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How to fix your Prusa Mini jamming issues.

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@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 4 года назад
Oh man, someone shared this video with me on the Prusa Facebook users group... this might be the fix I've been looking for!
@audiorazor
@audiorazor 3 года назад
Over a year later and they are still sending them out like this. Pretty bad QC
@abrahamcink
@abrahamcink 2 года назад
I spent two straight weeks trying everything in my 3D Printing toolbox. None of it worked. This took me maybe fifteen minutes to do and it finally works. Thank you and oof.
@Netherlands031
@Netherlands031 4 года назад
If I understand correctly, the fix you did is twofold. 1) moving the heat break more into the heatsink, hereby reducing the temperature in the lower part of the heat break, where the filament goes from a PTFE channel to a metal channel, which is a point where you want to have low temps to avoid the filament from going between the PTFE and metal, and 2) getting the inner PTFE liner snug against the heat break, which apparently isn't always done in the factory. Just received my mini yesterday and I also have filament grinding, underextrusion, and a heatbreak that looks like it sticks too far out. I'll have to do some more reading because if this is a mistake during manufacturing, I don't understand why it's still happening 4 months later.
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
1) The melt-zone is shorter. The only issue I can foresee is if you wanted to print with a high throughput. 2)This is the main fix. Warm filament was bulging in between the PTFE tube and heatbreak causing flow issues.
@TheSouper07
@TheSouper07 3 года назад
Just got mine 3.31.2021, same issue. Why have they not fixed this at the factory?!?!?! I thought Prusa was a good brand.
@Netherlands031
@Netherlands031 3 года назад
@@TheSouper07 I wonder about that too, I have replaced the hot end with an e3d lite6 and it works fine now
@PortalFPV
@PortalFPV 4 года назад
I feel like THIS should be something done to a new Prusa Mini the moment one unboxes it before anyone wastes time trying to print out of the box. Completed this tweak yesterday and my Prusa Mini is printing like a champ with everything I've thrown at it so far
@gabriels5885
@gabriels5885 4 года назад
Only thing I'd add for all watching: Do not set the MINDA probe too high. It should be very close to the surface of the print, like in the video. Before this video was made, I fixed my printer using forum postings but set my MINDA too high, about 1 1/2 cm or so above the surface. The printer didn't detect the surface during calibration (because it was so high) and quickly made a circular dent in my steel sheet, caused by the extruder slamming into the sheet. Just be aware!
@lennertvanderkort3044
@lennertvanderkort3044 4 года назад
Thanx, after waiting for a new bed because mine was skewed. I still had the under extrusion issue, your info helped me solve this problem! I don't wanna bash Prusa or anything, but the mini is rushed. We're sort of beta testers at this point, but i keep faith that Prusa resolve most of the problems.
@jsvalentin
@jsvalentin 2 года назад
really wished saw this sooner... this is exactly what I did to fix my issue yesterday.
@DranCh
@DranCh 3 года назад
You are a life saver. I was going crazy, my mini was doing fine with Prusament but other brand PLA was causing clicking and under-extrusion, then straight up frequent jams. Performing your suggested adjustment fixed the issue instantly. Its amazing Prusa sent out these machines with the wrong height on the hotend, did they not test the printer with different PLA brands?
@klickeldiklick
@klickeldiklick 4 года назад
Thanks for the video! I'm a little bit disappointed that this so called beginner-friendly 3D printer has many issues that require experience and knowledge to fix them. I'll wait 2-3 weeks and see, if I cancel my order or not.
@gabriels5885
@gabriels5885 4 года назад
It was a beginner-friendly design, but there are some first-run issues at the start of production. By the time you get your printer, many of these problems should be resolved.
@TheOldKenobi
@TheOldKenobi 4 года назад
Never buy something at release, your always a tester ;-)
@bkindt
@bkindt 3 года назад
Unfortunately, the issues still are present now, almost a year later on the new printers.
@misakotto
@misakotto 3 года назад
@@bkindt Unfortunately, it is true
@Jake-zp4xg
@Jake-zp4xg 4 года назад
Fixed my Mini! Mine started jamming after about 5 days. Prints like a dream now. Cheers!
@vanschaaykb
@vanschaaykb 2 года назад
Thank you for this video, I was having under extrusion problems with my Mini even using Prusament. It has never printed properly since I had to disassemble the hot end to clean out the gummed up junk PETG that I used once. I think this is a much better approach to seating the hot end then described in the manual.
@bkindt
@bkindt 3 года назад
The PTFE issue is still a problem. My Mini jammed and clogged exactly like you described.
