GRRM has said dragons are usually very resistant to fire so they mostly attack each other with their claws and tails, but if a dragon is younger it isn’t as resistant as an older one, therefore Sunfyre was much more vulnerable to the dragon fire. That’s also why it doesn’t seem like Vhaegar and Meleys are doing much damage to each other with dragon fire, since they are both much older than Sunfyre.
Vhagar is the oldest dragon alive (as they say), She was once ridden by Aegon the Conqueror's sister-wife, Visenya Targaryen. She's one of the OG three, Other two being Balerion and Meraxes (we saw their skulls). Vhagar was also ridden by Daemon's father and later by his ex-wife. Meleys was the Dragon of Daemon's mother, before she was claimed by Rhaenys. Meleys was the fastest dragon in the world too.
Just a note about the Targaryen history: Daenerys' father was the mad king his name was Aerys 2nd but there were 9 Targaryen Kings (200yrs) between him and Aegon 2nd (the main aegon in this show) and before him there were 4 Targaryen kings (130yrs) between him and Aegon the conqueror.
@@Bayard1503why you gotta be mean for not everyone is a geek like us so idk what your point is … anyways yeah this story is basically the end of the dragons for the Targaryens
Corlys and Rhaenys did love each other. But Corlys is known in-world as the gretest naval explorer maybe ever in Westeros. He made many years-long voyages. It isnt so strange that he could have sired a bastard during one of htem when you think about it some more.
True... but we know from the book that the mother of the bastards was a merchant captain from the island. She didn't go with him on his voyages. He had the affair while at home.
Alicent is a BIG reason for how Aegon and Aemond turned out so she shouldn't at all be surprised with how they turned out lol. That's another big difference between her and Rhynera, She's never had time for her children, because she was plotting with her father the entire time while Rhynera was there to teach her diplomacy, respobsibilty, how to lead, and showed them constant love and care. Alicent used hers for power and never prepared him for it, or cared what he wanted cause Aegon never wanted to be king to begin with! Rhyneays & Meleys is a LEGEND went outlike any dragonrider would want to fulfillings their duty and going out in blood and fire! remember she was sent their to defend that place so she can't just abandon her allies like that especially since it's one of Rhyneras' council members home. Also Aemond DEFIENTLY tried to kill Aegon when he attacked both dragons, and Cole is the closets thing those boys have to a father and vice versa so yeah he was def upset to see Aegon like that especially since he saw who did it. Great reaction as always!
Just to clarify Vhgahar & Meleys are female dragons, also Corlys and Rhyneays marriage was poltical but they grew to love eachother over time so it still hurt her a good bit anyways.
Alicent wasn't plotting - in fact from episode 2 - 5 in season 1 we see here constantly defend Rhaenyra and her claim. Moreover, Alicent was forced into her position by her father, she didn't have a choice on who to marry as a 15 year old girl. Viserys is the one who put Alicent and her kids in danger by having a first born son and then doing nothing to ensure the family stayed united, and Rhaenyra's claim protect despite the rival claim from Aegon. Otto and the small council had been plotting to usurp Rhaenyra for YEARS and Alicent wasn't even aware of the plots until Viserys died. Who was Aemond and Aegon's father? Why does Viserys never get any blame or take any accountability for raising his sons? I mean damn, the dude didn't even prepare Rhaenyra to rule - didn't do anything to shore up her claim, didn't teach her about war or military strategy, didn't boost her popularity amongst the small-folk and he didn't even make new high lords come back to KL to renew their vows of loyalty. Viserys failed all of his children but for some reason all the blame is dumped onto Alicent who was a child herself when she became a mother.
Her only use she ever saw for her children was a way to get to power... even a couple episodes earlier she didn't want to comfort Aegon, she was there to manipulate him and because he was crying she couldn't do it so she just left. She's a HORRIBLE mother, she messed up all her 3 childrein in KL. Helaena has prophetic dreams, that was something to be celebrated by a true Targaryen family but because of that she was sidelined, ignored... Aegon just wants to be consulted and he's not at all. The only child that turned out alright is Daeron who was raised in Oldtown by Alicent's uncle.
Alicent was a CHILD who had children. You cannot parent correctly when you're that young. If anything Viserys should've done better. At least Rhaenyra had the luxury of having children when she was older and could do it right. You guys just love shitt!ng on Alicent's character. If you don't own the intelligence to think beyond subtext and nuance maybe HOTD isn't for you.
