PROOF That Carl Just Imagined Everything in Up | Pixar Film Theory

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Today J dives into the ever expanding world of the Pixar Theory to reveal how a blink and you miss it easter egg in Turning Red confirms an old theory that Carl from Up was just imagining the entire trip to Paradise Falls.
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@redscorner4324 Год назад

In terms of Biology, the small Kevin in Turning Red might be a more common cousin of the big Kevin that Carl and Russell find in South America. It could be because where Kevin lives is so remote, that the large version of her species were able to thrive and other cousins of Kevin that are smaller were more easily found and studied. And it adds further to Muntz's story of finding the giant skeleton and why the scientists claimed that it was fake is because they didn't think that Kevin's species could have ever gotten that large.

@eddie-roo Год назад

Just like Moas and Tinamous and Elephant birds and Kiwis

@theseventhnight Год назад

there are numerous animals both now and in the past who's skeletons would look identical to the untrained eye except for their differing size, Deinonychus and it's larger (Utahrapter) and smaller (Velociraptor) cousins spring to mind as the most comparable example, given birds evolutionary heritage And you are kind of on the right track as far as why they would be difficult to find, a species size is dependent on it's main source of nutrition so if a Kevin's main food source is in abundance it will grow larger and the scarcer the food is the smaller a Kevin will get but it would have to be in such a ridiculous level of abundance to support a sustainable population in such a small remote area so as to remain undiscovered. The sad truth is that the Kevin and it's offspring that we see in Up may be the last vestige of a species on the verge of extinction

@IrkenSean Год назад

It's additionally not far fetched that Teddy Roosevelt would befriend an adventurous child he met on safari. Later in his life TR was suffering from grief at the loss of his son in the war. He was reevaluating his life and self aggrandizing ways that he partially blamed for getting his son killed. Now imagine he meets a precocious young boy with a thirst for adventure. It's not outside the realm of possibility that he would play cards with him at night, playfully cheat, and even gift him the prized trophy of the expedition. For Muntz, if he was so accomplished at 23 he must have started early. Adventuring is also a hobby for the wealthy. So I can easily see a wealthy family using their influence to tag along with a Safari with the ex-president, and bringing their adventure loving son with them.

@scootergsp Год назад

I would suggest that the smaller skeleton could have been a scale model. Seems more practical to have something that size to display in a classroom than a full size version that would touch the ceiling.

@wtr3059 Год назад

Darwin's Rhea (or the lesser Rhea) and the Greater Rhea come to mind specifically when talking about South American flightless birds. Another example is Coyotes and Wolves. On a surface level the two species are extremely similar (and they can interbreed) with a notable distinction in size. The existence of the smaller bird doesn't disprove the existence of the larger

@3pikness159 Год назад

whether this theory is right or not, the details and symbolisms that are being used as evidence prove that UP is an incredible film. the movie was definitely made with carls adventure being the exact one he had dreamed of, and it’s beautiful. whether it really goes on it or not

@josephharrison5639 Год назад

Whether it’s true or not, it’ll always make you cry

@cambry4932 Год назад

It's a really beautiful movie. One of my favorites from Pixar, but let's just admit it, all Pixar movies are top tier.

@chrisalextime94 Год назад

I gotta say a few things #1 maybe the skeleton in Turning Red is another fabricated skeleton designed to fit the building/room, #2 as for the storm complaint, Russel literally said he steered the house towards paradise falls with his GPS, also he’s a wilderness explorer and did you see all of the badges he has, I’d say he’d have what it takes to pull that off #3 as for the amount of balloons, sure there aren’t nearly enough to lift the house, but remember this is a cartoon we’re talking about, and also an even smaller amount of balloons was able to lift the balloon stand and that many balloons can’t lift that and this is when Carl isn’t even imagining, #4 lastly as for Charles, we never see him looking for Kevin, we only see his dogs, it’s possible he never collected any of his previous animals, and the dogs did all of the work for him, that’s why he was so successful. Several months later I just wanted to clarify why I was so defensive about this movie. Not only is this my favorite Pixar film of all time, but the trip is the payoff of the beginning. Carl’s youthful life was full of things he had but was taken away from him. He had a potential child taken away, the adventure with his wife taken away, and his happiness taken away. Then his trip to paradise falls replenishes all of that, it gave the kid he wanted in Russel, it gave him the revelation he never lost the adventure with his wife, and it gave him his happiness with a new world with Russel and Dug. And this theory that none of that happened, ruins the whole payoff, and means Carl always had things taken away from him even though he did nothing wrong.

@9nikola Год назад

#3 The animators said they couldn't animate as many balloons as they wanted, but in-universe it's supposed to be as many balloons as are needed.

