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@MoxieBoosted 8 месяцев назад

Ive just been informed that the yipee little dude is a character associated with the autistic community. Didnt mean to offend anyone, I'm actually autistic as well. I thought it was just the cute yippee guy.

@PKshockwave 8 месяцев назад

For real? Also nice pic for the new channel. You are missing your Donductor hat and at least a little Tatsugiri on your shoulder. Get with it, Marcos. 😂

@MoxieBoosted 8 месяцев назад

@PKshockwave ye, I don't talk about it much cause it's actually something I only learned this year. Explains alot about my life growing up though. Always nice to get some kind of answer to why I didn't feel like I fit in at times and was REAAAAAALLY into pokemon.

@420basco 8 месяцев назад

yipee creature is my spirit animal

@murkiri 8 месяцев назад

being completely serious, I (the editor) am also autistic btw

@BlazingJ972 8 месяцев назад

As an autistic person myself, I had zero clue about that association. Your not on my radar, I promise

@yeager1957 8 месяцев назад

I’m surprised you didn’t mention that both Urshifu forms have the same sprite in team preview

@MrE2000 8 месяцев назад

True it’s a nightmare

@tysondennis1016 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, that's so evil.

@eloylopez8929 8 месяцев назад

This shit right here keeps me up at night

@ryanbranch1430 8 месяцев назад

Regional variants show up, why not Ursh variants??

@peshomighty5051 8 месяцев назад

My favourite Pokemon is shedinja. And I like immunities, gimmick and ghost types. And in every gen I use the grass starters because green in good.

@bluekirby_64 8 месяцев назад

I hate Smeargle competitively because it got Dark Void gutted. Not letting Smeargle use it was enough, there was no reason to also lower its accuracy for Darkrai.

@tsukainova1928 8 месяцев назад

They really need to unerf it and probably make a list of "unsketchable" moves so we won't have the same problem in the future

@Absolutehugemoron 8 месяцев назад

Same

@Abdul54cp 8 месяцев назад

@@tsukainova1928it alr is unsketchable

@bigmoist990 8 месяцев назад

I hope it stays that way because people are upset about the nerf

@tomwantshelp 8 месяцев назад

There is a list, includes moved that are mechanically unsketchable like Assist as well as things specifically coded that way like Hyperspace Fury.

@sealeo5772 8 месяцев назад

If only Gamefreak thought the same way they did with regidrago as they did with Zamazenta. Regidrago gets to keep its crazy ability and gets buffed with actual coverage, Zamazenta is punished even harder than Zacian for the sins of only one dog.

@Mut-ant 8 месяцев назад

nahnah, it actually got stab body press in gen 9!

@gebis8515 8 месяцев назад

⁠⁠@@Mut-antAlthough this channel is focused on VGC, in Smogon singles Zamazenta actually dropped to the standard OU tier instead of being on the Ubers ban list. Granted the Crowned form did eventually get banned again, but any form of a mascot legendary not being banned is insane. Also even with Body Press Zamazenta still won’t be good in VGC.

@herhhetj5372 8 месяцев назад

@@gebis8515I think gaining body press is worth losing some defence. If it didn't get nerfed but no body press its still gonna remain OU. No one uses zama in Ubers anyway so why are people complaining 😅.

@nomihabo9752 4 месяца назад

@@gebis8515 yeah about that

@MelodyLumina Месяц назад

@@gebis8515zamazenta is actually shaping up to be super good this format

@Leaf_VT 8 месяцев назад

"there aren't a lot of VGC video essayist out there" I is so right and we need more I want to sit here and hear about VGC for 2 hours

@edwuano7 8 месяцев назад

right? it feels like there's so much i'm left out on. everyone talks about smogon formats.

@ignacioperez5479 8 месяцев назад

wolfey got a channel

@edwuano7 8 месяцев назад

@@ignacioperez5479 you right

@StickMaster500 8 месяцев назад

If you think about it, the most hated Pokemon is likely a Pokemon that has _yet_ to exist 🙂

@RFDN0 8 месяцев назад

If it doesn't exist yet, then it can not be hated.

