PS5 vs. Xbox Series X Airflow Testing: Cooling Design Efficiency & Flow Paths

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This video compares the PlayStation 5 vs. Xbox Series X airflow & cooler design using Schlieren photography, which allows us to visualize the air density gradient around the consoles.
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Watch our PlayStation 5 thermal testing from previously: • Weak Cooler Design: Pl...
Xbox Series X thermals got done today and is being edited/rendered/QC'd, then will go up.
Watch our original RTX 3080 FE Schlieren photography video: • Airflow Imaging: NVIDI...
Schlieren photography is useful for visualizing air patterns and movement when the air density has a gradient -- or a change in density -- surrounding a product. This isn't a perfect testing method and doesn't tell us thermal performance (we use thermocouples for that, and the Series X thermals will be uploaded in a few days), but it does tell us how the air exits the consoles, how obstructed it might be, and what directions it takes. This also allows us to the opportunity to closer analyze the console's internal heatsink design: Even though we can't see the heatsink with this imaging, we can see how the air exits the device and at what angle, and speed, and all of these factors allow us to better understand the finstack impedance and angles. The Sony PlayStation 5 already had thermal testing in one of our previous pieces, with the Xbox Series X thermals coming up soon.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Xbox Series X & PlayStation 5 Airflow
03:12 - Setting Up for Schlieren Imaging
05:24 - Xbox Airflow Patterns
10:36 - Xbox Flow Patterns (Continued)
11:42 - Xbox Intake Flow Patterns
14:50 - Xbox Series X Airflow Patterns: Side Vent
17:21 - Xbox Series X Thermals - Power Off
19:55 - PlayStation 5 Airflow Patterns
23:33 - PlayStation 5 - Side Orientation
24:55 - Conclusion
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Editorial, Testing: Steve Burke
Schlieren Setup, Video: Andrew Coleman
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@GamersNexus 3 года назад

Please consider supporting this type of unique testing work by grabbing a toolkit, mouse mat, bar runner, or shirt from our store: store.gamersnexus.net/ - thanks to our Patreon backers (patreon.com/gamersnexus ) and store customers for making it possible to buy testing equipment like this! Watch our PlayStation 5 thermal testing from previously: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MmggkW6usmQ.html Xbox Series X thermals got done today and is being edited/rendered/QC'd, then will go up. Watch our original RTX 3080 FE Schlieren photography video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VVaGRtX80gI.html

@gurgleblaster2282 3 года назад

So what your telling me is drill = more fps 🤣😂

@adamsvette 3 года назад

Can u link the video you talk about with how the thingy is all set up? You said you would link it in the description but its not there

@Jahee-Official 3 года назад

If you uncompress gasses, it turns cold. How was the non-burned gasses from the torch considered hot?!? Explain this plz.

@randomgamer6118 3 года назад

@@Jahee-Official its cold. Because its colder than room temp, there is a difference/gradient, therefore it can be seen in the camera

@Jahee-Official 3 года назад

@@randomgamer6118 That's my whole point. GN keeps calling it hot gasses.

@KBMamba0824 3 года назад

Microsoft had explained that the smaller vent towards the top is there in case somebody accidentally covers up the main vent (with the big fan) and blocks it.

@GamersNexus 3 года назад

Thanks! Can you link a source for that? It'd be helpful to see what else they said in that content.

@mr.smooth7809 3 года назад

@@GamersNexus I think I heard this on Austin Evans pre-release coverage of it.

@red2432 3 года назад

@@mr.smooth7809 so you’re quoting stuff you’re not sure of? Welcome to 20xx where we don’t bother to check sources

@mr.smooth7809 3 года назад

@@red2432 I Didn't quote shit

@MS07B3-G0UF 3 года назад

@@red2432 source or not common sense would tell you that’s what it’s there for 🤷🏼‍♂️ literally can’t cover both without it being on purpose

@stuartlunsford7556 3 года назад

Steve, I'm pretty sure the MAP gas is not hot, it's typically colder than ambient due to state change. I'd bet the gas being visible in this use case is due to the gas itself having significantly different density than the air, thus giving you the density gradient that can be imaged.

@stuartlunsford7556 3 года назад

And of course the gas being cooler would also create a density gradient.

@mduckernz 3 года назад

Exactly. I'm glad someone else noticed this! You'd see the difference regardless of whether the torch had been run recently or not. Methyl acetylene and propane have significantly different density than air, at room temperature or not! (and if it is being released from a pressurised cylinder, it's gonna be lower than room temperature due to the pressure drop effect)

@pravda9646 3 года назад

Ok good im not the only one. I thought he was gonna say "the gas is cold but not as strong" but then I just accepted I was wrong about how gas works lol

@hectorj.romanp. 3 года назад

Certainly. 'Bottled' gas is pressurized and, therefore, is cold.