@willsafran8855 Год назад

I agree. Plus maybe the skeleton in the classroom was a fake based on the one that was proven to have been fabricated.

@TechWorld1105 Год назад

Also he might not have known that people have found Kevin’s in other parts of the world, also other people probably thought he died after not seeing him for so long

@AnthonySilva35 Год назад

As far as the skeleton goes, if it was proven to be a fake, why would it be in the classroom?

@jaym5602 Год назад

@@AnthonySilva35 the teacher was a fan. But this is just a Film ther...etc

@bladerchick65 Год назад

I always viewed it as carl died in the house and this was his journey to the after life . With Russ being the angel to guide him there And Kevin and Doug are animal guide's. Then the chairs at the end on the cliff symbolise Carl and Ellie being reunited. Kind of like a journey to the land of the dead. Either ancient Egyptian or Greek lore.

@ahsnaps Год назад

This!! This is the only view I will except. Everything else is a no.

@notBrocker Год назад

Doesn't make sense since at the end he is still with the kid eating ice cream. why not be with his wife? doesn't make sense it is real the after life isn't bcs there's no proof

@1stJBGaming Год назад

@bladeechick65 your wrong wherether you like it or not

@AliceAngel_ 10 месяцев назад

@@1stJBGamingIt’s harder for this theory to make sense because he is still alive at the end of the film with Carl. However if he did pass he could have gone back to earth with Russell at the end of the film to get icecream and count the cars passing by. I mean I can believe that because Russell was like a guardian Angel trying to have Carl enter heaven (Paradise Falls) to be with Ellie. Also because Russell is missing his one badge which that badge could also be to get his senior wings to be a head Angel instead of a senior explorer like he says in the film. And come on dude it’s a theory (hence the fact that it’s called A THEORY) it isn’t real 😅

@SonOfDathomire Год назад

I honestly don’t want this theory to be true 😂

@SuperCarlinBrothers Год назад

Even if it is, it just means its a man dealing with his grief which is still great

@julyakacarrie6260 Год назад

@@SuperCarlinBrothers And what about Finding Nemo? There's a theory that says, Nemo never existed, everything was Marlin's imagination.

@StarryEyed0590 Год назад

I really hate this kind of theory. It's so reductive and basically amounts to nitpicking at presumed plot holes. Unlike other kinds of theories, it really adds nothing to the film, but merely tries to take away from it.

@sadhbhcorr942 Год назад

@@julyakacarrie6260 Oh no, I really do not like these kinds of theories because they add nothing to the film itself. Literally nothing. If anything they just make they them sadder and take away from the overall story. For example, I do not like the idea that Carl doesn't get to go to Paradise Falls in the film because it means he never learns to love anyone but his wife. I also don't like the idea of Nemo not existing in the Pixar universe.

@sadhbhcorr942 Год назад

@@SuperCarlinBrothers Seamus Gorman has a great video on this topic and why "inside their head" theories are so dumb. They just have no legs to stand and they don't add anything either.

@marshawargo7238 Год назад

I've been watching & enjoying your channel for a long time. This hypothesis of yours is the first time I wanted to cry! It makes more sense that Carl had a breakdown & you Made me see it, instead of blindly believing!

@Spider-man612 Год назад

Pixar people: adds a comedic line or a fun Easter egg to the script Theorists: oh my god guys this changes everything

@thesillyone3837 Год назад

Kevin model in turning red is definitely a model since rare large bird wouldn't be in a classroom

@InfernalFelidae Год назад

If Kevin was based on the skeleton Muntz found... wouldn't she have had raptor arms like the skeleton instead of wings like she's shown to have?? Wanted to compare it to the classroom skeleton but honestly I can't make out what's there...

@maxsalmon4980 Год назад

I had no idea this was even a question. It always seemed pretty clear to me that the movie from the balloons forward was a fantasy. He left reality behind literally and figuratively, and confronted manifestations of his own insecurities and grief before finally allowing the things that had been holding him back to fall away, leaving him free. And I don't think it's a death story. He DID meet Russell before he flew away after all. Maybe the end of the movie, when he's friends with Russell, is real too.

@dolcethesmorse1890 Год назад

I didn't want to believe it but I think Ellie at the bird exhibit and the colours matching up is what seals the deal.

@MythStarFire Год назад

I always thought .Carl had an accident or something with all the construction going on around him and the trip was a fever dream, brain damage, or him in a coma.

@onlocationkat Год назад

The Roosavelt line can be chalked up to the guy simply making stuff up.

@Starrylyra47 Год назад

I swear you did a theory on this years ago….

@HOLDENPOPE 3 месяца назад

They did, they explicitly state in the video that they're having another go at the theory thanks to Turning Red.

