Actually the verse in Numbers in most translations does not refer to miscarriage. Only the New International Version does. You will not find a single translation that references it because most scholars agree that it actually refers to barrenness and has therefor nothing to do with an induced miscarriage but rather infertility.
@@Beverley30333 Because if she is guilty it makes her infertile. It would literally not make any sense for this form of testimony to be applied because not all adulterous women become pregnant. It makes a lot more sense that as punishment she would not be able to bear children anymore.
Well he’s using the NIV, that the NIV the ERV version which is basically a kids Version and it’s not a direct translation, and also the New living translation, which is also not a direct translation and has been heavily criticized.
@@Beverley30333 it was to test if she had been faithful to her husband, and the very next verse says she will conceive children implying that she wasn’t pregnant.
@@Scaramousche1955 Your Creationist crap is meaningless. Look up genetic fallacy. Then come back and try an actual argument or just STFU. She was actually anti-abortion too. So what?
So Cenk taking a verse completely out of context, and using bad hermeneutics and the incorrect translation to show that the Bible supports abortion, is why you think that very interesting. And again it doesn’t matter if they haven’t read the Bible, what’s better somebody who has never read something or somebody who has read something yet can’t comprehend it and takes it out of context, i’ll let you be the judge of that. And the funny thing is most Internet atheists that complain about Christians being dogmatic or biased are just as biased and dogmatic as them if not significantly more.
Look up Leviticus 27:6. God begins to value human life at one month of age. No value for the unborn. The Bible clearly says God commands that we are to care for the poor, the old, the immigrant, legal and illegal. The Bible absolutely does not say anything about banning abortion.
that my dear, contradicts Leviticus 27:6 The Bible is inconsistent. Written by many people for a long time but as time goes by, scriptures go against each other @@kavanroy
For those interested: The "bitter water" is made from the leaves of the Rue plant. This bitter tea or bitter water has chemical properties that provoke or induce a miscarriage/abortion.
No, that’s coming from the NIV version, which has been critique to death by scholars it’s not an accurate translation of this verse, because it uses the Hebrew term, for womb and the Hebrew term for a miscarriage, which can be found nowhere in the original Hebrew for Numbers 5.
This is hard for you, I know. I grew up Christian. Take your time with it. "God is Love", right? So accept this lesson with love, not hate or the proto-typical "demonization" Christians do to non-believers. Is it worth it, shutting down your mind to facilitate Christo-Fascism in America? Serious question...
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming people in order to make them agree with his pro-abortion position. Please watch the RU-vid video: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Really, he is preaching out of the Bible and you're failing to believe him? I'm a Presbyterian Christian, and at the same time I'm Pro Choice and a Progressive.
It's right in your own bible and yet you won't believe your own bible? I have known this for many years. It's true. The claim that life begins at conception is a OPINION given by the Catholic church. Not the bible.
Absolutely! Myself, I was obsessed with the bible at a young age. Actually I was wanting to become a priest. I read the bible cover to cover twice. The more I read it the more I realised I can’t believe in all this anymore. Unfortunately, christians in general, do not read the bible. They just listen to a crazy preacher running back and forth on the stage, flapping his arms around, yelling and speaking gobbledygook language.
@@trashcatlinol really? read a bit more: Deuteronomy 22 - 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
@@CPATuttle I don't disagree that the passage is essentially describing a punishment. It even calls it a curse. If you read the first comment on the video there is a women who explains that women everywhere understand that abortion is terrible. But to better understand your point of view, what really is your point? There are other reasons to have an abortion regardless of what the Bible say in this particular passage.
I've been quoting and referencing Numbers like this for decades in relation to this topic, thank you Cenk, and thank you all who spread this holy message of the lord. On a side note, ever notice Atheists know the Bible better than most? Makes you think that actually reading your holy books might make you think.
Wish more people actually read whatever book they codon to follow. You probably have as much luck changing minds with this scripture as I do: blank stares then word soup to justify not changing.
This is scripture endorsing a forced abortion where the man gets the only say, and only when your wife is impregnated by another man. This isn't what you're advocating dummy. If it is, then based.
@@novitriolhere it works, it's just a delayed effect. Pointing out hypocrisy is always a slow, tedious, and thankless route to changing minds, but sometimes it's the only thing that works. Take those blank stares as a small win and don't give up.
Some versions translate “womb will miscarry” as “she will drop/lose her limb”, but that is because fetuses are considered an appendage of a woman and not a human being.
God supposedly killed everyone in sodom and gomora, and also nearly everyone on the planet with the great flood. Does this mean God condones murder? Well he also said thou shall not kill, so according to the Bible we aren’t supposed to kill each other.
And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. Numbers:5:22
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming his viewers. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
"If a fetus is a person at 6 weeks pregnant, is that when the child support starts? Is that also when you can't deport the mother because she's carrying a US citizen? Can I insure a 6-week fetus and collect if I miscarry? Just figuring if we're going there, we should go all-in" - Carliss Chatman, Law Professor, Washington and Lee University (2019)
Or those that say it starts at conception so does child support start a conception a undocumented immigrant can’t get deported cause “she’s caring a US conceived baby” etc. sadly the collect if I miscarry something women are legit being thrown in jail for a miscarriage or stillbirth like a miscarriage or stillbirth isn’t traumatic enough now she gotta worry about jail time.
