PS5 Pro Beats the RTX 4090 According to This "Journalist" 

Peasents never change😂

PS4 pro is like a GTX 1060 3GB. Or an RX 570.

they claimed ps5 already beat 2080ti in performance while the console is just on par with 2070 super

3 years ago the ps5 was already out and is nowhere near a 3090, why would the ps4 pro be better than a 3090?

Isn’t the PS4 like a gtx 760 😂

Same processor yet a £1500+ GPU....sure seems legit

It see a price hike recently ... With so little games that PS5 have there are no real justification to have PS5 Pro. Also journalists nowdays has no respect from me.

If your PC is so much better than a console, why do you have to beg for our games? Sony doesn’t owe you Bloodborne. If your platform is truly superior, just keep playing Dota 2 and CS:GO. Maybe focus on those endless mods and upgrades instead of coveting what we have.

@@Hono1256your acting like PlayStation has hundreds of amazing games when it only has like five good exclusives still only on the ps5

​​@@Hono1256searching for a PC begger is like fishing for a tractor. It's ridiculous and unlikely. We don't beg, we own 🤷🏿‍♂️💪🏿 But fun, a troll! Look everyone, a lowlife who thinks his opinions matter! Point and laugh 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@KeyJayHD your life matter? If it didn’t matter to you guys why would this guy make a response video about the video

Wasn't that insomniac, or a earlier date? There are too many to count and also depending on time plans change.

"weard"? Never heard of that word

And they already started talking about the PS7. They completely forgot the number 6 existed Also, it's spelled *Weird

its 800 bucks in canada. fuckin ridiculous

Not to mention paying to use your internet. (Still insane to me that this is a thing)

@jjojon7072 I guess they have an eastern seaboard toll road fetishism with Sony

The leaks actually show it will have a bump in GPU performance. The PS5 has 36 active CUs whereas the leaks says 60 active CUs which is equivalent to the 7800 XT. It's the CPU that isn't getting much of a bump.

@@KevDawg1992 Oh, okay. It's the PS5 Bottleneck Edition. Cool.

@@KevDawg1992actually 🤓it’ll still be a useless plastic box that will never supersede a gaming pc

It's already bottlenecked so that extra 10% if CPU power will equate to about 10% more performance. The PS5Pro is a junk upgrade if you don't upgrade your CPU

No, it has the same cpu as the xbox. The gpu was improved, but it's going to be bottlenecked by the cpu.

id be surprised if it even comes close to a 7800 xt

The leaks indicate nothing close to a 7800 XT. It's rumored to have peak performance at 33tflops. The 7800XT is 37tflops so around 11% faster. Even the 7700XT is slightly faster, so if the leaks end up being true, it will be slower than a $400ish card.

The ps5 already run hot as hell even with that 6 pound heatsink. The consoles can't handle the heat that a 4090 puts out.

But.. what about the next level of the magical ssd?

lol a 7800 xt lol.

Yes, I think it’s most of the player base that hasn’t upgraded.

@@Null0023actually about half if not more have upgraded now. Although it does differ on region

@@crestofhonor2349approximately half of PlayStations active userbase of 118 million is still on PS4 And the PS5 sold over 59 million units

I'm still on PS4. Ain't no way I was gonna spend $2000usd ona console...AND wait 8-10 months! Lol Once I looked at the PS5 stats being so lackluster, I finally built a PC.

Yeah broke bois

And probably a owner of an inferior build as well

@@DRex45 ???

Yeah.... APU that has 350w+ for the GPU and 150w for CPU is kinda hard to cool. :D

BG 3 was the best selling game on Xbox, it never cracked top 20 on the PS5. Even though Xbots don't play games?

fr bro ive seen them keep claming gta 6 like its some exclusive game bro its funny as hell.

​@@chrism8860well that's because the Bg3 isn't a 3rd person action adventure with light stealth and rpg elements.

