Pro-Vaccine vs Anti-Vaccine: Should Your Kids Get Vaccinated? | Middle Ground 

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My daughter broke her arm in a car crash while she was wearing her seatbelt, therefore nobody should wear seatbelts: basically bangs lady's argument

Hahahahaha

The seatbelt killed my mum in a car accident but I won’t disagree the function of the seatbelt.

Basically 4:05 in a nutshell.

Oh my god someone should have said that

Why didn’t he have access?

@@sunshinesoldier2915 probably got the disease before the vaccine was out

@@IIII...... are you serious?? The effects of polio are with him for life, there’s a thing called post polio syndrome which has a list of health issues that develop over time. He’s also wheelchair bound for the rest of his life, people do die from polio, thankfully he is not one of them but a vaccine could’ve vastly improved his life. Antivaxxers are a literal and figurative plague on our society right now. It’s selfish.

@@Veronica-rt3mi i’m sorry that you guys had to go through that. I fully agree with you.

@@thienantran7913 Hes from a country where they stole the vaccines off the people and sold them, so he didn’t get the vaccine on time.

ALSO its better when a doctor does not have a personal connection with a patient, so they can make unbiased decisions, without letting personal connection get in the way and cloud their judgment

My eyes rolled so hard when she said that.

Lol

@Euphoric Vision01 oh god don't start it here,you will give away the secrets,damn,go back to the grave,NOW,,,😂😂😂

@Euphoric Vision01 lol

@Grace Elizabeth L Girl, your parents may know the OUTSIDE of your body and behavior, but the doctors know the INSIDES of a person. Doctors dont spend their 20s in medical school for nothing...

Grace Elizabeth L nice troll.

I read the last part in Cookie monster's voice

I'm anti breathing cause I might one day breathe in dangerous chemicals. So no thanks

one time i got food poisoning from a restaurant so im anti restaurant

A really that's a good point. Too much of a risk

I'm actually anti-living, because research done by harvard university shows that there are always chances of dying.

If you do that, the Italians might invade

@@IIII...... Are governments forcing vaccines on us?

@@IIII...... yes they are putting gasoline in vackzine 🤯these gordrnarm governmentn have ben spyingg on us!!

This happened to me with Water. Now I only drink Soft drinks! :-D

@@mori8706 talking with a troll and take his word seriously? Wow.....

agreed

She is talking about children under 13 not teenagers

@@teacup3064 you'd still be surprised how little parents know their children. People assume that because they have control over someone that they know them best. History is filled with examples of why this is a lie _cough cough mass shooter parents_

I read that wrong at first, i was thinking friends of the parents and i was Very confused

As an adolesant, I can confirm this is true as I don't share my love life with my parents but only my friends. Because I feel it as akward.

Oskar the second page of google search results is biased, government propaganda

ive done plenty of research none of which was on google but whatever 😂

and apparently their research is equal to years of studying and practicing to earn an MD

@@JC-qe9be And with strict restrictions, rules , exams etc.

Burn

Well, you need to become an adult to be an anti vaxxer, if you know what I mean-

"everyone who was not vaccinated, step forward" *dead people crawl out of grave and come sit down*

Justin Fay lol wtf

Justin Fay ahahaha

Because the parent made the decision. A child has no real choice .

@@theappleciderresistance4925 A pediatrician who also stated that he tries his best to ease parents' worries and explain vaccines to them. He's not against vaccines.

The Inventor of mRNA knows it does. The inventor of RT-PCR test knows what's its real purpose is.

Mothers know.

On the intern u can always find someone that agrees with u, always fact check n don’t just look for the answer u want.

That third point is so common with anti-vaxxers. They always pull out vague anecdotes or unconfirmed stories to push their arguments

EXACTLY! Then why go to the doctor's? Just treat you child by yourself. If you think you know everything be capable of doing your own operations.

All the Karens are like "I know my child best, I don't trust doctors" until their child gets appendicitis or a fracture, and then they drop their healing crystals and their essential oils and go running to the hospital for help. And the worst part is after the medical professionals help their child, they'll go back to their ignorant ways and nothing will change

Well, if you cannot use your intelligence to DISCERN between those areas that you are capable of researching and understanding and those you are not - if you would rather be a passive believer, so be it. But you suck as a parent.

What happens when the mother is a doctor herself and does the surgery perfectly?

@@aroach7461 They get the vaccine.

88 Keys wow, I’m gunna quote that very time I argue with my sister

@BlooCaos r/imverysmart

BlooCaos you didn’t understand the saying at all

BlooCaos i’m not gonna argue with you because “ you can’t reason with someone who is unreasonable” aka you.

It's because they never THINK that they lost the arguement

winta k thank you!