@Wither1224 8 месяцев назад

no it's Lando T

@officersoulknight6321 8 месяцев назад

From my Time Machine… yall aren’t ready for the havoc Rolobaro will have on the meta

@MapleLunii 8 месяцев назад

Wait til you see Krunglo

@walacegabriel6143 8 месяцев назад

@@officersoulknight6321what about kengrildin?, with the ability ground sparker that lets its eltric stabs hit ground types and set eletric terrain

@banobobot 8 месяцев назад

The thought of Shedinja being in Generation IX would be terrifying since it would be able to make use of Terastallization.

@zachg5856 7 месяцев назад

Oh god air balloon telestalized electric

@thelasagnaman3765 7 месяцев назад

Sandstorm

@juannaym8488 7 месяцев назад

wonder guard could be changed into only making shedinja immune to the types that ghost/bug in particular isn't weak to. this way, something like tera electric air balloon shed could still be beaten

@Endershock1678 2 месяца назад

@@juannaym8488 Ogerpon Fire smiles and waves.

@GeorgeDCowley 17 дней назад

@@juannaym8488 It could become immune to ghost in that case, but it would still be an improvement.

@slackermaru4045 8 месяцев назад

Honourable mention to closed sheet Dondozo with the perfect set and tera type to beat your specific Dondozo counter

@haydeniskander5306 8 месяцев назад

The worst part about Unseen Fist in my opinion is the pins it can create alongside Fake Out, which oftentimes are just auto-KO's on anything lacking either Covert Cloak or Ghost-typing.

@Endershock1678 8 месяцев назад

Other than ability, the moves are also insane. Always critting means you ignore defence boosts can't be slowed down by intimidate, the multi hit nature of Surging Strikes means Focus Sash does nothing to it, and it also has stab Close Combat to pesky steel types.

@haydeniskander5306 8 месяцев назад

@@Endershock1678 Oh, I agree that all of that is a bunch of BS. ! The interaction of Unseen Fist with Fake Out is simply the most egregious of the BS to me, in a sea of jello-brained BS.

@haydeniskander5306 8 месяцев назад

Also, I think that nerfing Unseen Fist to only work once per switch in, or even just allowing Protect to block Urshifu's Critical-hits, would go a long way in making the Ability more manageable.

@ReidnReactn 8 месяцев назад

@@haydeniskander5306no need to rework my goat

@davidtowers1863 8 месяцев назад

Yeah. I think pokemon is most fun without junk like urshifu

@justindekoning9988 8 месяцев назад

The worst thing about Regieleki is that it invalidates like 90% of Pokemom in the game. Anything relying on its speed stat is as good as useless against it. Anything else trying to control speed is just worse unless its trick room and it can obliderate most pokemon that dont resist electric. Its not even horribly frail so priorty atatcks are only somewhat useful to finish it off

@omarpride3021 8 месяцев назад

Remember it can out speed trick room 💀

@rileyackison4495 8 месяцев назад

@@omarpride3021not in vgc

@tysondennis1016 8 месяцев назад

I admit it, Cresselia is slowly rising to be one of the Pokémon I hate having to deal with. She's ridiculously bulky, and can do shit like Ally Switch, Trick Room, and Lunar Blessing that can feel cheap at times.

@omarpride3021 8 месяцев назад

They even decided to nerf her, I don’t like that 😢

@tysondennis1016 8 месяцев назад

@@omarpride3021 Cress is still annoying when nerfed

@silvercomics3517 8 месяцев назад

Poor Zamazenta, it wasn’t even very good in the first place but because it’s counterpart was too strong it got nerfed too. Compare this to Regidrago and Regieleki where only one of them got needed.

@DerpySuX 8 месяцев назад

Correction about Urshifu in BSS, unseen fist absolutely IS a huge deal. Pokémon like Dondozo and Toxapex commonly run protect (or baneful bunker in Toxapex’s case) to scout intentions of choiced mons. Garganacl also often runs a late game wincon set that utilizes substitute + protect to maximize salt cure chip damage. Protect + leftovers is also usually Dondozo’s sole source of recovery. Urshifu being able to bypass these defensive options that many BSS teams rely on for a shred of stability in regulation D completely throws balance out of the window, Urshifu Rapid Strike in particular is the only Mon that competes with Dragonite for the title of best BSS mon almost solely because of unseen fist.