She had the chance to kill them all at the end of S1 but didn't take it, and it led to the death or her grandson, she wasn't gonna let another opportunity go even if it meant her death
@@aj897 She was doing her duty she had to stay regardless that was her place to protect along with the men there. You do not abandon allies in the middle of a battle/war especially one of your fellow council members homes/people.
100% agree. I also think that a lot of reactors forget that Rhaenys was tasked with winning this battle. There was no running away especially since Vhagar was right there and Meleys was holding her own @KTS.
@@Sleepingcoffee979then she loses many allies because it gives the notion that team black abandons and leaves their allied houses to die. She had to stay.
A little points tou might not have got from this episode: -Vhagar is a she dragon -Cole made sure to send the people he defeated previously to the frontline that way they're sacrificed to meyles -if you don't know meleys and vhagar used to fly together vhagar was the dragon of baelon the brave he was viserys and daemon's father while meleys was their mother's dragon -Aegon isn't fluent in high valyrian -All the targaryen's we have seen so far are descendants of aegon the conqueror -rhaenyra is daenerys's great great great great great grandmother -william blackwood who joined daemon is the same kid we saw in season 1 that asked to marry rhaenyra and then killed one of the braken for insulting him -rhaenys turned back because she thought if she killed vhagar the war would've been over
True but she was still pushing and hyping him up for a role he didn't ask for so it was sorta that at the same time. Aegon didn't want nothing to do with throne all his life but Alicent kept pushing how he's this "chosen one"
“You had more pressing matters to attend to. Such as holding court, choosing your sobriquet, and naming imbecilic lickspittles to our Kingsguard. Do you have a wiser strategy, my king? If so, you should voice it to your council. We all await your answer.” Aemond speaking High-Valyrian gave me the chills. Lines like these are one of the reasons Aemond is my favorite.
I don't even think it was necessarily that. Objectively speaking, she knows she has a duty to do as much as she can with Maelys. Aegon needed to be stopped, plus she couldn't know Aemond would be there. I think in her mind, she knew Aemond would be next in line after Aegon and she could not let that stand. So she did as much as she could to try and stop both. Honestly if I was in her position I would have done the same thing. RIP Rhaenys ❤😢
19:27 what? she was dumb af the sacrifices that were made to put him there, eventhough he didn't want it and now that he is there and asks what to do, she says "do nothing, just smile and wave" so he's her pawn? that must feel great to hear, coming from your mother
and mentioning the ratcatchers was also dumb af they hanged because one of the killed his son, did she do anything of that magnitude? why would he do it to her? total lack of awarness from Alicent...
Aegon is old enough to show restraint, patience and practice listening to those wiser than him. But he can't because BOTH Alicent AND Viserys failed him. Everyone is so eager to blame Alicent for her motherhood as if she holds the exclusive responsibility of raising a son. Viserys severely neglected his kids by Alicent but failed his entire family. He started this crisis by not clarifying the succession and bolstering Rhaenyra's claim after the birth of Aegon. He did almost nothing to prepare Rhaenyra to rule and did nothing to ensure both sides of the family stayed united and loyal. Viserys is as much to blame for the mess that is Aegon as much as Alicent.
@@andilezulu292 yeah but Viserys isn't here anymore, Alicent is and in this scene Aegon was humble and honest, he asked Alicent for advice and instead of being constructive she tossed him aside that was a huge mistake and very dumb
@@davidnobre5660 Why can't Aegon take responsibility for his actions? I don't disagree that Alicent is not a great mother but Aegon is old enough to control his impulses and manage his insecurity. Like i get he craves love and validation but you're treating him like a child - dude made a tragic and bad choice. I'm just sick of this fandom using Alicent as a scape goat for every bad thing that happens or every whack decision someone makes. Would you blame Viserys for when Daemon took dragonstone and stole and egg because his brother shouted at him?
Completely disagree with liking how Alicent spoke to Aegon in that scene tbh. I think a lot of people watch it and are just gonna see it as a girlboss moment but it's really her being a genuinely awful mother and person. Aegon has clearly never felt that she loved him and throughout this season and the end of the last one he's come to her for something, ANYTHING, and been dismissed or belittled. I mean she literally kidnapped him and forced him to become King, he just lost his son and he feels utterly useless and unloved and instead of taking him in hand she fumbles her chance to make a difference in her son by putting him down. He's no innocent but I read that scene very very differently.
