Built your y6, instead of the flywoo FC and ESC used a skyzone atom rc stack, and instead of the 3d printed camera mount used a metal cage from an armattan quad also used happy model motors with a lower kv and will be using 4s lipos. Thanks for the frame design.
so great to hear you built one! I also have Skyzone ESC here, however i haven't tried it out yet. Great to hear it works well for you. Enjoy your flights!
I ordered one of these from Nick. All the screws were 6mm long. Too long for the motor plates. I separately ordered m2 3mm screws. You may get with him and let him know the right sizes.
I would be interesting that the reliant be a flat 4 quad design cine whoop using the Shendrons Terraplane ducts, I think this design helps the vertical CG, most quads are top heavy
Thanks so much! And amazing to hear you're building one! If you ever should make a video, please link it here! We need more Y6 drones out there for sure! I've just finished building a 2" super micro version of it, video will be coming soon! Next is a 7" version, basically a reliable serious long-rang machine. I haven't been working on a X8 version so far, as my design is heavily influenced by the Shendrones Sicchario - which already is an X8 craft (big kudos to Andy Chen!). However his is a large 8" carrier for professional videocameras and less a funflier, so i might actually go down the X8 route one day as well. Feel free to follow for more unusual drones ;-)
Came across your Reliant frame design on cnc-drones, followed to Thingyverse and then here on YT. Like you am fascinated by the Flywoo Hexplorer and Shen Drones Cinelifter. Taking closer look at Flywoo F745 FC, I noticed it has option to drive 8 motors, so thinking would be possible to use stack that included 2x of 4-n-1 ESC (just need to wire vs pins) Really like how light and stiff your frame appears to have turned out. See in comments you been able to get the Y6 reliant back in the air and are enjoying. Would be nice to hear an update of your thoughts on the design, flight and a review of the project. While it appears to have have met your expectations, would be curious if you would make mods, or do anything different? BTW: Thanks for the great tip on using the power-switch.
Hi there, and sorry for the late reply! I'll be making an update video as soon as spring will hit and it's nice to go out and fly again :-) I'm still flying it the way i built it back then, and it's just perfect as a mid-range cruiser. I'm currently working on a 7" version, after finishing a 2" version just today. Stay tuned!
Totally! That would work just as fine. However i usually try to no tamper with that if i can, as it's something i need to remember when flashing a new firmware. Building so many drones i tend to forget these specialities 🙂
I built a 5” long range using (Stan FPV 2604 1690kv motors) the flatter wider pancake shaped motors give me long flight times. I’m going for high torque, low rpm. I’m getting 14-15min on a 6s Lipo 1500mah. Then is also can give me crazy power bursts for freestyle if I want. I haven’t tried a Li-ion battery yet.
@@eyeflytinkerings unfortunately I do not have a page. Here a list of components. Diatone Roma F5 frame Stan FPV 2604 1690kv Speedy bee 45amp F7 v2 stack( using the pid tuning tyat the stack comes with) I’m also using analog FPV video and carting no go pro. The props are Dalprop SpitFire T5148.5 tri-blade
@@wethepeople420 you should post it on Rotorbuilds! Would love to see it. May i ask what flighttimes you're getting with this setup? EDIT: Sorry, just realized you already said so in the first post :-)
@@eyeflytinkerings I keep hoping to find props that are wide, giving a larger surface area so I can take better advantage of the high torque motors. Like DJI uses on the phantom or the mavic.
My one gripe is with the 18mm standoffs, and thats only due to them not being all that common to find. But i understand that 15mm is too short and 20mm would make it pretty thick
This was a fun build! I really enjoy flying it and I've gotten nearly 20-minute flight times on 3S 21700 packs. Great for mid-range flying! Thanks for the design and for making it readily available. Have you noticed a tendency for the Y6 pitch to drift upwards during what should be level flight? When my pitch stick is centered, the drone noses up, so I constantly have to apply a little pitch while in flight. Does tuning make this go away at all? I haven't learned how to tune yet, so maybe that's the next step?
Hi there! Very excited to hear you've build one, thats awesome 🙂 Regarding having to pitch forward, which mode are you flying in? I guess horizon or angle mode? If so i'd suggest that your accelerometer isn't calibrated well.