@magronorph5029 8 месяцев назад

If shedinja returned in gen 9 it would need to have some sort of extra restrictions on it. Otherwise tera electric + air balloon would only allow it to be KO'd by status and weather.

@GameZone-ib7eu 6 месяцев назад

Or by Pokémons with mold breaker

@jmurray1110 5 месяцев назад

Mold breaker and sandstorm will it instantly

@Endershock1678 2 месяца назад

@@GameZone-ib7eu Yeah, but it’s not like they released any good mold breaker Pokémon who also happens to be insanely good and high usage… oh wait.

@MelodyLumina Месяц назад

shedinja didn't end up in gen 9(thankfully) but tbh given how weird of a mon it already is i could've seen it just,, not being allowed to tera

@GeorgeDCowley 17 дней назад

@@jmurray1110 Also, there's that status move that removes items.

@TheRealDuster 8 месяцев назад

As a dedicated Armarouge player, I can sense the rage on the other side of the screen. And i like it.😈

@noxiebobo 8 месяцев назад

You are a monster

@orokinchi 8 месяцев назад

Based bug fables pfp

@TheRealDuster 8 месяцев назад

@orokinchi7875 Yay! someone recognizes my pfp!

@SPZ-gv2on 8 месяцев назад

Great pfp but I despise indeerouge. You got something right at least, bug fables is great.

@cmv_1869 8 месяцев назад

A fellow IndeeRouge user here. Love beating up my little brother with them

@ismael8926 8 месяцев назад

Little Timmy being roasted out of thin air

@sanderbeljaars5404 8 месяцев назад

Armarouge + Indeedee is the main reason why i run Snarl instead of Eerie Impulse on my Thundurus, kinda underrated move on Thundurus and dropping Special Attack even when taunted or on Gholdengo makes up for the lack of priority.

@cheezsteak2229 8 месяцев назад

Gamefreak kinda just forgot the zamazenta existed and it's sad. Zacian gets everything it could ever ask for, and Zama... well...

@kristophesiem5336 8 месяцев назад

But hey, it finally got body press (even tho both Zamazenta and Body Press are from the same gen)

@demi-femme4821 8 месяцев назад

Hey, it finally got Body Press. It also got its Attack, Defenses, and Ability nerfed so bad that it's still in OU, but hey, maybe it'll work in VGC.

@knownevildoer 7 месяцев назад

my poor boy. he deserves so much better. im glad he got body press at least

@itsukizy 8 месяцев назад

honestly with the new video format you’ve been doing recently you’ve quickly become my new favourite VGC youtuber :)

@TheZapdos 8 месяцев назад

The editing quality on this video is top tier Moxie. I can't wait to see more content like this in the future

@snapclub8751 8 месяцев назад

I’m actually surprised that both Incineroar and Landerous are not included on this list.

@maagic2031 8 месяцев назад

Running theme with these is forcing guesses/rng or ignoring counterplay. The intimidate duo are REALLY strong but they dont really do either of those.

@asierx7047 8 месяцев назад

I assume because Landorus has a very exploitable weakness and predictable set, while Incineroar will have to deal with new threats the likes of Sacred Sword Hisui Samurott when it gets back into the national dex

@Mut-ant 8 месяцев назад

@@asierx7047 I don't think samurott hisui is any viable tbh, but the point u r trying to make is absolutely correct

@asierx7047 8 месяцев назад

@@Mut-ant i should've mentioned Great Tusk as a prime Incineroar counter but i simply forgot

@SPZ-gv2on 8 месяцев назад

Most players are fine with the more supportive mons being good. Having reliable pieces is nice. The issue is when mons are horribly overbearing or don't have realistic answers.

@ismaelswaggie5564 8 месяцев назад

Regieleki was so broken it made it Regidrago look like a Lesser Pokemon like Druddigon. No wonder why only Eleki got nerfed while Drago is left untouched.

@TheOtherNeutrino 8 месяцев назад

If anything, they buffed Drago this generation by giving it good Ground coverage.