The child support is the feeding of the wife from the man The literal biology of the human body and laws can’t really do anything since there in the same place its just a dumb argument laws don’t consider it a person because it get more right when it it’s breathing dosent give the mother reason to commit murder Basically your “arguments” are exuses
@@markcollins2704 You either: A) Didn’t get it because you CHOOSE not to. B) Didn’t actually READ it (illiterate? ADHD?) C) Are too stupid to realize this is sarcasm and is actually insulting to you anti-abortion (“pro-life”? LMFAO!!) fundie nutjob idiots. Hope that helps you maneuver our shared reality better.
Just as pertinent, the same Bible states clearly several times that life exists "from the first breath to the last". Outside those very clear boundaries a person is *not* alive _according to the Bible._
@@johnnaylor8816 oh, it's on! Luke 19:40 : "I tell you," he said, "if they remain silent these (lifeless) stones will cry out. Numbers 22:28 : Then YHWH (whose name is ineffable) opened the *donkey's* mouth and it said to Balaam... Even rocks and donkeys are animated at God's whim. Also, you conveniently forgot to mention that Elizabeth's baby was in the 3rd trimester( over 6 months old) and can breathe on its own if taken out of her. Abortion at that stage is illegal under Roe v Wade.
Thanks for posting. Moral of the story the way I interpreted this is: abortion is actually a punishment. When a woman gets an abortion she’s hurting herself. We as women know it’s not an easy situation.
I don’t take his word at face value actually look this verse up for yourself and look up the original Hebrew that’s being used in the text, he’s a bad faith clown and a disingenuous liar that has zero credibility.
More importantly it's killing. Who comes to Cenk for a Bible study! Vast majority don't translate that to miscarriage, it's to make barren. & in verse 28 it even says she can "...then...conceive seed" which is when life starts.
@@pleaseenteraname1103 Cenk Uygur is definitely wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. You can watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion
Those who claim the passage depicts abortion insert concepts not even hinted at in the text. Part of this confusion stems from the 2011 edition of the NIV, which refers to miscarriage. Pregnancy is not part of the requirement for the ritual. Nor is pregnancy mentioned anywhere in the process. The effects include some type of swelling and/or shriveling. Yet the targeted body part is vague. In fact, it’s the same Hebrew term used to describe the spot where Jacob suffered his infamous injury (Genesis 32:25), as well as the place where Ehud hid his sword (Judges 3:16). At worst, the Numbers 5 passage implies future infertility. The ritual was not a remedy for an unwanted pregnancy-it was a test for adultery. Traditional interpretations of the ritual even restricted it from being performed on pregnant women
I have been quoting numbers to a lot of people for many years. I even quoted it to my father, who happened to be a minister. He scowled at me yes, but he could not deny it. By the way, Adam and Eve who pro-choice as well. They were given the option eternal life or knowledge. They did not choose life.
They were made to choose life, it was predetermined. If God did not want them to eat the apple why did it exist in the center of the garden in the first place? Additionally, why was Satan in the garden? If you get a room put a bowl of candy in the middle of it and put a bunch of children in there and tell em not to eat it what are they going to do? Eat the darn candie. It's that simple. He wanted them to eat the apple it wouldn't have been there otherwise. IMHO, I think he wanted to create perfectly loyal beings and when he found out they weren't loyal he abandoned us to ourselves. Or did he.
I can deny it. That passage does not in any way certify abortion. It is a supernatural judgement ONLY to be used in a trial of adultery. And it would be GOD doing the miscarriage…because regular floor dust doesn’t cause abortion on its own…and ONLY if the women who drinks the dust-water committed adultery. The dust doesn’t know if she cheated on her husband or not.
@@swagraptor5477 The very next verse says she will conceive children implying she was never pregnant to begin with, most translations don’t use the term miscarriage, they say cause her thigh to rot or to shrivel, and the Hebrew term (fécheme) which is the term used for womb in the Masoretic text, and also the NIV is not a direct translation, and also the word Hebrew word for miscarriage is not present here either.
0:05 Only if you have an NIV, which is why it is the ONLY version Cenk ever quotes it from. BTW the NIV was only written in 1973, so every translation before it from the last 2000 years didn't say that a miscariage took place, so no you're dead wrong Cenk.
@@user-xs2qq7kv9w lol. Reading it to know what your talking about would be a start. You're claiming it says something that's not there, because you hate God & His Word.
Since when do Christians actually read the Bible? The best way to create an atheist is to read the Bible. There is also that inconvenient little section sanctioning slavery as ok, with specific instructions on how to handle your slaves.
Christians who are well studied in the bible know that the bible supports a biblical form of slavery very different then modern slavery and we know it's totally moral and way better then the modern prison system.
@@innovationhq8230 since when is owning another human being as property ok in any era? The Bible says its ok to beat your slave, so it couldn't have been that great.
Well…Jesus also said in Matthew 13 that he is going to command his angels to execute every non-Christian when he returns. God is patient…but he is not going to hold back forever.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
@@k8aik8ai Cool. So then this question should be easy for you since YOU’RE the “educated” one: How does one tell the difference between what is indoctrination and what is education? SUPER easy, right? Then go for it, fundie. Can’t wait….. (Psssst….this is a trick question that ACTUAL indoctrinated folks will always fail, so answer ‘wisely’)
@@k8aik8ai Thought so... EVERY fundie on the web is a chicken shit who can't defend your beliefs with even the most cursory arguments. AND YET, you want us all to respect them and allow YOU to determine OUR law? Good luck with that…
@@JesusisliterallyHim WTF are you smoking, fundie? Are you suggesting that because YOU don’t understand how humanity came to be that therefore it must be an ‘illusion’? Isn’t it possible that the Bible is just an ancient book of myths that only CHRISTIANS assign such existential importance to? If the Bible never mentioned germs or any other scientific facts its authors couldn't have known about (but GAWD did!), why revere it so much you doubt your own existence?