@rehpotsirhc123 3 года назад

Anyone who does whip-its knows how cold expanding gas can get :P

@M0j0 3 года назад

During an earlier look at the hardware, an MS engineer mentioned that the hole on the side of the fan is there as an emergency exhaust escape just in case something was to be placed on top, such as a game case 👍 Awesome insight guys, thanks!

@mash2481 3 года назад

Series X is the most quiet console I’ve owned, except for Nintendo’s old cartridge consoles.

@jasephase2k933 3 года назад

Ps4 or pro is if know what your doing when repasteing still can't understand complaints about ps4 or pro soundding like jet engines after repasteing.ive maintained both my glacier white ps4 & pro after 3 years of usage both sounded like a jetengine when fan ramped up after carefully maintaining cleaning not rushing & cleaning chip and preparing chip to apply thermal paste both was quiet

@Mazgic 3 года назад

@@jasephase2k933 which Manz gonna be applying thermal paste en sheet. We want silent but violent from the box.

@abombfletcher 3 года назад

@@jasephase2k933 The fact you have to "Maintain" a console is a joke... Bad build quality obviously on the ps4

@jasephase2k933 3 года назад

@@abombfletcher bad build is the easyest on a repair perspective hasnt got a xclamp

@abombfletcher 3 года назад

@@jasephase2k933 If your talking about 360 xclamp you have no point...a couple generations off for comparison......The Day one oneX was loud ass hell, Yes... But every console after was super quiet... Sony had some new versions that you still felt the need to "maintain" its loudness.... Didnt have to take apart my xboxes ever hehe

@kevinwise5128 3 года назад

This video looks like a lot of smoke and mirrors.

@ElZamo92 3 года назад

BRUH...

@killertruth186 3 года назад

Lol.

@g4meboy13 3 года назад

I hate you and love you

@MrLince-hr4of 3 года назад

...like polititions...

@0thers1d3 3 года назад

You win. Gamers Nexus better like your comment.

@T4gProd 3 года назад

Oh man, even though I'm almost 100% a PC Gamer, I've been waiting for this video. This is super interesting!

@kaleidoskope4314 3 года назад

What's the other couple percent? I mostly play on PC my self but also like my Nintendo games. PC and a Switch is a good combo imo. The best of both worlds. You get the most iconic exclusives and on PC the crushing hardware.

@phantoslayer9332 3 года назад

@@blitzwing1 I actually have a series x and I’d say it has nice raw horsepower and a super premium, microatx pc tower look

@chriswright8074 3 года назад

@@kaleidoskope4314 pokemon and mario needs to go

@ZackSNetwork 3 года назад

@@chriswright8074 🤦🏽

@ChumpyChicken2 3 года назад

@@phantoslayer9332 raw power that still is behind the PS5 in most tests.

@Flybyhacker 3 года назад

The depth and passion in this one just too good. Good Job Steve !

@nelsoncabrera6464 3 года назад

I remember an interview where a Microsoft engineer stated that the small vent was a sort of last resort exhaust so the system would have some cooling in case a game case or some other obstruction was placed on the main exhaust grille while the system was running.

@Gaming-Legends007 3 года назад

A game case has a larger surface area than the exhaust 👀 it will cover it all

@nelsoncabrera6464 3 года назад

@@Gaming-Legends007 The exhaust mini port is on the side of the console, it's impossible to cover it and the top main port with a game case at the same time .

@brandonenke2680 2 года назад

@@Gaming-Legends007 I know you said your goof comment 6 months ago but OOF... that is all

@foxorian 2 года назад

it's basically like the mini overflow drain in your bathroom sink.

@BogeyTheBear 2 года назад

So, it's a small thermal exhaust port, just below the main port... ...is it ray-shielded? I don't have any proton torpedoes left.

@evil_me 3 года назад

MSI sent their little spy to watch Steve I see.

@GamersNexus 3 года назад

He's been unearthed (again)!

@yakitatefreak 3 года назад

@@GamersNexus They know

@Jaksary 3 года назад

MSI smoke and mirrors :)

@killchicken123 3 года назад

@@GamersNexus So that by definition makes it a fossil of an extinct species?

@qfan8852 3 года назад

They haven't sent a bike, yet.

@SparkY0 3 года назад

"Something that would last us forever" **Until the cursed MSI Dragon seeks revenge

@vivekkanako7164 3 года назад

Shhh... Don’t tell Steve nothing lasts forever.

@anew742 3 года назад

unLucky the Dragon

@KevanTess 3 года назад

Its sitting in the mirror at the start.

