You definitely get a strange sense of awareness that's for sure; you begin to do weird things. I remember driving the car one time with my wife and I refused to go down a particular street in my neighborhood, even though it was the correct way home; I was filled with this sense of dread and impending death. It's really hard to explain.
If any of y’all read this or other comments similar and they apply to you If any of y’all’s spouses said you got it and you knew better than them. Brother you got ptsd. Please don’t ignore it and get help. I put it off for a long long time and it cost me. Thank god it didn’t cost more like some of the other guys I’ve seen. Get help y’all. Get your help. There’s no shame in it.
My uncle does the same thing and his facial expressions change and suddenly he's looking at every treeline while driving his awareness kicks is it's a trip to see and it saddens me he goes through that. Always on guard
The hardest part is knowing that ur being delusional. Knowing that you are being “stupid” for no reason when everything is safe is hard. I was driving and someone set off a firework and absolutely lost my shit and parked/pulled .45 out and everything today and it reminded me of thise
I never put two and two together. My dad did the exact same thing. When I was younger the moment I really started understanding what was wrong with my dad was when we were in the store on Father’s Day. I gave him a hug from the side when he was not expecting it. He threw me, a little 12 year old, to the ground.
which is weird cause he didn't attack or shoot the dog in iraq cause he realized it was chained..so in a weird way his mind was clearer in the true war, than it was at home.
My grandfather served with the 173rd Airborne Brigade during the Vietnam war from '67 to '69. My mother remembers him doing exactly this when she was in high school. Sitting in the living room staring at the black TV screen. For hours. This one time in particular, i was in high school. It was sophomore year when i was heading downstairs after getting ready. Next to those stairs was him and my grandmothers bedroom. I just started to walk downstairs when i heard him weeping. I opened the door slighty and called out to him. With no reply, i walked in and found him laying on the floor next to his side of their bed. He was propped up on one elbow, punching the floor with his other fist. I never seen him like this. I immediately ran downstairs and told both my mother and grandmother what was going on. My mother ran upstairs into their room and came walking down the stairs 10 minutes later sobbing while carrying his .357, telling me there was 1 round in the cylinder. I dont know what would've happened if i never walked in. And i dont think i wanna know. There was this other thing that happened with my grandmother. He and her were sleeping. When outta nowhere, he sits up, places his hand over her mouth, waking her up, and saying "stay down, they're coming." Probably talking about the NVA. Several other times he would get outta bed late at night, and would walk out into the hallway in his patrolling formation. Taking slow steps, with his hands raised in front of him as if he was carrying a rifle, according to my mother. Mentally, he wasnt in the hallway, he was in the jungle. Despite his obvious struggles with PTSD, he was the greatest grandfather any of us could've asked for. He dedicated his entire life to us. To my mother, my father, my grandmother, to all 5 of us grandkids. R.I.P Eddie Lee Stevens 💙 1949 - 2021 R.I.P Alberta Stevens ❤ 1950 - 2021
Thanks for sharing that. He was an awesome Grandpa. You are a good hearted person. I wish I could Express It Better, but sometimes words Do not feel sufficient. ❤
There's something like 3 Medal of Honor winners in the 503rd (part of 173rd) during Nam alone. Their stories would never have made it to the big screen because they're too fkn crazy. Going into VC tunnels w/ a .40 cal and a grenade in case they were captured. Saving dozens of lives with one hand blown off. Barely believable, but it happened, and because it happened in an unpopular war they never really got the recognition they deserved.
That ending actually crushed my soul because it felt like he actually made it home at last, not only in body but also his mind. It makes me sad every time I watch it.
Same for me I had no idea who he was until this movie came out and all the shit he did and went through just to make it back to his family and become normal again just to be killed by a dude he was trying to save. Was heartbreaking to Read.
@@koreaface I can tell that I have ADHD just from my interactions with other people. With my mother and grandmother (who both very much have it) we're completely fine, but when I talk to other people who do not have it, they can't keep up with the rapid conversation shifts and my just as rapid speech. I assume PTSD is similar. You know something's wrong, but you don't necessarily know what it is. Thankfully, we've come to recognize it for what it is. I can't imagine during the days of, say, the Civil War or War for Independence. That must've been pretty real.