@The_Early_Gamer Год назад

Did you suggest the skeleton is real in that classroom in turning red? Does schools in the US have REAL skeletons on display? Ancient treasures for young children to destroy? xD They're always re-creations, maybe even MINIATURE? Even museums mostly have mounted models made from casts of the actual bones on display while the real fragile stuff is in very protective storage. The most damning evidence that this theory doesn't add up, is that the rest of the movie would be as heartbreaking as the beginning. And that's too much sadness. Let Carl have his real adventure xD

@mwallick Год назад

Russell needs a single badge to finish his Wilderness Exploring - and 22 needs the "spark" to finish their Earth Patch. Maybe Carl is a mentor in the Great Before and Russell is a soul and UP is just how Carl experiences it.

@thesisypheanjournal1271 Год назад

The leopard tortoise issue could be explained by assuming Muntz is not a reliable historian -- he might even have come to believe the stories he told himself during that time alone but for his dogs.

@dguy0386 Год назад

7:27 don't forget that Russell steered the house with his GPS

@carlrood4457 Год назад

Mythbusters once did an experiment to show how many balloons would lift a man in a lawn chair. They needed an airplane hanger. The other problem with lifting the house would be disconnecting it from the foundation, plumbing, electricity, etc.

@mcwright0178 Год назад

If this theory is correct than UP would be ruined for me. The journey and growth of Carl is the key parts of this story to me and if it’s all in his head he didn’t actually grow or learn to cope with Ellie’s death.

@lucaskobi7164 Год назад

So I work with elders and this imagining the whole movie kind of checks out. Maybe Carol never actually never left.

@billiamor2638 Год назад

But this wasn't just Any 8 year old tho was it he clearly is in one of the wealthiest ones back then to be setting out on his own blimp how many 23 year Olds have a blimp?

@isaac_aren Год назад

This is all assuming these movies do indeed take place in the same world, which I know is quite popular here. I believe that the story of Up 100% happens as told within the world Up. Carl goes on to be a good friend and grandfather-figure to Russel (maybe facing some kidnapping charges) and the house actually made it to Paradise Falls. All the evidence as to this being imagined is very intentional symbolism and storytelling for the audience and the audience alone. The exact same way that in Turning Red, the main character is really turning into a massive red panda, but the story to the audience is about the changes a girl experiences growing up

@JoannaEve Год назад

Omg can’t wait to tell my pet cockatiels they are making wrong bird desicions 😝

@beastwriter3915 Год назад

Isn't it possible that the small skeleton is simply a model of the bird skeleton that the biggest explorer of the time historically faked? also, I feel like explorer guilds like that would have strict codes of conduct, that anyone who fakes a scientific discovery would be kicked out regardless of who they are, no special treatment.

@LOH__ Год назад

It wasn’t an accident they ended up where he wanted. Russel used his fancy GPS (beep boop boop beep) to get them to Paradise Falls.

@travissteadman5435 Год назад

You didn't mention that Russell is clearly not on the porch when it initially takes flight. Which is further evidence that it was all imagined, because his mind hadn't figured out that he needed a Russell figure until later.

@karenvickers482 Год назад

In SOUL there's a missing piece of the soul from Heaven that was needed for her to have to be born.

@Night5layer1309 Год назад

Guys LUCA stands for last universal common ancestor. Look it up could be interesting Pixar verse ramifications

@luttara644 Год назад

of course the single defeating point, is that muntz is still a famous explorer and they could have in the interim realized their mistake and officially accepted his findings, despite not finding a living one and It could simply be a replication made of ceramic or plastic based on the lone skeleton he found all that time ago. Not all skeletons in a classroom are real skeletons.

@RareFoodsMarket Год назад

Plot twist: All of the Pixar movies happened inside someone’s head

@magicalraccoon2339 Год назад

Carl has a crazy imagination

@jonathanfranco8547 Год назад

If you're a fan of the word 'dirigible', you'd love Kiki's Delivery Service. They only say it 50 times, though...

@theblackgoatofthewoods Год назад

The birdskeleton is NOT Kevin! That is Poe from Magog! That means that youtuber Magog is part of the Pixar universe!

@MKEme Год назад

How do we know that the skeleton on display in the classroom is really an authentic one? Like you said it is a middle school classroom and supposedly a rare species that was only just recently discovered at all so I would think it makes more sense to be a replica and if so then the legitimacy of the model skeleton doesn't really matter in the least. After all the worst possible situation is that it's a replica of a hoax so not educational but still an amazing decorative piece that serves to ignite curiosity and creativity in the students which is probably the reason why it's on display in the first place.

@cassidyyungbluth4068 Год назад

Are you guys gonna do a Black Adam review?

