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Provoked: Jeff Durbin vs an Atheist 

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Watch this newest episode of Apologia Studios' newest production called "Provoked". ON this episode, we engage with a man who is an Atheist. Pastor Jeff and the crew challenge and interact with him on his beliefs. Truly informative and powerful things here. We hope it blesses you. Show someone!
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@williesipu9594
@williesipu9594 4 года назад
Warning to atheists:when Jeff mentions “I say this with love and respect....”, it means you are about to get your ass handed to you in a Godly way.
@123warwickplace5
@123warwickplace5 2 года назад
That sounds very "godly" of you. I prefer to not worship an imaginery friend who you call Jeebus who according to you drowned / starved and burnt around 12.5 million kids in the old testament
@jcjamlig
@jcjamlig 2 года назад
lol
@jeffreyarnold2929
@jeffreyarnold2929 2 года назад
Oh you got that right.
@nativeatheist6422
@nativeatheist6422 2 года назад
No, it means he's about to lie his ass off.
@robertknight3354
@robertknight3354 2 года назад
@@nativeatheist6422 hahaha. You just watched (presumably) a video where Jeff Durbin takes the legs off of your baseless worldview and reveals the absurdity of the faith you live by as an atheist......and your reply is that its a lie? Hahah. Uddy I don't mean to laugh AT you but I remember the days when I myself was that foolish. Luckily for us God saves sinners. Not good people.
@19richtw66
@19richtw66 Год назад
49 years after giving birth to me, my mother found me. I met her for 2 days before she died of cancer. At 15, in 1965, she refused to abort me even knowing that she had to give me away. I love her for that courage! On the day she found me, I gained 4 more sisters, 2 more brothers and 47 nieces and nephews. I am blessed. I challenge anyone to find one person in my family who thinks I should have been aborted.
@HomeOverTheRoad
@HomeOverTheRoad Год назад
I shed tears reading this...
@alphonsemele6493
@alphonsemele6493 Год назад
Wow
@anthonyputney7626
@anthonyputney7626 Год назад
Wow!! Amazing beautiful testimony. Share your story to all you come into contact with!! God Bless you and your family!!
@ServantofGod17
@ServantofGod17 Год назад
God Bless You 🙏
@Sola_Scriptura_1.618
@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 Год назад
God bless you and your mother! Solus in Scriptura!
@Emeticful
@Emeticful 4 года назад
Dude on the left is terrific in condensing these arguments, doesn't over complicate or over explain and seems super aware of the words he is using.
@Cosigner22
@Cosigner22 4 года назад
He has a fantastic voice too.
@clearjr1
@clearjr1 4 года назад
I don't think he understood a lot of what Quinn said because near the end he said he wanted to discuss issues in part 2 that Quinn already explained to them. As for the girl, "I don't want to sound condescending but I feel sorry for you" is an extremely sarcastic comment. Durbin doesn't present arguments; he presents assertions as proofs and his 'evidence' is the ancient scripture, which is basically stories.
@tarahclubb4243
@tarahclubb4243 3 года назад
@@clearjr1 well Jeff is using presuppositional apologetics. Which assumes there is no morality apart from the God of the Bible. So it seems like he doesn’t answer the refute but he does based on his presupposition
@TheJpep2424
@TheJpep2424 2 года назад
@@tarahclubb4243 There is no morality apart from God. Only subjective opinions.
@ixhilkalaskiiver792
@ixhilkalaskiiver792 2 года назад
@@TheJpep2424 prove it, or kindly stfu, you've done enough damage already, I'm sure.
@hannahlarucci8201
@hannahlarucci8201 4 года назад
He just talked about how cannibalism is okay and then says how slavery isn't... ? Crazy the lengths people go to in order to create some sort of moral compass. Really, really sad.
@Pbs-xs4xk
@Pbs-xs4xk 4 года назад
Hey 😏
@nativeatheist6422
@nativeatheist6422 4 года назад
The buy-bull condones both cannibalism and slavery. Haha
@SailingSeignior
@SailingSeignior 4 года назад
Do you think slavery is immoral?
@stealthvirus1462
@stealthvirus1462 4 года назад
He did reference cannibalism in terms of requiring it for sustenance and survival, not for game or preference of food.
@stealthvirus1462
@stealthvirus1462 4 года назад
@@nativeatheist6422 Exactly. Strange they won't address it.
@Reeseballin8
@Reeseballin8 4 года назад
“Jeff vs Atheist” I’m telling you guys I cannot click faster.
@spiritualrearmament3266
@spiritualrearmament3266 4 года назад
Does not compute.
@Tecom38415
@Tecom38415 3 года назад
Do you get off to this shit? Lmao Sus
@KoreaYear
@KoreaYear 4 года назад
"it doesn't need to be physically attached to someone in order to survive" [conjoined twins have entered the chat]
@CEOofSleep
@CEOofSleep 4 года назад
You mean has left 😂
@RS54321
@RS54321 Год назад
Excellent point!!
@danielk9409
@danielk9409 4 года назад
“I got a black belt in taekwondo” Ohh cool what type, Ahhh I don’t know 🤣😂 Come on bro u ain’t gotta lie 2 kick it, There was no argument here
@jasontodd6816
@jasontodd6816 3 года назад
In his defense, I too have a black belt in Taekwondo chung do kwan that I earned at age 13, but I literally have no idea what type of forms we did. 😂 there are some who take martial arts super seriously, and then others (like me) who did it as an after school thing. I have a black belt, but not so sure I ever truly deserved it. 😬
@Heatherrenee424
@Heatherrenee424 3 года назад
@@jasontodd6816 same here! I was a kid and did make it to black belt but i have no memory of the forms or their titles lol
@blairenoel
@blairenoel 4 года назад
If you ever want to feel loved and respected as a person, pick an argument with Jeff Durbin.
@Chirhopher
@Chirhopher 4 года назад
True. Shouldn't We, of SOVEREIGN GRACE all be such and moreso!?) Btw, the more Ya do it, the easier giving Grace gets!
@joshburt1822
@joshburt1822 4 года назад
I love this 😂
@LifeLover2020
@LifeLover2020 4 года назад
Lolol the irony in this 🙈😂
@Chirhopher
@Chirhopher 4 года назад
@@LifeLover2020 in Your comment?
@LifeLover2020
@LifeLover2020 4 года назад
ChîRhôpher Lazarus Pastor jeff is one of the most condescending pastors I’ve come across lol He tries so hard to make you believe he comes from a place of love and understanding, yet in his eyes and tone, he knows inside that’s the last thing he’s trying to do. He must have had quite the childhood to hold this much anger in him.
@jamespboykin
@jamespboykin 4 года назад
When we say killing and eating another human is" not that bad" That's a dangerous spot to be in.
@adelalax3553
@adelalax3553 4 года назад
James Boykin specially if you are the one being eaten 🥶🥶🤣🤣
@Alex-wi1mx
@Alex-wi1mx 4 года назад
Killing, sure, but what's so wrong with eating? They won't mind
@adelalax3553
@adelalax3553 4 года назад
Noooo! No killing and no eating!!! That's horrible
@fuzzycounsellor9147
@fuzzycounsellor9147 4 года назад
Roman catholic priest do it all the time.
@adelalax3553
@adelalax3553 4 года назад
@@fuzzycounsellor9147 you need to have facts to back up that claim! Not that I'm for catholic priest but that's harsh!
@YouKnowIhadToDoItToEm
@YouKnowIhadToDoItToEm 4 года назад
I feel bad for this guy. Getting repeatedly nuked from orbit has to hurt
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 года назад
Lol 😝
@jbonzai7777
@jbonzai7777 4 года назад
Hahaha
@infidelhardcore7881
@infidelhardcore7881 4 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@haroldbailey9011
@haroldbailey9011 4 года назад
You know I had To do it to em Eh, I don’t look at it as a gotcha thing. The guy is just espousing what he’s been fed with his whole life. Plus I don’t think he feels he got nuked lol. Hopefully he comes back on and eventually sees the insanity of his circular reasoning and ultimately Jesus saves him
@nikokapanen82
@nikokapanen82 4 года назад
He wasnt repeatedly nuked from the orbit, he was pulled towards it. He was pulled towards planet logic from outer space.