@gryphons3
@gryphons3 3 года назад
Thanks for this, fixed my issue. I upgraded to Super PINDA and was getting clicking and odd extrusuion issues, pushig up the hotend fixed it.
@CharlesD4rwin
@CharlesD4rwin 4 года назад
Works much better than the knowledge center suggestion. Gotta keep that PTFE hot end tub in there snug! Make sure you adjust PINDA as necessary!
@thedoble
@thedoble 4 года назад
Thanks, this fixed the under extrusion for my mini too. It printed flawlessly for about 2 weeks and then just stopped. My 3 set screws were very tight and there was no filament under / around the PTFE, so I presume jams were happening between the nozzle and the PTFE because there was too much space there? Maybe changing filaments exacerbated the issue (I swap between PLA and PETG) Anyway, thanks for making this video!
@bounceknight3696
@bounceknight3696 3 года назад
Just got my mini today, jammed every single time. I have to really thank you, you helped me!
@christopherenoch4230
@christopherenoch4230 4 года назад
God bless! So far, so good! This is very similar to what is in the manual, but enough different that this worked. I did the Prusa way 4 times, still had extrusion\clogging issues. Your way is still working!
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
Glad it helped!
@tombellucco7155
@tombellucco7155 4 года назад
@Christopher Enoch How are things going 2 months later? I was told this issue will keep occurring time after time.
@christopherenoch4230
@christopherenoch4230 4 года назад
@@tombellucco7155 Awesome, absolutely no issues. I now know how to get it right after taking the hotend or nozzle replacement... Thanks
@davecbc
@davecbc Год назад
This worked GREAT! No more crummy prints. Thanks SO much for the insight.
@1024kilobyte
@1024kilobyte 3 года назад
Also fixed my issues with underextrusion and clicking extruder. Thanks!
@johntabelon367
@johntabelon367 3 года назад
Thanks for putting out this video. This was the source of my z-banding and clogs. My prints on my mini look 1000 times better.
@nealmarkham6715
@nealmarkham6715 3 года назад
This was the fix for me... thanks! Worked a charm and Mini back up to quality prints.
@keenan8144
@keenan8144 3 года назад
Thank you for this I got a mini+ and it still had this issue.
@manzub95
@manzub95 4 года назад
Thanks a lot i was stuck until i found your video ,now my Prusa mini run perfectly
@paulcrackton7064
@paulcrackton7064 3 года назад
that was it, uff, perfect, thanks for this video. the only part that made trouble was the pre-assembled one. probably a monday. now its printing again!
@option3
@option3 3 года назад
This worked perfectly for mine, been pretty great prints, since. Thanks for putting this together!
@paulyorke1437
@paulyorke1437 4 года назад
Brilliant mate, many thanks for this instructional video. Just received my Mini and was initially impressed with ease of assembly and testing. Test printing however was not good compared with even the oldest of my 3 x MK3Ss. Out of three test prints (Prusa Nut gcode on supplied USB stick) only one was completed and that wasn't pretty. I followed your instructions to the letter. Also removed nozzle and heat break tube. Spot on, just as you'd indicated, way out of adjustment, plastic lodged above the extruder and heat break tube partially blocked. Just added some heat compound when reassembling the heart break tube. All printing perfectly and my faith is now restored in Prusa again. I agree with other below, this should be in the assembly manual as a standard practice for all Mini assembly out of the box. Still puzzles me that Prusa don't assemble their own product correctly in production.........
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
Good deal.
@isaacd.9986
@isaacd.9986 4 года назад
Hey this guy's my teacher!
@chrisschachtelinc3279
@chrisschachtelinc3279 4 года назад
What really makes me a bit sad with the Prusa Mini - why didn't prusa continue the partnership with E3D here and instead created something which feels a bit like a bad chinese hermera clone - the heatbreak simply does not heat-break and looks to be optimized for production costs and not for function or quality. With the volume Prusa can provide I am sure they would have been able to get a good deal or even a product developed especially for them by E3D ...
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
It definitely looks like it was designed to save costs, reduce BOM, and possibly weight. If it is assembled properly it works. There will always be weak points with budget printers.
@PortalFPV
@PortalFPV 4 года назад
Can't wait to do this to mine but I'm waiting for a replacement nozzle (broke surprisingly easy when first attempting this). People are upset that Prusa didn't catch this or think the mini was rushed. Remember, at the factory they are using Prusament which has some of the best tolerances in the business, that's why when you are printing with "their" sample filament, the printer works great, but when you use anything else the issues start to arise
@REDxFROG
@REDxFROG 3 года назад
orly? I can throw just any filament on my Anet A8 (E3D Hemera) or my CR10 (Bondtech all metal E3D Direct Drive) ....... but mini can only handle Prusament because of it's tolerances?
