Producing Bosphorus Master 

James Bryce uh im pretty sure thats a 5 againt 3 against 7 against 9 against 69 against 42 😂😂

They Djent

Hahahahahahahhahaha

First thing I heard was that 3:4 lol

Wtf is Ronald even talking about? Someone is indeed high.

A Customs are shit

Ronald West Who pissed in your cereal?

Ronald West Zildjian cymbals have less hands on craftsmanship than any of the Turkish brands. No hand hammering. You can’t fault Zildjian since OSHA would never allow hand hammering. Sabian hand hammers and Paiste does also. With that said Zildjian and Sabian make the best Turkish style cymbals outside Turkey. So what statement exactly are you offended by?

Me too! Perfection.

It'd be interesting to Ask the workers how they feel, because "better" is relative. These men look and seem VERY harmoniously happy in their work environment. And they make cymbals with love for the world not just "us".

Yea but a cheap 3m respirator might get in the way of their hammer strokes. But it looks like they do have ear plugs in.

Id like to know, what a cymbals Mic (micrometer) would look like, enormous jaws, and just a .5 to zero range, if that, with ball radius anvils each end.

@@ryanb1874 what does that mean?

It's funny that the Istanbul mehmet factory and Turkish both have better environment than Bosphorus, while Bosphorus being the most expensive to buy lol

technique . . .

@@anthonysaponaro6318 That will only help you so far. Try playing a 20" Paiste 2000 ride (for example) in a bigband or for jazz, just sounds terrible. Thick cymbals sound loud, harsh, agressive and way too bulky, rather use those for rock and what not. Thinner cymbals, like these in the video, sound soft, warm, transparent, forgiving and are also crashable, which automatically expands your palet in jazz playing

@@JeffreyMiddelveld I like the thin cymbals for just crashes, high hats and china types,all of my rides have to be heavy

@@JeffreyMiddelveld I've been playing for over 57 years and started out with Zildjian Avedis (before "A" Series) and didn't have access to any "K" series at the time. Since then, I've tried many brands, thicknesses and weights and slowly switched from rock to pop to big band and finally, small venues with mostly acoustic instruments. My favorite cymbals in any brand are thinner and lighter with lower profile bells which give me the dark and warm tones that I want. This is to say, this is MY favorite recipe and not to imply that my style is the best. I have Bosphorus Traditional Series cymbals and love them, particularly the thinner ones.

Same here!

I have a 20" inch hammer series which is lovely They're all different though, so do try before you buy if possible, or at least a sound file

What?

@@LibertyPrime-mc6hp can you imagine working in that room for 10 years ..............

@@dizzolve what? 🦻

What? Huh?

Are you talking about the "hammering room"? I guess it just takes patience...AND passion.

And yes they are wearing ear plugs for protection

Which terrorists the Americans !?

Well I think the companies with machines could make many more, and control the sound, nearly identicaly, but then, you might have to make 1000000 vs 10000 or so, not even sure what the total cymbals profusion number is, how high is it, if you make too many, than everyone in the world would need to be a cymbals hunger drummer, and, then, the distincness would disapeer, as soon as enough people had any every kind of cymbal

If theyre good enough for Neil theyre good enough for me . . . . .Sabian HHX and Paragons are the best in all of music

But I suppose it really just boils down to what each person hearsd and how they hear it and what they like better, some people might like the more thin mostly brass cymbals, I hate them , they sound to ringy and tinny

@@anthonysaponaro6318 Just saying that a particular brand is the best doesn't really say anything. It depends on what you need or want within the model lines. For example, I love Sabian HHX but I had a Stage Ride that I absolutely hated. It was a great cymbal, but just not for me.

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Sometimes cymbals are made with machines and it’s amazing how they do it by hand

yes, but the workers don't earn that whole money... I hope they make good money.