@Kyle-vb3fz
@Kyle-vb3fz 4 года назад
Jeff wasn’t buying that the guy was in fact a black belt in taekwondo.
@areyoutheregoditsmedave
@areyoutheregoditsmedave 4 года назад
A black belt in taekwando is like having a doctorate in feminist literature.
@paulp1450
@paulp1450 4 года назад
@@areyoutheregoditsmedave Ouch...
@HLZBORO738
@HLZBORO738 4 года назад
U can see his eyes light up when he was explaining it lol
@khalilfreeman7194
@khalilfreeman7194 4 года назад
Idk anything about Taekwondo and even I could tell he was bullshitting😂😂😂
@lukemcinerny8220
@lukemcinerny8220 4 года назад
Indeed what you really need is to learn is aikido lol
@yukonjack8103
@yukonjack8103 4 года назад
Quentin, if it was your loved one being cannibalized...would the act of the cannibals be immoral?
@reeyynnaa
@reeyynnaa 3 года назад
I was asking the same as I watched
@codeblood2000
@codeblood2000 2 года назад
Long as they do it swiftly I think he would be okay with it
@forscience9977
@forscience9977 2 года назад
Let him face a man that wants to kill and eat him and I'm sure he would sing a different tune
@RS54321
@RS54321 Год назад
That would depend on the latitude and longitude, apparently.
@TheWakeUpChannel
@TheWakeUpChannel 4 года назад
Quentin just couldn't or wouldn't accept He was arguing from absurdity and continued to dig in deeper.
@HS-zk5nn
@HS-zk5nn 3 года назад
"um" "like" "you know"
@jelly7310
@jelly7310 4 года назад
How can anyone know if that baby ,that is being pulled apart , doesn't feel pain?
@williambecker5811
@williambecker5811 4 года назад
It's this thing that religious people always continue deny called science.
@Nicole-ky7ye
@Nicole-ky7ye 4 года назад
I they did find out that the baby does in fact feel pain by at least 20 weeks. Could be sooner idk if they told the truth on how soon part. Or if it would even make the whole abortion thing worse but some states let you kill a baby up do 9 months. Heartbreaking.
@ezbody
@ezbody 3 года назад
@@Nicole-ky7ye If only you actually cared for the real babies as you pretend to care for the unborn fetuses, because the Republican Party told you so.
@Nicole-ky7ye
@Nicole-ky7ye 3 года назад
@@ezbody what?
@boskosimic1719
@boskosimic1719 3 года назад
@@williambecker5811 but your ancestors we rocks mixed with some rain and now you’re talking about science? 🧐
@systemrevolt7309
@systemrevolt7309 4 года назад
I honestly cannot believe my ears. I know the worldview when consistent leads you were he is, but I have never heard that it is okay to kill and eat other human beings. Even from atheist. This is a darkened mind that has been raised with common grace in society, but he has given up the logos. His logic and reason has been abandoned as a result of trying to abandon God. It’s very shocking to say the least.
@Harpazo_to_Yeshua
@Harpazo_to_Yeshua 2 года назад
Pride is what makes them finally have to break the barrier of admitting aloud what they've always thought inside, and we hear it in part in this video here. The caller, knowing that he had to remain consistent, finally admitted that morals to atheists are subjective, not objective. Most atheists refuse to speak aloud what is consistent with atheism (lunacy) because they know that most of society will react in shock and disgust. Atheists do not truly speak their minds so they're not basically kicked out of society. Subjective morality is a huge danger to the body of civilized society. It will grow like a cancer in the body, and eventually the body will die. Atheists are basically "free radicals" in the body of civilized society. I don't mean to bash people who are atheists but, rather, their mindset is the "free radical" that is dangerous to society. We hope to change their minds so they stop damaging society.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 года назад
Wish they do this more often . Maybe once a week lol 😁
@harrystine4116
@harrystine4116 4 года назад
You should encourage them to do so. As a rule, presup stuff only survives because it has not yet received the scrutiny it deserves. It’s vagueness and doublespeak hasn’t yet been parsed out to reveal the real questions that it conceals. If it did, it would lead many atheists to the truth which is even farther away from Abrahamism than they are already.
@justincuvelier9569
@justincuvelier9569 Год назад
Or not at all, because Jesus didn't waste his time on religious or Unbelievers. See his commands to the disciples as he sent them to the village and cities in Matthew 10.
@mikhail5457
@mikhail5457 4 года назад
You don’t have to have a strong theological background to debate this guy. His argumentation is weak.
@GonzaReformado
@GonzaReformado 4 года назад
That kid came off very moronic to me. Jeff had a lot of patience with him.
@ds29912
@ds29912 4 года назад
In my unrepentant acting out sin in my life the only argument that changed anything was the declaration to me of the gospel of Christ. We can argue all day with these people but if the gospel is not spoken there will be no change. Our argument s will be true but unnefective if not first made on the foundation and declairation of the words of life.
@BScott7220
@BScott7220 4 года назад
It's not that his argument, such as it was, was weak. It's that he's too afraid of falling into Durbin's 'traps,' when he should have stood his ground, and owned his position: there is no objective morality. And if there were the last place you'd find it is in one particular religion. Durbin has no leg to stand on either, he's just much more eloquent about it.
@BidenSUCKSS
@BidenSUCKSS 3 года назад
@@BScott7220 Morality is objective because morals come from God, we are made in the image of God and therefore we inherited the understanding what morals are. Every human knows right from wrong because we are made in the image of God, not because we've developed some rules to live by as society. Behind every creation is a designer! Think about it and think about it deep!
@sarahd5341
@sarahd5341 3 года назад
@@BScott7220 Durbin has the unchanging, infallible Word of God to stand on. It answers & explains every conundrum we have in life. The atheistic worldview has no leg to stand on & constantly steals from the Christian worldview.
@firstcloudwalker
@firstcloudwalker 4 года назад
I'm feeling grumpy-- this convo is like talking to my 8 year old stubborn headstrong daughter, you ask one thing, she will argue completely different one, using too many unnecessary words, which gets me tired mentally. But at least, I can say ,because I said so, to her 🙃
@XxViktorijaxX
@XxViktorijaxX 4 года назад
Exactly how I've been feeling the entire time watching this
@Apostle734
@Apostle734 2 года назад
How about because God said so? That we glorify God by loving Him and doing what He commands. And He commands that children honor their mother and father
@parkplaceproperties4818
@parkplaceproperties4818 Год назад
Why are you arguing with an 8yr old?😂
@anthonywchavez
@anthonywchavez 4 года назад
Jeff really said “meat machines” that gets me every time
@robertknight3354
@robertknight3354 3 года назад
Hahahahhaha. Me too.
@robertknight3354
@robertknight3354 3 года назад
No. We are not meat machines. I mean......only in the sense that when I'm in a restaurant and I get that first amazing whiff of delicious burning beef. Seasoned lovely angus....then you could say I'm a sort of "meat machine".
@godschild2432
@godschild2432 4 года назад
Hope he gets saved. Holy Spirit speak to his heart open his eyes may the gospel of salvation and the witness of Jesus become real to him. Amen
@j.d.auwerda4795
@j.d.auwerda4795 4 года назад
@@basp-ef7jx Do you know what any individual gets saved from? They are saved from God's wrath. And whether you believe in him or not, which I suspect you're an atheist yourself. You're under his wrath and just judgment for sin. I can break the law and face the judge and say. "I don't believe in you " all I want. That's not going to stop him from throwing the law at me and paying my fine. In the same way, that is where every man is headed
@carnivorebear6582
@carnivorebear6582 4 года назад
@@basp-ef7jx may I ask how you believe life came about? Thanks.
