Turning your outside knee in as if it is pushing the frame (but not touching)... while watching the video back you can see Casper turning his hips in too, like he’s twisting the bike into the corner. All great Pro level tips! Thanks for making these!
Weight over the front. In my constant battle with learning to corner better, keeping my weight over the front of the bike seems the most important. When I can get that right the other techniques seem to follow. Without the weight forward, the other concepts (level pedals, sliding, braking, etc...) are harder to execute properly.
Hi Paul, love the new videos. I'd like to see slow motion of the pros to see their body position clearly, they always talk about correct positioning but whip past in the blink of an eye. Like where Kasper talks about pointing his knees in, it'd be great to see him in this position in motion
Was just thinking this 😂 I don't understand how people are spending thousands on bikes when they don't even know the basics on how to approach a turn 😂
One of the hardest things for pros to remember when teaching the rest of us, we simply can't support the G's when the turns done right. I spent a day at the park getting one run better and better until I reached a point where I was too fast to exert proper control over the bars as I was just struggling to keep myself upright. With a slightly iffy left elbow at the moment this meant I'd start to turn to this side either over or understeer depending on turn direction. You just can't do what they do until you match the fitness and muscle memory.
Kasper flies through the turns so fast you can't really see his technique. Just a suggestion, but how about some slower motion so we can really see how he does it.
I think I big issue here is that the form needed to properly corner changes as the speed increases. So Kaspers exact form likely won’t work at a slower speed.
I think Kasper is one of the few who actually understand how do make a bike turn. Others are doing it but have now idea what it is. His magic knee is key. He isn't talking about rotating the hips or shoulders. He is tipping the bike with his lower body and keeping his upper body in a more balance, neutral possession. You have been told to twist into the turn so you rotate your hips into the turn. That moves the top of your inside femur in the wrong direction and stops you from really leaning the bike with your lower body.
I feel like these kind of videos would benefit from some static camera shots. You could edit in some "ghost" runs, some "versus" shots and some "before and after" runs that we could really SEE the benefit of the advice given. Glad to see ya back at it!
Lol. The sad thing is, I can totally relate with this. It's hard to learn all this stuff from scratch when you're in your 30s. I'm currently struggling with getting my jump technique dialed.
@@dukeofmtb I'm 37, I ride mainly with guys my age and they have been riding for years, I would say they aren't elite but its hard catching up to them. These vids kinda gives me more insight to work on my tech, also pinkbike friday fails so I can see what they are doing wrong.
@@Boxbeat666 lol. I'm actually a pretty fit, dude. I've been doing weights for over a decade. It's the skills and technique that's hard to learn. Like jumps for example.
@@reenierkendrickdelosreyes9264 It's jumps that I struggle the most with. I actually prefer gnarly, rooty, chunky fast descents over jumps trails because of this.
Paul, simple tip...point your belly button where you want to go. That will turn your hips and point your inside knee in the direction of the turn, and your outside knee toward the frame. Then, practice, practice, practice. Bob T.
Last night I took my new bike for it's first night ride. Went down the same trail that I had crashed on earlier this year and wrecked myself. This was only the 2nd time riding this trail on the new bike. First time riding was during the day. I felt stiff and paranoid, obsessing over all the upcoming obstacles and corners. It was stressful. Last night was different. The minimal view really helped tune out a lot of the distractions and noise. I was able to just focus in on the trail immediately ahead of me, pluck out my routes around big rocks, and flow comfortably around the corners. The last point was helped by the fact that my light was bar mounted, so I reeeeeally had to strain my vision ahead at the edges of the light. I was forced to look through the turn and it really showed in the ride. The two experiences are very similar to Paul's experiences here. When you limit what the brain is trying to process, you manage to execute better on what it is processing.
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Getting forward/dropping your chest while turning has been a big one for me. Makes any turn faster
I think so too. Kasper is deep down over the bars and pumping the handle bar. He is low and leaning foreward. Paul is too stiff in the arms. On top of that he is very flexible in the hips moving the back of the bike (Kasper)
He seems like a cool guy and I'm glad you had him in the video. But...... And I say this from experience from other sports, the "best" don't always make the best coaches. He was kinda hard to follow sometimes when giving instructions
love the ski analogies that you sometimes give....as a reasonable skier and mediocre MTB'r they really help understand why the front weight and knee angles make so much sense...
