Pros & Cons With The Toro 60V Turfmaster HDX Lawn Mower 

My days of mowing grass are long gone, but I appreciate your no nonsense, tell it like it is, what they don't tell you in the brochure assessment. Well done!

I've got the Recycler and Super Recycler 60V and their fine for the home. I thought of getting that Turfmaster but it's a tad more than I need, although my backyard is big enough that it would be nice to have the wider cut. For the commercial guys, having to transition to battery is going to be tough. I know a lot are using the battery powered hand tools, but to adopt e-mowers is going to require a hell of a lot of batteries. Or, they could run chargers off of their trucks via invertor/generator. But then what's the point of running cleaner mowers if you're just going to replace all that carbon savings with a petrol engine running to charge the batteries? It feels like we need one more advancement in battery tech to get a viable solution for long-term use. Imagine if those 3 batteries could store twice the energy in the same size? I think that would be the game changer.

Thank you Fill for the honest review of this mower! I appreciate the great job you always do. Take care and God Bless! 😊

I am a Solo operator. Small fry guy doing 7 properties a week. I have two Toro V60 mowers 21 inch SR and 22 inch recycler. Have 4 batteries 3 of the 7.5 ah and 1 6.0 ah. The 6.0 ah is having fade issues and only charging to 75 percent. Just ordered a 30 inch gas electric start Time Master from Home Depot. Got it for 1350 going to start using this to offset and save the batteries. Compared to the battery version of the home owner time master daved 1000 bucks and the future cost of the batteries would be 450 each. Thats buys alot of gas. I do love my current electric 60 volt mowers though.

Can't believe you're heading into winter again Fill - heading into summer here in Australia (& they say it'll be a HOT ONE!). You're the king of 'stripes' mate, nice job. Stay well :)

The grass looks like velvet - really nice !

Good analysis and recommendations! I hope Toro sees this and appreciates your efforts!

That thing is way cool. Sweet pickup power on those high lift blades. Good point on that flimsy cover and lack of weather stripping. Not really a commercial worthy rig but for Joe Homeowner that would be sufficient... on a dry day.

Hi Hi. Love your videos and dedication to detail. Thank you for sharing your experiences with mowers. God bless you for the work you do.

Maybe for Medical facilities or for housing projects where it is nice to have a more quiet surrounding and the option to charge the batteries during using the second pack. But for lawn services in the road that’s not an option - yet.

Good video, Fill. Very informative

Even as a homeowner I just can’t switch to battery lawnmowers Tools yes but mowers not yet I’m sure in time they will be better but even then I think I would break out my scissors jk Price Runtime Longevity of battery (s) Sounds a lot like the battery cars I’ll stick to my gas guzzling maintenance requirements of my gas mowers. I like too working on my equipment even though I’ll be 70 soon Good video thanks for confirming what I suspected

Interesting video & good info. Thank you. 👍🏼

One good thing about it it does give good stripes that is a plus

Love your videos Fill. God bless👍💚

I have seen with the Timemaster that people have switched blades like you did and lost a little on the battery. They come with a hybrid blade of sorts to help with blade speed and battery power.

Good job and God bless you and your family 🙏

I think you hit it spot on. There is a niche for these type of mowers, and that’s fine, but for commercial use on larger properties they would not be an optimal choice.

Great info and great job on the straightness of your lines. Tru pro :)

Thanks for the review

I could see myself using it as a homeowner. The fact that it comes with the three 10ah batteries makes it a perfect match with Toro's full size snow blower. It looked like the front wheels were still turning while they were off the ground. Is it all wheel drive?

Batteries like those need airflow to keep cool. If they get too warm, they will shut off. By sealing the top with weatherstripping, you run the risk of no or lesser cooling and even lesser run times in warmer weather.

I love you honesty when it comes to buying equipment to doing lawn care with industrial mowers compared to others you have tried. We all need to reduce our carbon footprint if we don't our generations ahead of us are going to suffer the consequences of our actions. Its always advisable to use batteries where possible but sometimes when you have many lawns you have to take care of sometimes there are more economical alternatives I would like to get a zero turn for the 11 acres i am about to take on, but a Kubota tractor mower gets the job done and i don't have enough extension cord to do it any other way for my electric push mower. or my weed wacker. Great job though. See you in the next video Fill. Is your name actually Fill? i just thought i would ask. Take care stay safe and God Bless you too.

Great video. Thanks.

Good for a homeowner with a big yard but not for commercial use.