@donniebrasco7243
@donniebrasco7243 4 года назад
@Oucast American which god out of the thousands should we choose genius?
@michaelanderson4849
@michaelanderson4849 4 года назад
So this guy being "saved" is dependent upon this holy spirit influencing him? If that is the case why have that spirit not done it already? Why doen't that spirit just make one collective call to all people at once? 🤔
@spiritualrearmament3266
@spiritualrearmament3266 4 года назад
@@basp-ef7jx Your first sentence needs another verb.
@jamietownsend3677
@jamietownsend3677 4 года назад
The foolish man built his house upon the sand.
@hannahlarucci8201
@hannahlarucci8201 4 года назад
@Ford Prefect it's a metaphor dude, relax lol. Things that are eternal take precedence over the material. The Sheik may be wealthy in material possessions, but he isn't rich towards God and that's what really matters.
@covenantfue66
@covenantfue66 4 года назад
I worry about Quentin. I got scared when he said that it was ok to hunt and kill other humans.
@RS54321
@RS54321 Год назад
I'm sure he'd have a quick change of heart if he became the hunted.
@jackuber7358
@jackuber7358 4 года назад
It makes me weep that there was a time when I agreed with this young troubled and confused man. The question that must be answered, "by what standard?" There is no higher standard than God's standard--clearly outlined and stipulated without equivocation in His pure, inerrant, complete, sufficient, and transcendent Word.
@AaronEddieHYo
@AaronEddieHYo 2 года назад
What are you saying?
@ixhilkalaskiiver792
@ixhilkalaskiiver792 2 года назад
Drunk ramblings of a miserable life. the cries of actual suffering, bearing his chains of woe gladly, it's what he would prefer than to see reality. I'd happily pluck these flowers from his chain, not so that he would bear the chain without consolation, but so that he might cast off that chain, and cull the living flower. Read a book once in a while, you guys, geeeeez. ;P
@angru_arches
@angru_arches 2 года назад
@@AaronEddieHYo read slowly 😄
@jeremykoerperich4779
@jeremykoerperich4779 2 года назад
God has some pretty low standards then cuz he is not above murdering children and allowing date rape and incest
@RS54321
@RS54321 Год назад
What changed your mind/heart about God?
@nogravegonnaholdmedown4280
@nogravegonnaholdmedown4280 4 года назад
I believe he might have a black belt in the art of self contradiction..
@GloryBeToGodForever
@GloryBeToGodForever 4 года назад
@Mark Lujan Very funny brother. Blessings from Los Angeles.
@torontoash45
@torontoash45 4 года назад
self contradiction? wh en was he contradicting himself? He wasn`t .. Maybe you are being Bias
@doublehockeystix
@doublehockeystix 3 года назад
@@torontoash45 he contradicted himself many times, were you not listening? maybe your bias has put a muzzle on your hearing. he claimed that hunting innocent humans can be morally good. yet he claimed that torturing them would be morally bad. being hunted is torture. he was sacrificing honesty for consistency. and being intellectually dishonest is the same thing as being contradictory. limiting existence to matter and energy and yet being morally outraged at literally anything; is a contradiction.
@CyrodiilicKhajiit
@CyrodiilicKhajiit 3 года назад
@@doublehockeystix We talkin about Jeff or the Athiest? I haven't finished the video yet.
@robinrobyn1714
@robinrobyn1714 3 года назад
@@torontoash45 When was Quentin contradicting himself?- From the second he started speaking.
@metallicbaldwin
@metallicbaldwin 4 года назад
I hope i continue to develop as a human being until i draw my last breath
@cruelbritannia4056
@cruelbritannia4056 4 года назад
Professing themselves to be wise they were as fools. At the end he said he’s no different to a baboon, if he’s no different to a baboon why then should his opinions be taken seriously?
@sweetdovecitrine
@sweetdovecitrine 4 года назад
Hes saying you're no different than a baboon either, so if we go by that logic you shouldn't be taken seriously, and neither should Jeff. Y'all a bunch of baboons!
@richardjohnson6140
@richardjohnson6140 4 года назад
Desiree Hansen then there is no point in having debates since everything is relative . Atheists shouldn’t even have debates because their argument is self refuting
@BornOnThursday
@BornOnThursday 3 года назад
@@taripar4967 What *others think* has an impact on them in society.
@BornOnThursday
@BornOnThursday 3 года назад
@@taripar4967 I, personally, debate because I enjoy philosophy and the challenge presented by opposing views and opinions. There is no obligation other than my own pursuits. I was raised in a society, so first I learned their laws and of their morals. Then, I formed my own early opinions. I sought information and began citing a lot of my opinions, making adjustments here and there, over and over, and I continue to make those adjustments to this day. I've also watched a lot of other debates, learning how people argue, and what tricks are used to confuse or manipulate others as I hoped to avoid falling for them. Throughout time, religion has stood in the way when those who pondered the universe asked questions. It placed limits on what we could _do and say._ It fearmongered and turned _man against man._ It isolated people from those they loved and cared about if they were _different._ It is a journey to deconstruct life and then try to reconstruct it as something new again and again as your learn more and more, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
@BornOnThursday
@BornOnThursday 3 года назад
@@taripar4967 We as humans have a trait referred to as empathy. It is stronger for some and weaker for others. Even in a society with a majority of one group, an empathetic society would consider the minority. Thanks to the invention of written language, part of our history was recorded. In that record, we read of the atrocities committed by man. Progress was slow, traditions as well as superstition prevented exploration and discovery. We were ruled by the stronger force, thus leaving the more peaceful or unable to the mercy of the more militant. People sought change, some succeeded and some failed. We now sit where we are today. Philosophy is a topic anyone can discuss without being a scholar, and the minority has a way of speaking louder than ever before. Our modern laws allow for more safety in expressing opinions not shared by the majority, and more now are listening to the minority as an equal to the majority. Athiests, despite not commonly following a religious text to guide them, seek to understand and change the law of the land to better suit the people in it. The end goal is for everyone to have human rights and to identify what exactly those human rights should be. We have lived, making decisions, doing what we "thought" was _right and wrong_ before we knew our makeup, before we knew the distance to the sun, the vastness of space, and despite the huge revelation, we continued to live as we have. Religions used to explain what we didn't know, and now it hides in the gaps we haven't filled. No one stole ideas from your religion, your religion claimed the ideas of humanity and made them "divine", and said no man could be moral without them.
@timehmke812
@timehmke812 3 года назад
Jeff is a mental ninja. Love this back and forth.
@daseanclark5462
@daseanclark5462 4 года назад
I related to the awkward repositioning of everyone at 42:30 as he attempts to justify cannabilism. It’s heartbreaking really, because as you said he’s trying hard to be consistent but it ends up leading down a road that’s nonsensical and completely arbitrary- a slippery slope forreal.
@Tinesthia
@Tinesthia 4 года назад
Medically, cannibalism has been shown to have many negative effects. Including major diseases. Longer life and quality of life is reduced by cannibalism. If a society’s moral system do not include longer lives or quality of life, then by that system cannibalism may be viewed as ‘good’ or ‘neutral’. If cannibalism is allowed long term by a group of people, once they all die to prion and kuru disease there won’t be anyone left and that moral system will die. Our moral systems today have undergone similar evolution.
@daseanclark5462
@daseanclark5462 4 года назад
Jesse King I like that take. makes some sense. Do you believe the negative effects of it, and the inevitable deaths/breaking down of the moral system, as a enough of a reason to not pursue cannabilsm ?
@sarasaurusrex1000
@sarasaurusrex1000 Год назад
The book Influence by Robert Cialdini..."weapons of influence' -one being consistency...need to remain consistent influences our behavior, choices and self image..fascinating book and never seems to amaze how easily influenced people are.
@tylerbuckner3750
@tylerbuckner3750 4 года назад
Quinton: “I think you guys are blending the 2 together...” Also Quinton: “It’s really a grey area...”