Some propose that Numbers 5:11-31 refers to God causing an abortion. The 2011 edition of the NIV mistakenly states that the drink will cause miscarriage in Numbers 5:21-22, 27. However, this is not what the passage is talking about. Pregnancy is nowhere mentioned, or even hinted at, in the text. The only thing that even sounds like pregnancy is the guilty wife’s stomach becoming bloated, but even in that instance, it has nothing to do with pregnancy. Further, the passage does not say that drinking the concoction would cause an abortion/miscarriage. While drinking a poisonous mixture of ingredients could very well cause a miscarriage, that is not what this text is speaking of.
Oh that's nice if you'd only have this same energy and learned about embryology and fetal development you'd figure out a fetus is not a baby! The main difference is that yours is an interpretation vs mine based on facts! 🤡
And the very next verse says she will conceive children implying that she wasn’t pregnant, and Hebrew term that’s used for miscarriage is nowhere in the original Hebrew for this verse ,neither is the Hebrew term for womb.
@@pleaseenteraname1103 oh buddy🤦♂️ I never mentioned anything about when life starts! Plus a life is not a life if it can't survive! So READ before you comment! Also now that you're doing your 1st year biology reading, read something about fetal development and viability! Here's an effing clue it's FETAL LUNG DEVELOPMENT! It's just 5 stages but just read up on them specially the Cannalicular stage! At least you'll learn something today!
@Ron30Mon Haha I didn't even read this until after responding to you. Really glad my "E)" says what it says now. Seriously, you are sick. Religon has made you SICK in the head, bro! I hate being right all the time about you dangerous folks...
The night is black Without a moon The air is thick and still The vigilantes gather on The lonely torchlit hill Features distorted in the flickering light Faces are twisted and grotesque Silent and stern in the sweltering night Mob moves like demons possesed Quiet in conscience, calm in their right Confident their ways are best Ooh, ahh The righteous rise With burning eyes Of hatred and ill-will Madmen fed on fear and lies To beat and burn and kill They say there are strangers who threaten us Our immigrants and infidels They say there is strangeness, too dangerous In our theatres and bookstore shelves Those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves Quick to judge Quick to anger Slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice And fear, walk hand in hand
No, Sir! You have inappropriately misinterpreted the context of this passage. You see, you have a presupposition that Moses is writing about "abortion". This is called "Eisegesis" Which means - to insert ones own ideas rather than the intended meaning. Moses is not talking about the topic of abortion here. Cenk is reading from the NIV and also he is skipping verses which is improper hermeneutics. Although improper lets continue. He asserts that "the priest is causing a misscarriage" but fails to recognize the orginal meaning of the word "miscarry" in verse 21. The word "Womb" in vs 21 is the Hebrew word ירכ (yerekh) which means thigh, loin, side, or base and the word "miscarry" in Hebrew is נפלת(nofelet) which means to fall away.. The ESV and LSB translation renders it better ("your thigh fall away and your body swells"). The usage of the word "miscarry" is probably to aid the 21 century reader to understand that a prevention or a hault if you will (in reference to only a woman) will take place because of her sin. So... it is an inappropriate interpretation when Cenk says "The priest caused her to have a misscarriage" when the passage asserts no such thing. The NIV is a reliable translation but misses the mark here with the word usage. The entire context is about the disciplinary actions when there is lying after commiting infidelity in the marriage which both are in direct disobedience against the LORD. Also, there is no where in the text that implies that conception had taken place after the adultery had taken place. These are warning passages to infidelity in a marriage and the LORD is most certainly not affirming the killing of children in the womb in order to present "abortion" as truth. Cenk is not a Christian according to the Scriptures and he needs to repent according to the Scriptures. He says so himself. I encourage anyone to the read the passage in context and allow the orginal writer to speak. You wouldn't want someone misinterpreting your book(Especially someone who radically disagrees with you from the start) with their biases in mind would you? I pray this would help and if anything sticks I pray it is this "the pursuit of the authors intended meaning should be paramount". God bless.
Many Christians mistranslate and attach meaning to the bible's writing that may or may not be the writer's message all the time. Usually literal because it's the most obvious for even the most simple minded. It doesn't matter to me if Cenk is misinterpreting it for that reason. I also trust the Christian religion the least of all religions along with it's clergy & followers for many reasons that are justified. Many Christians read only what is directed in church at the time rather than reading it themselves in their spare time so if a pastor wants to, they can avoid the text that seemingly contradicts one of the religion's beliefs.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion. God bless!
Cenk Uygur is Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. God is never in favor of abortion. Your statement that "God gives us free will to choose what we do" does not mean that God is pro-choice, & that God is, therefore, okay with pro-choice people who choose to do abortions. Abortion, which is the deliberate killing of innocent & defenseless unborn children, is an evil act that God certainly does not accept as morally right. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
When HE makes your womb miscarry... it says NOTHING ABOUT US ALLOWING OURSELVES TO MISCARRY or Abort. BE CAREFUL WHEN RECITING SCRIPTURE. Nowhere in there does it prove that he approves us to make those decisions for ourselves...
This isn't even a correct translation. The translations before the 70s understand this is talking about being made barren. Amen on still having the correct point. Even in places where God kills it's not like giving man permission to.