@PortalFPV
@PortalFPV 3 года назад
@@REDxFROG at first...yes. But this is an easy fix and then anything can be printed
@LopezElRoboto
@LopezElRoboto 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing this video - I was having a similar jamming issue when using Monoprice PLA+ (like 5x the diameter tolerance of Prusament, yikes).
@melbamorph
@melbamorph 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. This fixed the problems I was having.
@anders_frisk
@anders_frisk 3 года назад
really improved my mini! thanks!
@CopyLion
@CopyLion 3 года назад
New Mini+ owner here, having this issue only a few days in. Hope your solution works and Prusa really should look into this. *sees video date* never mind I think they never did...
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 3 года назад
Good luck. Mine has been working great.
@CopyLion
@CopyLion 3 года назад
It's not about you, but every time when I see such "working great" comments I wonder what are the standards of "great" is. For me an old Ender 3 + SKR Mini E3 does way better than the Mini OOB. Yea sure there must be someone's machine out there working great, I can see such lucky guys under literally every thread on Prusa Mini's official forum and for some strange reason you can see the same names on each thread. Such kind of comments are usually extra irritating since that helps nothing and (for some of them) implying it's just the user's problem. I've been printing for 5 years, owned 5 to 6 machines and now running a small business selling 3D printed stuff, can't say I am some kind of guru but not an amateur. In this very first week my Mini had this hotend issue (leading to extruder jams too) + MINDA randomly crashed onto the bed during ABL leaving a dent (and the MINDA is not broken but some kind of firmware glitch) + skewed X axis + faulty USB drive fried all my files, too much of these I think sooner or later Prusa Knowledge Base and all the forums can't be any help.
@CopyLion
@CopyLion 3 года назад
For the hotend issue: I've tried your trick, it works for around 20 hours of printing then there the jam comes back. Gave the trick another try and changed the filament into some fresh quality stuff. Fingers crossed.
@DogLifeXtreme
@DogLifeXtreme 2 дня назад
This totally did the trick on mine. Thank you.
@Dmitry_IMHO
@Dmitry_IMHO 3 года назад
You know :-) Many thanks for the straight forward explanations.
@tysonl79
@tysonl79 4 года назад
Finally, the solution. Thank you!
@FrocketGaming
@FrocketGaming 4 года назад
My PTFE tube was over a mm too short for what prusa said it should be. They told me my hot end was too low and needed to be moved up too. Told me to use the 1.5mm allen key that was sent with the printer... Except I didn't get one. When I purchased the allen key I discovered all 3 of those screws are stripped! Ugh. So now prusa is sending me a new heat sink and hotend to replace the whole thing.
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 3 года назад
Hope they take care of you and get the printer fixed.
@FrocketGaming
@FrocketGaming 3 года назад
@@SteamLabs I'm sure they will but it's not what I'd expect from a beginner-friendly printer. I went from 0 knowledge of any of this to having to learn all about the printer just to get it to function as expected. lol
@youtubieee
@youtubieee 3 года назад
fixed my mini following your guide! thanks a lot.
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
Said PINDA meant MINDA. 10 millimeters not centimeters.
@gabriels5885
@gabriels5885 4 года назад
What is the difference between MINDA and PINDA? I see them mixed up all the time. And the Prusa Mini itself advertises it uses a MINDA probe yet comes with "PINDA inside" stickers which only makes it more confusing.
@sweetnessmagoo642
@sweetnessmagoo642 3 года назад
Thank you! Totally fixed my issue!
@luchoperez3472
@luchoperez3472 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing! Solved for me
@DargoDog
@DargoDog 3 года назад
Seriously, for the price paid, this should not be an issue, and it is really BS that anything like this needs to be done to a new printer. With that, thanks for the video, I will see if this is what is causing my issues. I am assuming that what you said "10cm" that you meant 10mm.
@briankumanchik2474
@briankumanchik2474 4 года назад
Lifesaver - or at least Printsaver! Thanks!
@Evanp1
@Evanp1 4 года назад
Fixed my issue, thank you!
@MasterControl90original
@MasterControl90original 4 года назад
Did you send some feedback to prusa clients service? This fix can also help them avoid this manufacturing defect in the future.
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
I sent feedback and talked with chat. When I tried to assemble per their directions it did not work.