@@joeallen3388 With heavily pre-rendered cutscenes and quick time events

Console fanboys remind me of wokeists, which is funny because both will use anything as a vehicle for their ideology. You cannot disagree or oppose them without facing personal attacks. You cannot blaspheme, or you will be punished. You have to fanatically support their cult, or you are deemed a bad person. You are not allowed to think independently; you must blindly follow and agree with them.

eh... number of polygons rendered vs pixels output isn't really a good comparison. polygons rendered and processed determine how detailed the shape of game models can be. has nothing to do with how the picture is presented on the the screen by pixel count. pixel count determines how detailed the skins of the models can be. completely different.

@@aarlavaan 75 million polygons on screen at a time is still a grossly inaccurate and dishonest statement for Sony to have made about their PlayStation 2 though. Those detailed skins on the PS2 were simply texture maps, just like what was used by programmers for the original Xbox and the Xbox 360. Sony also claimed that the PlayStation 2 could create the same level of computer graphics used in Hollywood blockbusters in real time, even though the million dollar Silicon Graphics workstations used by Hollywood for those movies couldn't do it in real time. Again, Sony hyped their unreleased and upcoming hardware with claims which were an insult to anyone who understood computer graphics, as well as to anyone who spent a few moments running Sony's claims through the filter of common sense. So my original point still stands.

@@hidarimak again, you are conflating the texture maps with the polygon count. Those are two different things. The texture maps will look more or less detailed or nice based on the pixel count of the output, and the pixel density and size of the screen the lower the oven count the more image fidelity is lost. But it has nothing to do with polygon count. At all. The polygon count determines how smooth or detailed the models UNDERNEATH those texture maps are. Want to make a rock more bumpy, smooth, or jagged? It needs more polygons. Want to make a circle more round? Needs more polygons. the average ps2 game shows on screen between 16 and 50 MILLION polygons at any given time. So saying the console could handle up to 75 million isn't unreasonable. As for the claims of Hollywood movies... I would want to see a source. And depending on if they were talking about ore rendered cinematics or game play. Because those are handled in different ways. Remember, your Blu-ray player doesn't have a gpu in it, but displays crisp 4k images just fine. It's merely reading the info rather than calculating it. They being said, yes, all companies hype up their products to be better then they really are. The Xbox One was powerful enough to display all of observable space. Did it mean anything? Not really. But it sounds cool.

@@aarlavaan Again, saying that any PS2 game was throwing around 75 million polygons per second in game at a time is dishonest. There are multiple games and gaming engines which have been promoted by the inclusion of how many polygons were being handled per frame or per second, which is one way to gauge the accuracy of Sony's statement. Compare the promoted specs of other rendering hardware of its time such as the GeForce 3, and see how the best PS2 games compare in performance. Various sources I've checked have stated that the PS2 could handle up to 66 million polygons if it's just displaying polygons, but in game it's limited to 5-6 million polygons per second. I did see one source (Unity Forum) state that the PS2 could handle up to 20 million polygons at a time though. Sony stated that the performance gap between the PS1 and the Dreamcast would be as great as the performance gap between the Dreamcast and the PS2. But what the PS2 delivered during the first two years on the market was pretty much on par with what the Dreamcast did during its own first two years. So, again, over-hype. As to the statement of the PS2 producing Hollywood level CG in real time, it was from various interviews conducted by the print gaming mags of the time, back when online console gaming news wasn't the main attraction like it is today. This was prior to the launch of the console itself though. And as to your example, Blu-ray players are said to play various quality videos (4k/60, HDR10, etc). I have yet to see a player promoted as creating the world that you see in the videos though.

Not even the ps7 lmao

I don't know that I'd make assumptions like that since you don't know when it's coming out

@@jamieo8840 the ps7 will come out in 2036 and it will be stronger than the 2090!!