Cenk is Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming people in order to make them agree with his pro-abortion position. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Personally, 1) I'm a male from Central Texas who is pro-choice, but I feel that it's ultimately a women's right/decision to take birth control & that Roe V. Wade should remain in effect as it currently is. 2) When it comes to the 1st & 2nd trimester, I don't agree with the argument that the baby is truly alive even with a heartbeat since it also lacks a brain, its lungs, & an immune system, which are needed to keep it alive (& something like this happened to a family member whom I won't mention by name). 3) I was born & raised Christian (specifically Baptist), & in The Bible there is a story in the Book of Numbers where a man believes his wife committed adultery, so he asked God for help & he was told by God to give his wife an elixir that would've aborted the child if it wasn't his, so this story proves that The Bible isn't against abortions. 4) I believe that once a baby is born it should have affordable medical care/coverage for its entire life since I'm pro-life in that regard & not just pro-birth of the baby. 5) I don't believe male politicians should be able to create laws regulating what women can or can't do with their own bodies when that sets a precedent for female politicians to create laws regulating what men can do to theirs.
You sound like Californian. I am in this country for 18 years and still can’t process the fact why the abortion is government affair. I know money is the center of all discussions at the end of the day but there are other many issues that money is spent on. Why abortion is such passionate deal to republicans especially? I have only one answer so far- control. They want to control women. Mechanism of control never succeeds, females will fight.
You actually believe that the “elixir” on its own…made of nothing but dust and water…is able to not just cause an abortion…but ALSO differentiate in the woman’s behavior so that it ONLY causes the miscarriage of the woman committed adultery? No no no. That’s not how things work. This is a supernatural event. The only way this would work if it was by God’s hand. Only God would know that the woman had done the deed…and God himself would have to cause the abortion to happen. The whole process existed as a sign to the people. Everyone would know that dust water would NOT cause a miscarriage by default. And so if the process was followed as ordered and the miscarriage happened…then it would be divine proof that the woman committed adultery. This is a supernatural trial. It is not a green light for abortion.
This mistranslations from the 70s. The others recognize this as making her barren. Read a normal translation & you'll see in verse 28 it's before the seed has been conceived. I thought we should make laws about killing people.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
45 THOUSAND different sects of Christianity (and counting) is powerful evidence for your solid claim. Cheers! However, it's still worth showing them this "receipt".
They don’t have to they can use the correct translation, and many of them well not many but some of them have done their research and they know that the NIV is not accurate translation because, the Hebrew term for womb doesn’t appear anywhere in the original Hebrew for (Numbers 5), and again how does this prove the Bible proportion you know this how it’s being referred to as a curse,and again it’s not even what’s happening the verse has nothing to do with abortion.
It certainly is. And the CONTEXT proves the Bible is pro-abortion. Christians can't seem to say anything except what you say when STUMPED. You've been conned. Wakey, wakey! This time, the Libs OWN YOU!
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk Uygur is not even using the Catholic Bible. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion
Context is important. Without it, one cannot understand the basic written Word or words in general, much less concepts. God is hence merciful as shown in the text read by Cenk (even if he was a bit snarkey during side commentary). ☺️You'll see this mercy (it being obvious if one cares about context) - if not, one will remain blind even to what's clear and obvious...especifically, the text itself. If the aim is not understanding, one cannot be humbled nor much less meek...thus making inheriting the Kingdom quit more difficult. God bless ma peeps! 🙏 ❤️
Your Christianese is cute and folksy, and I'm sure you're a nice person, but you're wrong. "Out of context" is probably THE most common excuse Christian apologists make when they got bupkis. (You’re not the only one who can do “folksy”!) The context is that “GAWD will impart his mighty wrath because your husband OWNS you!” Whatever you think about this, it’s not a modern “moral guide”, it’s an ancient one, when women were like cattle. I get that lots of Christians have trouble being told what your own Holy Book actually says/means by non-believers (or former ones), but you DO realize that this “pro-life” stuff has a fairly well-known origin, politically speaking in America, right? Just as Christians tend not to know what’s in their Bible, they also tend not to know much about RECENT RW history for some reason. Fascinating, isn’t it, Christian camp counselor Steve?
There is also the time he sent an angel to take out the first born sons of Egyptians. Some of those had to be babies, and, by Conservative logic, it is possible to perform an abortion after a baby is born and claim Democrats support that.
How often did God go and hardened Pharao's heart so that he could perform another stunt? See Job, God made a bet with Satan and took his most faithful believer, took away his wealth, killed his livestock, his servants, his family and covered him in sores. Nothing of that Job had deserved, it was just God showing off to Satan.
@@KennyRodgers930 Exodus 9:12; "But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses." Exodus 10:1: "Then the LORD said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these signs of mine among them". Exodus 10:20: "But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not let the Israelites go." Exodus 10:27: "But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he was not willing to let them go." Each time in the verses before Pharaoh told Moses they could go, then came above verses. The LORD is EXPLICITLY mentioned each time. When I see the whole story as that what it is meant and seen by most denominations in most countries, a parable to stress that the Israelites are God's chosen people and to vilify the Israelites' enemies, all is no problem. But when I take the story how hardcore US fundamentalists take it, as LITERALLY correct, then I have to regard the words as they are. Have a look into the Bible, maybe you find other interesting sections that are not quite as the preachers want to make them appear, drop them conveniently while pounding on the literal truth of others.
God is allowed to kill whoever he wants. He owns the universe. It’s only immoral when man kills another man. I don’t understand how you don’t realize that key difference.
Beware of the man who uses God’s name to do his own bidding. Saying “God wants us to do this” or “God wants us to do that”. You could wipe out an entire nation resting on his laurels.
