PROTO-SLAVIC LANGUAGE 

Slavs got separared the last among European nations + very few natural borders like mountains

But still you can't say you can understand Modern Slavic languages, besides your neighbour ones. But when it comes to especially Bulgarian and Macedonian it will be pretty much a super challenge to understand mainly because of the grammar.

The slavic languages didn’t change but slavs became enemy

That's simple because the guy who pronounced this is probably Polish and made lots of sounds alongisde not pronouncing ь and ъ as the actual vowels that they were.

I only know English and Spanish but quite a bit was understandable, maybe 30%.

Dokładnie, moim ojczystym językiem jest polski, a rosyjskim władam płynnie, bardzo wiele z tego rozumiem. Myślałem że języki słowiańskie będą bardziej się różnić od proto_Slavic.

@@jaros9656 Też tak myślałem, ale widać Andy nas zaskoczył

At some point language designers were like "it's already utterly incomprehensible to anyone who didn't grow up in slavic enviroment. we should really quit before they catch on"

@@jaros9656Да я тебя и на польском много понимаю.

It is also important to note that only Polish has retained the a and ę sounds in Proto-Slavic, and I'm pretty sure the person pronouncing is Polish. The way he says 'to' sounds very Polish to me

cyka blyat

Shhh, don't tell this to ukrainians or their world is going to blow up 🤫

All this words are almost the same in Polish today

Same as Czech. Old Church Slavonic is even a little bit easier.

Same here as a Serb speaker.

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Skill issue

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Kaixo ni Kroaziako naiz bainan ni ere badakit euskara

As a polish-czech guy i understood 70 % ....

To nie sú slová pôvodného slovanského jazyka. Prosím uvedomte si, že to video je výmysel súčasnosti. Je to iba mix slov zo súčasných slovanských jazykov, ale ani vedci nevedia ako ľudia hovorili v minulosti.

Me too, such an easy language that was to listen and understand! Not much has changed over those centuries, just the pronunciation evolved a little bit. That's just my subjective opinion

As a Native English speak from America. I understood or recognized a lot of the words starting at 1:57 I'm actively learning Russian self-taught. It's crazy how many words have remained relatively similar after so many years.

Wdym? Only Poland kept letters such as ę and ą

@@Maria_Nizhny_Novgoroddefo doesntsound like russian

😂😂😂

That's the same for any inter Slavic language understanding. As a Russian I understand any other Slavic language without having to learn any of them, however they all sound like they have a very thick accent, that you have to adjust to in order to decipher it. After you understand how the accent of each language works then you will just treat it as your own language ( in my case Russian) but with a very thick accent. Kind of like American English and Irish English.

😂🤝🏼🇷🇸

wzajemnie :-]

Slavic languages developed the least compared to Latin, Romance, Celtic languages from their ancestor. No wonder why Interslavic is also easy for you to understand, even if you haven't studied it. However Slavic languages had different influences from history, makes them more challenging to understand.

@@HeroManNick132 Yes, for me, native Czech speaker, this Late-Proto-Slavic is way more understandable, then for example current Russian, Ukrainian or Bulgarian and I guess it is the same for all Slavs. Root of each word is basically in such a clean form, without any outside influences, so it is more understandable for all of us.

Где ты на своем диалекте то говоришь и применяешь его?😂😂😂

thats what i thought, there is no way i could understand it that well

Yeah, all those unpronounced yers... Interesting video and all but I felt the pronunciations lacked something over all.

I was thinking of mentioning that. I'm not academic in any sense of the word, but his pronunciation is either having the influence of his native language (sounds like Polish) or a reconstruction of an specific late common Slavic dialect. The ъ and ь not being pronounced, but only palatalizing the previous consonant; as well as the height of his yats seemed incorrect.

Yep, the speaker is wholly unprepared for the video and speaks with a very heavy Polish accent. The yers are supposed to be pronounced fully, the yat (ê) is supposed to be æ, not je, the rz in more is simply absurd as well.

@@ivaylostoyanov2515 ''rz'' е трябвало да бъде ''рь'' (меко р).