Less than 50%

Well at least it's not just dead

winta K *Death is the enemy of the human race. Death is eternity inside of the Sun. You mean to tell me you know everything about death except what death is, which is the Sun???*

Facts

That person has that right. Are you going to be that insensitive to someone who literally almost died because they took a vaccine? I know a woman whose son died from an adverse reaction to a vaccine and she refuses to vaccinate her 2 other children with that same vaccine. Are you really going to judge someone like her so harshly. We have to get to the point where we have empathy for people who are genuinely scare because they have experienced an allergic reaction or know someone who has. There views are still valid even though you don't agree

@@nicolprofittkh Someone does have that right. Just like both government funded schools and hospitals, as well as private ones, have the right to refuse services to someone who isn't vaccinated. I do judge someone for letting their fear rule over what science supports is best for their child.

@@EclecticallyEccentric i feel like that isn't right, if someone has been adversely affected by vaccines, and i don't mean mild allergies, like people who have ended up with debilitating life long problems, i believe the fear is valid, no one wants to run back into something that almost killed them. I believe this should be recognised more.

I once had a light allergic reaction to sunscreen, threw up after eating rice and slipped in the shower, causing me to fall and bruise myself slightly. Therefore, against the hundreds of specialists and professionals who have poured hours into research on skin cancer, I propose that we ban all sunscreen internationally, even sunscreen from different brands that had nothing to do with my mild rash. I also suggest that, despite rice being one of the most important crops in the world and sustaining many people in poverty, we ban rice across the globe as someone may choke on it and die. My final suggestion is that we ban showers despite hygiene having been a key factor in many pandemics throughout history, as slipping and falling is extremely dangerous even though millions of people take showers daily without dying.

@@Nobody-kh2nm you said a light reaction….we aren’t talking about that here. People are entitled to their own opinions. If I had a near death experience with a vaccine, I would be extremely wary to take them again. It’s not really that hard to think. If someone almost drowned in a pool as a child and now they have a fear of large bodies of water, that doesn’t mean they don’t believe others shouldn’t be in pools, that’s their experience and a valid fear.

@@IIII...... i cant tell if that’s sarcasm or not however that’s my logic on the case. both my parents are doctors so i’m quite educated and lucky when it comes to learning about this kinda stuff

@@IIII...... i’m chained up in my room because of you anti vaxxers. got covid from my friend who is unvaaxxed and currently in the hospital. would be in there like him if i didn’t have my vacccine

You *SERIOUSLY* couldn’t improve the 3.20 by 1?

@@nrlstatistics4898 ???

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Subtext Equals Subtext car hit me while teleporting, I now can phase through matter

@@RighteousPretzel Lmao

One of the doctors was not pro vax

@Zoey Bennett lol because doing your research online is 100% accurate right smh

I've seen people disregard proven facts with that attitude

Zoey Bennett where else is she supposed to go?

Farethah where else is she supposed to go?

KIRYU-SAN!

Those anti vaxxers cannot even pronounce the name of drugs.

I cant imagine how insulted he must have felt to be told misinformed about his own disciple by a woman who hasn’t even spent a quarter of the time studying it.

I was in a room and someone farted and the room stank. Thus I will simply hold my breath forever more lest I happen to bump into more people farting because I read a post on Fakebook from a friend of a friend of a friend that inhaling farts can alter my DNA. lol!

This man’s a genius!

@@varyolla435 Bruh I'm dying

Well he did say pineapple doesn't belong on pizza and he's obviously wrong about that, so bad analogy

@@jedimmj11 it's a good analogy actually. Toppings on a pizza is an opinion.

The Man With The Dash Cam. Same with the Doctor you refused to acknowledge because you need to "research" and the "risks" and "ingredients."

@@massojupiter3436 I'm just kidding

@@jedimmj11 yeah I thought you were for a second but the " bad analogy " confused me a little.

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i CHOKED

I wish someone there had said this.

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Not funny

It’s before Covid.

Delta: say whatt?

how was that funny?

Most vaccines happen as children, so what choice did they have until they became adults?

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Peter Maxwell wow ur genious

This is an epic gamer moment

Genius

Lmao 😂

So are Anti-Vaxx children

Dashy medication*

@@azathoth8888 that was good.

Yr deceased cuz u didn’t have yr vaccine against pro plague

Subzero99 good job

So you don't question authority

You need to live your life and not let others live it for you.... get different options other wise one guy will tell you ohh you have HIV and now you believe it

that's very interesting

Oh holy crap.....

Don't forget he was selling vaccine exemption forms online for a personal profit without ever seeing his patients!

@@hrhux He is the epitome of a scumbag. There aren't enough bad things that can happen to him.

Wow I'm not sure if I should be made at him or the video makers because he should not be talking

cassidy’s edits Doctors say that kind of all the time. Especially to women. Just ask the disabled/chronic illness community.