@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024
@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 2 года назад
Lol 😅 timestamps would be great here.
@davidbaker5180
@davidbaker5180 4 года назад
So don't hurt anyone that can understand pain, but somehow it's okay to hunt and kill them?
@allafleche
@allafleche 3 года назад
No got it wrong, it's ''not that bad''. Lol, the absurdity he gets into trying to stay coherent is baffling
@iain5615
@iain5615 3 года назад
Embryos feel pain and don't want it. Pro-choicers always state incoherent arguments.
@scottpinkowski7544
@scottpinkowski7544 4 года назад
It’s obvious to me that Qninton has only had discussions with people who agree with what he believes. He has never been challenged intellectually or Biblically. He doesn’t know how articulate what he believes outside of his sphere of influence.
@Tinesthia
@Tinesthia 4 года назад
Oucast American Very typical of modern Christians. They’re indoctrinated by the Church, and have their worldviews reinforced by confirmation bias, and those around them only pamper their foolish beliefs and make the problem worse. Sad really. Most people are taught something and have it confirmed by bias and peer pressure. So why don’t we instead, spread the word on the value of acknowledging biases instead of trying to pretend this issue is exclusive to any one group.
@martok2008
@martok2008 4 года назад
@Oucast American Edited: my bad, i'm sure he's there for you. Sorry to piss you off.
@khalilfreeman7194
@khalilfreeman7194 4 года назад
Oucast American Wow, so you completely disregard atheism and call it a cult without any explanation, but you say Christianity is totally ok and we’re just supposed to take your word for it? You don’t sound stupidly biased at all...
@ZenrRockStarr
@ZenrRockStarr 4 года назад
@Riley Bundy "The bible say (sic) that creation is proof of a creator". Right and I have a napkin that says otherwise. You can't use a pretend god's bible to prove god. Btw, how many creations have you seen? I've seen many paintings, but only one universe. If string theory is correct, will you move your god of the gaps back even further. Oh and if you replace god with meditate, your last few sentences make more sense.
@danrichards7927
@danrichards7927 4 года назад
@@Tinesthia I didnt feel challenged by church. I felt entertained....hence the reason I no longer go to church, covid or not. I asked questions. I always believed in God, but didnt know why, to comment on your second paragraph. Then God revealed Himself, through design. Through morality. Watching porn was always embarassing and shameful to me, but I didnt think it was wrong....until i realized God equated lust with adultery.
@Westportjesusfreak
@Westportjesusfreak Год назад
I loved this as a Christian man who finds it hard to hold back my judgement for men like Quinton, so I was so humbled by how you all including Quinton held respect for one another in this well directed conversation. Thank you guys.
@rassoul420
@rassoul420 2 месяца назад
they literally judged him and even tried to belittle him. then to top it off they went with the threat of eternal torture. truly disgusting people
@B1rdTheW0rd
@B1rdTheW0rd 2 года назад
This was the most respectful conversation I’ve ever seen between a Christian and an Athiest. Praise the Lord. We’ll be praying for that man. God bless you Pastor Jeff.
@ReformedMind
@ReformedMind 4 года назад
Durbin had this debate at black belt.
@Kyle-vb3fz
@Kyle-vb3fz 4 года назад
Jeff’s questioning at the beginning, “what style of taekwondo, Chung do Kwan...?” This had the guys showing he was full of it.
@carnivorebear6582
@carnivorebear6582 4 года назад
Yeah to possess a black belt yet have so little knowledge of it is ridiculous. I have virtually no knowledge of the forms either but I don't claim to have a black belt
@ReformedMind
@ReformedMind 4 года назад
Kyle I don’t know what my black belt is but I do know that eating other people and killing babies is acceptable. 🤦🏻‍♂️ praying this message woke up his soul!
@drewrichards27
@drewrichards27 4 года назад
This is true. Over before it began. It also shows that this shouldn't be hailed as an impressive victory.
@jasonchristensen2462
@jasonchristensen2462 4 года назад
oh boy he is in all sorts of trouble with with his world view.
@Navarrator10
@Navarrator10 4 года назад
The "smartest" people sound so silly/wicked when they deny Yahweh. They think it could be ok to eat people...if enough people agreed.
@BrennahAdrianna
@BrennahAdrianna 4 года назад
Not true
@lucifer2b666
@lucifer2b666 4 года назад
@Martin England Yah or Yahweh is the original Jewish name of God, the Heavenly Father. Means "I am" so by saying Yah or Yahweh it's technically the most correct term for God the Father.
@lucifer2b666
@lucifer2b666 4 года назад
@Janne Tranberg Also, research more into the name. It's not the name of the devil. Actually saying so is blasphemy. That's the same as calling God or Jesus the devil. Which is one of the worst sins you can commit.
@icanfartloud
@icanfartloud 4 года назад
@@lucifer2b666 nobody alive or for centuries "knew how" to pronounce any name given to God. The ancient Hebrew language had pronunciations lost to history. It's a poor attempt at a guess.
@daftsutradesign1318
@daftsutradesign1318 4 года назад
@Martin England That sounds like a very Christian thing to say. And what kind of God allows a thing like hell? It's a metaphorical concept. We can create it on earth for instance by wishing ill or being indifferent to people's suffering.
@Genexus8
@Genexus8 2 года назад
Lol, she brought me from tears to laughing instantly with the "I've never met an aethist that admitted they would eat someone."
@cgixixix
@cgixixix 4 года назад
Quentin contradicts himself throughout this conversation and is unable to articulate his objections well nor answer the direct questions. This was very difficult to listen to. Difficult = heartbreaking and upsetting. If he is the epitome of what is being taught in higher education, God have mercy on the teachers/professors and generations that follow. Praying for his soul. 😔
@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024
@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 2 года назад
Unfortunately, it's (as I've been seeing, at least) very much the epitome of what's being taught in [much of] higher education.
@douglasmcnay644
@douglasmcnay644 2 года назад
Unfortunately, while the standards of education have done nobody any favors, the problem goes much deeper. We naturally, in our heart of hearts, reject the truth because we want sin and our desires, not the desires of God. It's not a head issue, it's one of the heart. And the head will come up with any possible explanation, no matter how ludicrous, to justify what the heart wants/believes.
@emmoji927
@emmoji927 2 года назад
I thought he was nowhere near as bad as most I've seen going on in colleges these days. At least he wanted to speak to people he disagreed with for over an hour. Watch any speech at a college by a pro-life activist, conservative, or even someone who isn't far left. Nearly all of them have protesters trying to shut the speech down. Some have even had people who needed to be removed by security.
@RS54321
@RS54321 Год назад
Truly. He repeats the talking points I've heard from multiple atheists/those supporting abortion et al. It's the same playlist which has been pumped into our society/education system. I think many of the questions/scenarios Jeff brought up were things Quentin had never pondered. I hope this gives him food for thought and that he turns to his Creator.
@mjmason75
@mjmason75 4 года назад
Quentin seems like a respectful smart guy, but listening to this discussion makes me realize even more how logic and reason are so difficult to define if you remove God (the intelligent designer and creator of the universe) from the equation. If there are no absolutes outside of our thoughts or feelings, there's really no accountability for any of our actions. Logic and morality has to exist outside of our existence. We aren't constructing universal laws/truths, they were already there outside of mankind. We are just discovering that which God already created and defined.
@drewrichards27
@drewrichards27 4 года назад
Matt, can you show that morality exists outside of our existence. I understand your appeal to consequences but have never seen a good presentation of evidence that our desire to have moral guidelines means they exist.
@marcslingsby8843
@marcslingsby8843 4 года назад
All people that reform there life or choose not to in itself defies evolutionary biology , we should not be able to have such responsibility to choose when we are a product of natural selection.