Awesome video as always Paul! You give me hope... Kasper sees and rides all these corners like he's on skis. The weight transfer, upper and lower body separation (leaning the bike over), staying forward, that's all from ski racing. I'm guessing if you could see film of him on a slalom or DH course his body position would look very similar. Keep up the great work Paul! And the practice, you're getting better and making guys like me better too!
This kid started so early to ride mtb that he never had to learn it ...he just feels what the bike wants from him. ...I'm from Austria and i ski since I'm 2,5. I never took a ski lesson, but I can carve and freeride in the pow like not many others can do... because I feel what a ski wants from me. Sadly trail/enduro mountain biking came very late to Austria, and so I have to learn everything like you :D. The good thing is that mountain biking has some similarities to ski freeriding and also a bit of carving (especially the last corner tip with the knee is exactly the same!), but I know my son will catch me with the age of 12 if he has only a bit of interest in MTBs ^^ ...hopefully he will teach me a few things like I do at the moment to him :D
Great video, thanks Paul! I love watching Kasper ride and you do a great job of juxtapositioning his world class riding with something less than that. The difference actually helps highlight what he is doing so well. As far as the tips, I thought the line tactics and the emphasis of using the upper body to get pressure ( and hence grip ) on the front tire were the most interesting. I also think that Kasper's skiing background really comes through. For instance, his comment about the pressure in the turn pushing you back and the need to fight it is exactly how I feel when ripping a fast carved turn on snow. I also think that the way he gets the bike leaned over and his body 'inside the turn' relates directly to skiing and ski racing.
The way Kasper keeps his weight down low and loads the front tire is so key. Body position is far more important than people realize. I think that's clutch for unlocking his technique.
Great video Paul and Kasper! I think what Kasper was trying to get across (forgive me if I am way off base and to be clear I am not in the same riding universe as Kasper) ; at the end can be understood if you watch how his hips turn through the corners, his knee being close to the bike is a bi-product of the hips turning. I remember when I was a newer rider (20+ yrs ago) watching VCR tapes of Sam Hill and Steve Peat and noticing how they used their hips in the corners... was a light bulb moment. Thank you Paul for the continued awesome content.
Yep, same as with the last one. He's an awesome rider, but if you can't articulate your point/concept & communicate clearly, you're missing one of the most important parts.
@@mattgies that's the point, he's a great rider, he's just not doing a very good job translating it. Have a look at the way Kyle Warner describes things in his videos. Perhaps the video title is the key: He will "show" you how to do it (if you slow it down - pause it at 0:01 - the body & bike positioning tells you more than all of his dialogue in the rest of the clip). He just can't communicate it very well, is all.
Huhhhhhhh haaaaaaaa! First instructional video I’ve ever laughed out loud at! Then got annoyed at myself because there was such high level tips I wanted to concentrate on. Excellent stuff my man.
hey broo, i see some of you are riding a fox 38 yeti at 180mm. you can tell more about it. yeti packs 170 and I'm thinking about 180, they wrote to me that you can, but the angles will loosen and be less sure. please write something about it. yeti writes you can run a 180mm fork, but the bike rides very well with the stock 170mm fork and we recommend that. You will gain a little bit of travel and rake, but the bike feels more balanced and very confident with the stock 170mm fork. and just keep in mind that it will slacken the HT and ST angles, and raise the BB a little bit.
Pretty good P-Daddy. Something that help with my bike leaning was to think of my arms as windshield(screen?) Wipers, all they do is pivot back and forth at the elbow.
I like to think of riding a unicycle when I’m taking turns. Focus on the Front Wheel, getting pressure on it, and as long as the wheel stays in the berm from high at the start of the berm to low out at the end. With that said, I’m 4 weeks into a shoulder injury when the top of a sandy berm blew out and and I landed on it. No Armor... I always tell myself to put on Armor because I’m a senior citizen, but I talk myself out of it saying I’m gonna just take it easy today. But there is no taking it easy after warming up. It’s how fast can I go down this trail or around this turn. I got a new bike and can’t go to the Parks because I didn’t wear my armor.