@marcelb.7224
@marcelb.7224 3 года назад
I have the same issue. I hope it works
@millionmike1
@millionmike1 4 года назад
Hello did that spare kit come with your prusa mini or did you buy that separate? Also have you had any problems with it since this video? I plan on buying one but I want to make sure to have spares of everything. Thank you so much!
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
This is the spares kit that came with my printer. Zero problems since I did this fix. Good luck!
@SM26
@SM26 4 года назад
really good explanation! just one question I have: if the Mini got one PTFE tube inside and one in the spare part kit. why doesn't it come with the right one from the factory?
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
They start off ok, but I believe that over time get compressed and deform.
@printednest
@printednest 2 года назад
best printer I have, but now Voron on the way
@xhex_3116
@xhex_3116 4 года назад
Hey dude, awesome video I'm excited to try. How many Millimetres is the gap now between the block and heat sink? Thanks again
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
I'm not sure, it's not critical. Just get it close.
@xhex_3116
@xhex_3116 4 года назад
Steam Labs Ya pushed it up all the way like you mentioned and it hasn’t clogged since 👍
@xhex_3116
@xhex_3116 4 года назад
Steam Labs Thanks again, I reposted this link in the Prusa Mini FB group as I am still seeing other users with issues.
@tombellucco7155
@tombellucco7155 4 года назад
@@xhex_3116 How is it working now (after a couple of months)?
@xhex_3116
@xhex_3116 4 года назад
Tom Bellucco Its working great, i feel like it may have been me using to low temps previously more than the heatbreak itself. I also purchased a newer mini and its been great since day one, no adjustments needed.
@jeffnoxon
@jeffnoxon 4 года назад
Having the same problems, and my center grub screw was on so tight from the factory that it rounded off rather than coming free. There's not enough of the screw exposed to grab with another tool. I'm at a loss how to remove it now.
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
There are a few tricks. Always use the flat end, not the ball end. Heat the hot end, that may loosen it. Try super gluing the wrench in the grub screw. If you do get it out replace it with a socket head cap screw. Good luck.
@bulldog8934
@bulldog8934 2 года назад
really wish it would have actually shown how to do this
@sebabalo
@sebabalo 3 года назад
Thanks
@JohnC-bi1nc
@JohnC-bi1nc 4 года назад
Is there a video on how to raise the probe correctly?
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
No video, but it's straight forward. Lower than z axis until the nozzle is touching the bed. Raise the minda the thickness of a credit card. Then recalibrate.
@techvsdeep
@techvsdeep 4 года назад
If I push the heat break so high, the inliner has to be shortened, otherwise the connection cannot be screwed in as far as it will go. Is that correct? My inliner is 43mm long?
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
The ptfe tube liner has to be compressed. The top brass fitting will create compression and should not be completely tightened.
@drexelvenero2604
@drexelvenero2604 4 года назад
This video solved the jam issue I was having that is identical to the one you were having, but now I am having excessive stringing. I think I may have raised it too high and now the fan is doing something to the filament. Any suggestions on how high the nozzle should be? Can you measure it?
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
Stringing with PLA? Try adjusting your temp and retraction.
@drexelvenero2604
@drexelvenero2604 4 года назад
@@SteamLabs temperature and retraction barely helped, the only thing that completely worked was setting the print fan to 0. Using a different filament helped a little.
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
Humidity can be absorbed by flame and change it's properties. Try drying it out or use a new filament. I use the stock pla profile in prusa slicer and have good results.
@jaysf2788
@jaysf2788 3 года назад
I just did this fix and now my hotend is extruding a ton of excess filament, its like a constant flow of filament, it wont stop until the machine cools down. Is that how the printer is supposed to be? This is my first 3d printer, I'm not really sure how much excess filament should come out after printing.
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 3 года назад
Filament will ooze out until the pressure from the extruder is gone. It happens on most printers especially bowden tube setups like the Mini.
@jaysf2788
@jaysf2788 3 года назад
@@SteamLabs Wow thanks so much, I asked in the Prusa discord and this is the exact answer I got. I appreciate your quick reply and useful video.
@iLuvCats
@iLuvCats 3 года назад
Didn't help my printer at all. Prusa is sending me a whole new hotend assembly. Sucks. My mk3 works amazing. This is not so far. Haven't got one print out of it.
@andreschu5670
@andreschu5670 4 года назад
Please amplify your volume. This is not audible
@SteamLabs
@SteamLabs 4 года назад
No issues on my end, I just checked. Make sure the master volume on your device is turned up.
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