@drewrichards27
@drewrichards27 4 года назад
@@marcslingsby8843 Marc, that does not follow at all. Evolution is about the change in allele frequency over time. It does not speak to consciousness or whether we have the ability to choose. Even more so it does not specify that there is a way that we “Ought” to choose. Biology in general never tells us what is right, only what is. Therefore it cannot indicate whether morality exists or not.
@marcslingsby8843
@marcslingsby8843 4 года назад
@@drewrichards27 let's not turn this into a long debate, read the Bible.
@drewrichards27
@drewrichards27 4 года назад
@@marcslingsby8843 Marc, I feel dismissed by your comment. Were you trying to be insulting? I wish you would ask me if I have read the Bible before telling me to do so. I have read the Bible several times. If you do not wish to discuss further, feel free to leave anytime. No one forced you to make a comment. You chose to comment, and I pointed out a mistake in your idea. A person’s choice to “reform there life or choose not to” does not defy evolutionary biology because evolutionary biology does not speak to free will or morality. One way this is evident is that many people who understand and endorse evolutionary biology are also religious/spiritual. Catholics for example are a significant group that both endorse evolutionary biology and objective, spiritually based morality. When reading the Bible, I found a great number of claims but have never been able to verify the claims about morality existing beyond humanity. Do you have any better evidence that would show objective morality exists?
@globyois
@globyois 3 года назад
Quentin would be more accurately described as a rebellious child throwing a tantrum against God than a true seeker and defender of atheism.
@snowboyben1978
@snowboyben1978 4 года назад
Greetings from Dublin Ireland
@TheWakeUpChannel
@TheWakeUpChannel 4 года назад
He's trying so hard to stay consistent that it's hard to listen to
@misaelmatias8783
@misaelmatias8783 4 года назад
Yeah I cringed so hard when he was justifying killing someone quickly
@wretchedpoet29
@wretchedpoet29 3 года назад
facts
@beccacruz5455
@beccacruz5455 4 года назад
He talked about mental capacity to say "no I don't want that done to me." What about non-verbal special needs people? Some of them are totally dependent upon feeding tunes too. Are they less human and okay to kill???
@Tinesthia
@Tinesthia 4 года назад
A fully formed person not being able to feed oneself or being mute is not equivalent to an incomplete being with no agency that is unable to survive for even a few seconds unaided. Think of someone brain dead on Life Support. Is it okay to pull the plug sometimes? What if the life support is another Human forced to be hooked up to them? Shouldn’t the life support giver be allowed to unhook themself from the brain dead “person”?
@beccacruz5455
@beccacruz5455 4 года назад
@@Tinesthia Non-verbal people with special needs aren't mute. I encourage you to learn a little more about that. By your logic then, non-verbal special needs children who are totally dependent upon someone else for feeding and even to expel bowel movements and urine are less than human and okay to be killed.
@beccacruz5455
@beccacruz5455 4 года назад
@@Tinesthia I bring up children because we know that children aren't "fully formed". Humans don't have a fully developed pre-frontal cortex even as teenagers.
@Tinesthia
@Tinesthia 4 года назад
Becca Cruz Non-verbal special needs children is not comparable to an unconscious brain dead person on life support or an unborn fetus in it’s early stages. So your statement is not derived from my logic at all. How about responding to my actual example instead of making one up for me? I am very familiar with special needs. One of my family members adopted or became guardians of 7 children all with very special needs. 2 of which are wheelchair bound and with feeding tubes. My parents also adopted one special needs person. So you telling me to “learn a little more” just shows why you shouldn’t assume things about strangers on the internet. Non-verbal “Not involving words or using speech.” Mute “Refraining from, or incapable of speech.” How are these different and why does it matter in response to my comment?
@beccacruz5455
@beccacruz5455 4 года назад
@@Tinesthia lol I'm not telling you to learn a little more. I'm encouraging you to because there is a COGNITIVE difference between being mute and being non-verbal with special needs. I've assumed nothing about your life and I think that's great that your family cares for special needs children because they are just as valuable and worthy as typical humans. And I didn't make up an example for you. I'm just demonstrating how following your line of reasoning is inconsistent with the whole incomplete-being-dependent-on-someone-else-for-survival thing. You also brought up something categorically different which doesn't demonstrate your point at all. You used a brain dead person to demonstrate but a brain dead person is completely different from a growing person. Brain death happens from an irreversible INJURY to the brain. There is no more development that is going to happen. So that doesn't remotely compare to a developing human.
@haroldbailey9011
@haroldbailey9011 4 года назад
Ah man. Quentin seems like a really nice guy. I hope he looks further into the absolute grace, love & truth of the triune God of the Bible. I totally get the guy because I agreed with everything he said at one point. Once I put my faith in Jesus and what He did, my entire life was turned upside down
@L3f7S1d3
@L3f7S1d3 4 года назад
Which you then realized was right side up all along!
@trentonmabry8189
@trentonmabry8189 4 года назад
Praise God!
@ds29912
@ds29912 4 года назад
Absolutely brother.
@StevenLemken-it9vu
@StevenLemken-it9vu Год назад
It amazes me how some one can suppress the truth of God its like a thief looking for a policeman 👮‍♂️ God bless you brother jeff you are very patient man
@BrokennessAndBeauty
@BrokennessAndBeauty 3 года назад
I really want to outgrow the fact that I’m also the type of person to say “like” in every sentence, just LIKE the caller 😂 the contrast between the caller and Jeff’s exchange is profound. I love the way Jeff speaks his mind and how mature and intelligent he is
@Ryan_Nath
@Ryan_Nath Год назад
Us Brits us it at the end of a sentence. Dya know what I'm sayin like ? LOOOL I think it's just a Brummie thing, I'm not sure.
@scottandant
@scottandant Год назад
@@Ryan_Nath 2 tru like???🤣🤣🤣Ps From the UK
@Ryan_Nath
@Ryan_Nath Год назад
@@scottandant r like, so it's not just a Brummie thing lool
@FightIQ_YT
@FightIQ_YT Месяц назад
​@@Ryan_Nathfrom the south and we don't say it here but it definitely does get said in a quite a few parts of the UK. We have a wacky dialect 🤣
@motorTranz
@motorTranz 4 года назад
Without God we get a "Mad Max" world.
@khalilfreeman7194
@khalilfreeman7194 4 года назад
That’s not true.
@lucifer2b666
@lucifer2b666 4 года назад
We already are in a Mad Max world and God has been abandoned by the masses.
@khalilfreeman7194
@khalilfreeman7194 4 года назад
Uphill-Evolution “God” abandoned the masses.
@daftsutradesign1318
@daftsutradesign1318 4 года назад
That's basically today's world, but it's also a common enough historical theme. The thing is, the during the medieval ages the church and 'God sanctioned' Christian kings pretty much held dominion, and who's to say that those times were any better than ours? There was still holy wars, the Spanish Inquisition and God-inspired torture of supposed heretics, or characters like Queen Mary that burned protestants and heretics simply because they didn't believe or believed in a 'wrong interpretation' of God. Now I'm not saying that religion and spirituality is a bad thing per se, but it seems that insane human nature and person power aggrandizement often can't be properly offset or curbed by religion.
@khalilfreeman7194
@khalilfreeman7194 4 года назад
Some Winters Well I’m an anarchist, communist, and an agnostic atheist, so we probably feel differently about these protests. When I said “God” abandoned the masses, I meant that metaphorically.
@GloryBeToGodForever
@GloryBeToGodForever 4 года назад
*God* spoke everything into existence, that’s your Big Bang and Evolution Theories. *God* spoke, bang there it is.
@ZenrRockStarr
@ZenrRockStarr 4 года назад
*Thor* spoke everything into existence, that's your Big Bang and Evolution Theories. *Thor* spoke, bang there it is.
@samurai90519
@samurai90519 4 года назад
There isnt historical evidence of Thor but there is for Jesus
@ZenrRockStarr
@ZenrRockStarr 4 года назад
@@samurai90519 Please submit your best piece of *historical* evidence for Jebus. You do realize that the gospels were anonymous writers that post-date Jebus. There is no contemporary historical evidence for Jebus and more importantly that he was divine. There were many *messiahs* during this period of time. This one just had a small following and as soon as emperor Constantine bought in - the *religion* exploded. No different than other religions.