@@eyeflytinkerings I have, RPY channels are all at 1500 +/- 2 with neutral sticks. Nobody who's heard all the details has known what to do about it. I wish there was a way to get the flight controller to spin up the rear two motors a little more than they already do during forward flight - that would probably make this issue go away but I have no idea if that's possible. It doesn't seem like it from within BF or Bluejay. Trying to do something like that would probably require digging down into the firmware itself. I don't think I know enough C to confidently do that yet. Even if I have to constantly adjust pitch a little, it's still fun and unique. I've got some 5000mAh 21700 cells on the way, should get some great cruising time out of those!
@@aefpv_6236 thats really strange, mine definitely doesn't do that... however in this case i'd suggest using the trimming feature of your transmitter to make up for it. Not ideal, but should work fine. And please report back how the 5000mAh work for you! Are you using the same motors i am? 1404 3700kv?
Hi just wanted to complement you on the y6. I built mine awhile ago and have since helped a few people on discord tune theirs. Harmonics wise it's a very clean frame and as a y6 tunes easily, as a y4 it's a bit harder to tune but has its own character while flying it. Maybe one day you can take the same form factor and make it an x8 mini cinedrone? Just a thought. Thanks so much for taking the time to design such a cool frame.
Thank you so much for taking your time to comment! It‘s so great to hear that you‘ve not only built one for yourself, but also supported others in building theirs. Sadly there isn‘t any form of backchannel from the Thingiverse/cncdrones side, so i‘m not aware how many people actually built one 😅 feedback like yours really helps motivating me to do videos like these and share the stuff i‘m working on. A x8 version would definitely be an option. I can see it‘s use if you want to carry a heavier camera - is there a specific usecase that you have in mind? Or just in general, as x8 is a fun project? Both are fine, however if there is a specific camera that should be able to fit on it, i‘d love to know before starting the design. What i‘m currently working on is a 2“ version of the frame using 1203.5 motors. This should carry the DJI FPV system and still be able to fly stable and more like a 3-4“ quad.
@@eyeflytinkerings I will absolutely be building the 2" version. The way the arms come up on the y6 reminds me of skynet from terminator movies honestly the reason I built it was because it looks so strange. You would be really happy with the response I get from your design when I fly the y6 at local ama field everyone loves it even fixed wing LOS guys normally don't care for quads it seems. The X8 for me would be just for fun and I want to see it it will fly 2 motors out. I learned yesterday that the flywoo hex f7 version is actually an f745 and has and arducopter target and the newest release of arducopter is really good. I could just setup waypoints and watch it fly around me :). I been wanting to post a tuning video with the 6 in a 4 motor configuration because it's harder to tune but sound like I hit my head on a rock Everytime I look at a camera. I did make a tiny video but mostly so people will stop asking if I'm actually an old man. I'll stop typing now just super excited to nerd out with someone.
Indeed the HK-drone from Terminator was my main inspiration. It's great to hear that people at your local field noticed this different looking drone :-) Regarding the X8 - actually even with the Y6 it should still fly with 2 motors out! Except of they are not both on the same arm of course. I haven't played around with Arducopter myself, but i know it's a super versatile system. I planned to check out INAV soon though. Making a video can be quite hard at the beginning. It's the same for every content creator. You never see the many failed takes. Especially getting over the initial blockage in your head is hard. Most times the first recorded snipped is the most difficult ones. I sometimes had over 30 attemps before i was satisfied... while later shots usually just take 1-3 attempts. So don't feel bad - just keep going :-) I'd love to see another video of the Reliant Y6 out there! About the 2" Y6 - i've just uploaded the design on Thingiverse. It's still work in progress. When it's done, i'll send it over to cncdrones as well. Feel free to give it a shot :-) btw: you shouldn't have to do such a video for proofing your person. Just let them trolls be trolls.
Oh, it's flying awesome! I got busy with other things, but it's my go-to drone for midrange stuff these days. Flies amazing, a manages 2 failed motors/props. Still getting similar flight times to my 4" quad. I'm also working on a tiny 2" version 🙂
Does it get more efficient if you add stator vanes between the props? Think push/pull on a PC CPU cooler, with a static disks with air flow guide vanes between the props. If that works, you can then use significantly more aggressive pitch on the lower props, as the air already arrives at the airfoil "sped up".