@gus8426 3 года назад

I wouldnt be surprised if that dragon tries to stab him one day

@bryangomez3877 3 года назад

Thank you for taking the time to make these technical deep-dive videos!!

@thetechguyz8645 3 года назад

Hats off to you guys for experimenting with this type of imaging. I love seeing this kind of stuff from youtubers.

@sircoynie 3 года назад

The slot on the back of the Series X is a thermal safety measure for the possibility of someone putting something like a game case on top of the Xbox blocking the main exhaust. Microsoft detailed this during their launch campaign.

@YouTubeCensors 3 года назад

Yup. Good memory, too often people forget the details

@Mr.Genesis 3 года назад

They even designed the Xbox one like this.. Thermal issues were a problem in 2006 during RROD ever since the Xbox 360S console they almost NEVER overheated.. I've left my 360 and One on for DAYS with the top vents blocked and nothing happened

@deepergodeeper7618 3 года назад

@@Mr.Genesis lol are you nuts lol the xbox 360 was really bad for over heating

@Mr.Genesis 3 года назад

@@deepergodeeper7618 you mean the ORIGINAL 360.. the one that was redesigned and then replaced because of said issues.. :) i did say the 360S. Try reading next time.

@termitreter6545 3 года назад

@@Mr.Genesis It gets confused cuz you said you left your 360 blocked and it didnt overheat.

@elcsie5679 3 года назад

Background subtraction and intensity normalization might give you an improved view of the density gradients.

@GamersNexus 3 года назад

Thanks for the idea!

@aviverde9031 3 года назад

pants might be blue at 5 o clock orange is eaten bus drives uphill XD

@SimonPass230267 3 года назад

This is brilliant work. Well done Steve to you and the team. Very useful.

@danielhowell2967 3 года назад

I don't know exactly how I came across this video but so glad I did. Really interesting and different from the usual RU-vid stuff I come across. Subscribed

@TrailFeatures 3 года назад

Steve: "This is not a thermal test." Internet: "Look at this thermal test!

@Mr28d23 3 года назад

He repeats it a bunch of time throughout the video.

@justinsaned8865 3 года назад

@@Mr28d23 the problem isn't with Steve, it's the "internet"

@cvdvds 3 года назад

If the equipment didn't cost so much, I'd wager they'd have stopped doing these tests already because there are so many fucking dumbasses that can't listen to a word he's saying.

@thealien_ali3382 3 года назад

People: waaaa poop in brain

@baloo5621 3 года назад

The hole just below the main exhaust is to allow some airflow even if the top is covered by someone accidentally. It was mentioned in the teardown with digital foundry.

@teamgt1981 3 года назад

You are correct!

@FutureNaught 3 года назад

It's similar to those holes in the sides of sink basons that prevent water overflow in the event of a drain blockage.

@Slay1337pl 3 года назад

I can imagine the internal design presentation, everyone's looking at how nice the model looks, and then one of the engineers unceremoniously puts a book on top of it.

@stale2665 3 года назад

I can't imagine the tiny hole would be sufficient if a book was put on top of it. It's going to get significantly hotter in there, but because of the tiny hole, the console might still be operational, even if it's degrading more rapidly. Perhaps a better solution would be to just let the console reach its thermal shutdown limit, then give the user a warning when it turns on again, telling them to remove obstructions from the exhaust vent. Or just significantly throttle the CPU before it happened, and pop up a full-screen warning message that can't be clicked away until the temperature is back to normal.

@whothou 3 года назад

@@stale2665 I'm pretty sure all modern consoles have some sort of thermal adjustments or shut down sequence if it gets to hot... The hole is just there so you don't reach that point as quickly I'm pretty sure

@NeoMorphUK 3 года назад

I think the extra slot is an emergency thermal exhaust if someone puts something on the top of the case in vertical mode.

@stianlitland 3 года назад

Thank you for making this videos while beeing so diligent and enthusiastic with a sprincle of crazy. 10/10 love it!

@jabreakit2311 3 года назад

"A really cool video" hehe

@thomasgiles2876 3 года назад

Its got a nice flow to it

@ElZamo92 3 года назад

Puntastic

@jrsomethingnumbers9704 3 года назад

Steve is gonna get some real HEAT from the FANS in this one.

@kayburcky7146 3 года назад

@@jrsomethingnumbers9704 You could say he gets the heat of the moment ;P

@DomoKuchikan 3 года назад

It's nice to see Steve excited about playing with the new toys. Especially when he doesn't have to use those toys on CPU's and GPU's 😀

@hi_tech_reptiles 3 года назад

Killer video guys! Love this stuff. Fascinating.

@LarsBars17 3 года назад

This content is amazing. You guys are one of a kind. Can't wait for the series S analysis!