@milfordgunnie4599 what r u talking about . Do you think a king can't listen and learn when your young especially when you yourself ain't the sharpest.
@@Sleepingcoffee979 If you're young, inexperienced, and unintelligent then you shouldn't have been made king. The Greens built their own ruin by making Aegon king and then expecting him to do nothing. I can't blame Aegon for that.
Vhagar is a girl and no one inherits dragons. You choose your own. Caraxes belonged to Rhaenys father and Meleys belonged to mother. You choose which fits your personality. Meleys is also a girl
You guys are amazing. You post HOTD reactions asap/less than one week after it first aired while other popular, greedy reactors still haven't uploaded their YT version reactions yet and hiding it behind their patreons
I crave so much more of seeing the riders' bonds with their dragons! As much as I admire the understanding and respect Rhaenys and Melys had for each other, Aegon smiling and embracing Sunfyre while Sunfyre's clearly shown enjoying Aegon's company as well really brought a much needed emotional connection to his character. I loved seeing that side of him!
I’m happy that y’all enjoyed your family trip, Sam and Dani. The reaction might be a bit late, but it it’s well worth the wait. We the appreciate all powering through all the technical difficulties to give it to us. I really love that my guy Aemond is pulling such a strong, passionate reactions from y’all, particularly Morgan. Aemond better be careful, she might put a price on his head😅😅😅. This Dance of the Dragons is a tragedy more than anything, very Greek like in that regard. Also Vhagar and Meleys are both lady dragons. Shout-out to Sam for seeing the vision on Aemond 💚💚 This one of the React Packs top rank reactions.
To everyone who dogs on Daemon he was the only one who proposed a solid plan to avoid the death of all these dragons, back on episode 1 when he offered Rhaenys and Meleys to join him and Caraxes in taking out Vhagar. That was the only possible plan to kill this dragon, their biggest two vs her. You reap what you sow I guess, while everyone was being cautious and warming up to the inevitable war Daemon was ready to go. Also Vhagar is so big she probably doesnt fit in the dragon pit so she either is flying Aemond on patrols or sleeping outside the walls of Kings Landing. Somewhat "easy" target if you want to avoid the scorpions. RIP Meleys and Rhaenys. Sunfyre will have his revenge in due time. 😉
He's very obviously reaching for his scabbard and about to sheathe his sword though, which he does as he completes the motion after he sees Cole. It's meant as an ambiguous shot, but at that point Aemond has already achieved what he wanted, he knows he's going to be regent at that point anyway. Like Daemon he still has some love for his brother deep down, although not nearly as much.
Reason why she keep turning around was because people always told her she could had ended all of them but she let them live back when she escape. She didn't wanted to walk away anymore.
People didn’t marry out of love during the Middle Ages. It was out of business or necessity. They may fall in love naturally after being together for so long but it’s not why they got together. Also Rhaenys wanted to die a warriors death, she already knew about Corlys affair, I don’t think she cared
Agreed, generally Rhaenys was kind of useless. It would have been a better help to the Black's if she just killed herself off in some cave. And not take "The Red Queen" with her.
She said you know what Aemond is, not Aegon…… lmao. Praising her being a horrible mother, classic. Edit: 21:01 Whines for some faceless rando but celebrates any Green death 😂 crying over a spoiled princess while peasant men burn too.
Rhaenys couldn't have run away because she was there to defend Rook's Rest for their side. If she'd fled it would've shown that Rhaenyra's side were cowards who abandoned their vassals.
Everyone confused why Rhaenys turned around and fought like she doesn’t have the highest kill count in the show and is described as a warrior she knew she could of ended the war right there if she took about Aemond and she already spared them before so she felt guilty
The scene where aegon see's sunfire is the most genuine scene ive seen aegon happy.. His so tragic he just wants to prove himselfe for the role that he didn't want in the first place hes awful but most of the characters in this show are.
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Aegon = Anakin Skywalker... As a child not destined for greatness, linked with a prophecy, not trained properly for the upcoming tasks, makes horrible mistakes, is kept on a short leash, then snaps and doesn't overcome his arrogance to now hang on a thread between life and death. Amazing writing without actually copying anything.