Cuts pretty good. I've thought about getting a battery mower just for my yard

I really appreciate the review! I was considering getting the timemaster 60 volt but the run time just isn’t worth the return on investment for commercial use.

Batteries are SO expensive, to buy a lot of them is no a real option

Glad I watched this video. The only way I would be able to get it up ramps into my pick up, is with the blades running...

Good looking grass!

That is a nice battery mower it’s like the turfmaster gas that you used to use last year

Thanks for the info!! I started my lawn biz 7 years ago but now my city is forcing me to switch to electric. They gave me a $25,000 grant to help with the cost but I have researched for months and I just feel like electric is not the answer. I think electric blowers and trimmers are great but I would rather pay extra for lawnmowers to have emissions stuff on them so we can keep using our gas mowers. They could put a catalytic converter on lawnmowers and they would cost probably $600 more but I don't care as long as we can keep our gas mowers. Cut quality of electric is complete shit, not a professional cut!

Nice review Phill..

Nice video. What kw rating is the mower? I have the 21" proline 60V at 2kw and it's just enough power, also has a regular gearbox so you need blade going to engage the drive. Looked like you had it in boost mode, that and high lift blades will drain battery, higher the blade sail the more drag it creates and drains battery, probably why it came with flat blades, but no good at collection. I reckon bigger batteries are coming for Toro and electronic gearboxes. Keep up the good work, hello from England.

I’m guessing the reason the self propel doesn’t operate w/o the blades on this one is because it still uses a pulley / belt drive from the electric motor shaft, same as the gas ones. Some of the smaller electric mowers, like the echo 56v I use, have an electric motor that turns the self propel independent from the blade, so you can engage that and have the mower go along without the blades if you want. I think the batt powered stuff is great for edgers / trimmers, but still has a ways to go for big backpack blowers and mowers. The only reason that echo mower works for me is I only push mow a couple of small backyards per week, and one small subdivision w 6 cookie cutter small yards. It does great for that but I wouldn’t ever attempt to run it as a main mower for 8-12 full lawns a day.

I swear the demo I used at the dealer allowed me to transport it without the blades spinning. Maybe I didnt have coffee yet that day.

I’m wondering where did you get the high lift blades from?

That lawn mower is so cool. I prefer gas though. Question though,how do you edit your videos if you film on your phone

It's amazing how much quieter battery is over gas. Is the performance compreable to each other?

Good knowledge to know, love you much. Afriend.

Fill, I have to agree with you.

Thanks Fill!!!!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

You’ll need an on the go charging solution if you want to run all battery. Been at it for 3+ years all battery with a LiFePO4 on the go charging solution. I’ve also found that you don’t really need “commercial” grade equipment. E we run the Toro Super Recycler 60v and it’s much easier to operate than the commercial units.

Interesting for sure!

How many batteries you have to use in order for it to work ?

I fully support the ev recvolutiom it’s about time gas got outta here and ev took the spot light

what feedback did u get from Torro after the review?

Nice job

Do your customers ask you to bag, or is that just personal? This is my second year in business and I’ve never bagged a property

how was the mow quality

Yes same here wheelies 😊

would like to see that mower in the heavy stuff

I have this mower ❤ I can do up to 13 to 14 a day I have 20 of the 10ah batteries no problem with me it's call everyone save your money

Nice Good joob brow

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40 mins and 2 bars left with the high lift blades isnt bad. Compared to the price of a 42"+ toro revolution mowers these things are cheap even with spare set of batteries. They could work on the price of those batteries, at $449 each thats quite a bit. It would be nice to have a plug in to charge the batteries while they are still in the mower.

Such a nice grass, looks like velvet 🤭

You need to have a solar power in closed trailer to keep your batteries charged up if you use it commercial mowing.

Everyone does a review on toro battery mowers but wat you dont talk about is the cost of each battery so in the long run gas much cheaper to run n your electric bill wont be sky high

That was a large yard in my opinion to test. Doesn't seem like many folks would have that size yard.

That is a nice looking cut that it does. Too bad it doesn't have a drive without blades

I run a timemaster for my business and there is no way I would buy the new battery 30 inch offerings from Toro with no blade brake. It’s a crazy oversight from the petrol machines.

Battery equipment is best for the diy space. Unless you want to invest in several batteries, gas is still makes the most sense for commercial applications

Nice JOBS Fill Looks Good

Battery life in lawn equipment is a work in progress. But it's the future. Especially with the cost of gas and maintenance of the gas mower. Great video. Love your videos. I have Battery in all my lawn equipment. Take care and be bless 🙌 🙏.