My brother is 18 and he has gout, when it runs in the family it’s pretty common that young adults show symptoms 🤷🏻‍♀️

Ashley MacLellan exactly. i was tested for rheumatoid arthritis and i’m only 16. arthritis affects many different people of many different ages

That woman actually got on my nerves complaining about arthritis and how she was too young. Mate, I’ve had it since I was TWO. I’m a teenager and I can handle it better than her smh

... I didn’t doubt that? I’ve been sick since I was ...well always, but it really took off when I was 13. I’ve heard “you’re too young for this” for ages. In my personal experience, most of those comments have come from doctors.

Beat them with a stick full of vaccines.

But you can't because anti-vaxers don't want to be *treated* XD

Except for when they disagree with you. Then you have to fire them from their jobs, attack them in public, wish them death, make death threats to them and dehumanize them then pass laws to put them into prison. Very compassionate wouldn't you say?

⁠@@aroach7461What point are you even trying to make?

@@hellod4036 5 years since this all started. But you forgot? You don't remember when doctors, nurses and people who worked hard, lost their jobs and livelihood over sharing their own thoughts? Their was no middle ground for those people and it was already too late. And 5 years since nobody has come forth to admit they were wrong.

soyjaimie I don’t label myself as Anti-vaccine, I am anti-mandates though.

Melissa Suzanne herd immunity relies on vaccinations

As someone who has a condition in which prevents me from having certain vaccines, I am all for them, because as well as protecting our children and other kids from these diseases, we also need to protect others who can’t have certain vaccines for health reasons. It’s not fair that we should have to suffer at the hands of others

Emmie especially when you could get a disease from someone who uses personal belief as a reason to not get vaccinated or vaccinate their children rather than true medical facts and statistics.

I was thinking they should ask if the people who are against vaccines if they want everyone to not get vaccines, otherwise what are you fighting for? To be heard? I think doctors understands the risks.

@Jamrs Roberts Is that why they misdiagnose so often? My friend brought her daughter to the paediatrician several times and repeatedly asked for tests to determine the cause of her symptoms. The doctor kept sending her home. Finally she said after checking online, she suspects diabetes and asked for the child to be tested and he reluctantly agreed. Of course that's what it was. My eldest used to get strep a lot and if it occurred on a weekend, I would go to a walk in clinic. Invariably they'd tell me she doesn't have it yet I would insist on a swab, cuz I knew. And it always came back positive. I was just so familiar with her behavior I knew right away when she had it. Ask anyone with kids and they'll tell you stories like this. Ask your parents.

@@snowbird6855 Nice bible

TaiSupreme Edit what? I’m confused?

@@danaegregoric7278 I just said that because it is a big text, don't worry about it

@@snowbird6855 that's called incompetence. not misdiagnose.

I've seen that a lot in these kinds of videos. Anti-vaxxers tend to fixate on themselves, whereas pro-vaxxers are compassionate and thinking of their community

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@@afarensis9720 why wouldn’t you put yourself and your own family first?

@@stellagrey1465 your family goes under community too. Also it's not some black and white choice, putting yourself first doesn't mean you have to neglect everyone around you. Not to mention vaccines really don't pose a direct threat to you at all so this whole "putting yourself first" argument doesn't even apply here

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He not atacc He not protecc But most importantly: He anti-vaxx

Alexandru Valcaneantu just doesn’t rhyme try again

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this comment is gold

ur comment gave me mild cancer

We should ban birth because some babies die during pregnancy. I will not stand for this dangerous procedure!

Yeah I stubbed my toe on a chair so all chairs must be burned to a crisp

Haapi Hiivistö I’m eating one now. Omg 😅

Haapi Hiivistö it's literally the meme that 700,000 people die in hospitals each year, ban hospitals Complete wilful ignorance

Haapi Hiivistö it’s not "Melissa" it’s measles

Lizzie Allen read it again without the dumbass goggles on. I didn’t say doctors are never wrong, in fact I never said anything about who’s right or wrong at all. I said that her opinion does carry less weight than that of someone trained to understand the condition of sick people, since she has no formal training. Whine about it all you like, the doctors opinion is infinitely more valid than her own.

Lizzie Allen and who are you getting that 2nd opinion from? That’s right ANOTHER DOCTOR. Lol

Lizzie Allen So do you think a opinion of a doctor that have years of study and experience is better then a opinion of a mon that say she did "research" on the Internet? The Internet are never wrong right?

Lizzie Allen so you can ask another DOCTOR 🙄

The key word is "opinion". As if opinion has anything to do with it. Doctors can obviously be wrong, but we have the data to demonstrate the effects. We have the peer reviews and the studies. It has nothing to do with opinion.

Yo I am anti-water as well cuz you can drown

Did you know breathing air causes lung cancer?