Paul, your videos just keep getting better and better. Thank you for some quality content. I hadn't subscribed for a long time, but you are quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. Subbed a while ago now, but glad I did. Thanks for the content! :)
That's a pretty damn good video Paul. Thank you! Love the knee-against-frame thing. Its an interesting way to trick the brain into twisting the hips. Also, for breaking, trail-breaking(modulating) and coasting; i'd suggest you guys bring little coloured cones in the future. great way to setup and train. cheers from Montreal.
Learning racing line theory like entrance apex and exit, similiar to car/motorcycle racing will translate to MTB. More leaning towards drifting techniques since skidding (loss of rear wheel grip) and tight corners happen alot on the trails! 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice video and Casper made so many really good points. His instructed line into that left though.... Casper was going middle and using the end of the turn and instructing to go wide and use the whole turn! Personally, I always think weight over the front is the most important lesson, that and point your belly button where you want to go (like when no handed). Feet flat or outside foot down... even the WC boys all do that differently!!!
@@bobbyhempel1513 sorry yes, get more weight on to the front wheel. look at the split snap shot of Kasper and Paul turning, Kaspers lovingvthe front wheel driving weight in to it, Paul's hold back his weight
@@bobbyhempel1513 - many folk are scared of the front wheel because one of the first bits of advice you ever tend to get when riding is keep weigh back so you don' flip over bars. Which you then have to unlearn. Unlearning being way harder than learning.
My favorite tip is the one not mentioned! Hip movement! Hip mobility! Casper is loose in the hips and able to use them...I think it's more about hips move and knees follow and not knees to frame. If Paul were to take some cha cha dance lessons he would be free to use his balance and mobility parts of his body...ITS ALL IN THE HIPS!
Something I saw your struggling to do is something I see alot of riders struggling to do. Try and point your belly button where you want to go. This will help your hips and shoulder point in the direction you want to go all while keeping your core strong which is paramount in turning.
Not to be mean... but it just it just looks like you’re afraid to fall. Loosen those hips and throw your weight around (not just your bikes weight).... if you’re doing it right you’re gonna get roughed up mate, take the hit
Nah, it's a myth, you don't need to fall to get better... you probably will, but it's not a requirement. Besides, how much improvement can any of us make in a day? Not very much. Like Casper said, it took him 4 months of hammering a single concept last winter to really see the improvements he wanted. Looking back at the last cornering video he's definitely gotten better, it's not like he's incapable of improvement, it just takes a bit of time, regardless of whether you're crashing or not.
@@casestudymtb Obviously everyone has different body mechanics, he looks stiff, and carrying low speed into turns.... seems to be he's afraid of going over the handlebars (like everyone) ....but if I'm right, there is only so much you can improve if you're stiff.
@@OmarIllustrated sorry but that's macho/teenage nonsense. Getting epically smashed into ground popping your shoulder out, destroying your helmet/head or ripping kneecap off is however not part of the fun. And I'm speaking from long experience of many activities where hitting the ground is inevitable at some point. Heck I even spend many years learning how to fall properly so I could be safely thrown at the ground without being injured. A very useful skill that have prevented numerous hospital visits when having an off whilst biking. Getting hurt is only counterproductive. Plus as folk get older and usually heavier, hitting the ground is way more damaging than when a much lighter scrawny teenager.
Amazing video! Why you say Shimano is good at modulation? That’s the MAIN ISSUE over Shimano, they lack modulation at all. It’s ON/OFF. Much different than the amazing -and modern SRAM.
When turning left try to have your right foot forward to unlock your hips. You always have the left foot forward that’s why you keep dropping your right foot when turning left.
Cameron Davis it depends. Its good that he drops the outside foot, but it almost looks like he has all the pressure on the inside foot. So he ends up standing kinda tall on the bike.
I always thought that getting over the front end meant weighting the front tire, now I see that It just means dropping the chest and getting off the back end.
Best tip was: “press your outside knee into the frame.” Steer with your bellybutton is ok, but it kind of lets your legs flap about underneath. Press with the knee is more aggressive and gets more weight into the bike in my opinion.