300 is a lot but I have a 450 dollar 22" Paragon , I don't see any of these kinds of strikes on it I also have a 22" heavy Sabian HHX that was even more than that and it does have these marks even more pronounced I'd say expensive but they are the most crisp sounding cymbals I ever owned, nothing comes close ,the bad part is it takes weeks to save for each one ! but as said previously, well worth the money

Dislikes probably because we didn't get to hear the finished product/s

there a result in 37'28",if you watch them all.

The cymbal wasn't finished so wet fart, agree would like to hear the final product

Man you sound like a whiny karen

Tune, they may need to hear the hammer strikes to measure how hard they are hitting. Every time I see cymbals being hammered, it is a metal hammer on a metal base, no protection or padding. No soft or absorbent surface, just a ring of the metal.

The hammering changes the specific density of an area (the hammer strike) and the pattern, size and number of hammer strikes create the specific sound pattern. I think, from observation, that the hammering adds complexity. Also, hammered cymbals seem darker and dryer than unhammered cymbals, compared one to one, I think. I noticed that lathed and unhammered cymbals seem brighter, more direct and seem to sustain longer at a higher volume. Again, my assumption is that if the metal is unhammered, the cymbal is more of a unit and hammering adds different tones and complexity.

@@markwlewisonutube Yes!

Sean LaMontagne do you know the antique series ?

I was thinking that exact thing. I was waiting for someone to hit the thing to hear how it sounded.

I believe that manufacturers must let the metal rest for a few weeks. Then they test the sound before distribution

5:4 right after

In turkey they are in full supply of actual men, no need for a daddy program like OSHA to keep the safe

There is. But the people feel more confertable with sandals.

A forge? In Turkey? Yeah, probably normally hotter than hell in there.

Turkey I think haS RECENTLY ADOPTED A FORM OF oCCUPATIONAL sAFETY SCAM

😂😂😂 there is always one smart ass in the. Comments section that manages to make me laugh... this was funny as hell. Ty for that

They hammer them for the sound, not their ability to spin. Why do you need them to spin? I've been playing since 1965 and never, ever cared about this. The only cymbal I ever spin is the top hi hat right after setting up my drums, just so that it sits at the correct angle for the "chick" sound that I want and that is only once, before I start to play.

OOPS! I meant the bottom hi hat, to position it in its felt before I start to play.

Spadger McTeagle Thats what she said.

I don't know if you know this, but a cymbal's edge (before being dulled) is very sharp.

I know! I like that Agop 30th anniversary series are blank. More should be

It already has the music of cymbal hammering! There's all sorts of rhythms happening there.

They feature some good deals for those on Amazon. I got a 17'' Antique crash for 190$CAD (about 150$ USD).

The guys are pros . They don need no stinking glasses .

And yet they're still happier than most of us. Money ain't everything, and it hardly is anything.

@@vasilias2230 How would you know how happy these guys are? Also, who is them vs. us? I'm sure this wasn't your intend, but it feels like you are having some leveled view on people.

@@plasticgodzilla1 Your grammar makes it hard to understand your comment

Homer Simpson he was wearing ear protection.

Bosphorus Cymbals bosphoruscymbals.com Habibler Yildiz Cad. No. 40A Sultangazi, Istanbul, Turkey Phone: +90 212 595 0263

MI Dante sabians are made in Canada, not turkey

They are wearing in ear protection lol. The guy walking around for half the video is blatantly wearing them. Attention to detail much. Also, you dont really need eye protection for this. The velocity of lathing and the process here honestly doesn’t require it. Its up to the cymbal smith anyways. Sabians artisans dont all wear eye protection.

@@FanaticDrummer yeah.... you don't need the protection until you do, then it's too late lmao.

thats capitalism for ya!

@@xochitlvilorio8085 what do you want then, communism?

@@userplayeraccountno, a regulated form of capitalism that keeps the nation's economy inside of it's borders. No outside sourcing, no low wage immigrants

@@xochitlvilorio8085 Pretty sure #1 they're not in America where labor laws protect workers from such things or at the very least are meant to

They are wearing in-ear protection, chill out man! I thought the same.