Hey, I'm against breathing t...

Mhmm i am too

Yo im anti-life because every life ends in death

As Willy Wonka would say: _"strike that - reverse it."_ Your "risk" already exists as the infectious pathogens are out there spreading. Ergo you either stimulate immunity via vaccines which stress your body less - OR - you roll the dice to catch the full-blown illness. That of course comes with vastly higher chances for an adverse outcome. A child unable to abide exposure to a weakened vaccine would more than likely react poorly to simply catching the full-blown illness. Think about it.

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Second chances 123.. TWO THOUUUSAND TWELVE!!

Jack Huntsman Yes. Exactly my mom. She says nope don’t trust them they know NOTHING

“Because the internet says so”

@@sydthakyd98 and are the same ones to say not everything is true, these people are hypocrites

Doctor:this is a needle. Mother:no that's autism.

@philip trevor And that source is a collection of decades of reaserch, experience and sacrifice. Made by millions...

Marissa is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

It could of came through vaccines but I doubt it.

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To marissa ... arthritis > death 😂

Dont worry, someone mentioned that the anti vax pediatrician is on probation from the medical board, lol

Santiago PoopPee ScatVore oh yeah. He’s in it to make money. He’s spouting garbage

Santiago PoopPee ScatVore what really? I wonder why they chose him for this video then

He might be faking it

Evan Markos I YELLED LMAO

I SNORTED

wheww i had to laugh

I laughed

Arnold lander ............. he probably sits there living a normal life, not destroying herd immunity and putting hundreds of thousands of others in the world at risk, and not dying... from easily preventable diseases

omg preach!

Because they only care about their own opinion and don't care about the safety of their kids...

vaccines only help build a resistance to the virus, the vaccine contain a virus and antigen but usually in very small amounts. This allows your body to recognize the virus when it enters your body and fight it off easier if you encounter the virus later in life. Just like water resistant technology, it's not water proof. Same with vaccines you are not virus proof. A misunderstanding is that if you're vaccinated you can't catch the virus which is false. You'd still catch the virus either way but the people who are vaccinated can fight off infection easier due to being exposed to the virus through vaccines the immune system recognizes it. Well that's what the theory says, there is exceptions like if you have a weak immune system then your body doesn't fight it off quicker and you still get it. There's been cases of people who are vaccinated against measles or the flu they still get measles /flu mostly due weak immune system. There is also many strains of viruses and virus evolve over time they are always changing. 1 vaccine is not a cure it all medicine it doesn't work like that. The risks of not vaccinating are exactly the same as being vaccinated, but vaccines come with their own risk of injury ranging from allergic reactions, contaminated vaccines & toxins. We know that vaccine injury definitely exists because of the victims and because vaccine court has paid them money for it after they were able to prove it was caused by vaccines. We know in some rare circumstances children have even died from vaccines as with the recent case in samoa. You can spread germs on hands even if vaccinated, I believe good hygiene and sterilizing the surface of anything you touch / eat off is the key to staying virus free.

seems like you're basing your opinions on unfounded industry "science". Vaccines do not, and never did - contribute towards good health in the least!

GrowingDownUnder yes, i agree with keeping a good hygiene and all that stuff. having yourself vaccined first is your choice anyway. what i learn is that, it’s better to do a prevention first and that’s it.

Surgery probs doesnt need vaccines

She probably meant in terms of allergies and stuff but the way it was worded kinda seemed ignorant

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Des are only taught they are safe and effective they learn nothing else about vaccines in med school...so the parent is usually waaaaaay more educated on VACCINES

@@jmartini544 Are you kidding? Doctors go through years of study on all topics, including on vaccines, and you seriously believe a parent who has spent a couple hours on the internet is more educated than a doctor? Furthermore, the mechanisms of vaccines are taught in high school biology classes, and the anti-vaxxers are even getting those simple facts wrong.

Eric stop just stop. Doctors aren't Gods like calm down. Just cause someone "studies" something, and also if I might add, everything you are taught is all pre determined cause they want you to believe these things So please just stop. So many of these articles we reference and read are written by previous doctors who studied medicine. Go watch Vaxxed and just stop It goes so far beyond what you studied in school, it's called COMMON SENSE and I dont know about you put I trust in the body and immune system that GOD gave me

Najwa F If you have so much trust in your god than I’m sure you’ll have much more fun seeing him sooner than later

@@najwaf2670 OK, let me break your comment down. 1. "Doctors aren't gods" No, I'm not saying they are, I'm saying that because they have devoted their life into one field means they should have more of a say in that field. 2. "Everything you are taught is all pre determined cause they want you to believe these things." I don't know about you, but a lot of doctors and people in med school are able to test many of the things they learn by themselves to see for themselves. Not all of school is just lectures. 3. "I trust in the body and immune system" I do too. I trust my body to be able to fend of common diseases. However, many diseases are so bad or lethal that I don't trust my body to completely prevent symptoms, or to rid the disease during incubation period, during which, I might add, there is minimal immune response. I don't want to run the risk of getting these diseases, which is why I am pro-vaccine. 4. The definite response: If you don't want diseases in you, why do you get vaccines? In response to that, I would like to say that I have a healthy immune system and do not have any autoimmune disorders. Therefore, I would rather be exposed to weakened or inactive pathogens in a controlled environment in a scientifically tested manner than come into contact in the environment, where bodily harm is more likely.