In my opinion this would be to costly. I will assume some of the batteries will not last a season being charged and used 5 days a week

That top is probably like that so the heat from the batteries and motor can escape to stay cool

The gas one yes you can drive with out the blades off I don't know why the one doesn't

Hey Fill go ahead and send me that mower. Lol

Try a OSO 21 inch before I buy.

I’ll stick to the trusted gas unit. Transport without blades on a 30 is very important.

Gas only for me.

Hi yes that mower cut pretty nicely but I been moving for a while as well as repairing mowers and I will for ever insist on gas powered equipment because it would be way too expensive to buy enough batteries to make it through a work day let alone a on the go charging system to change all those batteries. This electric crap needs to advance a long long way before it's even some what practical.

Theses things should be charging the batterys while its running... its mad why its not happening.. but then again they make alot of money from battery sales

450$ for a single 10ah battery makes this a no for me

Don’t forget your gloves 🧤

Battery technology will not make it far unless that next gen battery works out in by 2035. 3 times more power for the space and recharges 3 times faster. That’s the only way it’s going to work well that and actually building a few reactors in every state. Would hate to be in one of the states like California when they shut down the charging. I bet the low lift blades were to increase runtime by creating less wind resistance.

Good vid but since you are not going to use the mower you can send it to me ill pick it up....👍👍

Put a lock on the battery cover. 300 bucks each. Ouch!

The Greenworks 30" commercial mower uses (3) 8ah batteries. Does about 2 1/2 yards per battery. All 3 batteries about 7 1/2 yards. Lot size about 60x100. Battery savings is what I CAN" brag about. Oh, .....the power, the cut, and use of the bag are ALL very good too. The unit though is one heavy piece of equipment and the maneuverability is difficult. You feel like your fighting it at times. It has wheel motors and no transmission. The toro has a transmission which can allow for variable speeds and allow for better maneuverability. Another thing is if you need parts, say for example blades, you have to contact the dealer and he will order them (since he doesnt stock them). And then you will have to b pay not only for the blades but $25 for shipping. And I dont know of a dealer in the area that stocks mowers or parts. Calling Greenworks customer service is atrocious. Sooooo, I feel that the Battery mower situation still has a ways to go.

I will stick with my 30 inch gas TimeMaster. :)

Yes unfortunately petrol mowers with drive on them have to have blades engaged to move to that's all you get here in UK

We call it a sump

Well my ego would have gone that entire 2 lawns with just the 1 7.5ah battery. It's only a 21 inch with only one blade so thats a big difference. I would assume each blade has its own motor so your running 2 motors so yeah its gonna eat battery.

Or make the batteries a lot cheaper to buy

Toro couldn’t do a blade brake clutch on a electric mower that cost 2k?

I try to stay away from large battery tools. Aside from the chance of catching on fire, I don't like the idea of kids being forced to dig the materials to make the batteries. But that's just me!

I fix all these problems by having the gas one .

$2800.00 for mower plua $450 for each extra battery. 12 batteries times $450 = $5400 plus cost of mower $2800 = $8,200.00 but hey no oil change or gas. Ha Ha Ha Not for most of us. Oh add tax.

Battery disposal and the minerals they require in the manufacturing process are also long term considerations for the environment

That's the problem batteries need to many of them and to expensive no way for commercial landscapers

I can't imagine they meant that as a commercial machine. I spend way more than an hour mowing. It did a beautiful job though. Quiet, too, as compared. But I can keep mine engaged without the blades, which is very good because by the time I'm done mowing, I'm pooped!

I think toro purposely didn’t want the blades to shut off while you walk with it so you can wait another year or two until they fix that problem and continue buying or using the gas versions. I am very disappointed with them! 3 10AH batteries and only 1 charger…how the hack are all the batteries going to be ready for the next day, no one is going to set an alarm clock every hour to switch batteries. I have 2 toro 30’ timemasters for my landscaping business. I am going to wait until they fix the blades to shut off. That’s a safety issue

I was amazed at your foot prints in the lawn . I didnt like it. But i enjoyed your review of it .

take it of max lol

You will never sell me on electric for lawn care and landscaping.

Gasoline forever bro

Rhett

Just attach a charger to the engine of your truck.

For 2.8K, the flimsy cover with no rubber seal = unacceptable to me, personally...