@FinFET 3 года назад

If anyone is interested in experimenting with schlieren images, there is a way to do this on the cheap, requiring only some basic image processing: synthetic schlieren or BOS schlieren. Basically, you use a background with a texture and then subtract it from the frames. The only thing is that the sensitivity is lower, but still fun to do, even made a video about it using python and openCV.

@vg4902 3 года назад

This is why I love GN, such interesting content. I'm waiting on Steve's human exhaust Schlieren airflow video comparison!

@xsteveconwayx 3 года назад

So... farting on a mirror?

@vg4902 3 года назад

@@xsteveconwayx More like across the front. 😄

@TheRaidenRaiden 3 года назад

"Cheaper" and "Ebay" in the same sentence sounds like a joke, nowadays.

@ahyaan2552 3 года назад

True

@anasb2273 3 года назад

eBay is not cheaper than another websites. boom it makes sense now doesn't it???????????????????????????????????

@ediodimacaroni 3 года назад

I would much rather use ebay than amazon

@ahyaan2552 3 года назад

@@ediodimacaroni yeah can't blame you

@TheRaidenRaiden 3 года назад

@@ediodimacaroni I prefer Amazon when buying certain items (like electronics in general) only because of its return policy which is completely hassle-free if you don't consider external vendors.

@munem939 3 года назад

I'm greatly looking forward to your future case reviews with this new fancy mirror!

@matts9240 3 года назад

I wish I could give more likes for this video because it really demonstrates how the air flow works on these consoles and gives owners an idea of a safe way to orient them in their entertainment centers. I have my series x positioned behind my tv vertically so it has plenty of room to breathe.

@AxisCorpsRep 3 года назад

first is: we used a mirror to see the air density then: we used a ziptie to tear trough space and time

@jannclaudebinoya 3 года назад

The verge: we used thermal paste to overclock our ram

@kontoname 3 года назад

Or a plastic screw :P

@lewislu8533 3 года назад

“dont block the bottom intake vents”, well, since the hdmi ports are right next to it, I can't see a case where someone will face that side of Xbox down toward the table...

@mjc0961 3 года назад

Never underestimate human stupidity.

@andresacosta5318 3 года назад

*builds custom cabinet that lets the hdmi ports in and blocks off everything else*

@stevendarkstalker 3 года назад

Remember gorilla glue...

@sporemaster97 3 года назад

@@cuy50 Still wouldn`t sit flush, and would hinder airflow, not block it off completely

@jillianangell2570 3 года назад

@@stevendarkstalker that poor woman

@FabiVoltair 3 года назад

This is why GN is my most beloved channel on RU-vid! Fantastic work! Super interesting

@CerebralTiger 3 года назад

Great video. Curious to see how the 3 different PS5 cooling fan variants compare in terms of airflow. Just putting it out there, in case you get a hold of PS5s with Nidec and Delta fans (the one in your video is NMB).

@Baja555b 3 года назад

Im an engineer so i figured i would give some input. First, i do think you did this very well and appreciate what you have done here as no other reviewer does these tests. First, that odd slot in the top you said was for acoustics. I wonder if it might be a sort of fail safe where if some genius sets a box on top of the exhaust, the console isn't completely starved. Not that it would be an efective exaust, it would still thermal throttle like crazy, but it could save it from death. That could be a different explanation. The way to test this is to simply place a box on the exhaust and see how it reacts. Im not completely sold on your explanation of the convexity of the top being the culprit for the converting exaust airflow. I have a decent amound to experience with aerodynamics and that would be acting in a way that i wouldn't expect. I suspect it could be from the rotation induced by the spinning of the fan. But this theory has holes as well. One text i would like to see if possible, is a repeat of the hot power off test that you did with the xbox on the side, but with the console standing upright. This would somewhat show the effectiveness of the updraft cooling, which could give ideas for passivly cooled systems that are better than what is currently available. Final thought, one reason i suspect the fan is so far away from the exhaust vent of the xbox is to reduce noise. When a propeller balde spins too close to something perpendicular to it, like the holes in the grill, it creats a audible pulse. This can be fixed by moving the blades farther from the grill. This isnt genneraly seen with computers and the things close to the fan are rather thin so are not all to affected by this. But the grill on the xbox, which seems to be half a inch in some places, would definitely be affected. Anyhow, thank you for making this. Without you, it just wouldn't be seen as it just takes a lot of equipment.

@ruukinen 3 года назад

The gas converging is pretty easily explained like Steve did by the fact that the holes are deeper to the sides than in the middle. The outer edge guides the gas more than the inner edge of a hole. Honestly hard to explain without visualization for me but draw random lines from the fan out side the case and you will see that those that would stray further from the middle hit the edges while the ones aimed from the edge towards the middle pass. The ones that pass basically get directed by the rest of the gas going straight up/towards the middle of the flow.