@Chill1332 Год назад

Methinks you forget how many replica skeletons are in schools. It could easily be a replica of the historical 'hoax' of Charles Muntz. It could just as easily be a kid's history project made out of paper mache. Like they get a historical figure to write a report and do a project for and the kid is just particularly talented. It's a single shot so there is not evidence either fore or against it's being a 'real' skeleton. But the likelihood of A middle school having ANY kind of real, rare bird skeleton is pretty slim. Just to take the opposing argument. 😜

@christiancousineau9662 Год назад

Of course it’s happening inside his head, J. But why does that have to mean it isn’t real?

@sirmultiverse5896 Год назад

Couldn't it be a different brid in turning red that just looks like Kevin?

@shilohmagic7173 Год назад

Memory! Yay!

@coletakahashi5815 Год назад

If he imagined the adventure why would his hero be trying to kill him?

@willsafran8855 Год назад

I like the theory, however maybe the skeleton in the classroom was a fake based on the one that was proven to have been fabricated.

@veronicabrown2328 Год назад

Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real? Dumbledore

@emab3028 Год назад

Wait so then what about Dug Days?

@samsel8731 Год назад

what if the one in the classroom is the fake one and was sized down for convenience

@___i3ambi126 Год назад

I thought the classroom skeleton was a model?

@waterbeargaming9824 Год назад

Don’t the new Up shorts disprove this teorry?

@tomber7411 Год назад

I think the skeleton in the classroom would be the result of all the same type of bones put together from the fake so its just the fake bird put back together again

@kingbranden1369 Год назад

.... or maybe it's just a model flamingo skeleton.

@carter9543 Год назад

Drigible is a cool word

@johnevans5706 Год назад

What about doug days?

@DrPotato0 Год назад

Whos to say the kevin skeleton in the class was real may be its a scale model

@wrestlersmith97 Год назад

Low probability is not proof of impossibility

@candycemonroe7345 Год назад

Nope, nope, nope... I saw Kevin at animal kingdom and he was taller than my husband who is close to 6 feet.

@MJ-98 Год назад

But wouldn't the skeleton in the classroom be a replica? Like the human skeletons in science classrooms. Which would also mean that there has been at least one Kevin discovered in order for there to be a replica of the skeleton. But still.

@MythosMaster1 Год назад

Oddly enough the human skeleton in my classroom in college wasn't a replica. It was a donation by the deceased for study in our radiology class. But I agree the bird was probably a replica, since it would most likely only he real in zoological museums.

@jamieadams2589 Год назад

@@MythosMaster1 in a college sure but it sounds like a hard sell to have an actual skeleton in a room full of middle schoolers

@MythosMaster1 Год назад

Not gonna lie, that's very true

@benwagner5089 Год назад

@@jamieadams2589 Quite true. Would you trust an 8th grader with a real skeleton of a rare bird? That thing would suffer an accident the first Halloween it's on campus.

@theharoldsshow Год назад

In 7th Grade we had an actual human skeleton, the teacher found it in a closet a few years before and we were never really too sure about it. She named it Lucy after the Australopithecus. She told us that once she brought the skeleton home for a Halloween party and started experiencing haunting s and what not. So it stayed in the classroom.

@nickmoney Год назад

The bird in the classroom would be a mass produced item and if it's in a science or history class that covers something like discovered breeds, Charles Muntz is interesting to keep kids engaged. So the model is just to show the 1:18th scale replica version for visual aid.

@locabsgg94 Год назад

I'm not Canadian so I wouldn't know this, but in the USA and its territories we change classrooms for different classes. I would assume that the skeleton is on a math classroom because we see Mai taking math class, and unless that teacher teaches 3 classes (he also teaches Gym) I find it unusual for a skeleton to be in it.

@nickmoney Год назад

@@locabsgg94 I was in middle school in 2002 about her age actually, in US though. There were teachers who taught multiple classes throughout the day, so probably would be similar in Canada as well. A math teacher could easily be doing a biology class as well which would be reasonable. Public schools are underfunded, so won't shock me.

@locabsgg94 Год назад

@@nickmoney guess it could also depend on grade n school, maybe even state. I've gone to public school my whole life n the only times the same teachers taught 2 different classes n or was a different class in the same classroom was when I was in elementary school. Good to know it can also happen in other grades

@nickmoney Год назад

@@locabsgg94 I had science teachers teach math two periods a day and 4 science periods. Then art teachers who doubled as English in middle school. High school, there were even dual subject teachers but not as often, only one that always happened was gym teachers always taught health as well.

@SamVimes27 Год назад

@@locabsgg94 I had a teacher in high school who taught art, german, english, french and geography. In fact, most teachers of the school I went to taught at the very least two different subjects with three or four being quite common. Even my sports teacher also taught math and geography.

@coolnerdlll6053 Год назад

At this point I think Carl is probably the most emotionally relatable Pixar character to date, if not second behind Hector. We all miss you, Ed. Hope you and Ellie are happy together.