Yep, how contradictory 🙄

@@bothpoint8667 Nope. You both missed the point. Anti-vaxxers do not say that all vaccines do not work. Some work very well. Others do not. Some have potentially serious long term side effects. Dr. Bob Sears is not anti-vax. He is pro informed consent so that parents and individuals can make an informed decision based on the risks of vaccines.

I’m guessing he’s antivax about himself and probably his kids, but he has that “you do you boo” mentality to his patients

@@izzyz3400 - He's not antivax.

Seems like he was more or less dragged onto the anti-vax side

Anti-vax movements are strong in most developed countries. Because Westerners aren't exposed to the horrors of the viruses these vaccines treat, many take for granted how much they owe to them.

@@jarynn8156 thats true. I live in a "third world " country (India )but i never have heard any opposition to vaccines

@@jarynn8156 yeah I agree

What do you mean. Do you not realize they are graduates of the "University" of Fakebook/Instagarbage/Twit-R/Faux News........ 🤣

But to avoid an epidemic of allergies to peanuts we need to avoid injecting proteins from them and avoid injection of anything that mimics their proteins and probably also need to avoid compromising their gut lining integrity when they or their breast-feeding mothers are eating them.

nowGo4ward I’m just making an analogy here... I’m saying that peanuts aren’t evil just because some are allergic to them, same as vaccines (I know peanuts aren’t #1 healthiest food or Everyone should eat peanuts or whatever, I’m just saying that a hyper-rare case of a good product creating a negative side effect on a child does not make the product evil, it’s just not good for that specific individual child).

next vid: Pro-Peanuter vs Anti-Peanuter : Should You Buy Peanuts?

But it means you should be caution to them to some extent.

Lone Wolf yes thats what she says but the way she answers some if the questions is troubling. For example she does not come forward with “not getting vaccinated endangers other people” this is evidence to my original point of her not fully realizing the implications of anti-vax. Her daughter is at the highest risk of endangerment being medically unable to be vaccinated. Herd immunity is the the only defense of her daughter and she seems to be fine with people not being vaccinated without there being a medical reason.

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It shouldn't be a choice tho don't get vaccsinates. Safe dont go to school and risk the health of others. That's your choice and it seems pretty fair to me

I wish she saw this

Yeah I thought the same...

Actually they get it = but they simply do not care. Vaccine opponents by and large are usually consumed with "me" = rather than "we". If you pay attention to what they say to rationalize their beliefs they are almost always emblematic of facile logic and egocentrism for their part. They are not looking at the larger picture here - usually on purpose. Have a nice day.

@@varyolla435 oh god. That’s even worse.😟

This video should be called "child health activists vs. child abusers."

This video should be called medical professionals vs. armchairs. Because they might as well be talking to nothing.

dr.mantis toboggan HA i love that

@@dr.mantistoboggan9695 This is actually pretty accurate.

I agree, they found people who didn't know anything about vaccinations to debate why they're bad.

casano3 Vacations never helped me with not getting sick. I've been Vaccine free and haven't been severely sick for going on 5 years now, of course I've had a few colds here and there but not to the point where it turned into something serious. I have a weak immune system and kidneys but get sick less then anyone I know that's Vaccinated.

@@izbella1857 The problem is when you get older or when there is an outbreak. I got chicken pox during high school, it was fine, but now I had the scar. (At least it is small scar) Then my uncle has polio and paralyzed now. You also might want to help the one that get autoimmune disease and can't get vaccinated. Just make sure you don't traveling or you get caught with foreigners disease.

Iz Bella that’s literally like saying I haven’t used a seat belt for the past 5 years and I haven’t gotten hurt but I know people that always wear seat belts but have gotten hurt and I have a cheap not safe car when other people have safer cars. It’s really more about luck than anything else. Also vaccines help make diseases less severe if you get it

No lol, I haven’t been vaccinated in over 10 years and I am fine. Everyday I am around multiple people who aren’t vaccinated either. Herd immunity is a false theory.

Exactly my point!

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i feel you on that

One of the anti-vaxxers is a doctor so yes I saw the frustration. Also, incredible how the extremely pro vaccine doctor describes his daughters issues which are proven (included in the vaccine side effects inserts) to be caused by vaccines...