Makes sense

Can you point similarities that you noticed? Iam really curious

@@bartspongebob9879 Proto-Slavic -> Sanskrit dъva -> dvi trьje -> tri četyre -> catur pętь -> pañca šestь -> ṣaṭ sedmь -> sapta osmь -> aṣṭa desętь -> dasa Words: bratrъ -> bhraata dъťi -> duhitṛ mati -> mātṛ sestra -> svasā vьdova -> vidhávā когда?-> kada?

​​@@bartspongebob9879All of them are both in Indo-European tree. It like that's why you have alot of similar words in all like "three" - "tri" - "drei" - "trzy" - "tres" -"tin".... Or "two" - "dva" - "zvei" - "do" etc. Keep in mind that all of them are said similarly with small small changes because of time and ppl tendency to make new stuff

​@@bartspongebob9879Most fun connection for me is English "Druid" (person conected with nature) and Slavic "Drěvo" (tree) and "Drěvny" (ancient)

Polish people are the real Aryan!!!

@@citylidamj8898 where does this statement come from? if you want to look for the descendants of ancient Aryans, you will find them in Iran, northern India, Kashmir, Awghanistan, Tajikistan. The Aryans were an Indo-Iranian people, and Poles are an Indo-European people

​@@citylidamj8898Aryans are Tajiks and Pashtuns, etc.

​@@citylidamj8898Aryans are only descendants of the Andronovo culture

True Aryans are light brown mate@@citylidamj8898

Even more than Interslavic?

@@HeroManNick132 Maybe equally like interslavic

Because it's Proto-Slavic with Polish phonetics.

As a Russian I would have understood Belorusian a little bit better than that.

​@@joshualieberman1059are you sure about that? Because the closest to Belarusian is Ukrainian with 86% shared lexicon, they are mutually understandable. And russians (I mean your common russian, not linguistic nerd with exposure, those will understand most of it ofc) are notoriously bad with Ukrainian

You wouldn't, 3000 years ago proto slavic would be much more similiar to baltic languages.

3000 years ago it was balto slavic and this language had little to nothing to do with slavic languages

Serbian / srpski jezik : 1- jedan/један 2- dva/два 3- tri/три 4- četri/четри 5- pet/пет 6- šest/шест 7- sedam/седам 8- osam/осам 9- devet/девет 10- deset/дест

@@djordjestojanovic9616 Хаха, откога Вук Караджич е решил ''J'' да бъде буква от кирилицата? 🤣

@@djordjestojanovic9616 it's almost similar to Croatian, of course both languages are Yugoslavic languages

@@TakeyoTouda Serbian, Croatian are the same language. It's like calling American English and British English 2 different languages. If Americans say ''soccer'' and Brits - ''footbal'' it's the same deal here. Serbs say ''фудбал/fudbal'' while Croats say ''nogomet'' like same difference. And the grammar also slightly differ between British and American English. And if Americans write ''color'' and Brits ''colour'' the same difference can be seen. Like Serbs say ''где/gde'' while Croats say ''gdje'' (Same things but of course politics and religion had to come in separation.) I get it that Serbs use both Cyrillic and Latin alphabet, while Croats only Latin (due to religious differences) just like Indians and Pakistani people, who speak Hindi and Urdu.

@@HeroManNick132 i know Croatia & Serbia were part of the same country reason why both languages have same vocabularies, phonemes, spelling. Croatian & Serbian Latin spelling are not different. Such as 🇭🇷Hrvatski〜🇷🇸Хрватски, 🇭🇷Srpski〜🇷🇸Српски. Difference between Hrvatski & Српски(Srpski) is the same as compare Urdu & Hindi, Norwegian & Danish.

Iraq is part of the Arabian region

shout out to all Proto Slavs out there

@@ibrohimh9976 yes but iraq is also mesopotamia 🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶 our arab ancestors conquered our mesopotamian ancestors lol

​@@MahmurdSaharaThe term Mesopotamia is of Hellenic origin

​@@MahmurdSaharaIraq and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and others are in the same region

hello, I like your profile picture about the Occidental language

only if you read it. Otherwise you defo wpuldnt have

¿do U mean Semitic languages?