Hi there! You mean ducts like on Cinewhoops? This would be interesting to test. However a using ducts usually flies very different, i personally never enjoyed these too much. Still, with a Y6 it might be worth a shot for sure :-)
@@eyeflytinkerings not quite. Have a look at airplane turbines. They gain significant amounts of power and therefore efficiency by using stators, which are like rotors, but stationary between the compressor stages. So the idea would not be to turn your props in to ducted fans, but to just put something that would look a bit like an apple slicer on the arms between the props to guide and straighten the prop wash from the upper prop in to the lower prop, meaning less turbulence for the lower prop and thus more go juice.
@@eyeflytinkerings Yeah, same problem for me. I'd have said print something like 7-9 stators with a 3D-printer and use the arm that the motors are hanging on to make the number even, then surround them with a duct, but that will probably make the drone behave quite weird due to the stators being angled in flight, as well as resistance due to the duct. An engineer's perspective on coaxial would be very helpful. I really like your design btw, Y6 was something I hoped to build and here's yours looking way better than what I came up with in my head. Having the arms angle up to clear the lower props from the ground is inspired. I thought it might look weird but it really doesn't. I'm still in the learning to fly on a sim stage though, so it'll be a while before i'll build a Y6. Mine would probably end up with larger props at lower speeds for even more efficiency, with higher revving and smaller props facing down, but yours seems to be the perfect compromise between portability and endurance.
I haven't been able to fly again after this short maiden sadly. Will need to wait for the replacement FC, but will be reporting back to you when i can provide an answer. But from what i can tell after the maiden and the mAh used, i guess 15-17mins with the GoPro should be realistic.
glad you like it! Yes, these motors should work just fine! However you will need to fly them with the right amount of cells. So probably 4s instead of 3s, to get enough thrust. And of course you need 6 of them instead of 4 :-)
Hey - nice idea to build this! Have you managed to tune this y6 pretty well? I am wondering if it is generally a good frame type for fpv?! In the maiden flight there is jittering - so have you get rid of it to achieve a smooth flight? If yes i would like to build one for myself :)
I did a simple "basement tuning", and with it i got it flying more stable and smooth than any quad i've ever built! It feels different, more "locked on" - difficult to describe. It's my no.1 mid-range drone still. Currently working on a 2" version as well ;-)
They do, but their shop currently doesn‘t support it (yet?). Just write them an eMail, and they will tell you the shipping costs. Let me know if there should be any issues.
Hi there! Have you seen the Shendrones Siccario? It uses the same way basic ideas that i've used in my Y6 design as well. Not sure about the prop size, but it's a heavy lifter. If there will be a bigger version of the frame, it'll most likely be Y6 again.
Any 5inch design , looking to Make independent 😉 , because I have lots of spare arms so I need only 2nd motor mount and main uper and lower plate design 😉
No plans for a 5" version at the moment I'm afraid 😬 however I can check if it works without changing the main plates - this way you would only need longer arms in case you've already build the 4" version. Would that be of interest?
Yeah, that is very sad indeed. There is an 6in1 ESC from Skyzone Atom RC, but reliability has not been that great. But 20x20 should also work. (See the post by @quadthingcopter5984 below)
That would work perfectly! However you will still need all frame parts, as the 2 motor plates are needed to secure the motor mount of each arm. Y4s also work well with current Betflight at least. And you can safe yourself the price of 2 motors :-)
I would love to build this drone but just to confirm the guys at cncdrones have the latest frame files? their website says that the files they have are from april 11 but in thingiverse the files were updated on may, I just want to make sure to get the latest frame Thanks
Very happy to hear! I approached cncmadness/cncdrones in early may, pointing them to the Thingiverse-Link. I did not update the designs since then, so i‘m sure they got the most up-to-date version. Very much looking forward to seeing your build!
@@eyeflytinkerings I just want to make sure before I pull the trigger, in the following link cncdrones.com/reliant--long-range-y6.html it says "Files lasted updated with Cncmadness on Apr 11, 2021" so I just want to make sure that if I order the frame with them, they will use the lastest files please let me know
There was only ever one version of the frame. But i wrote to Nick from cncdrones to correct the information in the shop. Will write you here when i hear back from him.
One important correction: At 14:14 i mixed up the positions of Motors 2 and 5 as well as 6 and 3 regarding which one is on top: It's actually the other way around - 2 and 3 are up, and 5 and 6 are down. Sorry!