We did enough nation overthrowing under Obama via rebel proxy armies. Was Obama a Christian monarch? I didn’t know. I thought he was IDK: liberation theology and a little quasi-Muslim. GW did his international screw-ups. Both let radical Islam swoop through the areas due to the hole in leadership we left in Iraq or the puppet assisted in, such as the one we got in Egypt (thankfully overthrown by the people) the entertainer with outright NAZIs that moved into the country in question. Biden also opened Afghanistan open to radical Islam.
John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, LQBTQ RACISM - SINS ARE BEING COMMITTED BY THE ""CHILDREN OF GOD"" TO THE CHILDREN OF GOD.
Old testament still counts. “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
@@nikm5628 God is Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient. The Point isn't mine it's directly Scripture. Read the Bible in it's entirety and keep reading it until you grasp the Truth. Christ Is, Was, and Always Will Be, regrardless of how you feel or try to justify yourself. This is evident in Genesis 1:26 ". . . Let US make mankind in OUR image, in OUR likeness. . . ." If you ascribe to the Judeo-Christian Bible. It's clear, if you don't then go your own way. You'll find out when The Day comes. . .
No it does not. It is talking about if a woman cheats on her husband and he gets jealous they make a water to cause her to be Barren and not able to have children and make her curse among her people and causes her thighs to rot. But if she did not cheat and he's jealous then nothing shall happen to her when she drinks the water. This was put upon her if her husband was jealous and she cheated you will cause her to be Baron has nothing to do with no abortion. Please stop spreading lies and misunderstanding and speakin intruths to God's words
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming people in order to make them agree with his pro-abortion position. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
He, being omniscient knew it would happen... How he'd do it. Could have had every creature fade into dust (ie Avenger's) but chose to have them struggle suffer and panic of drowning... What a Kind and Loving God. Technically, since he knew Eve would sin and how he would punish mankind, He is the Greatest Most Vicious Murdering Bastard that (n)ever existed. AND He knew it ALL before He even started.
@@Christopher33312 this is why our family calls it (god) "The spaghetti man in the sky) It's all such BS that rational humans just laugh at "religious scholars". They believe ancient texts written in another language, rewritten and transcribed, translated and then tell me that this is TRUTH, bwahaha!!!! 🤣
Again you’re only about the 700,000th person to say this, first he’s a creator of life so he has the right to take life, and if any unborn babies did die it’s a fault of the parents because I had a chance to repent of their sins orchid on the ark.
Exodus 21:22-23 “And when they strive together men and they injure woman pregnant so that they go out children of her but not he is mortal injury to fine he shall be fined. As he shall place on him husband of the woman and he shall give on judgements. But if harm he is then you shall give life in place of life” (The Hebrew-English Interlinear ESV Old Testament; Literal reading) This passage is about a violent argument between men, where there is a pregnant woman present near them. During this struggle, the woman is somehow “injured” (nâgaph, which can also include fatal injuries), which caused the “children (masculine plural, boys), to “come out” (yâtsâ’) of the woman. It is clear from the Hebrew, that the “mortal injury” is of the children, and not the woman, as we have the masculine, singular, “’âsôn” used, as the ESV rightly reads, “he is”. “’âsôn” is used in the Old Testament for serious, and even fatal injuries. The Hebrew “wə·yā·ṣə·’ū yə·lā·ḏe·hā”, literally, “children come out”, is translated as “to miscarry”, or, “born prematurely”, or “fruit depart”, or “come out”, etc, in our English Versions. The masculine plural, shows that there is more than one boy in the womans womb. In verse 23, “’âsôn” is used to show that either, one, or both of the boys died from the result of the injuries sustained by the woman, during this violent argument between the two men. It is clear, “then you shall give life in place of life”, which is a requirement of death, and not injury. It is clear from verse 23, that if the child, or children, died, which can only mean, “to miscarry”, and not as some English translations read, “she gives birth prematurely”, as in the NASB, as this does not mean that the child or children, did not live. “she has a miscarriage”, is used in these Versions: NAB; NASB 1977; Douay-Rheims Bible; NRSV; Lasma Syriac Bible; The Contemporary Torah, JPS, 2006, etc Abortion in the Bible is MURDER
You think these evangelicals actually care about the bible? Besides, they would just use the argument that this is in the Old Testament and is superseded by the New Testament.
Old vs New... Same God...omniscient, omnipresent omnipotent... No linear time for God, so that argument (which the "new bible Christians" love to use)... Fails the test.
@@Christopher33312 they are not concerned with whether it passes or fails your test, as long as they can use any argument to justify their own beliefs, that’s all they care about.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. Cenk is trying to misinform people to make them agree with Cenk's pro-abortion position. Please watch the RU-vid video: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Also the NIV that he is reading out of has been rewritten over the years. The one I have on my shelf from 1978 in Numbers 5:21, 22 & 24 it doesn’t even use the word miscarriage. It says the abdomen swells and the thigh waste away. So as the others say she is not pregnant. Then he even read verse 28 at the end “she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children. Other current versions uses similar words as my 1978 NIV.
You do realize that this ritual will not work, don't you. A combination of holy water and dust from the temple floor will NOT produce a potion which will figure out if the woman has been unfaithful and punish her if she does. The purpose of the ritual is to set the jealous husband's mind at ease, or may be scare the woman into confessing. But magic potion, NO! The operative words are that the priest will tell her.
False: After she reacts they say "shall enter" twice & the male will show all the same signs. Their face pales, eyes do something, body becomes full of veins.
Cenk, members of the NFIB Church will still deny it all because you didn't read it from the King James Version. But as a recovering Catholic, I say you still nailed every verse!