@Nicole-ky7ye
@Nicole-ky7ye 4 года назад
Kevin Hemeon you should check of A Case for Christ. It’s a book but also a movie if you want the easy version. It’s based on a true story of a once atheist. I’d say do the book because you’ll get a lot more info but he went at it to disprove Jesus because his wife became a believer. He didn’t a ton of research. Just an idea if you were interested. God bless!
@samurai90519
@samurai90519 4 года назад
@@ZenrRockStarr there is massive historical evidence he existed are you kidding me ? Pretty much everything you said is incorrect if you can't even do basic research you're definitely not gonna believe anything I say
@nikkimyers-spears1522
@nikkimyers-spears1522 3 года назад
This is so sad and heartbreaking. Praying this man finds Jesus.
@divinenatureonline
@divinenatureonline Год назад
Prayers for Quinton. Come to God Quinton. The Lord give him grace and open his eyes, and give him eternal life.
@vitoasaro4663
@vitoasaro4663 Год назад
I'm not throwing any attacks but does he really feel this way? I can't imagine that anyone really does. I'm glad he heard the gospel!
@agentpython
@agentpython 4 года назад
His undoing was virtue signalling to kill the fetus before 20 weeks, but agreeing that tracking, killing humans and eating other fully developed anatomically autonomous humans. The realm of absurdity..
@jerome3989
@jerome3989 4 года назад
Witnessing to athiests like this is hard, watching this allows me to gain wisdom on how to witness peacefully and lovingly, but we never know whether the seeds planted by witnessing will be watered by God.
@jerome3989
@jerome3989 4 года назад
@Martin England I see your point with this type of debating, it does seem less like evangelizing and more like quarrelling over words/pressupostions ( instead of just reading scripture 2Tim3:16 ) which 2 Timothy 2:14 warns us about. Matthew 10:14 is a good standard operating procedure when spreading the Gospel which relates to the last paragraph of your comment.
@jerome3989
@jerome3989 4 года назад
@Martin England When I read through the book of Acts, the Gospels and even 1 Peter 3:14-16...noone debated or argued, but simply told there eyewitness/second hand accounts of Jesus teachings and Old testament scripture, you make a good point noone in scripture debating or argued...but simply told the truth even until death like Stephen in Acts 7.
@jerome3989
@jerome3989 4 года назад
@Martin England Jesus never argued but rebuked and teached to those who would listen, when I read scripture he never actually argued or dabated...he was fond of using parables. So when witnessing I myself use scientific, archeoligical, historical facts which edify the word...but have been guilty of this back and forth debate which actually che s up my time arguing pressupostions instead of just speaking scripture....interesting indeed.
@ds29912
@ds29912 4 года назад
@Martin England your argument is very Calvinist. That being said your are correct that the gospel stands first and foremost. I would however say make the case that he is not meeting the standard of an apologetic.
@emagtz211
@emagtz211 4 года назад
I see that Quentin is really confused about his own worldview. Let's pray for him🙏.
@Badlands26
@Badlands26 3 года назад
“Alex, I’ll take Judgmental comments said by human beings for $600”
@cslewis1404
@cslewis1404 2 года назад
Agreed . He is contradicting himself!
@Dovey31
@Dovey31 Год назад
@@Badlands26 interesting how there are a bunch of atheist comments calling Jeff ridiculous and judging Christian's but you chose to call this comment "judgemental". And this comment is compassionate and says we should pray for him.
@FeddaCheezy
@FeddaCheezy 3 года назад
That atheist justified murder...how can someone love their sin that much? God please help him.
@CoachDChapman
@CoachDChapman 4 года назад
He can't ultimately justify any of his complaints. Someone tries to rob him he can disagree, but the robber can disagree with him as he pretends to believe no objective standard of right and wrong exist If the majority of ppl want to eat him, he can complain and tell them it's wrong, but they can simply use his belief that no objective truth exists, majority rule and it's legal.
@elsablue3646
@elsablue3646 4 года назад
I pray for Quentin that He will know Jesus Christ as his savior.
@mickohara9138
@mickohara9138 4 года назад
That will help enormously.
@deceptionsdemise
@deceptionsdemise 2 года назад
I think you all handled the conversation very well. I learned a lot from this which includes the fact that I lack boldness. I find that I shrink back out of fear (not always) when I have opportunities to tell people what their spiritual condition is. Thank you all for this video.
@LifeLover2020
@LifeLover2020 4 года назад
You should debate Matt Dillahunty. I’d love to see that!
@olgar1474
@olgar1474 4 года назад
Yessssss!
@FurlogTheGiant
@FurlogTheGiant 3 года назад
why? so Matt can wipe the floor with him?
@LifeLover2020
@LifeLover2020 3 года назад
@@FurlogTheGiant lol.. you said it not me 🙈😂
@FurlogTheGiant
@FurlogTheGiant 3 года назад
@Betty Boop laughable
@hurrikanehavok7313
@hurrikanehavok7313 3 года назад
@@FurlogTheGiant would go down the same way it did with David Wood. Matt got completely obliterated on that debate. Hmmm perhaps Matt has come up with some better arguments?
@eCouchPotatoe
@eCouchPotatoe Год назад
This guy seems totally cool with murder as long as it's done "quickly".
@infidelhardcore7881
@infidelhardcore7881 4 года назад
That intro though! BASED 👌
@Ransomonious
@Ransomonious Год назад
It blows my mind the bait-and-switch this atheist does to himself to avoid self sight
@theariesexperiment4642
@theariesexperiment4642 3 года назад
I'm always amazed how angry they get when Durbin points out The Creators grace and perfection shining through when they talk about morality and things they condemn. Such as rape, torture, abuse, cannibalism, ect.,ect. So angry. That tells me later when they are lying in bed tonight,.. they will be thinking about their stance and world view through the lense of atheism. Durbin is so well versed and respectful in his approach,....its really hard too back door him. 😆 You can hear my dudes frustration.
@RogerGoforth
@RogerGoforth 4 года назад
I got a black belt in a martial arts discipline that I can't really explain...
@jamesb6818
@jamesb6818 4 года назад
Ya that was kinda strange...
@coltonmarlette3868
@coltonmarlette3868 4 года назад
I love Jeff's interrogation haha
@LBizKid04
@LBizKid04 4 года назад
I don't think he was interrogating him as much as he was genuinely interested. Interrogation has a negative connotation, would you agree? I'm not saying interrogation is 100% used in a negative fashion, but on average it carries a negative connotation.
@coltonmarlette3868
@coltonmarlette3868 4 года назад
@@LBizKid04 well I say that knowing where he is coming from in regards to the Martial arts aspect of the conversation. People may claim something and after you ask a few questions(interrogation) you realize they are probably full of it. Just thought it was funny.
@conantheseptuagenarian3824
@conantheseptuagenarian3824 4 года назад
@@LBizKid04 it was an interrogation. he clearly didn't believe him and was trying to uncover him as a fraud.
@enasdad
@enasdad 4 года назад
This guy has obviously never owned chickens.
@21kornbred
@21kornbred 4 года назад
Too true
@paulgreenleaf600
@paulgreenleaf600 4 года назад
Hahaha! Chickens, as well as most animals and gardens can teach a person a lot, for one we are nothing close to an animal. Its obvious God gave us animals and that we didn't come from animals.
@unprofitableservantsministry
@unprofitableservantsministry 4 года назад
😂👏
@aidenhutto5969
@aidenhutto5969 6 месяцев назад
How does one know a crooked line if he has no idea what is straight??
@SliceOfTheWild
@SliceOfTheWild 4 года назад
I want the intro to this on my driving playlist... but longer and with more Bible verses 😁
@absolutetruth568
@absolutetruth568 4 года назад
Praise GOD ( I AM THAT I AM ) in the name of Jesus!!!!!!
