzic1247 6 лет назад
As always great video , specialy for beginers. If I my ask how do I get to see a video about making takedown self bow ? I'm not from US (I'm from Bosnia and Herzegovina) so it's a little difficult for me to sing up for patreon, because the overall state that country is in. Maybee it's just me and I don't know how to sing up. Best regards
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
Visit www.patreon.com/clayhayes and select the whitetail level.
@krunopandzic1247
@krunopandzic1247 6 лет назад
Clay Hayes Ok thx for quick answer.
@sparkysushi7259
@sparkysushi7259 3 года назад
How do you feel about bows made from PVC pipes?
@lpdoc3369
@lpdoc3369 Месяц назад
I made one when I was 10 because I kept breaking every wood bow I tried to make. I felt like I came up with something awesome at the time.
@HobbitHomes263
@HobbitHomes263 4 года назад
How about a beam bow? I have a left over 8x14-24ft left over from a project. It's half-heart Doug fir. Might have to back it with some 14 gauge spring steel.... Might be fun to carve a 24 ft long bow out of it and shoot small trees at stuff. Could use the winch on the truck to draw..... Ever spine arrows for a 600lb long bow? FINALLY! the three ridge stick-bow is born! Never be "out of range" again! Was just looking at the Crazy Paper (MOntana hunting regs) Doesn't say anything at all about the SIZE of your bow just a minimum draw weight... Up next..."Spring BEar with My Trebouchet" Brings a whole new meaning to "Crushed that shot!"
@georgeparsons6450
@georgeparsons6450 3 года назад
You can use broken glass for that.
@VroomvroomNY
@VroomvroomNY 4 года назад
Can you use maple?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад
hard maple, yes.
@hankczinaski915
@hankczinaski915 6 лет назад
For some time now, all the language differences have been giving me some trouble. English, Polish and Latin on top. Is that layer really Cambium or is it Phloem? And do English speakers mean Phloem when they talk about "inner bark"? Also I vaguely remember from biology lessons that cambium is microscopic in thickness (I might be wrong on that one). It's fascinating to learn new stuff but sometimes I feel like we should all switch to Latin. :P Especially when it comes to tree species. For example, I've noticed Hackberry is not the same tree for Americans and Europeans. For me it's Prunus Padus but for someone else it might be Celtis. Funny enough, seems that both species make good bows.
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
Ha, you might be right. I can’t remember. I took dendrology way to long ago to remember all the details.
@hankczinaski915
@hankczinaski915 6 лет назад
I'm not sure myself. Would be great if somebody could clarify.
@codydorman7405
@codydorman7405 3 года назад
How about manzanita bows?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 3 года назад
Never tried that
@johnmcgrath8673
@johnmcgrath8673 4 года назад
Clay a great tutorial as usual, but you're upstaged by that furnace and spinning wheel thingy. What the hell is that? You making moonshine back there? :-)
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад
Who knows!
@seanstrickland4970
@seanstrickland4970 4 года назад
It almost looks like a steam generator lol which would be fucking awesome but I'm probably wrong
@freetaylor72
@freetaylor72 6 лет назад
I just went to ur patreon page, is it REALLY 858 dollars a month?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 6 лет назад
That’s the total contribution from all patrons. You can sign up for as little as 5 bucks a month.
@the.reel.mccoy.
@the.reel.mccoy. 4 года назад
Hello Clay, it's me, yet again, sorry for asking so many questions. If someone were able to do so, could they leave the cambium layer on the bow to use it as a form of backing?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад
Backing needs to be strong in tension. Cambium of most species wouldn’t do well under tension.
@the.reel.mccoy.
@the.reel.mccoy. 4 года назад
@@clayhayeshunter Ah, that makes more sense :) So for a plant type like Hickory it would likely be okay because the Cambium is often made into cordage right? Or am I mistaken?
@clayhayeshunter
@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад
I’ve left spots of cambium on the back of hickory but never the whole thing. I can’t say for sure.
@bowermanwinburn6723
@bowermanwinburn6723 3 года назад
I know Stodoys has the best woodworking plans.
@nakoawarrior3186
@nakoawarrior3186 5 лет назад
The video is vague. Because,....people can't see what your doing. Drawing the bow on paper shows people the process. People can see paper. But at least someones trying to show others what and how to do it.
@hafzamacie8858
@hafzamacie8858 3 года назад
Stodoys plans has a lot of plans to choose from.
@nakoawarrior3186
@nakoawarrior3186 5 лет назад
Ideally when the string is aligned with the arrow the full power of the bow is transferred into the arrow. Usually,.. he says the wrong thing and puts his foot in his mouth so far hes right on the money. But making every bow from natural materials is a challenge. You only shape your bow limb's you only draw the handle,............. after you cut the knocks and the bow is tillered,..... that's when you carefully plan your handle,... but remember after you make it you've got to live with it,.... that's when you File your handle out bulbous handle,... not straight only 4 inch's. That's the primitive style but some prefer a shelf. In this video he was exact.....I prefer about 66'' and 2'' For the viewers he should draw the bow on paper so new guy's know how to draw the handle on the bow,... because we can't see what your drawing on the wood,... but we can see a diagram on paper.. great partial video,
@bgilchrist228
@bgilchrist228 5 лет назад
Why don't you make your own video u f in assclown.
@snakeriverscotto
@snakeriverscotto 5 лет назад
Nakoa Warrior I noticed you make plenty of comments on other channels about bow making as well. You seem like you have something to prove, so start posting some of your own content my friend.
@shiraz1339
@shiraz1339 2 года назад
you talk too much .... get on with work
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