@sirfunkalot3404 Год назад

Stop being cringed

@coolnerdlll6053 Год назад

@@sirfunkalot3404 Because I love a movie where the lead actor has since passed away? You must really hate any movie made before 1960.

@AshleysAdvice Год назад

It’s still possible that the balloon did fly, but then crash landed somewhere in the storm, after all, this is the Pixar universe, and it has superheroes and magic, so maybe he did get his house off the ground, but the dream sequence starts after the storm and everything past that point is his imagination!😊

@MrGabeanator Год назад

Wow

@aerithgainsborough7763 Год назад

@@coolnerdlll6053 I'm pretty sure they were meaning the scammer that replied to you

@taylorchesser8990 Год назад

On the question of whether Muntz would have been so easily stripped of his guild rank, I could easily see there being some kind of internal politics at play. He's apparently been showing them all up since before he even hit puberty, of course there would be some bruised egos looking for an opportunity to knock him down a peg.

@jamieadams2589 Год назад

It would've also been a massive scandal because he was so famous. And if people realise that their most famed and successful member was allowed to fabricate skeletons then it would put them all into question

@KingChiggy Год назад

To be fair I dont think most schools by 2002 would have live skeletons in their classrooms. That is probably a replica modeled after it and it could be shrunk down to not take up half of the room, like a small display that they use for teaching about avian bone structure or whatnot.

@baystated Год назад

A bird skeleton in a classroom will only be a plastic model that does not need to be full scale. But aside from that connector cameo, yeah: Carl's adventure is too made-to-order, even for a pixar story. If J had dogs, he'd have also added how Munz would have to keep acquiring his purebred dogs from breeders, because he'd have been left with muts by the time of UP.

@benwagner5089 Год назад

Maybe not mutts, but in-breeding would become an issue all too quickly.

@Trainwheel_Time Год назад

Um.... The dirigible still works. He still needs supplies. You think he stocked up on decades worth of hotdogs before he left? Or would it be more likely that he leaves to get supplies from time to time. Could he also pick up dogs on these trips? Sure.

@danielholman7866 Год назад

Honestly, this is based on the premise that it’s a Kevin skeleton. Look up any flightless bird, they look like that. Kiwi, penguin, dodo. It happened

@codymills2393 Год назад

Facts

@jamieadams2589 Год назад

And that a middle school has a real skeleton just chilling in a classroom

@wtr3059 Год назад

@@jamieadams2589 Your biology classrooms didn't? Mine had skeletons of quite a few animals

@jamieadams2589 Год назад

@@wtr3059 nope. We had animal hearts to dissect and animal skulls to draw in art but dead stuff wasn't regular decor in any of the rooms

@ZUnknownFox Год назад

I think this one might be a little too big of a stretch. 1. That's a classroom skeleton so it'll be smaller and made of plastic. 2. In the scene where the scientists are analyzing the skeleton Munts brought back they were comparing it to an image of that bird this to me implies either they were seeing if it was possible for such a bird to exist or comparing it to a species of that bird that has been discovered and found it didn't match. 3. We see it only takes a small amount of balloons to lift even Carl's balloon stand who's to say they're not filled with a super helium that can lift the house. 4. Even if Carl went into his house fell asleep the night of his hearing and passed out this would mean everything is a dream but what happens if Carl wakes up? and if he's not asleep but rather passed away that's something tradgic but believeable. 5. Russel had a GPS to navigate to paradise falls and by then Carl already told him about where he's going. 6. I don't think Carl would've been asleep nearly as long as it would take to get there after that storm but idk. 7. Russel found the bird. 8. Charles Munts is 90+ year old explorer who has stuff like canine walkers and machines in his blimp to take care of his dogs but the fact he made collars that help them communicate is odd. 9. Carl and Russel return home by the end of the movie however where does Carl live now? (I haven't seen that series about Doug on Disney+ (the one that takes place after up))

@ProfessorPrel Год назад

I agree. While I usally like SCB theories, this feels like the Worst of Matpat theories

@tgbluewolf Год назад

Some of these seem to validate the theory though...? Anyway, I think whether real or imagined, Muntz would've made the communication collars because of loneliness.

@ProfessorPrel Год назад

@@tgbluewolf Which points validates the theory?

@Bacony_Cakes Год назад

Charles might have also discovered more things to put in his airship while trying to find Kevin.

@dguy0386 Год назад

Russel steering the house with his GPS is a big one that he completely overlooked

@lthecatt9667 Год назад

One thing that ought to be noted about the Roosevelt situation. Old people, even those who are still sound of mind, especially the very old ones, tend to mix up memories. It could be he met Roosevelt, and went on safari with someone that cheated at card games. However, it is most likely Carl made it up to process his grief.