That is where me and a lot of other people have a problem when they start reading crap and I say what what are you reading out of and they say the King James version and I tell him shut up don't even talk to me stop reading from that because it is SOMEBODY'S VERSION OF WHAT THE BIBLE IS SAYING it is NOT WHAT THE TRUE BIBLE SAID!!!
@@trashcatlinol, what up? Are you hearing Michael Voris's voice in your head, too? Is he trying to make you feel guilty for not condemning your LGBT friends?
@@joyicechase2418, they claim that all versions that came after the KJV are "corrupt". Wrong! At some point, we had to update the vernacular because not everyone can wrap their heads around the Middle English of the Elizabethan and Jacobean Eras.That's all.
If Christians could agree on what the Bible actually states, They would all be Gnostic. Yet they can't even agree on how many books are even in the Bible, 66, 73, or 81! Let alone how to interpret them.
But yet in the Gospels, upon hearing the sound of Mary's voice, the baby in Elizabeth's womb leapt for joy. In Chapter 1 of Jeremiah, God tells Abraham, Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Furthermore, there's a big difference between a miscarriage, which is a tragedy, and an abortion, which is an intentional act of murder.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Exodus 21:22 “If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.” Galatians 3:13 “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:” “Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? “For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's” (1 Cor. 6:19-20) So not my body 🤔
It’s a curse, not an abortion. If she was unfaithful and lied and says she never did, than he puts a curse on her, she shouldn’t have any children do to her lies. It doesn’t say yes to abortion no where in the Bible 🙏
Jesús healed a woman who had been bleeding (guess where from…) for 12 years. In the temple. On the sabbath. Publicly. In front of all the disapproving religious leaders. Jesus was always kind, compassionate to women. Jesus treated them as real people.
@@innovationhq8230 Ezekiel 37:5 Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. (This is just one of the many places it states this)
Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion. Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming people in order to make them agree with his pro-abortion position. (Note: In the video, there is also a rebuttal to your claim that "The Bible is also clear that life begins at first breath, NOT in the womb.")
I see still misrepresenting (Numbers 5), first of all I just love how you’re like read your Bible, yeah why don’t you actually read the very next verse which says she will conceive children implying that she wasn’t pregnant, and again this is an absolutely terrible example even if the term being used what is in fact miscarriage which it’s not, because you’re quoting from the NIV I can tell because of the wording, the NIV is not a direct translation, and also most translations don’t use the term miscarriage, they say cause her thigh to rot or cause, or caused her to be infertile, and I’ve even seen some translations that Psyco has her fighter shrivel, as well. the Hebrew term for womb, (recheim) isn’t in (Numbers 5), at all anywhere in the Mazzarella text, which is the manuscript at the old testament in the book of numbers is based on, this only took me about 12 minutes to figure out, Plus reading the verse, in context unlike you, really professional journalist 100% facts guy Cenk Uygur, couldn’t bother to do12 minutes of research, I mean you made that first video like seven years ago for crying out loud, that’s amazing. It’s not explicit at all, it doesn’t suggest anything even close to what you’re saying, shut your face shut your mouth, you’re an embarrassment you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Yes, I agree with you that Cenk Uygur is definitely wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. I also agree with the explanations stated by Mr. Trent Horn in the RU-vid video: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
So using the context of the passage you just read abortion is only good when the woman steps out on her husband and he wants to abort it. So the woman has no choice in the matter. What if she wants to keep her baby. A bunch of men make that decision for her? Are you sure this is a pro-choice argument to be making here dude?
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming his viewers. Please watch the RU-vid video: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
This is talking about a Woman cheating on her husband, this isn’t about a woman going out of her way to abort a child due to sexual impurity. You’re in a covenant with your husband, and should be loyal and faithful throughout that marriage. Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.” Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever takes a human life shall surely be put to death” Psalm 139:13-16 “For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them” Romans 1:28-32 “And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.” Abortion and Miscarriage are two different things.
Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live, Ecclesiastes 11:5 As you do not know the way the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything
James 2:11 For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. Exodus 23:7 Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and righteous, for I will not acquit the wicked.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. Cenk is trying to misinform people in order to make them agree with his pro-abortion position. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Probably because the actual translation has nothing to do with a miscarriage. Only that the woman loses the ability to have children. There is nothing in that section of verses that say she is pregnant.
It’s embarrassing to use this verse to promote the falsehood of Biblically favored abortion, because it’s not true. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Dwq3Z_z7iNw.html
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
You better be glad most Christians ignore certain parts the Bible, if anyone followed all the rules set forth in the Old Testament and even the new one they would spend the rest of their lives in jail in most civilized countries and get executed in the rest.
@@angryarmadillogaming7863 PFFFT Ahhahahahaa. Explaining excerpts from a book of fiction is supposed to be make a fool out of me?! BAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Trying to rationally discuss the meanings behind a work of fiction with those who hold it to be the One Truth is like talking to a wall, while simultaneously beating your head against it.
Oh it’s far from fiction, it’s all history hidden in code. All ancient biblical texts from the Bible, Quran, Torah, Etc… All correlate with one another in their stories, just with different reasons/explanations. I believe the Bible is closer to the actual historical truth. As more and more scientific discoveries are made, the more some mythical stories in the Bible actually make sense.
@@KennyRodgers930 You should check out this on author... Hubbard... Yeah, L. Ron Hubbard... I think you'd love his work... Or Smith.. Joseph Smith, I hear he was pretty clever too.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming his viewers in order to make them agree with his pro-abortion position. Please watch the RU-vid video: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Also a counter to "abortion is murder": The bible says if you strike a pregnant woman and she dies you are to be executed as a murderer, but if she survives and miscarries you only have to pay financial compensation to the father...