Jordan Cox bet the daughter lives longer than those that aren’t vaccinated... know the pros over the cons

Bryan Castaneda Well antivaxxers don't have a lower chance of living in the US mainly because most of the population is vaccinated and the disease is mostly dead alrdy. Except for the tetnus types which are a different vaccine anyways.

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QR Studio you just basically proved vaccines good. The only reason anti Vaxxers are living long lives is because the people who do take vaccines protect from spreading the illnesses.

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@@peaceofcake2153 no but hes a professional who knows what hes talking about.

I'd much rather trust a professional with my health than a random soccer mom

@@peaceofcake2153 You're not wrong but he knows better than her. By far. She uses her anecdotal experience from herself vs his decades of knowledge and hundreds, if not thousands, of patients.

dark green leaves He said to not blindly trust, to question and discuss but that the pros outweigh the cons. Which is all true.

Your argument here as it happens = is what one would expect from a kid - just saying. 1 - you *ASSUME* all the anti-vaxxers you see here are real people. That is a poor assumption. Trolls/bots/sock puppet accounts are legion on this platform. 2 - asking questions is okay. Presuming to know the proper answer when you admit you do not understand the science however........ 3 - the infectious diseases that vaccines work against are real = ergo their impact is also therefore real. In other words stop acting like only vaccines carry "risk" as that is superficial thinking. If a dozen people a year react badly to say the MMR vaccine to end up filing a claim with the VICP in the US = actual Measles alone used to send tens of thousands to the hospital each year before there was an MMR vaccine - it is a matter of historical record. Thus serious adverse reactions to vaccination are very rare - exceedingly rare. The same occurring as a result of people who catch the illness in question however = are much, much more frequent. You see one outcome or the other will happen because of #3. Your chances with vaccination are exponentially better. Final thought. Vaccines are weaker by design. So a person unable to tolerate exposure to a weakened vaccine = think how they would react to simply catching the full-blown infectious disease "naturally"...... 🤔

Look at the possible side effects of a give vaccine. Now look at what the infectious disease the vaccine helps prevent also causes in humans infected with it = note the similarity of symptomatology. Thus as both can cause a similar outcome it becomes a matter of which one is more likely to elicit those adverse side effects. History and science show that the chances of your incurring a serious side effect from vaccination is a fraction of the same should you simply catch the infectious disease in question. Meanwhile the more people vaccinated the better the "herd immunity" = which helps reduce local incidence of the illness = which reduces your chances of being exposed in the first place. As vaccines elicit weaker immune reactions by design than simple becoming infected it bears noting that people unable to tolerate exposure to a weakened vaccine = would likely react similarly - or worse - upon simply being infected to bear a full-blown infection. So it is always sad when someone reacts badly to vaccination. Yet the reality is that far more react worse to simply acquiring these vaccine-preventable illnesses. Exposure becomes a matter of "when" rather than "if". 🤔

​@@varyolla435 If that was true we could compare the health of vaccinated people and unvaccinated people throughout history and now and see who is better off. No studies like that have been done on more than one vaccine at a time in isolation, and many vaccines haven't even been looked at at all. Isolated studies, while helpful, don't tell us about accumulative effects and the combination of vaccines at once. (Note these isolated studies aren't vaxxed unvaxxed studies they are partiallyv vaxxed Vs fully vaxxed So you have to compare fully vaxxed and fully unvaxxed as well. Also, we don't really know for sure what the effectiveness of vaccines is. We cannot easily assess what percentage of the decrease in death and cases since vaccine rollouts is due to vaccines causally because other things have played massive roles in that mitigation. It's also easy to misdiagnose diseases. For example, we know many cases of polio were misdiagnosed and were really something else like transverse Myelitis or GBS , and diseases that may have been caused by other things or caused by polio through other things. One theory that has never been put to bet regarding polio is that there was a lot of gut cell damage caused by the overusage of dangerous pesticides like DDT and lead arsenate over the 20th century that we knew caused paralysis in animals that we knew caused damage to the lower gut wall. This would explain a lot. It would explain why polio effected young children more than adults, because the gut is closer to the spinal cord in young children and polio viruses are contained in the gut microbiome close enough to the spine that it could transport over to it through this damage. It would also explain why every other theory scientists thought explained why polio effected kids more than adults didn't work out. It would explain why it affected the legs more so than anywhere else. Which is also something doctors and scientists couldn't make sense of with any other explanation. It would explain why it was so seasonal, and so common in the summer months, when these chemicals were sprayed all over the food. Which is also something the scientists couldn't explain any other way. It would also explain why polio so badly affected countries like the USA where pesticides like DDT were sprayed to oblivion onto all the food and crops and in the streets. And why polio didn't affect the Philippinos when Americans in the Philippines were suffering so badly. It would also explain why people in the country and rural areas knew about polio more than in the suburbs. The list goes on, temporalily and chronologically there is strong correlation too. So it's not as obvious as you think.