@LukeMaps Год назад

Perhaps the 98-year-old Muntz confused and/or exaggerated his story. He'd be even more likely to confuse his memories at such an advanced age. Plus, being a previously idolized figure, Muntz likely was fond of exaggerating. The snipe "Kevin" skeleton was likely faked and made larger than reality.

@sootekken Год назад

Or he could possibly be making that story up to seem more impressive to Carl. That’s what I’ve always thought 🤔

@StarryEyed0590 Год назад

He never says PRESIDENT Roosevelt. Sure, that may be what the audience assumes, because we're familiar with Teddy Roosevelt, but for all we know, he's just talking about another, less famous member of the family, or even a completely unrelated Roosevelt.

@Dadofer1970 Год назад

Most likely it would have been a reference to Eleanor Roosevelt, who was famously into adventure.

@nicholasjohnston1970 Год назад

Or even better. It’s just a different Roosevelt

@rebelbelle1388 Год назад

I always viewed Up as Carl's journey into the afterlife- he died in the house the night before he was going to be taken to the nursing home. Even for a Pixar movie the whole premise was just ridiculously convenient.

@claireannette322 Год назад

"Of course this is happening in your head, [Carl], but why on Earth should that mean that it is not real?" -Dumbledore

@matthewmiller6979 Год назад

Alternative theory; Russell goes to the nursing home to get his 'Help the elderly' badge, he recognizes Carl from the zoo and sees that he is feeling 'really sad' so starts talking to Carl. They start playing a game of 'exploring'. The whole adventure is actually a story Russell made up to help Carl feel better. Which is why we see Carl at the award ceremony at the end.

@kkchloro 8 месяцев назад

that’s such a sweet theory- i’ve always wondered what russells backstory is. we know his parents aren’t very present in his life and i think phyllis may be his sister because she appears quite young and we know she’s not his mom. as a kid i just thought that russell was now carls grandson and they lived happily ever after as a family- but realistically that can’t really happen if russell has existing family/guardians. sure carl could have adopted that grandfatherly roll and become an unofficial part of the family- which i think is likely considering carl needed a friend and russell needed a father figure- but again it is clear russell does have a guardian and a home already. i’m thinking maybe russells parents either passed away or aren’t present in his life due to work, leaving him to be taken care of by a relative, nanny or other appointed guardian. assuming they really did go on an adventure (hey it’s a pixar movie, magic exists) did anyone look for russell at all while he went missing? that makes me more inclined to believe your theory that carl and russell played pretend in a nursing home after carl lost his house. it still begs the question where are russell’s parents and who exactly is phyllis- but i think i can conclude that his relationship with carl is that of a chosen family and he sees carl as a mentor, father figure and friend. this was more of a thought exercise for me after watching the movie than anything from a true theorist. it was fun though! hope there isn’t any truth to carl actually losing his mind and imagining all this- childhood would be ruined lol

@tiny_biscuit 4 месяца назад

Love this 🎉

@PsychoEmerald Год назад

The smaller skeleton I would think is most likely meant to be a replica. Edit: To be clear I still like the theory, this was just my thought process and I thought I'd comment it since J didn't bring it up in the video.

@cultofnatethemagnificent5879 Год назад

Yeah a school teacher wouldn't keep a super rare bird skeleton in a room with school kids

@GubbiGap Год назад

Agreed

@charleslee8313 Год назад

Maybe Muntz got to keep that creature, because Roosevelt lost it to him in a bet. Maybe Muntz is the son of an adventure, and the father and son played cards with Teddy Roosevelt. Dug Days is canon with the movie, right? (the short films on Disney+) If it is, that means that Dug was found among the other dogs that Muntz had at Paradise Falls.

@wolfzend5964 Год назад

Or it could be that by this point Muntz is fabricating stories to wow Carl for information since it would make sense to put on a show to pry information, especially if it was a huge fan of yours. Heck he probably never even met a Roosevelt and just said it because he was inspired by Teddy. We can't believe everything Muntz says, just wonder how far a rabbit hole goes.

@emmagillian2682 Год назад

Okay I’ve had this theory for years and I’m so excited to see someone actually look into it

@SuperCarlinBrothers Год назад

Enjoy!

@fire9895 Год назад

Lookup the theorizer he has done a vid on this

@dottthemovie Год назад

@@ozziefinale5184 That's what I said.

@dottthemovie Год назад

I agree with you.

@camwyn256 Год назад

@@ozziefinale5184 are those shorts canonical?