@OdiumTV 3 года назад

*according to a microsoft engineer the hole in the back is there to save the console if somebody blocks the top vent by placing something on top*

@nickwallette6201 3 года назад

Is that the mouth hole out of which it screams like a scared R2D2?

@bigdorkification 3 года назад

I don't know how this isn't blatantly obvious.

@biscuitsntea421 3 года назад

@@nickwallette6201 it screams?? Lol that sounds super cool unfortunately my X is quieter than my heartbeat

@benscko 3 года назад

Very interesting video. I love it how much work you put in them

@jravenger4 3 года назад

Finally someone has tested it, been curious on what airflow would look like. Love it!

@TheNovaks47 3 года назад

One thing regarding the Series X shutdown : I noticed that the fan on mine will continue run at a very low RPM for several minutes after shutdown, especially after longer gaming sessions. It looks to me like temp monitoring and fan control continues after shutdown, until it reaches a threshold or maybe a set temp before allowing the fan to power off. This is while using the "Power Saver" shutdown option btw, not the quick start option.

@noneyabizz8337 11 месяцев назад

The previous X definitely does this as well

@Gretchen_Trouble 3 года назад

Oooh! I actually know this!! The exhaust hole in the back in for just in case the main exhaust port is blocked (I believe the example given was someone placing a book on the top of the xbox) it would still allow some airflow to avoid thermal damage. I heard this from a microsoft engineer walking through the system on a pre launch video.

@Gretchen_Trouble 3 года назад

I actually found it!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7Fjn4GRw8qE.html Austin Evans was talking with xbox principal designer Chris Kujawski back in March 2020.

@Howaboua 3 года назад

props for the one who filmed the product shot just past 25min mark.. so well lit it. looks like a render!

@Megaaleh 2 года назад

Man! That content is amazing! Keep up the good work. I would like to see the airflow video and temperature measurements on the Xbox Series S as well.

@filip9587 3 года назад

I love the science and thermal cooling engineering that went in making the Series X into a cuboid, and I love the way it's designed to use 1 huge and powerful fan at the top instead of the bottom, giving it a better thermal exhaust design.

@mduckernz 3 года назад

Steve, the MAPP gas will show up regardless of whether the torch has been lit recently; its usefulness in imaging is not from it being hot. It's just because the gas mixture is a different density to air, simply because of its chemical composition (methyl acetylene and propane is rather different to mostly nitrogen and oxygen, after all) ! ... also, it may actually be slightly cooler than air because of the pressure drop effect, as it is being decompressed from a high pressure cylinder, cooling the gas. Both the inherent gas density difference and the lower temperature of it (producing more density difference) are the reason why it is useful in imaging for you :)

@klugeskind90 3 года назад

Nowadays MAPP is actually just propylene. Your point is still correct of course.

@mduckernz 3 года назад

@@klugeskind90 Most of it is, yeah, although it is still possible to buy genuine methylacetylene - propane gas mixture... it's just not over the counter in semi mainstream shops anymore sadly :( (I've been able to get it from welding supply shops) Good point nonetheless. Still, as you note, propylene is still a different density to air :)

@mduckernz 3 года назад

@@klugeskind90 Again your point is well made, and sparks more ideas in me: I suggest Steve just uses another kind of bottled gas for intake gas imaging... maybe something non flammable for safety's sake, so perhaps argon, which is readily available, including in disposable cylinders even. Argon would work really well actually given its high density, lots of contrast! And totally inert of course, hence its use in TIG welding for which it is typically sold (as well as a blanketing gas in oxygen-sensitive chemistry!) :)

@BlackSmokeDMax 3 года назад

@@mduckernz argon is exactly what i was thinking as he was running a highly flammable gas through a heated, contained area. I didn't actually think there was much of a chance for ignition, but you never know when a spark could be released if something unrelated went wrong at just the wrong time!

@Dwarg91 3 года назад

@@mduckernz or if they need something small and hand held, they could use canned “air” as the refrigerant used in them should provide a good temperature gradient.

@iambobbycrash 3 года назад

Very cool. Awesome to get an indepth look at the air flow.

@EXPERIMENTONGOD 3 года назад

I love that you guys actually use most (all?) of the services from your sponsors so the recommendation actually makes sense. No sellout bullshit.

@loniganl.9672 3 года назад

Thank you so much for this, i've been searching for the ps5's best orientation (not for thermal but airflow). This helped me feel at ease to leave it horizontally.

@tapetwo7115 Год назад

Make sure you use the official stand for any position. Horizontal or vertical.

@davidzrescalante503 3 года назад

I'm just impressed how the Xbox and ps5 didn't come alive and punch each other on his table.