You should read that passage in Exodus again because it says that if the woman gives birth prematurely and no harm is done then he pays at the judge determines BUT if any harm (to the child) follows then he shall give life for life, acknowledging that the child in the womb is a life and ending that life is murder. If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman’s husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23“But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life,
Hell, he aborted the entire word claiming that everyone beside 8 people were wicked (and neither of these 8 people of were either babies or children) as he flooded the world committing one of the largest mass murders in the history of mankind. Make it make sense, SWAY..
@@reezoe164 you must be a right winger because y'all seem to NOT understand the word hypocrisy these day. Let me school you.. When someone tells you something that they don't practice themselves, that's call hypocrisy and it destroys your credibility. So if you're trying to prove to me the existence of someone and they're teachings and as you're trying to do this their teachings start to NOT match up with their actions then the hypocrisy in their actions starts to discredit that they exist at all or that everything else from here on out that they say is true. Why would a God who seeks to be ones spiritual and moral mentor who's trying to save you immortal soul abandon his teachings and start committing the same sins he's supposedly trying to keep you from committing in order to get to heaven? A true God would understand that this moral break in his character would cause disbelief of his existence from those humans who logically think for themselves because at this point you'd have to be brainwashed to dismiss all his sins and continue to follow his teachings that he doesn't follow himself just because he claims to be God. An all powerful God who supportedly created the entire universe and existence of man should NEVER under any circumstances have to commit the hideous acts that this supposed God of love, forgiveness, and compassion did in this Bible. Him and his followers broke a large amount of his 10 commandment throughout the Bible. He broke the very first one on many occasions which was thou shalt NOT kill. He personally committed more sins in the Bible than the devil he tries to discry all thoughout the Bible did. Go reread your Bible and find out the truth and that's this God was not full of supposed light and truth like this Bible claims he was. You can't be committing mass murder one minute and the next minute be claiming that killing people is a sin and then the next minute be justifying the stoning of others for shit like foraging on the sabbath day like he did with Mosses right after he gave him the 10 commandments, with the first rule being thou shalt NOT kill. Now miss me with your nonsense because the Bible is just as full of hypocrites as these churches are these days. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, huh?
@@youngking8666 bruh. I am NOT reading all that. No disrespect to you, my brother, but.....GOD CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS. HE IS THE CREATOR. The f? He literally created the laws and rules of morality. He is not bound by any of them. Get your mind right. And...rightwinger? Lmbao. No. Truth&God winger, yes.
@@reezoe164 OK, why leave the world in such disarray. All that killing he did and support all throughout the Bible accomplished what? All the good he could have done that could have positively changed the trajectory of the world he didn't.
@@youngking8666 you clearly dont understand. First of all YOUR MIND...is not GODS MIND. Nor is your power/strength the same as His either. God didnt leave the world any way. The world is the way it is bc thats the way it is. IF.....you follow God...and love Him the way He loves you, you wont have to worry. This world is not home to anyone that follows God. This world is full of sin...and pain. Get sin out your life and it will improve greatly. It wont be perfect, bc we ALL need to suffer. But....your life will improve greatly. Stop murdering. Stop lying. Stop fornicating. The bible literally gives you the instructions to follow! It dont get much easier than that.
Bible also says that killing a pregnant woman is a bigger crime than killing a non pregnant woman. Pretty sure in most countries its also the case. At least in US i think
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Don't forget Exodus 22:23. "22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life," An unborn child is property, it is not considered life.
@@James1987nh yeah what hermeneutical gymnastics are you doing to come to the conclusion that the child is considered property not life, what🤦♂️, this is just on another level, yes he has to pay a fine for injuring the woman and causing her to give birth prematurely, what the hell is wrong with you, if you hurt somebody and you to pay a fine, what.
this is the 2011 niv verision. the orginal verison didn't even have the word miscarriage, nor did it imply the girl was pregnant. it never said the poison would cause a miscarriage. he clearly didn't do his research.
@@lightmatrix6867 telling someone to find another translation because you don't like what another translation doesn't say much about the reliability of your holy book. The Bible is not a guide to get your morals from no matter the translation. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."
@@osonhouston God said not to change his Word & those did. How's the reliability of my Holy book matter when you're talking about a book I don't read that was made in the 70s? Fyi- punishment for taking a woman by force is death. You're talking about a consensual relationship. Haven't you heard of a "shotgun wedding"?
@@lightmatrix6867 you're delusional read your Bible without bias. Depending on the circumstance yes death is the penalty but so is paying the father and marriage to his daughter.
@@osonhouston Do the research. 90 some percent of Bible's recognize it being made barren. You can't find a translation saying miscarriage before that. For the other crime is not a circumstances issue, they're flat put to death.
*The FED has lost it and the sad fact is, it's pretty obvious we are headed for hyperinflation. I think stores better have tight security because when people can't afford to feed their families, things might get ugly*
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming his viewers. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
You ignorance is shocking. First of all, the babies death is collateral damage if the woman is an adulterer. If not for her sin, the baby would live, it's the woman's fault, not God's. Secondly, even if this verse applied today (which it doesn't under the new covenant of grace), this would only apply to adulterous women, not all women everywhere who wants abortions.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming his viewers. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
No it states the priest will cause a miscarriage, that is STILL an abortion. There are 2 ways to abort currently by taking a pill to miscarry (the concoction the priest gives the pregnant married woman), or surgically but ALL of it is still an abortion.