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 4 года назад
There is an extensive amount of evidence that we are far more different than baboons!
@donniebrasco7243
@donniebrasco7243 4 года назад
@Oucast American Thanks for that comment, i just spat my tea out all over my keyboard! :-) Here is a fact: donkeys and snakes don't talk.
@samael5782
@samael5782 4 года назад
@Oucast American Christians, they are called Christians.
@donniebrasco7243
@donniebrasco7243 4 года назад
@Oucast American Hilarious. Here's an idea, I'll stick to my evolution and science, and you keep worshipping your invisible mass-murderer.
@blastinkaps8826
@blastinkaps8826 3 года назад
@@donniebrasco7243 ur evolution requires faith. There is no evidence for macro evolution.
@michaelhardee7211
@michaelhardee7211 4 года назад
I have a black belt but can't name a kata??
@adameisbrenner6209
@adameisbrenner6209 4 года назад
Some schools don't have names for them, but number them. Perhaps that is what his school does?
@rickdavis2235
@rickdavis2235 4 года назад
@@adameisbrenner6209 I don't think anyone could reach the level of black belt without knowing the name of at least one kata.
@davidfoster2338
@davidfoster2338 4 года назад
I haven't been in a Martial Arts school in 20 years and I can still name all the stuff I studied because they drill into your head. Asking an black belt what forms they learned and getting a non answer is like asking somebody that claims to have been in the military what their MOS was and getting a non answer.
@juliogomez9145
@juliogomez9145 Год назад
42:30-43:30 My jaw dropped when Quentin (caller) said that he doesn't think it's that bad to eat people if the process of killing is fast and painless. This is what happens when you're honest about atheism. It leads to a worldview of absurdities. I appreciate the gentleman trying to be consistent with his arguments. Rarely do i see athiests do this. This gives us an opportunity to see what their worldview is truly like.
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 Год назад
Are you getting help with these delusions? ;-)
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 Год назад
​@@lepidoptera9337 The atheist in the video is certainly deluded!
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 Год назад
@@justin10292000 I am not in that video, kid. You are clearly having trouble keeping people apart from each other. Is it a vision problem or do you just need to be fed because you are lonely? ;-)
@MikeSuhay1992
@MikeSuhay1992 3 года назад
When Jeff challenged him on his black belt knowledge he froze up…I have a strong feeling this guy is not a legitimate black belt
@TheDemolition2000
@TheDemolition2000 4 года назад
You know that you’re in MASSIVE trouble when Jeff starts off his next sentence with: “I mean this with all due humble respect and love toward you because you are created in the image of God, with purpose and inherent value, and that I do appreciate and respect you as a human being, with all sincerity...”
@DRayL_
@DRayL_ 4 года назад
Why should that matter? It's not like "anything he says afterward is correct"!
@paigewells3678
@paigewells3678 3 года назад
exactly, lol
@yhvh4god
@yhvh4god 4 года назад
Here we have an Atheist dripping with morality. The epitome of inconsistency.
@bonnie43uk
@bonnie43uk 4 года назад
Not at all my friend, you don't need a supernatural God to live a moral life.
@yhvh4god
@yhvh4god 4 года назад
@@bonnie43uk You just watched the same video I did, yes? If what was said in the video isn't enough to prove my point, then you and I conversing surely won't.
@bonnie43uk
@bonnie43uk 4 года назад
@@yhvh4god Almost certainly.
@laquan3661
@laquan3661 2 года назад
​@@bonnie43uk Are there moral absolutes in an atheistic worldview? If so, who determines what's morally absolute?
@bonnie43uk
@bonnie43uk 2 года назад
@@laquan3661 Well, to start with my friend, atheists don't all share the same world view, you could be a heart surgeon, a roadsweeper, a professor or a criminal, there is no typical "atheist" .. the only thing atheists have in common is that we don't believe in a God as such.. certainly not the Christian God, or the Muslim God or Hindu God. Our answers would probably differ as to what our worldview is, i can't speak for other non believers. But, as regards my own worldview, I share a lot of my moral values with things that Christians believe are good morals, to be kind to others, show compassion, treat others as you want to be treated, these are universal moral standards that virtually all decent societies adopt. You don't need a belief in a God to hold those moral values. As regards moral absolutes, .. i take each situation on it's own merits and use my brain to work out whether its moral or not.. if you give me a certain scenario, i will give you my view. Generally, anything that is harmful to my fellow man is not good, and anything beneficial is good.. but it would very much depend on the actual situation.
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 2 года назад
Atheistic worldview: feet planted firmly in the air, waving around aimlessly and often angrily.
@Becca_Lynn
@Becca_Lynn Год назад
My jaw literally dropped when this kid started saying it was okay to murder and eat another human. I'm dead lol
@igobydubri
@igobydubri Год назад
Lol! The lengths we go to to cling to our beliefs and ultimately deny the authority of Christ
@oxtailsoup6493
@oxtailsoup6493 Год назад
He was being logically consistent. It’s just that the logical consistency brought about was absurdity. That’s how you know his worldview reduces to absurdity.
@jakekieffer4276
@jakekieffer4276 Год назад
I think we can agree he did not actually think that. The kid is smart and knew he would contradict himself if he stated that eating people is 100% wrong. I think that night he really broke down his worldview in his head
@Chirhopher
@Chirhopher Год назад
​@@jakekieffer4276 Well, the first part of Your comment is def on point. i dont know what he did that night; We can certainly hope.. i do Know from Holy Scripture that He was either granted Wrath or Grace; likely doubling down on n in his sin, or is being Drawn by The FATHER to The SON, by The SPIRIT. ~sDg
@live_excelsior5160
@live_excelsior5160 Год назад
Yes!!! I’m like wow, a life without God will really lead you anywhere.
@Chirhopher
@Chirhopher 4 года назад
i have Never heard someone from that world-view say Logic(From The LOGOS) Is Outside of Humans! Esp. in the way he did! Amazing
@jawmedia7575
@jawmedia7575 Год назад
Long story short. This dudes world view is absolutely horrifying. My goodness
@LiaBia616
@LiaBia616 Год назад
So sad… I would feel suicidal 😢
@themorrow3547
@themorrow3547 Год назад
This kid lost so many times during this exchange. God bless your patience Jeff, his rambles put me to sleep.
@88BuckMeister
@88BuckMeister Год назад
One thing ive realized over the years. Some people are just so devoid of God and the holy spirit, that you have to DETERMIME WHO IT IS YOU'RE SPEAKING TO about a moral issue. I recently had a discussion about abortion with someone i know to have a leftist ideology. I laid out every case i could to prove that it is a life, that life starts at conception, and that drawing any line as to when and if its ok winds up being fallacious. After the fact, i asked "do you understand?" She responded with "yes, youve convinced me it is a human life. I dont care, even if it is a human baby im still ok with killing it". It was at that moment i realized it wasnt simply that she was simply uninformed, but that she was a woman with no moral compass. Some people, no matter what you tell them, or how in depth you try and explain something, youll simply never change their mind, because its not that their moral compass is corrupted because theyre just not as well informed as you, or havent thought as hard and long about an issue as you, its because theyre just evil people. You need to establish who it is youre talking with before you attempt to engage them with information.
@baberoot1998
@baberoot1998 Год назад
How can one argue...with one whose vocabulary uses the word "like"...every other word? Someone should also explain to him...that there is no such word as "um". This poor guy...does not seem to even follow the logic of this argument. I am thoroughly confused, with his argument. It is hard when it is obvious he doesn't really understand his own stance. Quentin doesn't seem to understand the subject matter.
@triggerwarning2982
@triggerwarning2982 3 года назад
43:00 I wonder if he’s told his friends and family that? The absurdity these ppl have to move into in order to stay consistent is scary. Insane!
