Primitive Hunting with Long Arrows 

Hahaha that's a fact

Prof. Ugadugga

Yeah, but he uses copper boppers

They carry so much weight

I.made a 60 sinew backed d bow with snake skins and 36 inch arrows . The bow perform very well. .However my first set of arrows was 28 inches and it shot poorly. I love the way my set up looks especially the long arrows . Hope to harvest a deer with it thank for all ur tips and research .

You're exactly correct

@@arturravenbite1693 Maybe, though you can shoot bare shafts in any length, even off an overdraw.

@@HondoTrailside there's no point other than tuning.

praying for you bro 🙏

@Brian Laundrie The handle burned away and the flint shattered.

I just read that it is because the arrow then doesn't need/needs less fletchings because the long arrow stays stable easier than shot ones without fletchings

@@GLITCHED1 Yeah, but if you have the idea of fletching, or access to feathers, when did it become easier to produce a long arrow, vs. slightly more fletching. Another answer would be that they needed the long arrows to get the spine they needed for the weight of bows they preferred. Or they found them easier to aim, which is something that is happening in barebow target archery. All of the answers are possible, yours is good.

I use long river cane arrows for bow fishing for that reason. Weight and its harder for fish to swim away with a 4-5 foot arrow sticking out of them

Whatever they could find. If it made a nice and bright color after being mixed into a liquid, they'd use it. Plant chlorophyll, red clay, flower heads, improvise and see what works

thank you very much!

haha thank you very much. thanks for following along

PhD level yes, though "caveman" is likely less accurate. We enjoyed the surface of the earth in much larger terrains back then compared to most today. Looking at the houses and buildings we spend much time in, it's almost like we modern folk are the "cave" people, and they were the open sky roamers of the earth...Ryan's videos show this as well.

That is the issue, with carbon, you can basically eliminate arrow weight, and put most of it in the head, and that works best. But by the time you get to that point in technology (you don't actually need the carbon) you have passed the point where bows mattered.

@@HondoTrailside Yes but even in some thick diameter wood long arrows you needed a heavy weight front to get the wood bending around the riser part. These are the stiff arrows using Ash or Siberian/Chinese Elm to use on really heavy bows that some Asians used like Chinees, Mongolian, or some Asian Russian tribes that needed the heavy arrows for the bows styles they had in these Asian bows when shooting the war models or big game models.

thank you very much for that feedback on it!

From (admittedly limited) experience it isn't as critical to spine a really long arrow.

Wow...thats actually a really good thought. That very well could have been how it started.

I agree. In my opinion the bow came before the atlatl(at least in some parts of the world) or they were invented around the same time period.

With all due respect, that's not possible. That would move way over into the arrow being so weighed down and so thick that it wouldn't penetrate. Maybe a spear could weight that and work if thrown by hand, but no bow on the planet could effectively shoot 4000 grains, especially not one made by a pigmy in New Guinea.

@@jammyface3041 all the information is on the Ashby Bow hunting Foundation 4000 grains is a little over half of a pound. Easily shot by a bow with at least lbs of momentum.

@@colbykinney5633 I went on Ashby and nothing of the sort, all I found through lots and lots of searching is an article on Archery talk that mentions it and states it just like you had remembered it but ashby has no such thing. Not calling anyone a liar I promise, I'm just saying I just searched for about 10 minutes and found zero. Someone may have been embellishing. A half lb arrow could not be shot from a hand bow with any kind of speed in order to penetrate an animal. The old War bows shot over a 100 lb pull and their arrows were very heavy. They didn't shoot anything close to half lb arrows. Those arrows were about 1000-1500 grains and were the heaviest arrows in history. Spears are one thing, but I'm sorry I can't believe in an arrow that heavy.

yes for sure, especially in that region. Lot's of bows from places not heavily influenced by horses shot some pretty short bows as well. I would attribute much of this to having a naturally short draw style like I do and being able to have a shorter bow as well

Are you talking about poundage of the string of the actual weight of the wood?

@@twintwo1429 i will take a look😊

40 as a min, and up. but depending on different laws in province's ( Canada) or states ( usa) could be as low as 30lb or up to 50lbs, most ppl tend to 45lb to 55lb I tend to 45 to 50 but have gone to 70lbs, oh yes I shoot ether longbow or recurve, I have no idea for compound bows. point weight plays a big part also. don't try be a speed demon with lightest arrows you can use, heavy is better, if to light , a rib could deflect it or stop it, were as a heavy arrow will blow right though the rib, I tend towards 600 grain Total arrow weight. 200 to 350 grain broad heads. and they will bust though shoulders on deer. also fixed broad heads are better for busting though things, as are 2 blade vrs 3 blade, 3 blades just have more drag as they go though the animal, so a good 45lb bow and around a 550 grain arrow is good penatration, and speed, arrow will probably be a 400 spine, at that bow draw weight, about all the info I can give in a short time. hope it helps .

jerky , pemmican

Al L native americans used to hunt small game with them. I'm pretty sure the force from a sling is enough to kill a deer if it hits the head or at least cripple it, but its hard to get pinpoint accuracy with a sling. with a small animal it doesn't matter because it's probably going to die regardless of where it hits, but it would be pretty cruel to use it against a deer or something bigger. Chances of missing and causing a nonfatal wound are pretty high.

you never know. The possibilities of discovery are endless

Musashi

IIRC aztecs used atlatls for war and hunted with bows

Depends on the state.

seems like it is ok in most states, but it is not uncommon for a state to specify "metal edges." i put a link up but the comment got deleted, by the spam filter i guess

It’s only based on ignorance where it is illegal.

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