@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 года назад

I just pictured both consoles transforming into Rock'em Sock'em robots and pummeling each other thanks to YOU! 😂😂😂😂😂

@jarodatkinson5306 3 года назад

That's so funny... made me laugh a lot... You definitely win the internet for today...

@davidzrescalante503 3 года назад

Aye psycho that's exactly what I was picturing too my guy haha.

@davidzrescalante503 3 года назад

@@jarodatkinson5306 and you win a lifetime of best wishes from me. Have a good day.

@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 года назад

@@davidzrescalante503 HAHAHAHAHA

@Utube2Itube Год назад

This video was very helpful as I’m just about to build in some fans into my multimedia cabinet. It confirms my planned placement of the fans.

@TheChudoviste 3 года назад

That is great!Now we can literally SEE the airflow in chasis tests!

@yoongilimerence 3 года назад

12:30 It's not that the gas is hot, it's actually denser than air of the same temp and that's why you can see it.

@draineddd 3 года назад

Loved this video, you should consider doing one of these for the Xbox Series S as well.

@Jaywarde82 2 года назад

This was a very good video and super informative. I’m replacing my thermal paste today and cleaning my PS4 pro since it’s at the year mark. Probably should clean it more often but oh well. Keep up the cool videos!

@cyrus05w 2 года назад

Thank you for this, it seems technology has come quite some in the last 10 years I have lots of learning to do now that I got a new device. Also thank you for your time in effort with all of this information previous and to come

@worldfamousgi86 3 года назад

Shoutout to smarter everyway for making it so that when I heard schlieren imaging I knew what he was talking about.

@Owlero 3 года назад

The Series X really could have benefitted from an extra centimeter of height to add a removeable dust filter on the bottom. It feels like a missed opportunity given it's unique vertical design.

@JasPlun Год назад

Well I am sure they thought of that, but when your trying to hit a certin price point you sometimes have to cut things out hat you might like to have had to get it where it needs to be:P

@zeniktorres4320 Год назад

I don't know why manufactures do not design in built-in air filters that can be easily replaced and cleaned. It's bad engineering.

@quangphung9396 Год назад

@@zeniktorres4320 they could legitimized another cash grab for that too, such a missed oppoturnity

@Orikix Год назад

1 cm means a lot when you are going to produce millions of them

@davesway1170 Год назад

This guy thinks he knows more than the highly educated experienced engineers that designed this with a footprint/budget in mind? crazy

@MichaelDFPV 3 года назад

Awesome. Looking forward to the thermal video. 👍

@holdenmcgroin1732 3 года назад

Thank for this video man, I have a little table fan blasting air right in from the back of my series x now.

@biscoitom 3 года назад

That is really high quality testing. Question: will you guys be testing the Series S in the same way?

@anotheridiotwind1201 3 года назад

Thank you for reinforcing that "hot air rises" is irrelevant to a computer case with active airflow.

@PhyrexianMetal 3 года назад

would love to see this process used on some of the cases y'all have reviewed prior to demonstrate how different case styles promote different kinds of airflow and how that influences thermals; all mesh itx like the NR200, negative pressure cases, and one or two h500 style mesh fronted tower. maybe the p500a or another top tier case as the control group? anyways, that seems like a good study to be able to reference in future vids

@noahconklin3584 3 года назад

Very cool and innovative testing methodology which I've come to expect from the NG team. Brilliant!

@MikeSaltzman 3 года назад

Vent above the fan on the side: Possibly an emergency vent in case someone puts something on top of the thing? Kind of like those backup drain valves in sinks and such. I dont think it would save the thing for long... but... still. Better than nothing?

@kaleidoskope4314 3 года назад

I thought the same thing when I seen that slit. An emergency vent in case some Neanderthal puts their iPad or something on top of the console.

@Slay1337pl 3 года назад

Still better airflow than that MSI case.

@SeanRLoh 3 года назад

That's the stated use of that slit as per Microsoft.

@arturpaivads 3 года назад

Yeah. I was thinking exactly that as I was seeing the exit. Otherwise the air would be 100% impeded. And there are people out there stupid enough to put a book on top of it. I think that without that exhaust basically the console would overheat immediately since there's NO airflow.

@AurumFaber 3 года назад

It's probably just to give it enough time to shut itself down or warn you to flip it back over.

@babis8142 3 года назад

I can't wait to see what you guys will be doing with Schlieren imaging in the future. PC cases? AIOs? CPU air coolers? This is extremely fascinating to me.

@wrahn 6 месяцев назад

This video deserves more views. Amazing content and advice!

@jagergerg9771 3 года назад

This is an excellent video I’m surprised I have not ran into this channel before. U got a sub from me

@TheAmmoniacal 3 года назад

The MAPP gas coming out of the canister is colder not hotter.