Since 2004..Fighting PTSD...Stay in the fight Brothers,Sisters, Mom's and Dad's...You are not alone Thank you for your service and sacrifice for Our Country...
@@justinloveland7816 I think you can to a certain extant. There are lots of ways to take care of yourself. Im also a victim of trauma not war but trauma and with the years with plenty of help that I have recieved it did kind of go away
Thank you for fighting an illegal war that resulted in the deaths of a million innocent civilians. 🙏🏻 thank you fighters of freedom! May you rot in hell.
He died overseas. He never truly came home. I like this movie. It doesn't glorify American military like others movies do. It's sad, horrifying, unsettling. He may have come home, but he didn't win.
Cops, Firefighers, and just about everyone who works on the ground in Emergency services will experience PTSD in their life. It isn't military always. And frankly nowadays it looks like it's safer to be in the military than to be a police officer.
I had a family member tell me when I first got back from Afghanistan, they walked in on me starring at a TV that was off. 6 years later and he believes I've come a long way. The funny thing is, I never felt I changed and I've always felt I was "OK".
This crushes me. Hits home so hard. Sometimes you just want to stare blankly into a nothing and drown out the noise with booze... but no one else sees anything you being a waste.
@@parkerparks8004 but they don't deserve respect equally. Men comprise 98% of all combat deaths. In Iraq it was 100 women vs over 4 thousand men. Not equal.
My grandfather is now 97. He always space out and when he sleeps, he screams "Corpsman"! I found out that, my grandfather fought in Pacific War, Korean War and War in Vietnam.
Your grandfather most likely would’ve been out of the military during Vietnam at age 36 unless he continued to serve and I highly doubt he would’ve fought because of how old he would’ve been.
Man, this is probably the realest shit you'll see in one of these war movies. I sometimes, almost 17 years after being medically retired have similar moments. I was pretty bad early on. As others have said, it's hard describe these feelings you get. People just think you're being weird. Like not wanting to turn down a certain street or walk a certain way, hear certain noises that trigger shit, etc. Much better now, but so many of my buddies got past the war part but their battles had only continued once "home". Unfortunately many of them were unfortunate not win that battle.
I dont have ptsd but ik a look of embarrassment when I see one, can almost feel it too. Its like when you get caught doing something impulsive or doing a tick.
@@agarrandoviaje5425Embarrasement isn’t even in the same stratosphere as what he’s going through. With all due respect, please don’t comment something without thinking about it first
My grandma and mom had stories about whe my grandpa came back from Vietnam. They said the worst was 4th of July and new years due to the fireworks triggering his sever ptsd. He ahd horrible nightmares and would be screaming in his sleep. My grandma told me she woke up and he was trying to strangle her because he was so in that mind set still of war he had a very hard time adjusting and forgetting Vietnam. Eventually he overcame his ptsd as he got older and unfortunately passed away back in 2020... There was a quote I remember hearing from The Last Samurai. When Tom cruise character says all soldiers have nightmares which katsumoto replies: " only those who are ashamed of what they have done." Which truly hit me that my grandfather had such shame and regret for what he had to do in war. It makes me sad that there are millions of vets who went through this, and worse that they are overlooked and forgotten. The unsung heroes of our age.
PTSD has nothing to do with shame, the film is horribly wrong. Do you think a veteran has PTSD because their ashamed they drove down a road and a dead dog was rigged with an IED, detonated and they saw their fellow soldiers ripped apart? Or do you think maybe they have triggers that forces them to relive the most traumatic moments of their life. Then they in turn react in the way that saved them from death. You’re essentially victim blaming people for their traumatic experiences.
