The sequence of that ceasefire negotiation... the result... the implication... it was written nicely done, i could see Woodward's frustration wanting to negotiate a ceasefire, but then they are rebel, invading Federation land outside their independence goal, I'd assume surrendering is not an option and will result in a court martial ended in summary execution. In other word... it's fun to commit massacre in this mission...
Considering how the Cascadians gleefully annihilated similarly retreating Federation soldiers over the Bering Strait, and all the atrocities they did in Magadan, not like they did not ask for it, and all the rest that followed.
PW has one of the best and most underrated war stories ever, these dialogues and scenarios... just pure insanity, kudos to the single guy writing and programming all this.
So... The Federation has around 7 Peacekeeper squadrons as we currently know. Crimson, Steel, Jade, Onyx, Ivory, Black and Tanager. However, Crimson seens to be the one with the highest rank and authority.
@@strawberrydragon1 Crimson was the Peacekeeper Squadron designated to Cascadia, and most of it's pilots are Cascadian nationals as well, and considering that Crimson is the squadron with the highest rank and authority within the Federation territory... that means Cascadia was one of the biggest Annexed regions that the Federation had, like a Second Crystal Kingdom, it might explain why the Federation kept the war going even after it became unsustainable, Cascadia was way too valuable to lose.
imagine the balls to be declaring "okay fight's over" when they were at a disadvantage AND already doing so much harm to Magadan and explicitly choosing not to surrender but to retreat to another ongoing front. dont know if theyre stupid or arrogant
Bro, I sure as hell ain't deactivating Driver after he decapited the Cascadian high command. I'd turn him full active duty and sent him to the real front.
You could, but that's if he's a fresh recruit with promising potential. There's an implication that the Cascadian invasion isn't his rodeo. And in a later mission, he implied he was a veteran of a previous war.
I often wondered myself if there was a division further up beyond the peacekeepers that we don't know of that are under strict secret orders of the Federation, Federation Intercept Specialist Division is just below the peacekeepers with most of their top pilots from the Federation state of Wilhelm, only thing that could be higher than peacekeepers irl are what I would probably call the "Federation Aggressor Force" consisting solely of federation state elite pilots with no political ties or bound by common military court of law and are simply death squads deployed into severe war zones, likely I imagined they became a thing in the background following the mercenary war of Oceania after Frost turned over her fellow mercs for asylum to work under Icarus Armories Contract. I had a name for the top squadron even though it's cliche FAF-07 000097 - GOLD Squad Size: 4 - Byzantium Nationals 1 - Ex Sinai Periphery Pilot Flights: 4 - SK.57 "Crooks" - SU-57's 1 - T/K.201 "Xerxes" - Ta.201 (ARMA III DLC JET) Squad Leader: Tacname - Gold Leader FAF Callsign - Golden 1 Ex SRF Callsign - Solomon Nickname - MIDAS Yeah seems cliche, doubt anyone will be reading this.
You know an alternate version where Monarch and Hitman team arrives somewhere in the second phase of this mission could be really cool. The mission suddenly turns from destroying as many Cascadians as you can to surviving and trying to minimize the damage Hitman can do
To be fair, only K-9A would survive, Monarch wing is by far more experienced than our squad. Only Driver would be in a 1v3 or just a 1v1 against Monarch, they seem to be on a very similar level if not equals by dialogue talking about Driver's flying like the one from Oceania.
@@hresvelgr7193 Maybe he's. Its stated he's basically hard carrying and baby sitting K-9, unlike Monarch who can let his team do his job, Driver has to go off his way to lead them, protect them, as well as stomp Cascadian and mercenaries forces.
@@hresvelgr7193 K-9A is a reservist, and is mostly canon that he's a veteran of the Oceania War, and one that gives ptsd to the black guard of Faust in the last mission. So idk in the end we dont know for sure
And reinforce the Cascadia contingent? That's why Federation denies their request because we already been told to prevent Cascadian forces in Magadan from reinforcing the contingency.
But still would be interesting if the play decideds not to engage, and just sit back and watch the rest of the Feds fininishing off...whether it would end up with a mission fail, or mission complete but everyone hates you?
@@simplyrealistc1232 That’s my thought as well, wish the developers had an expanded universe like what Star Wars had even some of it isn’t canon it would be nice to explore the World on fire a bit more.
A lot of people introduced to war through these games, a lot of ignorance about rules of engagement... Attacking retreating troops is not a war crime. (Attacking clearly surrendering troops is, but they weren't at all.) You know what is protected by the ICRC? Vital civilian supplies, i.e. the cordium plants. "Objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population are excluded from protection, if: a) they are used solely for sustenance of the armed forces; or b) they are used in direct support of military action (but the civilian population may not be thus reduced to starvation or forced to move)"
@@theregalproletariat did we not see the same video The response from Crystal Kingdom was a denial of a cessation of hostilities and the order to execute all prisoners, That's a war crime. Their exact words were: "kill them all" take no prisoners, and any prisoners already taken should be executed. And hitting power infrastructure is not a war crime, that's just what you do, when you're attempting to cause damage to enemy military infrastructure because the same power grid that powers the city powers the factory that's turning out guns that are killing your people, because why would you make them two separate grids? Power infrastructure is a valid target and when infrastructure is, hit civilians get displaced, that's pretty normal.
@@jblockman_59nunyabidnis68I could ask you the same... The request is (10:32) for all ACTIVE Cascadian units to evacuate and withdraw. Makes no mention of prisoners. Nor does Crystal Kingdom - just says they denied the request. Do you mean the line 'engage til enemy is nofactor'? Cause the meaning of that is flexible. And I didn't say that targeting power infrastructure is a war crime. I said targeting it to the point of driving the population to refugees (which Cascadia did, as evidenced by the "it's gonna be a long winter" line), and gave you a quote from the ICRC to back it up.
@@jblockman_59nunyabidnis68 no tears for the thousands of civilians that will die of no electricity in the winter, but lots of "oh no how sad" for the dogs of war that talked the talk but couldn't walk the walk of fucking around and finding out. they had the chance to leave days before if they hadn't gone rogue with faust. but the bloodthirsty mercs chose to stay after repeated warnings, and when got in over their heads, asked their enemy to let them retreat after huffing and puffing and dooming thousands to a cold death and looting god knows what for faust. they could have asked to surrender in this mission, but they didn't, because they wanted to be back in the fight on the cascadian mainland. and they have the gall to get mad and swear revenge? would they have done better? check out the part just before the last mission of the main campaign. when presented with peace and victory with the ceasefire, the mercs and cascadians whined and complained they couldnt do more slaughter.
@@FlameQwert I'm sorry did we not play the same game? The Feds started this. The geothermal power plant that powers the factory turning out tanks for the war effort is the same power plant that powers the city, oh well, shouldn't have been supplying tanks to the federation. War is ugly. All the good choices were left behind at the negotiating table. The orders going into the city of presidia were: "exterminate with extreme prejudice" "Whaa, the cascadians in the mercenaries are complaining they don't get to kill more feds at the end of the campaign" yeah it's not like the federation unleashed super nukes that killed tens of thousands of civilians or anything. And in the end they were justified because the feds nuked them again! And don't give me the "Oh crimson one acted alone" no he didn't you can't get 6 nuclear weapons out of an arm's locker by yourself.