No offense, but that is truly the dumbest comparison I've seen in my entire life. If it were satire it would be funny, but you actually seem to be serious.
4:08 the war couldnt have ended there. Two murdered children, declarations of war, armies in play... good luck stopping it now Harrenhal was burned by aegon I during his conquest. Hopefully we will eventually get to watch this unless the conquest show gets cancelled "She just sacrificed the brackens like that" the brackens have nothing to do with this battle. The blacks have meleys, rhaenys and the defensive forces of the castle. The greens have aemond and vhagar, aegon and sunfyre, the targaryen army and the forces of houses rosby, stokesworth and darklyn Rhaenys' dragon is meleys not caraxes "What is he doing?!" Finishing what he started. Aemond stayed behind hoping aegon would die, he burned him attempting to kill him. Aemond tried to murder the king for the way aegon treated him his entire life and for how much aegon would detrement the war effort
@@dariontargaryen Negative. That's Aegon III that has children with Jaehaera. Rhaenyra's son Viserys weds Larra Rogare and their children Aegon IV and Naerys have direct lineage to Daenerys. In fact, Alicent's line ends with her great grandchildren Daeron, Baelor, Daena Rhaena and Elaena (children of Aegon III).
Fun facts: meleys used to be daemon’s mother’s dragon and vhagar was his father’s dragon, daemon tried to bind with meleys before rheanys did but she refused him so he ended up with caraxes
16:32 He was the young kid who fought the older Bracken guy and won last season. 19:40 she said Aemond there, not Aegon 30:13 that's Daemon's dragon, hers is called Meleyse 30:33 Vhagar and Meleyse are she dragons btw
Dragons being in-universe metaphors for nuclear weapons really comes out to play during those last scenes.. eerily similar to witness testimonies from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Would be an interesting arc for Cole if he actually has to reckon with the madness of it all.
I don't know who expects to know if reactors like a show or not. The best method is to see if a reactor channel has ever stopped watching a show and said it was because they didn't like it. Those channels are very rare, I've almost never seen a reactor say they don't like a show. It's a business, they make money by liking things. Just like other business in other areas, making an integrity decision, like being honest when you don't like a show, usually only costs you money. There is no benefit. I don't think I've ever seen The React Pack have a negative opinion of a show, so I can never be sure anything they seem to enjoy is genuine. But I like the fantasy of thinking they enjoy the shows I enjoy.
Rhaenys Velaryon - The butcher of King's Landing, crushed by the very dragon she used to crush hundreds of innocent men, women, and children in the dragon pit without the slightest hint of remorse - poetic justice.
Sunfyre was just playing thinking he was going for a fun ride with his drunk rider i knew he was fucked after Aegon start the fight with fire to blind them both lol i fell bad for the dragon😞
meleys and reanys coudtn run cause than other castle lords would see that she abondened them and they woudnt help them anymore and turn to the greens she had no other choice than too fight
Remember the show runners are extremely team black . They haven't any thing bad rhaenyra has done in the books , since season 1 they just completely ommit those moments. and they add bad scenes for the greens. Rhaenys KILLED hundres of innocents when she did her appareance in aegons crown . Literally humble people of kings landing that were innocent. But the show ignores this unlike the book that does remembers this , rhaenys was a killer of innocents. But in the show she is a hero. the showrunners show too much they are extermely team black again
Rhaenys had no choice. If you had no other option to survive than to kill 100 people, would you do it? You might tell yourself that you'd just let yourself die instead, but when push comes to shove you wouldn't. That's why it's not made any further deal of, unlike what a bunch of ignorant idiots keep harping on and on about. I do agree that the Blacks are being made out to be more of the "good guys", which definitely shouldn't be the case, but using that example with Rhaenys over and over again is just braindead.
They even added the rape and fighting pit part to paint Aegon as evil. Condal might as well just have team black clean sweep the greens in 5 minutes and end this farce of multifaceted story. ‘Choose a side’ mf HOW?! How can I effectively choose a side when you go out of your way to paint one as team evil of eviltown? The audience has been robbed of all choice and nuance.
Rhaenys escaping through the dragon pit was dumb and made no sense but it wasn’t in the book at all, it was a show addition so I’m not sure what you mean by the book remembers. Although I’m sure every dragon rider probably ends up killing a lot of innocents by the end of the war.