@Hidyman 3 года назад

Yeah. I think we are seeing the density gradient between the gasses.

@Tsinij 3 года назад

I mean it's going from a liquid state to a gas, so it's boiling. It's not hot nor warm in the traditional human-perception sense, but as mentioned it's mainly the differences in densities being utilized as a visual. If they wanted to use a less potentially flammable solution, I think a hot plate on low near the intakes might provide the needed heat.

@Tsinij 3 года назад

@@River_Miles Did you actually read my whole comment? I never indicated it was hot.

@Tsinij 3 года назад

@@River_Miles Glad you took a second look. Ice could introduce condensation, so my vote still goes to a heating element of some kind set relatively low. These components are better at mitigating and withstanding extremes of heat versus cold, etc.

@rbo7 3 года назад

@@Tsinij so you mention that its boiling for what? Why make that point to begin with? The point is, in the video he said he is using the hot gas of the non ignited torch, that is factually incorrect. That is what was being pointed out.

@Yantonio7 3 года назад

i have to say, one of my favorite videos guys :3

@1982markjm 3 года назад

This was really informative. Thanks!

@jacobrjager Год назад

Fluid dynamics is what it is all about. Air is technically a fluid that can be pushed around just like water or any other fluid. You're spot on in stating the orientation only matters in as much as you don't block intake or exhaust and you have a sufficiently fast enough fan...

@LCDqBqA Год назад

air isn't technically a fluid it is a fluid by definition...

@jacobrjager Год назад

@@LCDqBqA fluids are any substance that can have flow. Air is made of stuff, air particles, that are loosely held together in a gas form. Although liquids are the most commonly recognized fluids, gasses are also fluids. Since air is a gas, it flows and takes the form of its container.

@j.ballsdeep420 Год назад

@@LCDqBqA -- Gassed quite literally are an example of fluids. I believe you're thinking of the definition of liquids, which are also fluid, but not all fluids are liquid... like gases.

@TechyBen 3 года назад

GN: "All this was done using..." My Guess: "Magic" GN: "Sorcery" I was close. :P

@tylerm.9408 3 года назад

This is SO cool and unique. Well done!!

@sharrick1208 3 года назад

Love your mouse mat my friend even asked where I got it and I was able to point him your way and he watchs your channel now too

@oOSpecialProskillsOo 3 года назад

the gas fronn an unlit torch is cold, not hot. also thegas has a different density to the air

@damjanszabo 3 года назад

But is it safe to fill a room with propane tho?

@Reaper035 3 года назад

@@damjanszabo With propane you would need to fill the volume of the room to at least 2% with it. I'm going to say that this is quite unlikely to archive it this way. ;) (But they might get high earlier tho. haha)

@finiteunknowns 3 года назад

i see jensen couldnt resist buying an ad spot for his spatulas

@BRUXXUS 3 года назад

This is so fun to watch! My first guess of what that little exhaust slot is would be a last resort exhaust port in case the user completely blocked the top. Although, the acoustics theory seems pretty plausible as well.

@verbalpics 6 месяцев назад

This is a great look into the thermodynamics. Would have been great to see whether the 3rd party cooling solutions for the top or back vents actually help reduce temps, but I'm not sure if you have that in a separate video.

@antiflag46 Год назад

that concave design on the Xbox Series X promotes exhaust "scavenging" which allows the heat to escape at a higher velocity. pretty cool. The fan being countersunk down into that venturi allows it to create a proper vacuum inside the box as well no matter how clean or dirty it is.

@gabrielsmith4082 9 месяцев назад

I never see clean vacuum before 😅

@NoneRain_ 3 года назад

XSX: hot air from bottom to top, clean exhaust Playstation's memory at 100ºC: i like how the hot air is pushed down here

@thelarry383 3 года назад

*90ºC

@NoneRain_ 3 года назад

@@thelarry383 Nope. GN measured 94º, and said the actual memory is 5º-10º higher than that. So, 99º-104º is the correct temp (at 21º ambient). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MmggkW6usmQ.html

@Bruno_Laion 3 года назад

@@NoneRain_ oh thats hot

@Zarcondeegrissom 3 года назад

nothing like waking up to a good cup of coffee and a great Schlieren photography vid from GN. B) almost wonder how long before GN is doing Schlieren photography in computer case reviews to catalog how air is or is not flowing through cases. could probably do similar with tower coolers with the GPU off to the side on a fire-safe PCIe riser cable. just thinking out loud tho, this is cool stuff.