@khure711 I just shared what I know from ptsd through my grandfather who sacrifice his well being and his life for this country yet sit here and say I'm victim blaming? Wow you really need to go outside and analyze your priorities my friend. If you're trigger by my comment, then by all means be offended. Because apparently you think I'm blaming anyone but I'm not. Just sharing a moment I realized why my grandfather awhat he did If it wasn't for him you wouldn't have the freedoms you do today. That's why he said veterans now are pussies. Because they chose to be there in the war. Whereas he was forced to go when he didn't want to all for a proxy war you war mongers gladly suck the dicks off of rich politicians to send you in.
I'm in the same boat with PTSD related to childhood trauma/current illness. I'm trying to seek support but making the first steps isn't easy. I'm unbelievably alone and I've got a family.
What sacrifices going to fight a war that had no weapons of mass destruction? It’s ridiculous just remember the elites don’t give a shit and the truth is the wars were all for nothing.
@@jonathanbirch2022 No, but getting behind VA will - supporting people like Jon Stewart who actively lobby government for better funding - there are ways people can make a difference - and it does start at thankyou, but that isn't enough
I found the very quick snippets of him turning to look at the drill and being affected by the sound of the lawnmower to be more effective than these drawn out scenes.
The effects of stress is no joke. I was peacetime army infantry, so I only got exposed to the stress of training. Later, as a firefighter paramedic, I got exposed to a lot more stress over time. One night, I was on a call that was stressful because a man was run over by an 18-wheeler and killed, and then his relative showed up at the scene and actually sat down in the street next to the sheet-draped body. As soon as we got back in service, we got a call for a routine difficulty breathing call. Not to minimize the importance of it, I’m just saying routine stuff for us. I noticed how hard it was to just wind down from the previous call. The stress that you see in a person is just the tip of the iceberg.
My uncle was a former military soldier in Western Sahara (Morocco) came back home literally mentally ill and crazy. I think it's probably from PTSD. I just sit with him sometimes and I try to talk to him and he is just staring at me and sometimes smiling just like in this video.He is 65 yo now.
One of my buddies dad was a consncript in east of turkey 90s where there was a war between pkk and turkish armed forces he wasnt that crazy but he was more upset about things he done, he told him and his buddies befriended a terrorist they captured while he was under them and eventualy that terrorist lied and lead them to ambush which forced them to kill the terrorist which upsetted them
Chris (Cooper) sitting at that bar alone, saying he needed a minute, very relatable and intense moment. I’ve never served in the military and have no sense of what veterans have gone through in war. I give Cooper props for being able to portray a broken man.
It’s strange how this affects different people. It’s unique for everyone. My dad developed ocd like behavior and the smell of smoke or having someone stand behind him made him break into a panic attack.
That chair scene I remember being a toddler and my grandpa served in Vietnam and I swear I seen him do that a lot and I never knew what he was doing till I saw this scene
If you have a husband with this problem, get informed and read about PTSD, you can probably save his life if you have the correct information to help him out.
PTSD is no joke, I honestly wish people were more aware that yes he was in war there is not much that doctors can do to stop that. He may be tough and dearly missed but that is a side affect of war, no one will understand if you were in his shoes and body. May he rest in peace.
I have ptsd and this is how it feels. When people talk to you it’s a garbled noise in the background, you’re more concerned about what’s going on around you or what’s going on in your head. The girl hula-hooping gave me anxiety. Too much movement.
yummy but Sasuke word true..... and please don't comment on this I like listening to music on my free time. even though I comment on shit don't bother me with whatever's on your mind. even if it is important. damn I say alot, if ya gonna be a troll to this, then don't just do it to me, do it to other people too, start up shit that's actually gonna keep you occupied, because I might ignore you. hell why are you reading this? ignore it. do something with a purpose, meaning, or point(s) with your life, existence, or something.
Sasuke Namikaze it’s not even realistic. COD there’s a firefight every 5 seconds... In reality, you never know when there’s gonna be an ambush. It could take hours, days, even weeks. Another thing is that those 5 men armies killing 500 terrorists and enemies is completely inaccurate to real war.