@stiinkyghost 8 месяцев назад

I'm so bummed that Smeargle is such a hated Pokemon competitively, it's one of my favorites. It's a great pokemon for shiny hunting and just catching Pokemon in general and has an interesting gimmick. I also just really like its design. I understand why it's not healthy for a metagame tho, but I still love it.

@erikbalandra5191 8 месяцев назад

I agree Plus it sets up for intresting strategies that no other pokemon can Smeargle can run moody power trip and become a sweeper Smeargle can run fake out , taunt, or haze inorder to stop various sweepers Smeargle can run stealth rock , sticky web, and toxic spikes to become a hazard setter Smeargle can even run rapid spin or defog to get rid of said hazards There is so much that smeargle can do and I love it for that so it feels kinda sad that people give smeargle a bad wrap for indirectly nerfing darkrai

@soleo2783 4 месяца назад

@@erikbalandra5191 Darkrai aside, the fact that you can never tell what the pokemon does before it does it is already annoying enough in a competitive setting

@robinbouckley901 8 месяцев назад

I thought xerneas would have been on this list. Always thought power herb geomancy was hated by majority.

@Mut-ant 8 месяцев назад

Yea, that is actually really suprising, xern is a bit mouse ape alike, you have to predict it and if you predict the lead wrong you are dead

@hands-ongaming7180 4 месяца назад

Because it’s mid

@gabrielclamens3151 8 месяцев назад

Fun fact about Regieleki, when it arrived in gen 9, thanks to gen 9's mechanic, it can turn into an ice type, and answer his sole weakness.....being mostly lock to electrik type moves.....and now it's no longer the case ! It was so strong, Smogon banned it quickly

@Endershock1678 8 месяцев назад

Which is doubly hilarious because Leki sees no usage in singles due to its Nerf, losing Web, and no Dynamax.

@mr.penguindrewmateo8146 8 месяцев назад

@@Endershock1678don’t you mean double?

@eret3 8 месяцев назад

not only quickly, it is to this day the fastest quick ban of all time. it stayed a single day in OU before getting banned

@ribombee4252 8 месяцев назад

@@Endershock1678Regieleki didn’t lose Electroweb.

@Endershock1678 8 месяцев назад

@@mr.penguindrewmateo8146 Look, it was 3AM when I wrote it, and I spent 3 hours trying to make Slacking viable, I wasn't exactly in the right mind.

@Fam0usFarm3r 8 месяцев назад

Bulbasaur representation at the very start is an instant like from me.

@TheRagingRenegade 8 месяцев назад

“Long live the monkey” is both the best and worst description for Annihilape

@vtubermissingno 8 месяцев назад

As a mon who will likely never get into competitive pokemon myself ,great video. Entertaining informative and enjoyable ,I'll be subscribing for more.

@itzorangesteve2853 8 месяцев назад

so if I'm getting this right, the most hated team would be regieleki, armarouge, iron bundle, maushold, annihilape, and indeedee-f >:)

@MoxieBoosted 8 месяцев назад

Unironically yes

@itzorangesteve2853 8 месяцев назад

@@MoxieBoosted I've made the team but it was so bad it lowered me from 1600s to 1440

@MoxieBoosted 8 месяцев назад

@@itzorangesteve2853 it be like that sometimes

@tomkarate1 8 месяцев назад

GOLISOPOD it the best design EVER! That is my boy till the very end!

@luxobscuras5582 8 месяцев назад

Regieleki counters are Sp Def Groudon and Ursaluna with Grimmsnarl setting up light screen/reflect with parting shot to pivot. But this is more or less requires you to make a defensive team in case you run into a team with Regieleki.

@asierx7047 8 месяцев назад

And the worst part is the Bolt Beam tera set can threaten the former 2, so both players essentially have to focus their whole team in fighting that one matchup

@lloydbagby8355 2 месяца назад

Yah terra made eleki stupid with bolt beam cover

@Defaultnoobisme 8 месяцев назад

“Its the inside that matters”- someone

@shanecoffing 7 месяцев назад

I love shedninja as you can legit just drop one in a team, almost never use it, and still stress everyone in a tournament out. Great Pokemon with a great gimmick.

@tedscheett9420 8 месяцев назад

There may be arguments for Incineroar not being hated, but it feels like whenever I see it, I just groan. It feels like no matter what I do this WWE Tiger just survives.