If your PC is so much better than the console why do have to beg for our games. Sony doesn’t owe you Bloodborne. If your platform is so much better just keep playing that Dota 2 and CSgo

@@Hono1256Why are you babbling about exclusives? These comments are talking about the performance difference in hardware, not games 😂😂

These ponies are living with their parents, they would be kicked out after the electricity bill drops. :D

I remember that years ago, fritanga debated Jaytechtv. God that was beyond awfull😂

nobody actually believes that their consoles are better than pcs, they say that because people are stupid enough to get angry at it and then they get views. these “sony fanboys” yall be talking about don’t exist. actual fans of the consoles recognize they are entirely different from pc’s in every way.

SSDs on the PC market couldn't even be used on the PS5 when the console released because they weren't fast enough. We had to wait until 4th gen fast SSD became a thing. So yeah PC had SSD but when the PS5 launched it clearly had faster storage speeds and even now it beats most PC's with gen 4 SSDs because it has a dedicated cheap on handling SSD data transfer to CPU and GPU etc.

@@SIPEROTH Huh? There are no "gens" in SSD.

I don't think you need trust me bro to believe that. Anyone can pretty much see that with all the leaks etc. Obviously is close on release and with Sony booking a place at the Tokyo Game show when they haven't be present at any events for years is obviously a clear indicator that they booked a place to announce the PS5 Pro.

Pretty obvious why. Because you can have a good time still playing on your PS4 and many of the titles released on PS5 got PS4 versions and most third party titles still get PS4 versions so the PS4 users don't feel they need to upgrade to not lose out that much yet. On top of that console gamers are sensitive to paying. They like milking what they got before throwing cash for new hardware. They only do it when they feel that what they got is now too old and irrelevant which the PS4 still isn't. Especially the users that bought a PS4 Pro bought a console not that long ago that still does 4K upscaled so it was too fast to jump on a PS5 and they probably rather wait for a PS5 Pro and more rich game library when more games not on PS4 drop. Other than that there are other factors like covid making many normal console buyers not able to buy a PS5 the first 2-3 years. And if you didn't buy one at that time then you think: "Why buy one now and not wait for a discount or a PS5 Pro?". Not being able to buy the newer consoles also made most developers make versions of their games play on older consoles and that made the new for the new hardware feels less urgent as well.

They are broke, I have 2 gaming pcs, a ps5, and nintendo switch.

its ragebait you dunce

It's a pretty average game. Even with the media trying to hype it up and manipulate the scores, most people accept that this is a very average game at best.

​​@@phbranding8530I'd actually say it's not as good as spiderman 1.

Imagine being a PC gamer talking about what's a flex or not. How about y'all make y'all own shit

@@DRex45 We do make our own, they're called Indie games.

@@theamazingjack3039 and them shits are trash

I think it's possible to turn your last point into a strength for consoles. Bring able to upgrade whenever is very nice, but for consoles you never really need to. Most of the games people want to play run at the very least fine on them and since modern console generations last so long now, you could easily squeeze 8-10 years out of them. Ps4 is still getting new games even after 11 years on the market. If you bought a ps4 in 2013 and never upgraded, you got your money's worth and then some

Ive read it comes out holiday 2024 but ive also heard something about a chip going into tvs that will allow people to play video games with out a console or.pc but idk

Most pc players would take 1080p 144 fps over 4k 60 fps any day of the week. 60 vs 144 is just such an incredible difference🤣

@@luukherfst1209 Personally, I'll take 1440p over 4K and 1080p, but that's because I find 1440p the perfect middle ground between FPS and Visual Quality.

​@@Xyler94you can have 4k and a high frame rate. No need for middle ground with pc

⁠​⁠@@luukherfst1209 I think you’re just being a frame rate snob personally. It MAJORLY depends on the game, majorly.

I'm new to pc gaming and my pc has a $700 CAD amd graphics card in it but I'm curious did I make a bad choice in general? My pc seems to run nicely so I'm hoping I didn't make a bad choice lol

​@@WIld-cHILd-1273What's your gpu and resolution?