@@althepsyphros3314 🦜 Your cut & paste response typifies the superficial logic behind vaccine opposition. I suppose I should thank you for that example. Everything you just ranted - everything = belies *NOT* understanding. Your Polio rationalization is an example of incredulity-based logic as you gin up endless "what if......" responses so as to justify your obvious lack of understanding here = yet nothing indicates a desire to rectify the problem. Polio is not misdiagnosed for the simple fact that anyone presenting with neurological symptoms synonymous with Polio would be tested = and the presence of the virus would show. Vaccine-preventable illnesses such as Polio are "reportable events" and thus anyone suspected must be tested and if positive = that is reported. Similarly Poliovirus is spread via contaminated water/sewage and accordingly sources of water - such as contaminated wells in your rural areas or pools etc. such as people visit in the warmer weather = facilitate its spread. The virus can exist in the environment for up to 2 months - further enhancing its ability to spread. So all you ranted is explainable if you understand the science - which you don't. p.s. - there are loads of safety studies out there relating to co-administration of vaccines on the schedule. Perhaps you should parrot anti-vaccine talking points and conjecture less = and learn the science and study the issue more. So much for purported "self-research". Dunning-Kruger and confirmation bias as always rules for some.

@@govlovesyou1334 You haven't actually said anything you know. So one can assume your understanding here = is similarly nil. So how's the weather in St. Petersburg??? 🤨

Lauren Guilmeyer my thoughts exactly! Your opinion is not valuable medical advice if you aren’t a trained medical professor.

But..but she knows her kids better than the Dr. SMH.

Carlmdb she knows her kids personally but she doesn’t know ANYTHING medically. Compared to him.

I know. I was taking the piss.

I'm a medical student with an engineering degree. I told a friend of mine, who happens to be a firefighter... "Look, debating me about science with no backing is like me debating you about how you should fight a fire."

Ice cream really is a rocky road!

ON POINT

I agree with the first part so much

Well you obviously don’t if you want people to come here and possibly spread the virus. I think they should do this virtually, stop trying to spread corona.

Kamogelo Maponya that’s literally what I said, try reading

Drunk Sonic who shat in ya cereal

Revenant joe

Ngl sounds like an argument between trump supporters and everyone else

Ikr these idiots

Ikr? It should be "my kid can't take vaccines, so everyone else should."

@@matt4280 No that would be too informed.

AB05 yeah but most of these things just want to cause a riot

@Ebon Knight You're free to be wrong.

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that is valid in the internet age. A cancer doctor might not know anything about vaccines, but there are a plenitude of sources available online to everyone equally. But ONLY if your sources are plural, credible, and in agreement with one another. The great problem with specialization is that as the amount of information you have authority over becomes more specialized, your authority becomes more suspect -- and just knowing how to figure out who knows the real facts about what is now beyond many of these dullards' grasp. What, in Karen's mind, is the difference between a "doctor" of naturopathy and one who specializes in vaccines? They're both called doctor, so they have the same qualifications, right? Yeah no, hell no, not at all.

Doctors are told vaccines are good not how they work, what they are made of, or where they come from. They are told how to use vaccines not why to use them. They make soooooooooooooo much money of vaccines y'all have no idea. Don't come at me I have an antivax mom I have been feed lies. I will vaccinate my kids when I have them even though I don't have any.

Wow so the internet isn’t a creditable source 🤭 lmao

​@@tetryst man if you study to be a doctor you learn about everything in great detail, then you specialize in your chosen field. The first statement you made is not true.

@@doyoungi7006 It's funny what you're saying because you ALSO learn in school how vaccines work.

Cecilie Larsen what?

@@jeremeantinegogogo1096 He refused to give vaccines to his patients and created/used an alternate vaccine program which was never approved which lead to several of his patients getting measles in an outbreak that can be directly lead back to him refusing to vaccinate someone. Because of this his license got taken away. John Oliver actually has an episode that covers part of that nonsense.

@@wowdragonsoul8712 when did that happen?

Could you source that please? Instead of claiming? Thank you....

Knoet Shoot • Do you not know how to read a YT video description box? It gives a link to his FB page.

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People often become inured to their surroundings. Thus as an example a person who is beginning to manifest signs of Alzheimer's may see family members as the last ones to catch on as they simply "get used to" what they see every day. More importantly here however is they are not qualified to objectively view what they see so as to reach possible conclusions = whereas doctors are. So you are correct in that the "it is my child" is not a valid point from which to possibly assess behavioral abnormalities as parents are not trained to do so. A doctor sees lots of children on a regular basis and thus know exactly what to look for as they often see these abnormal behaviors as well as are educated on what to look for. People like to rationalize based upon ignorance and assumption - which is what you see here. Have a nice day.