A miscarriage and an abortion is two different things. A miscarriage is unintentional by the human. And abortion are actions taken by said human to abort the other human being. Let's put some church dust and some holy water in a bottle and see how it works against modern women. But the difference is, according to what he read, the Lord has ordained certain things to be done. Abortions it is the human that has ordained for certain things to be done.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God is pro-abortion. Cenk is trying to misinform people in order for people to agree with Cenk's pro-abortion position. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
@jj ya Even if God was, it's not all willy nilly w/ no regard for actions like these modern females are using it. Rape from a stranger? I'm going to understand, a female might not want to raise that product of violence, but you can also give it away. And I gotta feeling that if men could carry , or did carry the baby, females would tell us don't kill it. Give it away or something else besides killing it. Guaranteed. Females want the government to make men be fathers but they do not want the government to make them be mothers.
Exodus 21:22-23 “Now if people struggle with each other and strike a pregnant woman so that she gives birth prematurely, but there is no injury, the guilty person shall certainly be fined as the woman’s husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life,
@@samspamoli196 & you're still wrong. Notice the other translations don't say that. Also in the next verse it says if she's innocent she can then conceive seed, implying she wasn't pregnant. Nearly all the translations recognize this as being made barren.
So I'm not the most religious person... But I'm not sure the bible says anything about abortion... I know one thing.... IT SAYS THOU SHALT NOT KILL! The fifth commandment forbids direct and intentional killing as gravely sinful.
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming his viewers. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
And to add to that, God gives us free will! The will to make your own decisions, your choice! And if God allows us to live freely, who is the Government to stop others from doing what they will🤷🤦 They are trying overthrow everything that God has already put in place! It's our decision on how we live our life, what decisions we make, because he gave us free will!
Are you OK with killing a newborn? What about the creature 1 minute before giving birth? 2 hours? 1 month? 3 months? Where is the line? Isn't the creature a totally different human from the mother, with a unique DNA, after the moment of conception? Are you OK with killing a human in its most vulnerable state? What about a baby that is not needed by a mother? Is it OK to abandon the kid if she does not want it?
I agree ☝️; why they don’t fight about the gun laws They are a bunch of hypocrite;who keep on killing those innocent babies and innocent people who mind their own business: why do they stock talk nonsense about Abortion;! Supposed to get rape they want you to keep the baby to? This my question to those who keeps fight, this is my Body I do whatever.I am nor or against abortion your body you do whatever you want God bless you.
@@kuba2ve I understand what you're saying, however, you have to understand that even in the Bible that flat-out says that the baby is nothing more than water for the first forty days in the bible, in the Quran it's 120 days the Catholic church is the one that says it's a viable human being at conception not the Bible but it's the church that is ran by old white men that believe women are nothing more than a vessel to give them pleasure and a child and if they don't give him pleasure or a child they're worthless!!! And when I say Bible I mean Bible... I am not talking about the King James version of it, which by the way is not a Bible!!!
If I am or not it's my decision! Who are you to judge? God is my judge, he has the final say. Everyone has sinned, even you. We're you okay with the decision you made to do what you wanted? Yes you did! That's no different from someone choosing to have an abortion! God forgives all, even you! Sweep around your own front door, before trying to sweep around someone else's.... Make sure you have your business right with God, he will be judging you for the things you've done, and you alone😜
The Bible verses were referring to a miscarriage, not a still born, and not an abortion. Therefore, this was a wizardly 0:25 magical play using the elusive play on one word; the word did not even sound the same and meant something differently.
ADD to that exodus 21:22-25 ....... If men chide, and a man smiteth a woman with child, and soothly he maketh the child dead-born, but the woman liveth over that smiting, he shall be subject to the harm (he shall be subject to a fine), as much as the woman’s husband asketh (for), and as the judges deem (appropriate). 23 Soothly if the death of her followeth (And if her death followeth), he shall yield life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burning for burning, wound for wound, sore for sore
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
Does no one find it disturbing that political policies and judicial laws and practices are being not just informed bit dictated by the most "open to interpretation" book in existence? One that many people do not even believe in? I really struggle to understand how America will be able to survive as a positive force for good and represent liberty and freedom if it continues to intertwine religion and nation as one rather than separate entities. It goes to show that anything can happen, anywhere.
@@ericwichmann9536 separation of the state and religion does appear one of the few ways that such past events don't have the power or are at least limited in their reach and strength to repeat such events. The closer the two are combined, the more likely there is for suffering sadly as such things will always be used as justifications for harm even if they are not meant for that purpose
The night is black Without a moon The air is thick and still The vigilantes gather on The lonely torchlit hill Features distorted in the flickering light Faces are twisted and grotesque Silent and stern in the sweltering night Mob moves like demons possesed Quiet in conscience, calm in their right Confident their ways are best Ooh, ahh The righteous rise With burning eyes Of hatred and ill-will Madmen fed on fear and lies To beat and burn and kill They say there are strangers who threaten us Our immigrants and infidels They say there is strangeness, too dangerous In our theatres and bookstore shelves Those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves Quick to judge Quick to anger Slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice And fear, walk hand in hand
Cenk Uygur is definitely Wrong to state that God & the Bible are pro-abortion. Cenk is misinforming his viewers. Please watch on RU-vid: Refuting "The Young Turks" on the Bible and Abortion.
My question is why pro-choice people don’t use this more often. This is only the second time I’ve ever come across this from someone that’s pro-choice even . Should be a major tool in the pro choice tool kit.