@cheetahofthewind13 8 месяцев назад

I pray they remove intimidate from it when it returns in the dlc because its already confirmed it will be back. I rather it just have huge power or something else thematic to 80s wrestling

@lillbro6463 8 месяцев назад

please oh please WHERE is that charizard and glue clip from?

@bossbrozork3022 8 месяцев назад

The armarouge and indeedee combo can be easily dispatched by any dark type (water/dark or dark/ground can work better) and also dark/poison for defensive purposes.

@riverstow6361 8 месяцев назад

The editing on these videos have gotten so much better - awesome vid

@dancingllama2392 8 месяцев назад

I'm a big fan of this type of video format. Keep up the good work

@michaelsmith9293 8 месяцев назад

Bundle will be better next to the new Dripplin since its ability reduces evasion, it's an artificial accuracy boost for hydro pump

@ambermind3233 8 месяцев назад

your thumbnails are always so sick I almost want to watch just because of the art!

@lichrallyanaitmareluv9116 8 месяцев назад

I was just checking out your other videos and to my surprise, you just uploaded a new one, nice

@braedonmb 8 месяцев назад

I ran a primarily bulky priority team for a while, and loved my Armarouge. I used Trick Room against hyper offense/high speed teams so I could rely less on priority moves, and against Trick Room teams. Generally the turn they try to set it up, or the turn after to switch it back.

@PengyVGC 8 месяцев назад

I really love this new edited content. VGC video essayist GOAT Marcos

@infernoflash 8 месяцев назад

Delibird brings gifts. Iron Bundle brings despair.

@professionalanagram 8 месяцев назад

surprised not to see any mention of thundurus since its massive hate actively got several things nerfed

@blazingblackness4442 8 месяцев назад

Urshifu: "Just attack, lol..."

@blinkspot2667 8 месяцев назад

I'm really surprised by Iron Bundle being on this list. But after hearing the reasons, I guess that makes sense. Still is my favorite Paradox pokemon.

@Jswann6 8 месяцев назад

Need a followup video of the best counters to all these !

@kingzerko 8 месяцев назад

Top video and background music to set the tone

@LoOtVGC 8 месяцев назад

Great video as always! But you know what was the best part? That 🔥 Thumbnail 😎

@FrinniferFran 5 месяцев назад

10:27 Let’s not forget the fact that Regieleki LITERALLY BREAKS TRICK ROOM WITH HOW FAST IT IS

@ryanbranch1430 8 месяцев назад

Wild that ppl dislike Bundle because it's NOT overpowered

@papasalvo 8 месяцев назад

There is a small error in this video Smergle can learn every move in the game except for THREE 1. Vicious rend 2. Chatter 3. Hoopas signature move

@mattmanley7118 8 месяцев назад

Great content, as always

@Froggeh92 19 дней назад

Im burning through your channel. Your humor and the editing are a match made in heaven. Also Leech seed boys assemble. Wo chein and ferrothorn are lost brothers in my mind

@fillphd 8 месяцев назад

0:31 casual players will hate those Pokémon? If anything competitive players would hate them even more

@supremechaosbeing2696 8 месяцев назад

5:34 placeholder lmao

@murkiri 8 месяцев назад

i have made a terrible mistake

@soupsandwich5598 8 месяцев назад

No one’s talking about how baller your thumbnails are.

@Nutleaf420 8 месяцев назад

Cant wait for spore revival blessing upper hand smeargle

@tezminator 8 месяцев назад

Do you think maybe Espathra will gain some spotlight once Smeargle drops? I mean, Opportunist + Mirror Herb will make for an insta +4 in one stat, so it can be quite the advantage, specially if the stat is not speed and you have a Tailwind setter.

@Mobtrapper-hq8is 26 дней назад

9:07 Wait until this guy sees my -spd nature, 0spd EV Shuckle in trick room with an iron ball

@qwep_0773 8 месяцев назад

Fun Fact, not even Regieleki used max speed to outspeed other ones, people used even CHOICE SCARF MAX SPEED REGIELEKI to always win the speed tie in gen 8 VGC

@galloviking4766 8 месяцев назад

Murkrow Gholdengo. Jeez I hated that during early S/V doubles.