@angelic_ky Год назад

I don't think you can say that the skeleton in the classroom is suppose to be the same species as Kevin. A lot of skeletons can look similar another. For example an Ostrich and an Emu

@angelic_ky Год назад

Actually a better example might be a Moa compare to an Ostrich or an Emu. I always think of a Moa when I see Kevin

@LF-X Год назад

Franklin Roosevelt was a treasure hunter, he was into the Oak Island hunt before he was confined to a wheelchair

@dguy0386 Год назад

really? he could be the Roosevelt mentioned then!

@mmoney416 Год назад

He was confined to a wheelchair only 2 years after Teddy died. That means the oldest Muntz could be is 10.

@Dadofer1970 Год назад

The "Roosevelt" could very easily have been Eleanor, who did all kinds of active publicity stunts, like flying with Amelia Earhart and the Tuskegee Airmen.

@dguy0386 Год назад

@@Dadofer1970 nah, he wouldn't have used just the last name to refer to her

@Dadofer1970 Год назад

@@dguy0386 The same argument would apply to either of the Presidents, except more so.

@benjiminaaron4586 Год назад

He does not say "president Roosevelt", just "Roosevelt". From Google: "During an expedition to China funded by the Field Museum of Natural History in the 1920s, Kermit and Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (sons of President Theodore Roosevelt) became the first foreigners to shoot a Giant Panda. In 1924, Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. led an expedition to China with his brother Kermit."

@mmoney416 Год назад

But when someone says Roosevelt, it refers to the presidents. Roosevelt Jr., Quentin, Alice, and the others are all referred to by their first names (with the except of Jr.)

@AaronTadman Год назад

I genuinely just think that Muntz is simply just lying. Getting a kick out of someone idolising him and making himself seem more impressive than he really is, hence the faking of the the discovery as well. Kevin being a mother and clearly a more intelligent species of bird than one would grant her on first sight, i’d say the reason she has been so elusive for Muntz yet appears for Carl is that it can sense intentions and who is good and bad, like dogs can do. Just my two cents.

@9nikola Год назад

Alternatively, that school skeleton is just a model of the fake skeleton Muntz showed decades earlier. Maybe they were learning about the history of discoverers or whatever.

@ArtistTics Год назад

Most skeletons like that in class rooms are fake and for display purposes. And with Muntz unveiling that skeleton, they probably just saw that skeleton made fake models of it for display. Do you think they would put a real skeleton in a classroom lol. (And also it’s just an easter egg it doesn’t mean anything.)

@hettyscetty9785 Год назад

A few years ago we went to a Halloween party and my big sister and I gave my grandpa a bow tie and tied balloons onto his stick and dressed him up as Carl. It was kinda freaky how similar they looked. If I could post a pic here I would.

@codymills2393 Год назад

“Would they really have stripped him of his place in the explores guild so easily?“ This coming from someone who’s channel is heavily built off of an author whose name they refuse to even speak… I would say yes he could easily be stripped with standards like that.

@StarryEyed0590 Год назад

Yeah, and explorer internal politics were CUTTHROAT. They absolutely would have torn him down in a flash if they thought he was faking his discoveries.

@blueythelizard4857 Год назад

I know I sound like a broken record, but the skeleton in the classroom is almost most definitely a scaled down model bruh.

@insertclevernamehere1186 Год назад

This is a wild theory to craft with it almost completely being centered around the idea of a middle school having an actual bird skeleton in their classroom and not, say, a scale replica based on either a possible later discovery by explorers who weren't murdered by Muntz or maybe Carl and Russell documented the discovery and Kevin's family was put on the Endangered Species list...

@jacobbailey9773 8 месяцев назад

Well even if it is a replica that means that the bird that he’s looking for in the movie that supposedly hasn’t been proven to exist has been proven to exist years earlier which begs to differ why Charles munts would even still be there also it couldn’t have been Carl and Russell because up is set 7 years after turning red

@daphneopyc7055 Год назад

I mean, the timeline and continuity errors are much better evidence then the skeleton. I doubt a classroom in a Canadian public school would afford a real skeleton of a rare exotic bird. Probably just a scaled down replica.

@ryankennard6626 Год назад

I don’t think you noted the physicality of the film. Carl, an elderly man who needs a lift to traverse the stairs in his own house, can hold his house in extreme wind, pick up and throw his own furniture, and fight off a man who has murdered several professional explorers. On the contrary, it is highly unlikely that Carl’s imagination would create a situation where he and Ellie’s greatest hero is a fraud, a horrible madman, and a murderer. It would be more likely that he would imagine a new villain that he and Muntz would need to team up to overcome, and Carl would be responsible for the vindication of a grateful Muntz. That would realize Ellie’s greatest childhood dream.

@mojo_pohl Год назад

As rare as the Kevin bird seems to be there’s no way they found enough of them to be selling real skeletons to middle schools, even if their population was on the rise. Since it’s almost certainly a reproduction, it isn’t necessarily actual size and could easily have been scaled down for classroom use.