@gamingcomputers7485 hmm, I'll have to message here later tonight since I'm in the process of moving into a new house lol but I'm doing one haul and I'm gunna start organizing and unpacking my pc and stuff, it'll be around a few hours give or take to give you that answer

@gamingcomputers7485 I been looking around online and checking my pc but I'm not exactly sure how to check the gpu & resolution, only thing I could find is my total available graphics memory is at 32,335, I don't know If my answer helps lol

@@WIld-cHILd-1273 to find what specs your pc has you can do a couple of things. first, open start menu and type in "about your pc". click this. this should tell you at least what cpu you have as well as how much RAM you have. the next way you can check is through task manager. open up your start manager and type "task manager". click this. click the tab labeled "performance. this will bring up different sections on the left side of the window labelled CPU, memory, disk, ethernet, wi-fi, and gpu. click on gpu. on the upper right hand side of the window it will show the name of your gpu. the last way is open start menu and type "device manager". click this. you will be given a list of devices or device types. click on display adapter. this will show you the name of your gpu. to find the monitor resolution, right click on your desktop and click display settings. this will show you what your monitor is set to and capable of.

That is not true. Games come in different flavors on their hardware demands. Some games are more CPU heavy while others rely more on the GPU. The second kind will certainly benefit in every aspect including framerates and the majority of games is actually the second type. The CPU heavy games will be more like you say with minimal frame improvements. Also PS5 Pro will use that new advance upscale algorithm that Sony has been working for some time now and i imagine that will give some great boost since it will be able to keep quality image at higher resolutions with same frame rate as low resolutions. When a normal PS5 uses FSR the quality clearly drops but now with the new Sony algorithm that won't be the case so is like having more power than the hardware you have.

@@SIPEROTHTake this up with Digital Foundry, who said exactly what I said

@@homernoy No they didn't. I saw them talking about this and what they said is not that at all. You just took what you wanted out of what they said.

@SIPEROTH Dude, I'll save this conversation, and I'll be back after the Pro is released. Raytracing will be massively improved, visual fidelity will be improved. Framerate will slightly improve. You don't seem to understand that RDNA 3 (PS5 Pro GPU architecture) has been out on PC since 2022, and it doesn't contain any hardware upscaling chips like Nvidias Tensor cores, so don't expect DLSS quality upscaling. Without hardware upscaling, it's a software solution like FSR. Machine learning, again like Nvidia will be impossible.

@@homernoy Better remember to be back. Because you will quickly see that some games will have minor framerate improvements while others will have quite big ones. Also this is not PC. As the Sony guy himself said, the good about a console is that we as the manufacturer can do what we want with it. RDNA3 doesn't have 3D sound chips either. Sony already made a chip for their new upscaling tech. They don't need RDNA 3 to do it. It will be as good as DLSS.

It's a channel made with fake voices and avatar and created to milk views for some easy cash so is meant to say hype things and exaggerations to get views. Really the sad part is that guy is bothering replying. Debunking such a channel means nothing because that channel doesn't represent anyone other the person trying to make some easy extra cash.

@@SIPEROTH This is the internet. Everyone is screaming into a void and accomplishing nothing. Even this comment is just a quick distraction. We all know this is stupid, but we're not pretending to be academics. Let us be stupid and pointless for a moment before we return to work and the grind.

Umm, do you know how consoles/pcs work? An SSD won’t run anything faster except installations and load times, not to mention the PS5 already has a fine enough SSD.

imma laugh like the joker if that happens 😁

@@lowclasswarrior9269 I mean sony themselves never even announced it soooooooo 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@mxxicvnphxnk 💯💯them sony boys onn that copium fr 😵‍💫😵‍💫 so glad i went with a steamdeck

It would actually be a shrewd business move to cancel this hardware release. This thing is going to lose a lot of money, and will not sell to any new customers. Can they turn this ship before it hits the iceberg?

glad your not playing fallout 1 eww

@@chaserseven2886 what's wrong with Fallout 1, i thought it was pretty good

It’s basically equal to an AMD RX?6700

​@crestofhonor2349 that's what digital foundry said tho the 6700 xt is still a great card i was once with a discord a guy with a 3070 in his pc said tge ps5 is better rx 6700 xt/rtx 3070/rx 6750 xt dude said its performing like an rx 6800.