@enoyna1001 8 месяцев назад

Fire content!

@SMorange-bh8ou 8 месяцев назад

ultra instinct kyogre made my day im ngl

@takedownmy 8 месяцев назад

my glalie plus anger point team should definately be here according to any vgc player in my local area

@herardoduarte4138 8 месяцев назад

Any pokemon I hate is Lando T So filthy for me I just cant

@dantevoncrowlley2243 8 месяцев назад

I don't have a particular pokemon, but I do like dark n ghost types the most, a lot of them have bad designs tho, my second type would be water type, probably the one with the most extreme sides in the design spectrum, rather are really good or Bruxish

@Mut-ant 8 месяцев назад

Where is chlorophyll sleep powder? (Altho I have to admit I sometimes run that too)

@ViscommlyPozzler 8 месяцев назад

Surprising that there was no mention of any calyrex considering both formes being absurd on their own spectrum

@cblang8115 8 месяцев назад

I actually didnt mind regi or zacian. Seemed like necessary evils for dynamax that wont be overwhelming in SV

@jorik0907 8 месяцев назад

Now I wanna see what kinda move placeholder would be for ting lu. Perhaps forcing a pokémon to not be able to switch

@JDLong006 8 месяцев назад

Can't tell if this is a rhetorical question or not but it has Sand Tomb

@addiwolfson1990 8 месяцев назад

Beating Armarouge and Indeedee is what got me into master ball rank. Iron treads steel roller into indeedee to OKO and Annihilape final gambits the Armarouge

@fen_u9401 8 месяцев назад

anyone remember minimize guard swap chancey? i hate hate evasion strats☠️

@thanthtooaung4401 8 месяцев назад

Aerial ace. Faint attack.

@TWLSpark 8 месяцев назад

@@thanthtooaung4401 Why do people keep thinking these moves work in the year 2023? They don't, stop coping.

@manelneedsaname1773 8 месяцев назад

I don't really play vgc online, I just play against my friends. I hate the Sableye one of my friends has since it has prankster will o wisp and most my mons jsut ended up being physical. But also they hate my Garganacl even more, it's so bulky and after an iron defense it also becomes an attacker. I love that guy

@tysondennis1016 8 месяцев назад

I once got both of my mons flinched twice in a row by Rock Slide. Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe my series.

@mysticpumpkin8520 8 месяцев назад

People hate to face Iron Bundle? .......well, I guess all those people that had to face mine may had been cursing my non-existence decendance then. I like to use him in rain teams and tbh I prefer to boost his Special Atk instead. I never expected Icy wind to double KO things

@sebidoo 8 месяцев назад

Mourinho at 6:45 made me lol

@mythmakroxymore1670 8 месяцев назад

I actually really like Armorouge, but would rather pair it with a pokemon with priority moves and taunt, like Toxicroak. You naturally learn Taunt and Sucker Punch, but then you can choose egg moves from hitmonchan (being released to SV soon) like fake out and feint. This way you can almost always get damage onto foes with spread moves rather than simply using the same meta indeedee. Giving priority moves to Toxicroak is an excellent way to keep it busy during trick room, after all. One fun trick room core I casually had on Showdown before SV was Bronzong Toxicroak Dragalge. You could get rain, flinches from iron head, and trick room from bronzong, while dragalge had surf, recover, and some other moves, then you’d switch in toxicroak and surf spamming while guaranteeing damage with feint. This would ensure every turn without ghost types was a turn i could both heal and fish for protects or land sucker punches. Don’t forget to give Dragalge recover, and you’re set for a fun little double ko.

@BrookAfroSkeleton 7 месяцев назад

How did I not know that annihilape and maushold, two of my favourite gen 9 pokémon, both have been my favourite pokémon for a short while not long ago, are so hecking good together? A monster has probably been born.

@Captain.396 8 месяцев назад

Before I watched the video I faced an indeedee armarouge team and the first thing that player did was reject team sheets

@jo-ri-oh8950 8 месяцев назад

Certified Indeedee Armarouge player moment

@robertourdaneta2339 8 месяцев назад

Armarouge is my gen 9 favorite pokemon and indeedee my gen 8 favorite, I love they have that interaction but Im sad to know that team is so hated

@Andal0r 8 месяцев назад

I know it’s a little late but you should do a video talking about teams to consider for new reg

@eloylopez8929 8 месяцев назад

Revival blessing could be interesting but i think itll be hard to pull off because Smeargle wont last too many turns

@tezminator 8 месяцев назад

I think it probably will be a move locked to use if not by the Pokemon that can learn it.