Proto-Hellenic* not Greek

​@@barbar5822 Proto-Hellenic is also called Proto-Greek

It's propably because Slavs stayed in their ancestral homeland for much longer, while germanics started to migrate much earlier

It's mostly because Slavs stayed confined to the Polesian swampy shithole for over 1000 years since the language and the culture broke from proto-balto-slavic one. They stayed there somewhat isolated, their culture and language developing on their own, and going totally under the radar for over a goddamn millenium, not appearing in any historical records, being the total backwater of the european continent. Then, approximately in the sixth century they had spread from their homeland to huge areas of Europe, only later becoming civilized by Nordic people (Kievan Rus) and some random merchands (Samon's state, he was a Frankish merchant that formed the first Slavic state, which dissolved as soon as he died because the Slavs, being a hopelessly tribal society, couldn't form the states of their own by that time). So, the Slavic languages didn't really have that much time to differentiate from each other, as even ~ as late as the 10th century AD the language is still believed to have been one language with local dialects. They did however evolve significantly in that time. Polish language (my native language) has had some weird-ass phonetic shifts (so much so that I was making jokes from those weird changes with Ukrainians and Belarussians). And Bulgarian and Macedonian languages have mosty lost the case system (which is normally VERY complex in Slavic languages, they are heavili inflected languages), and also developing something akin to the definite article (which is totally nonexistent in other Slavic languages), but preserving the aorist, unlike other Slavic languages. So yeah, give some 500 more years, and the Slavic languages will become as different from each other as, for example, Germanic languages are now. They are still somewhat similar only because they used to be one language fairly recently. And, as a Slav myself, I can say that this undeniable similarity and familiarity between Slavic languages, but with some marked differences, is an unending source of running jokes in modern Slavic societies. There's this meme with three Spidermans and a caption "Poles, Czechs and Slovaks finding each other's languages funny", which is a great illustration of that effect.

Because it's Proto-Slavic with Polish phonetics.

Согласен, но носовые гласные портят слух

Хотя басню "овца и кони " я не разобрал

Касаемо палатализации, кстати, подобное можно проследить также в Древненовгородском диалекте.

​​@@orangetv3tgl144Интересно, что в западномлавянских языках слово цветок до сих пор звучит как квет, квят. А в лехитских языках звезда начинается с буквы "г" гвязда в польском, без палатализации

I'm a bit surprised that reconstructed sea is a western slavic sounding "moře" and not something like "morje"

The guy read 80 % of words wrong. The ř in moře in Proto Slavic is not pronounced as in Czech or Polish, but as a palatilized r, even softer than rj. He is obviously not familiar with Proto Slavic way of writing and phonetics. He also did not read ь as a short i and ъ as a short u, at the end of words he often simply left them out.

​@@TheTytan007ř in Proto- Slavic represents a different sound then in Czech or Polish!! This dude just read it wrong.

Yeah, that's fascinating! It's undeniably partly due to all of those languages evolving from the Proto-Indo-European language, but also due to the influences from Iranic languages (like Sarmatian and Scithian). The Slavic homeland was fairly close to the steppe area, and so there must've been a contact between the groups, peaceful or not

Vladolf Putler doesn't agree with you on conflicts between Slavs...

@@TheOlgaSasha Нажаль я на своєму досвіді дізнався що він не підтримує таку позицію.

@@jizhachok Я теж...

⁠​⁠@@TheOlgaSashaChina-led East and US-led West don't agree*

@ Both of you are correct, Putin's a bad guy but the war is ideologically driven by the west.

ну ладно уж, не каждое

Ну если вы москвич, который элементарно не владеет культурой русской языка, то вам непонятно будет. А человеку с сибирских краев знакомым с речью его предков чалдонов-старожилов - всё будет внятно. А кто не может понять элементарный русский язык на котором говорили наши предки, тот вырусь какая-то, если элементарные архаизмы своей речи не внимает. @@anoninko

Polish is not the only one that has them. Kashubian too, which also has Y and schwa sound which doesn't exist in Polish (well Polish has Y but no schwa sound, which many Slavic languages lack of this sound.)