@@crestofhonor2349 When the PS5 was measured against GPUs with an equivalent (+/-) CPU, Gamers Nexus determined the PS5 most closely matched to a PC with a Ryzen 7 3700x with an Nvidia 1070 GPU, but with some RT cores tossed in. Honestly it’s negligible considering RT is garbage on consoles. Nearly any game you test with RT done right, PC has far better reflections and shadows. The consoles are basically using PC RT set to low quality.

@@gamingcomputers7485 um except that is not what digital foundry said. When they covered the PC port of AC Valhalla they said through the pc graphics option and finding the ps5 equivalent they discovered the ps5 is basically a 2070 super at best.

@@zeedude8026 You're talking about one game. Digital Foundry did a whole comparison against the RX 6700 and many of their tests for the equivalent system are using a RX6700 now. The Valhalla test was done nearly 3 years ago now

Theres a gulf in price between fast storage and HDD. Consoles dont even use HDD anymore. Old tech

To be fair, PS5 does have a NVME SSD slot. So you can swap out memory really easily with whatever size ya want. Hell, years ago I even swapped out my HDD in the PS4 Pro to a 2tb 2.5" SSD and it ran easily twice as fast. So it's definitely not hard or super expensive unless the market is just hiked up. Buddy of mine who did buy a PS5 threw in a Silcapower 6tb NVME in like 5min. But I'm definitely far more happier with my 25tb in my PC Lol

​ @GrySgtBubba wow. thats some serious storage there... personally, i partitioned my storage in two section: one dedicated for games, and the other for utilities... names aside, the utility part is for software, downloaded films, music, etc. how do you use your storage ? :)

@@GrySgtBubba ya gotta remember, we're comparing nvme with HDD here so its not really fair to compare a 2tb nvme to 20tb of HDD when theres a huge difference in price. Thats all I was getting at

@@chrissyboy7047 I mean, seeing as ssd's only come in 4tb and some 6tb for hundreds of dollars, with like 1 or 2 8tb's coming in at over a grand usd...a $300 20tb hdd doesn't sound bad 🤣 When ssd's come in 10-20tb for round $500...then we can honestly argue ssd's are superior. But 800-1000 bucks for just 8tb is just stupid.

Dumbest comment made. Even Digital foundry would take a dump in your mouth from this statement

The 4090 is definitely not a scam. It's the cheapest production card you can get.

You can not deny it’s power. This card is insane. The price point that’s……. Yeah Oef

The graphics achievable with the card shows it’s not a scam

Yeah, no. I run a 4090 for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. For what I want, the 4090 is necessary.

@@GhostsGraphics It's not. It's vastly overpriced because it don't have any actual professional "production" values. It's got lots of VRAM, but its gimped by its FP64 capabilities so that Nvidia can sell you a Quadro instead. And the "studio drivers" aren't anything special for RTX cards, it's just a driver that doesn't get "game ready" drivers.

Fr?

Then why do gaming PC's cost around 2k from what I hear ?

​@@Glitchedpixel5the best pc experience costs 2000 plus but the best console experience is only 350 used

​@@Glitchedpixel5because the console zealots have no idea what things actually cost.

I haven’t seen that from any budget builds

What does this mean?

@@Joshy_Poo Sarcasm, it means it's not

@@s3rit661 Okay, got it. I was just confused what your comment was saying in general, I couldn’t tell if you were saying if a $500 console was better or worse than a $2000 gpu. Also, RTX 4090 doesn’t really go for $2000, it normally goes for somewhere around $1500. I don’t even think it’s MSRP was $2000.