@keenanwolf3097 2 года назад

I'm definitely subscribing and liking the video keep it up guys

@FireStorm4056 3 года назад

Correction - It’s not the “heat” of the MAPP gas you’re seeing. Rather, MAPP gas itself is more dense than normal air. The density difference between the two gasses is what makes the visualization possible. You can tell because ALL of the MAPP gas falls (even the gas that doesn’t go to the intake). If the visualization were due to heat, we would see it rising rather than falling.

@grwlngbxr27STi 3 года назад

Yes, I cringed when he said that he was just letting heat of the bottle. Releasing a pressurized gas causes the gas to drop in temperature as it expands on exit.

@anotheridiotwind1201 3 года назад

If this weren't scripted we could let it go...

@serisak 3 года назад

As soon as he said it I went straight to the comments in the hope that someone corrected him.

@MrSvenroy 2 года назад

Would of been an interesting video if something shorted while he was passing the MAPP gas through the console.

@bdbgh 3 года назад

Any plans to use this technique to look at how cases vent hot air out? maybe for sff case reviews?

@AnImperfectSoul 3 года назад

Gonna redo the thermal test on that GDDR6 modules. Youre the only tester who got the thermals you got, everyone else was lower and consistent

@imawallass 3 года назад

This video made me realize I need to change our PS5's direction...it was just blowing hot air down at my PC intake. Keep up the good work Steve!

@justsomeperson5110 3 года назад

Awesome job! I think a lot of people probably underestimate how useful this info actually is. It shows the ultimate truth of real estate: location location location. LOL You might think you can just plop your consumer electronic anywhere and it'll run just fine, but you really have certain areas that you need to keep clear and certain areas that just don't matter, so you can block up. One thing that surprised me ... the ridiculously unoptimized airflow, especially the intake. Common sense would have said these devices are pushing their limits harder than ever, so they'd be designed to make the absolute most out of airflow. But ... no. They actually kinda suck. Or ... don't suck. Because their intakes are blocked. WTF?! I really would have expected better. Honestly, I kind of wonder how much of that is accidental and how much of it is intentional. Is this a planned obsolescence to choke the system with dust? I sure hope not! But it does kinda make one wonder why they wouldn't have designed intake better, and with an easily removed washable filter in place. Either way, it does kind of make me wonder if at this point there isn't an emerging market for re-casing these devices. Move the hardware from the stock case to a better design. I wonder how long until we see third-party cases come out for them.

@meateaw 3 года назад

You know what would be great for this? If you could super-impose a picture of the device you are imagine ontop of the "black" part of the image. This would allow us to more easily "visualise" the device in question. Obviously it doesn't make a huge difference for the xbox (which would just be a big black box in most orientations), but the playstation might be more obvious...

@thanos2420 3 года назад

Great work as always.👍

@Lets_get_wealthy 3 года назад

Gamers nexus always finding diferent ways of showing tech. Love this channel.

@crashbandicoot5636 3 года назад

I see that the Killshot is still in place, even the mirror is targeting MSi lol

@layton101101 3 года назад

That extra slot vent at the back of the console is for if a kid or someone runs it with the top covered. Confirmed by Microsoft.

@blyattacticool 3 года назад

Very interesting, merci pour ces vidéos de qualité avec des test poussés.

@kennuimuffins2426 3 года назад

Hey steve, you replied to a comment once. Hope you'll do more content like this, I really want to see how various coolers and component combos look in terms of airflow. I design SFF cases where it's perhaps more important compared to a spacious tower case setup.

@gameboy3800 3 года назад

GN: spends $1000s on obscure testing equipment to show air moving. Me, an intellectual: set it on fire to see smoke.

@mjc0961 3 года назад

It's an Xbox Series X, not an NZXT H1. :P

@VinegarAndSaltedFries 3 года назад

Great video...excited for the follow up. Wish we coulda seen the PS5 without the “lab coat” and the difference that makes on both intake and exhaust. Still amazing video.

@SkilllessFlorid3r 3 года назад

Nice Video as always :) The lighting in this one is bit to bright for my taste, maybe the placement of the lights and intensity could be tuned. And some light diffusers could help.

@idrinkbbq5927 3 года назад

Glad to see you’re finally using that Xbox you keep showing off! Btw if you dont have an Xbox series S for your thermal comparison video, if you need one Ive got one i wouldn’t mind lending you in the name of research, as I’m actually really curious to see what the thermals are like myself

@theshaggydogg2867 3 года назад

isn't the hole in the back of the series x a failsafe incase someone places something on top of the console? it's obviously not ideal exhaust but it's enough to keep your console from completely overheating.

@Diwasho 2 года назад

Good to know they thought of that, I usually put a cloth cover on top of my SX when it's not in use to prevent dust getting inside and on one occasion I forgot to remove it before starting a game session. Knowing that the back vent expelled at least some of the heat puts me a little at ease but I make sure not to repeat that mistake again.