​@@HeroManNick132one of Slovenian dialects has nasal vowels too

@@user-lb4lm9zq6d Well, even Bulgarian at Northern Greece dialects. I'm talking about Standard languages not dialects.

As a native Polish speaker, I love our nasal vowels, but I respect your opinion :")

@@anonymousofwonderland4850 I love Poland and Polish culture! Slavic brothers ✊

No (no pun intended)

South Slavic languages: 🇧🇬: Като междуславянин (очевидно говоря на междуславянски, полски, беларуски и руски) все е много разумливо. Kato mežduslavjanin (očevidno govorja na mežduslavjanski, polski, belaruski i ruski) vse e mnogo razumlivo. 🇲🇰: Како Меѓусловен (очевидно говорам на меѓусловенски, полски, белоруски и руски) сѐ е многу разбирливо. Kako Meǵusloven (očevidno govoram na meǵuslovenski, polski, beloruski i ruski) sѐ e mnogu razbirlivo. 🇷🇸: Као Међусловен (очигледно говорим на међусловенски, пољски, белоруски и руски) све jе веома разумљиво. Kao Međusloven (očigledno govorim na međuslovenski, poljski, beloruski i ruski) sve je veoma razumljivo. 🇭🇷: Kao Međuslaven (očigledno govorim na međuslavenski, poljski, bjeloruski i ruski) sve je veoma razumljivo. Као Међуславен (очигледно говорим на међуславенски, пољски, бjелоруски и руски) све jе веома разумљиво. 🇧🇦: Kao Međusloven (očigledno govorim na međuslovenski, poljski, bjeloruski i ruski) sve je veoma razumljivo. Као Међусловен (очигледно говорим на међусловенски, пољски, бjелоруски и руски) све jе веома разумљиво. 🇸🇮: Kot Medslovan (očitno govorim na medslovanski, poljski, beloruski in ruski) je vse zelo razumljivo. Кот Медслован (очитно говорим на медсловански, пољски, белоруски ин руски) jе все зело разумљиво. (I added Cyrillic to some Non-Cyrillic just to balance them) so which one is most understandable? :D

⁠​⁠@@HeroManNick132ok, if I had to choose one, surprisingly for me Bulgarian is the most understandable south Slavic language 😂😅

@ I'm actually surprised that you said Bulgarian, when it was hardest to understand :D

@@HeroManNick132maybe because I've read Bulgarian words that you wrote are almost 100% the same as Interslavic 🥲

@ Actually these words present on video 92% - 95% sounds almost as modern Russian

Hi I’m from austrian empire, Croatia

Belarusian, Rusyn and Southern Russian dialects have this thing as G turns into fricative H sound. Polish also has it but nowadays H/CH became the same sound because people can't distinguish both sounds. And South Slavic languages lack of this sound + Y like Czech and Slovak, which they've kept the letter but lost the sound of it.

I speak Polish and in my dialect some words starting with k change to ch (h). Który = Chtóry Kto = Chto

@@unbeatable_all So ''chto'' is basically exactly like the Ukrainian, Belarusian ''хто'' But unlike Ukrainian, Belarusian, Rusyn, Czech and Slovak, Polish pronounces ''h'' and ''ch'' as ''х'' (like the South Slavic languages). H in these languages is a fricative H that is written like ''г'' like for example the Belarusian ''гарбата'' (harbata), which in Polish would be like herbata - ''хербата'' (since there is no difference between h and ch).