@SPZ-gv2on 8 месяцев назад

I doubt smeargle would ever get to pull it off. It's so frail, not that fast, and usually targeted immediately before it can start pulling shenanigans.

@BrassxKharii 2 месяца назад

wow thanks for the new strategies

@sawkchalk6966 8 месяцев назад

I remember the days of gen 8 struggling to set up expanding firce Reuniculus because Indeedee didn't have Trick Room. I see why it didn't now

@Mut-ant 8 месяцев назад

I think most of these pokemon are not really the problem but a move that they get ar a stupid mechanic. For example closed team sheets is already annoying, also if you don't face armadeedee. I feel like smeargle without moody and dark void in open team sheets would be far from hated and I think shedinja without ally switch would be widely accepted as a cool strategy/wincondition. I don't even have to start about ting lu and fissure...

@lupla963 8 месяцев назад

"Cranky's Advice: git gud" The memories maaaaannn

@cupcakemedia1143 8 месяцев назад

So, there's two that I hate, and neither of them are good anymore. My hatred is specifically related to the absolute trauma they influcted on me and the stranglehold one of them had on the metagame I started playing in. The first one is Talonflame. Gale Wings was a STUPID ability when it was first released, since it allowed Talonflame to threaten Tailwind AND priority Brave Bird no matter what. Ive softened on it a little bit now that Gale Wings has been nerfed into the ground, but it still provokes that anger reaction i had in 2015. My second most hated is Minimiza Chansey. It was definitely beatable, but if you tunnel visioned too hard the opponent could win with a secondary option. Not to mention when it got Guard Splitted by Shuckle. If it got set up, it was a menace to deal with. Thank god they removed Minimize from it this gen.

@martinmoraurena4155 8 месяцев назад

Honestly kinda sad that Indeedee was kinda dragged into the conversation because of the one that uses her the most, she is great but fair on any other pair:Fast teams, slow teams, all of them benefit, but the fire armor devil knocked the door

@simonxl 8 месяцев назад

As someone who recently got his first top 8 at his local with indeedee arma, I feel like this doesn’t apply to me lol. (Also I open OTS on showdown)

@Mut-ant 8 месяцев назад

Yea, it is more the problem of cts than of armadeedee. In series 1 I also played ots armadeedee and I feel nobody ever had issues with it

@opossumking4452 4 месяца назад

lmao Bruxish is one of my favs why you do my fish dirty like that

@silverstrider2046 8 месяцев назад

No mention of Cresselia? Trick Room setter Bulky as hell Ally Switch BS Lunar Blessing to cure status and heal Absolute nightmare of a Pokemon if you don't have taunt available.

@TundraRage 8 месяцев назад

Also in Singles eleki is the fastest Quickban to happen in history, lasting 1 day. It was broken to BOlTBEAM STAB.

@hefancy6921 8 месяцев назад

I am taking notes. I will make the game worse. The haters will suffer

@King-uk3fn 8 месяцев назад

There is actually an easy way to stop Urshifu: Sand Attack :) (If allowed)

@Rikhard9 5 месяцев назад

it is allowed

@MotorcycleCheetah 20 дней назад

Indeedee and Armorouge aye? Definitely gonna jot that down for a Psychic Team.

@yuanhaocao7955 8 месяцев назад

IMAGINE IF ANNIHLAPE GOT JUSTIFIED

@Raziel_HHL 8 месяцев назад

any mon that learns Ally Switch and every player that actively uses it

@user-km8jl3um9b 8 месяцев назад

If shedinja comes back everyone would run Tera electric will air balloon

@allhailwarlock 8 месяцев назад

My Buddy hates my Shiny Eviolite Bisharp. Not because it's good, but because I Spec'd him in Max Atk/Spd instead of Def/SDef lmao. And because he's a Rock Tera with Stone Edge.