@chelseyaustin6015 Год назад

"pay the math budget" is my favorite inside joke on this channel

@Movie_Blizzard Год назад

Who else thinks Up is the best Pixar film? So underrated

@LincolnT20 Год назад

Fr up and WALL·E are in my top 10 movies

@coolnerdlll6053 Год назад

It's third behind Inside Out and Coco, but they're all close.

@Movie_Blizzard Год назад

@@LincolnT20 I love Wall-E

@SuperCarlinBrothers Год назад

If by underrated you also mean 10/10 then i totally agree

@Movie_Blizzard Год назад

@@SuperCarlinBrothers definitely 10/10!

@justicedunham4088 Год назад

It’s not a blimp! Blimps have soft sides!! It’s a zeppelin!

@SSKwala Год назад

I mean most of the fantasy world stories can be said to be going on in someone's head and not actually happening to them. Especially in animated stuff

@Valandar2 Год назад

More likely: The Kevin in Turning Red is a different species of a different size. Remember, "Science tested the skeleton and proved it to be a fake" is words that also applies to the Platypus. And there are multiple species that are skeletally similar to other species of different size, on first glance.

@ProfessorPrel Год назад

In the flashback you showed, about 20 balloons was enought to lift up a metal cart, so helium might be a lot stronger in the UP universe Also, seeing as the end of the movie Carl showes up at Russels scout meeting, and the crowd react to him, both Russel and Carls history has to be real.

@freddiefranchi330 Год назад

Not if russel was imagined by Carl

@ProfessorPrel Год назад

@@freddiefranchi330 You can litteraly throw away any evidence and just say that «Carl imagined it» if it doesnt fit the theory

@erikagholston6610 Год назад

I think it is all in Carl's mind that is why the story lines up so perfectly.

@Wrendys Год назад

If I may quote Dumbledore: “Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”. Just change Harry to Carl.

@Movie_Blizzard Год назад

Nah.... I actually refuse to believe this

@SuperCarlinBrothers Год назад

THEN EXPLAIN THE 8 year old going on Safari with Teddy Roosevelt!

@Movie_Blizzard Год назад

@@SuperCarlinBrothers 😂 I mean I never thought this was a possibility

@jasondobbin3297 Год назад

@@SuperCarlinBrothers Munz was a massive fraud all the stuff on his ship was fake and the stories were made up, and being a terrible explorer is why he couldn't find kevin who was a rare gigantifed variant of a more common species.

@carlrood4457 Год назад

The problem with this theory is it could apply to ANY story with fantastic elements. Monster's Inc. being Boo's dream rather than real is more believable as well. Toy Story? All in Andy's imagination.

@brickbot2.038 Год назад

The skeleton could be a plastic replica, which would account for the size and school availability. This doesn't counter the other good points you brought up, but it's halfway there.

@itsallme1234 Год назад

Of course it’s all in his head. But why should that mean it isn’t real? Sidebar - here’s a harry potter question that’s been bugging me: why does Ron have Charlie’s old wand? Most wizards seem to keep their original wands (unless they break or the Elder wand is involved) but Charlie apparently got a new one even though his old wand is perfectly functional. Why?

@zachw28 Год назад

Fun theory but one of those times when I think you guys think about it too much

@S.h-comma.to.the.top-Dynasty Год назад

I think one of his dogs names was Roosevelt. The card game thing is a reference to that painting of dogs playing poker.

@pepsimax6671 Год назад

The end of the movie proves it happened , the pictures of carl and russel back in the states.

@pshuang415 Год назад

"Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

@danieloconnell695 Год назад

The one I will argue on, Carl clearly just lives in a world or universe where the physics is different. Unless the part with Elle is also a dream, he is able to lift a balloon cart with only a few dozen balloons. Everything else, pretty convincing though.

@dicyanoacetylene6220 Год назад

This theory. I do not like this theory. It comes from multiple places. The big one is the "It was dream" trope, usually, or at least most notably, used by those who see happiness as a disease and go "life is misery, this character is happy, so how tragic must their actual life be for their head to be this far into the clouds? Perhaps they're in a coma or something." The other thing is that it’s relying on outside information: Turning Red in specific, and the Pixar Theory in general, something that in itself is all just in the heads of those who spout it. Taking threads that are little more than cheky references and not just spinning whole cloth from them, but an entire elaborate tapestry. And I am just burnt out on it. No, just because the makers of Turning Red used that skeleton, it doesn't mean that Carl is going through a mental breakdown or depression escapism. A wooden carving doesn't mean the witch from brave is Boo. And toys aren't alive in Wall-E just because BnL batteries just happen to show up in Toy Story. The Gordian knot was less twisted then the amount the backs of those trying to fit everything Pixar puts out together.