Sam from vaccines I bet

Stephanie Sowers or I don’t know. Something a lot more plausible than that.

@@ssowers33180 Where is your research.

Give up my dad has diabetes

@@mariasabeha5928 mine has a gold tooth

IKR

This is so true

Did you actually watch the video? Because it kinda seems like you're the one not listening

edit: I don't promote the antivax movement

It's like arguing with an adult when your a kid.

Anti-vaxx research = look at random, unreliable stuff on the internet

Im not a anti vax but thats appeal to authority

@@jacobdebon3260 I'd still rather trust a trained doctor who has studied this than some random parent who has looked at some unreliable stuff on the internet.

@Great Gatsby Do you have a document or source about how doctors aren't educated? I some how find that hard to believe. And we aren't talking about a general doctor who hasn't specialised in vaccines, we're taking about the doctors who study and create them. I'm pretty sure they're educated about them.

@Great Gatsby I literally said "I'd rather trust a trained doctor who has studied this" not a doctor more specialised in something else. But even then, they'll know more than the average parent who looked stuff up on the internet.

Anti Vax mom: I vaccinated my kids as per the schedule, and as per my doctor recommended. My child who was speaking in full sentences since18 months of age, who was totally neurotypical, having reached all milestones early, regressed into autism after a booster shot. He now can no longer speak, he does not make eye contact and he began to have seizures daily since the booster shot, within 2 hours. Doctor; your son is overdue for his flu vax and Gardasil shot. How dare you deprive me of income from vaccines, which is the main source of my income? What about my bonus for having all my patients vaccinated??

Christine Paolini what?

Christine Paolini but those things happen to vaccinated kids too and i’d rather have my child autistic and alive than dead from an almost eradicated disease i could have prevented

Christine Paolini listen to the professionals.

@@claireann2415 I do listen to the professionals, I changed doctors, my new doctor hasn't vaccinated his 5 children and a lot of his practise to is devoted to helping vaccine injured children by detoxification. You'd be surprised by how many doctors disagree with the aggressive vaccine schedule. Look up the work of vaccine specialist Dr Peter Aaby and what he concluded after looking at the results of his vaccine program in Guinea Bassau 30 years later. The mortality stats will shock you. UNICEF is currently facing a law suit because of it.

BAD NEWS TOY PAPA BEAR UNITED STATES OF UHMERICA!!!

Same! She looks like a hipster lol

Lmao😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

I was surprised her name wasn’t “Karen”

Queen Alexandra i saw her and after hearing her opening statement i prayed she wasn’t anti vaxx

She looks very weak and pale

If you don’t know what bangs are because you ain’t North American, it means fringe

Kangaroo Fam bro I’m not even North American, I’m Danish

@AB05 man, if you're going to make some "research", do it with some degree of scholarship. Study about it, really study, talk with professionals, get to know the process behind making a vaccine; some of the scientists behind them can wait years till one gets approved and they're constantly being improved so the side-effects have a smaller chance to happen. The problem with anti-vaxxers is the same as flat earthers, they research on Google but they don't even take the work to study in real life about what they're talking about; I'm not saying to blindly trust those who studied tho but I'm saying to study for yourself in a real school. Also, most of the people who make vaccines don't even profit that much as all the "researchers" says, they have sometimes to **give** the vaccine (just like on that pandemic situation we're at), and most of the time they spend even more than they will ever make selling it. One last thing that I highly recommend for anti-vaxxers: STUDY MEDICINE.

Kangaroo Fam thx

I'm surprise she got bangs, who would want to marry an Anti-vaxxer?

Beth Charlene when she said she was too young to have arthritis I literally eye rolled. Clearly she did no research it's actually quite common I've known many teens that have had arthritis and foundations that support kids with arthritis.

Andrea Mendenhall yes but that doesn’t mean that young people can’t have it.

Miss Venety exactly. Anti-vaxxers make me laugh. I personally can’t take them seriously

Andrea Mendenhall nah. Not really.

Andrea Mendenhall nah u get reactions and got minor sickness but my view never changed because in the long run I was protected

Lol

@Victoria Ashlyn You have no clue what you're talking about. Look up the 30 year vaccine program established by Dr Peter Aaby in Guinea Bassau. Report back once you've read the results... if your attention span lasts that long and you can read some scientific research.

Christine Paolini in the years following the introduction of the measles vaccine, reported numbers of cases fell from hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands, this is also true for pretty much every other vaccinated disease. Vaccines work, just accept it and stop trying to be different

Anti-vaxx kids don't last that long.