There's my hypothesis, but it's only that, I'm not a professional linguist with the expertise in Slavic languages, a little disclaimer. In my unprofessional guess. From my observations, the /g/ sound fricativised to /ɣ/ in many Slavic languages (East Slavic, Czech, and possibly in some other Slavic languages as well). In Czech and Ukrainian languages, /ɣ/ later turned into the voiced glottal fricative. And here begins the part I'm most uncertain about, so keep that with a grain of salt (I would love to ask a proper expert in the area this question). In older forms of Russian, the /ɣ/ and /x/ sounds turned to /g/. The /ɣ/ soung came back to /g/, and /x/ maybe because of some hypercorrection, maybe because of some Old Church Slavonic influences. Maybe there was a period when /x/ ang /ɣ/ have merged, I just don't know. This is only my not so educated guess, if someone knows better then please, correct me if whatever I'm saying is BS. I would be glad to get some knowledge from someone who's actually qualified in this area of expertise

How do you say it modern Serbian? I thought this was universal to all Slavic languages.

@@chepushila1 Kosa

Kaže se jošuvek "vlas kose"

@@gambalombo U tom kontekstu da- generalno arhaičan izraz

@@gambalombo da. ali ko jos kaze ‘vlasi’ umesto kosa?

*ognь :)

because both Hindi & Farsi are in Indo-European language family, some same words in both languages make a connection to other language in same language family.

@@TheStraightEdger 😭😭😭

There are No similarities who do you say that?🙄

Hindi & Slavic are in satem group (where 100-"sto"), so in this context Slavic is closer to hindi/Sanskrit than to Latin / English.

According to Wiktionary it's not a loanword

Slavic Luna is not a loanword from Latin, it is rather a common word with Latin.

So you can speak basically Serbo-Croatian.

There are types of constructed languages: International auxiliary languages - Esperanto, Lidepla, lnterlingua Zonal auxiliary languages - Interslavic, Neolatino Philosophical languages - Toki Pona, Ro, aUI You can choose any type of constructed language and you can even set your own rules on grammar, pronunciation, alphabet, grammatical features. You can have words originating from other languages and then maybe mix or change them a bit. I may not be a professional linguist but hope that helps.

@ thank you! This help me a little

Ну может в праславянском произносилось именно так

@@user-go1jy3wn3x Нет, потому что согласный носовой [ŋ] должен был оставить следы и в других славянских языках.

@@AndreyPokidov ну, носовых гласных вообще ни в одном славянском языке не осталось, кроме польского.

@@alblgz Дело не в том, что осталось или не осталось носовых гласных, дело в том, что если бы после носовой гласной был бы носовой согласный [ŋ], то в таком количестве слявянских языков и диалектов этот согласный должен был найти какое-то отражение не только в польском.

It's barely attested except some names for plants

An Italian would've understood 0% of Proto-Italic.

Работа! 👍

а что ты именно не понял? я понял всё.

Kashubian has ą but not ę

Because Polish has preserved those nasal sounds (although not exactly), most other Slavic languages lost them many centuries ago.

@@HeroManNick132 Czech is the same, although ą is pronounced very softly and spelled like 'ou'. Like Mouka, for example.

@@Badookum The Polish ą is different depending of the word. But it's kinda similar yes, because it was supposed to be a nasal sound. Ou reminds me more of ꙋ from Old Bulgarian alphabet. But that's more like the Polish ó

​@@watchmakerfulDa. Zato mi se poljski sviđa i zanimljiv je.

mexican≠chicanx though

well, "chervonets" got his name from golden coin issued by early Soviet government which valued around 10 banknote rubles.

Я где-то слышал такое мнение, что раньше все славяне говорили на русском языке, именно на русском, таком как он есть сейчас либо, не на языке Руси

@@user-hq7kw3dl7h Не слушай больше фриков и выкинь эту чушь из головы.

@@TheStraightEdger Да я не верю в этот бред. Просто часто таких чудиков в интернете начал встречать, особенно если дело доходит до польского, английского или тем более украинского языка

All of these language are related.

Вие откъде сте между другото? :D

It’s because the person who reads it is most likely a Pole, the nasalisation present in protoslavic also gives this vibe

так это ненастоящий праслав, тут редуцированных (ъ, ь) нету, хотя на видео отображены

It literally sounds like a combination of Polish and Croatian

A čto s medžuslovjanskym? Pozdrav tobě.