@Ziebenator63-jj9ej
@Ziebenator63-jj9ej 4 года назад
When you have full knowledge of God’s Word and standard and understand the human condition, even the most intellectual atheist will back himself into a corner every time! I have a much respect for Jeff (and Quentin the caller for his calmness and ability to listen and articulate his opinion) but in the end...God has authority over all of us!!
@4everloved142
@4everloved142 4 года назад
My neighbor went and got her third abortion. I told her that she may have had two past abortions but now was the time to change. It isn’t safe. She went anyways because her husband said to “get rid of it or your out!” She asked me if I could help her out with her kids had she needed it after the abortion. Even though I didn’t want to, I did it anyways. Well... she ended up in pain, her legs were swollen and I looked it up and it was not normal. I told her to go to the ER. She refused. Two weeks later and all her pain meds are gone, she finally caved in and called PPH. Their response “you can go to the ER but we will do it for free if you come Monday” (it was Friday) then they said “go to .... hospital because our doctors work there too” I think it was all to cover it up. When she finally went in on Monday she found out she had a botched abortion and they covered it up as a “follow up appointment”. They asked her to take one of her pain pills, she said she was all out because of all the pain she had been in. They didn’t use any pain meds for her because they didn’t want to coverup the equipment used for the procedure. They made it a point to say “this is for free!” And “we are doing this for free out of the kindness out of our hearts” etc... she said it was very painful. Then they pushed her out the door. This all makes me sick. I know her story is not the only one. She is not one in a million. This was supposed to be a “safe abortion” according to standards. At a PPH that is new. New equipment and building, everything!! They talk about back ally abortions as an argument, but this is no better. The only difference is, one is with someone who has a title and liability insurance.
@4everloved142
@4everloved142 4 года назад
Also, she has such a bad infection, she was very bloated. She said the look on the nurses faces was concerning. I think she was close to deaths door. I pray this is a wake up call to her
@TeachMeLordGod
@TeachMeLordGod Год назад
How come we ain't hearing about these stories enough, this would probably make some stop.
@thomasstokes1949
@thomasstokes1949 Год назад
In the year 1969 around midnight of August 8th, four members of the Manson family murdered Sharron Tate and her unborn child and 4 other people after brutally torturing them. There were a host of people at the time in and out of the family who felt it was (at minimum) okay, some even would have said it was necessary. Notice how no matter how many people were involved or agree with it, it still doesn't make it right. Some things are evil despite human opinion or consensus.
@harleewaites8227
@harleewaites8227 Год назад
Sooo it’s ok to rape someone in a coma bc they can’t feel fear or be hurt bc they can’t respond to physical stimuli? I’m going to tell you right now we’re all of you atheist get your desire for justice and morality from… your creator, you by nature, love justice, and have a sense of morality because you are made in the image and reflection of a holy God… the Savior of sinners Jesus Christ. See how simple that is? The truth is clear and simple lies are complicated and make no sense.
@2kchi177
@2kchi177 Год назад
She said it profoundly “Why isn’t a baboon sitting next to me and talking?” That’s really deep to think about and well said.😂❤👍🏾
@destinfarr
@destinfarr 4 года назад
"Quentin didn't know Pastor Jeff was coming on and it was like being after school and someone's like, 'Meet me outside to fight!' and you bringing your dad...." 🤣
@DanielApologetics
@DanielApologetics 4 года назад
Well done, Jeff!
@landonmiller2310
@landonmiller2310 Год назад
Im personally questioning the legitimacy of that black belt, lol
@supermandefender
@supermandefender Год назад
He completely abandoned all reason the moment he said he thinks its okay to kill another human being for food if it is quick.
@wretchedpoet29
@wretchedpoet29 3 года назад
I thank God for saving me! Hearing this guy talk reminds me of where I was before the LORD called me. Let's pray for him.
@nelsonomicsruns9246
@nelsonomicsruns9246 4 года назад
I think an even more directly applicable question would be regarding the military in foreign countries. The left, made up large of atheists and those who tend towards arbitrary and subjective morality views, decries the military actions, such as those in the middle East for instance, as murderous. But It's essentially believed in that system not to be murder but defense, which is to say that in the military and especially in those areas whatever actions they take are believed to be moral by that group and yet the left cries them but that's because the left is inconsistent every conceivable way
@danielshaw7397
@danielshaw7397 4 года назад
Thank you Provoked squad! Tuning in from Vietnam and taking notes
@joshswicegood3253
@joshswicegood3253 Год назад
Man the mental gymnastics an atheist has to do to justify his moral beliefs
@jacobjohnson5992
@jacobjohnson5992 Год назад
Lord heard my prayers and got me out of "hotel California" in Chicago some years back. When I got in the car I excitedly told my wife how a man prayed over me in there. He spoke in Spanish. So i was wondering with her what religion are we to be (I think i even said scientology maybe? Roflmao 😂😂😂) So, got home, got on you tube and the 1st thing I saw was a young man's testimony of how he'd seen judgement day. You could just tell he at least in his heart of hearts had a 100% out of body experience. The very next thing I watched was a upload of something called "The sermon that shocked everyone" The pastor? Da Ninja. I was hooked! Couldn't get enough of this Apologia church . Then I seen Dr James White and fell in love the 2nd time. I can listen to these guys all day and never get bored. They're the best. Jeff's testimony is down to earth. Look it up if you can
@j_moni83
@j_moni83 4 года назад
@21:15 Quentin engages in special pleading. He narrowly tailors his definition of “attached” so as to specifically exclude all human beings except the fetus. He’s creating a standard that can only apply to a fetus so as to justify a position that would allow for someone to aggress upon said fetus.
@alannagray1276
@alannagray1276 4 года назад
Jeff is a great evangelist. He shows so much respect and love to the people he is speaking with. I believe this is the best way to present God and His Word to unbelievers.
@trollbridges4724
@trollbridges4724 2 года назад
He shows absolutely no respect for people. It’s his condescending religious attitude that’s disgusting! Besides, he doesn’t talk to nonbelievers he talks down to believers of some thing other than what he thinks! He’s pathetic really!
@brianchristopher8843
@brianchristopher8843 2 года назад
@@AnarchoPunkChad troll is in the name. It was a comment designed to evoke emotions and make someone lose control.
@jeremykoerperich4779
@jeremykoerperich4779 2 года назад
@@trollbridges4724 yep I had a conversation with once where he threatened me n multiple comments because I was holding his feet to the fire over Numbers 5 :11-31 … he said I was just trying to one up a Christian but I just wanted him to tell me how it was ok but he did the Hovind shuffle and told me I didn’t understand because I didn’t read 70 other verses even though the verse I was talking to him about was very straight forward and direct
@serversideissues4249
@serversideissues4249 Год назад
@@jeremykoerperich4779 So what's your question with regards to Numbers 5 : 11-31? Morality?
@jeremykoerperich4779
@jeremykoerperich4779 Год назад
@@serversideissues4249 I don’t have a question about Numbers 5 11-31. My question to him was if he felt that a forced miscarriage ( which we all know is an abortion) was a good punishment for an unfaithful spouse. And if so then it means he really isn’t anti-abortion. It also says in the Bible that god feels it’s a good punishment. And about two messages into the conversation he started to tell me that i wouldn’t talk to him like that in person and that I couldn’t handle him. While I never once in our conversation used a curse word or had any kind of attitude.
@m0usju1c3
@m0usju1c3 4 года назад
Oh my goodness that intro I'm so pumped!
@hib2793
@hib2793 4 года назад
Meet Quinten, who says "It's okay to hunt and kill a man as long as it's socially acceptable" Now say hello to Quinten, the pre emancipation abolitionist.
@hib2793
@hib2793 4 года назад
@Nick Jones Every morality Quentin believes in are only due to his geographical location and it's social acceptance. Lets be glad he was raised in a predominantly Christian society. Otherwise its a painless trip to eternity for you Nick Jones.
@scarlett4534
@scarlett4534 Год назад
Athiesm has no objective morality. Just opinion and preference.
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