My grandfather was a medic in the Korean War. He could never drink because he would crawl on his belly around the house as if he was going towards a wounded soldier. He was wounded and became a POW. He told my mother that he had to pick bugs out of his food everyday just to eat what crap they fed him. When he passed, my grandmother gave me his purple heart and when she passed, I now have his flag. They will stay with me until I pass or find someone worthy to possess these items.
Kinda reminds me of what my mom told me . When she was younger her brother drowned an my grandpa was a ww2 vet , buried his war trophy’s with him such as a nazi flag an other mementos important enough to part with. And no we’re not nazis lol we’re Native American
I have a good friend of mine I did pre Mission training with. We were supposed to go to Mali together, because of reasons only he went there. After his mission we were driving on the road and there was a plastic bag on the side of the street. He went full throttle, used the oncoming lane and sped through a crossroad through the red traffic light. His girlfriend started screaming and shouting at him, "why did you do that!?". I immediatly noticed, how he was just reacting as we were trained for an IED on the street. It was a reflex he did not even notice what happend. Even though I didnt even go abroad, I sometimes catch myself, checking the area like we were trained.
As a veteran, I completely understand and concur. My trust of others is shot, I have little faith in society. I get myself mentally prepared for “ok what’s coming next”? It’s tough and I want my brothers and sisters in arms to legitimately get whatever help they need and deserve cause people outside don’t understand
My great uncle served in ww2 with the 442nd. When he came home, my family said he was never the same. He would sit in the living with the lights off sometimes staring into space. He’d wake up screaming, and during New Years he’d hide in the bedroom plugging his ears as the fireworks went off.
I’m only 21, but Cystic Fibrosis fucked me up, as did growing up in a broken and blended family situation. In 2019, a medication called Trikafta came out which pretty much stopped CF in its tracks and made me physically healthier than ever before. As grateful for it as I am, I’m now starting to really feel the effects of CPTSD. I was initially diagnosed with PTSD when I was seven years old after going through a particularly bad hospital stay, but shortly after I got onto Trikafta, my doctors changed my diagnosis from PTSD to CPTSD, and put me on a bunch of anti-anxiety meds because Trikafta fucked with my brain. Now, as a college student, I’m starting to realize just *how* different I was and am to my peers. It seems like everyone has it so easy and care-free. They don’t need to go to the hospital every three months for extensive check-ups. They don’t need to take 17 different medications (or 30 pills) per day. They don’t need to work out 2+ hours per day or eat 4,000 calories per day to stay healthy enough to go to class. They don’t need to worry so much about what the future holds, as unlike me, they don’t rely on $600,000 worth in healthcare per year to stay around. I just had “a moment” a few hours ago at the dinner table with my family. My grandparents came to visit and were talking about how blessed we all are, and it just struck a nerve. I sort of scoffed at the idea of being blessed, saying things along the lines of, “Well… unlike me, y’all weren’t in the hospital being poked and prodded by doctors all the damn time…”, until I eventually just broke down in sobs. I don’t know what the fuck that was all about. It’s been three hours. I’m still in tears…
Ok n going through the exact same except I'm constantly hospitalized and have to have check ups ever 2 weeks I know the feeling though if being in hospital and poked with intrusive medical shit. Also know the feeling of just wanting to me normal
It must be a great burden to have a family with ptsd. I can't even take care of myself when it gets bad. Ptsd is like a never ending battle with undiluted fear.
I never fought in war, but I have PTSD from other events and traumas that I experienced in my life. I actually really appreciate the point of view with the tv off and staring into the void scene. It really is like that. One moment I’m doing something or talking to someone and that’s when it happens. I just snap out of where I’m at and I relive the memories and habits. It becomes a daily and constant sort of torture that you never get used to. It’s not something that you can just avoid. It devours your attention and your focus. I even crashed a fucking car into a ditch and I almost hit a tree but missed by literally inches. It’s terrible, but I can only imagine what war veterans go through with such a truly awful diagnoses. Much love to anyone knows how it is. Best of wishes to you too.
@@wolfpack7gunner not that it’s any of your business, but I was sexually, emotionally and physically abused for 7 years of my childhood life. I reserve my right to speak about ptsd. Every day is a fuckin battle, just like it would be for the next person. Just like it might be for you. I’ve watched my siblings get molested, I’ve watched people die and I’ve been in multiple tornados that destroyed my home.
@@wolfpack7gunner PSTD does not discriminate or differentiate between what a specific person has gone through/experienced. The more severe cases of PTSD are obviously in combat soldiers, but there are levels to this as most things
@@wolfpack7gunner hey just because you used to be a serviceman doesn't mean you have the exclusive right to claim having PTSD or belittling non-military people who do. Regular people can have PTSD from a lot of things like a friend of mine suffers from PTSD because she was gangraped. I remember her episode ever so clearly. She was screaming in a way that was the gnarliest scream I have ever heard, she was not here at all, I don't know what triggered it but she was completely reliving that moment and all I could do was hold her and cry and beg. I probably got PTSD from that myself but I will never throw that word around lightly.
@@zippyparakeet1074 you think you have ptsd from that?!?! lmao. ive been in car wrecks, watched ppl be shot and killed, ive seen a rape happen in a bar bathroom and many other things so stop with all that nonsense lol. if you need attention that badly just make a only fans
Im like this just from growing up in a rough neighborhood. Every car pulling up. Every voice outside. Every time the doors open on the block of flats I live in. Walking past people hoping they're not tryna stab me. Not feeling safe walking on the street with a feeling I'm about to get jumped from behind. Literally watching and listening to everything around me
A vet once said that it's really fucked up. When you're out in combat, all you want is to get back home escape all of it. But when you're home you have such trouble being understood that you want to get back to your comrades and fight with them.
If you are a veteran, as an American citizen, thank you so much. I am able to live a comfortable life and I live in the greatest country in the world because of you. Thank you so much.
Friend of mine I grew up with served in the same war, he hasn’t been same since man, some of the shit he has told me gave me fucking nightmares, I feel for anyone who has had to engage in combat, it’s absolutely awful. Don’t get it twisted, you don’t have to kill the enemy to have it fuck with your mental health, he told me just seeing dead bodies on the ground and receiving threats to your life is mind numbing enough, he said the stress levels are off the charts
This scene hits so deep not only because of an accurate representation (especially hypervigilance) but also because just seeing someone else dealing with it makes you feel less alone with it.
The tv scene nailed it. How many vets do this unaware until later. I tend to do it while listening to music I’m my car, it’s scary sometimes, a song will come on and I’m back in Haiti or Colombia.
This was a strong scene that made me have major respect for our veterans. I just became a US citizen from Mexico and watching this movie motivated me to go and volunteer at the VA. I will always stand up and salute that flag because of our boys who we lost in the war. Rest in peace to Chris Kyle and blessings to his family and friends. You fought like a hero and died like a Hero. God bless you brother!
PTSD Post traumatic street syndrome. Lol growing up in a horrific household and bad neighborhood does damage. U only hear about the military suffering. Well a lot of kids are suffering even worse with no one to help
Oh grow up, it’s not just kids in the street. But all over . And it’s all called post traumatic stress disorder- not whatever you said. And no society does not just focus on veterans all ptsd is ptsd
I cry watching this movie. I Work hard and deal with so much stress that I suffer from anxiety so bad. Watching him fight for our country. Just to come home and deal with this new mental disorder ptsd sucks ass. Great movie btw
My great great great grandfather cpt Sterling Payne McDonald said after the civil war ended to his wife sallie: ain’t no mount of training could prepare you for the aftermath, it’s only ment to keep you live through the horror
just out of curiosity, do a lot of soldiers sit in the living room with the TV off? like, do they tell others they WANT to be in the living room with the TV off? or, do they just sit down? and then, (someone brings to their attention) that they haven't turned it on? (well, it could be a combination of the two, also.)
We sit in places at home that arent new to us. A place of comfort that we know. Could be a chair, could be in bed, etc. When the inside noise picks up..its just there and we’re stuck. Chris just so happened to be sitting in HIS chair.
