Punishing Gray Raven vs Zenless Zone Zero vs Wuthering Waves vs Genshin Impact (Combat Comparison) 

@@Amoryxch reasonable note

So a comparison comparing nothing.

*He knew it would be too overkill* 😂

@@zippo718 wdym it compares current hoyo vs past kuro, enough for any people with functioning brain to understand the difference.

@@zippo718 it was meaningless to compare the two. The difference is too obvious

legit

Agree🔥

it's is like playing a same game too much. and you want a fresh air. but it doesn't mean genshin is bad.

and I don't play genshin nor wuwa. I'm just watching u guys desired to make a game "better" than other game like the other are unplayable

​@@poooooya6369Genshins alright, but the fact that they don't listen to their playerbase unless someone either doxxes employees, reviewbombs their game and any other companies they collabed with, or are threatened with the CCP makes the game a pain in the ass to deal with.

It is actually an older bosses like 2 years ago

its an older boss 2 years ago might be 3

Imagine they show CW gameplay, others wont even stand a chance

​​@@Ari-ek1dxImagine if he showed the new Lucia-Oathblaze showcase. It would be coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb moment

@@pikaachoo3888 No need, Lee Hyperreal alone is enough lmao

nothing true more than this

Ahh pou how nostalgic

Valid 😂

What's pou​@@megatbasyarullah4859

Combat wise? Tru Overall? PGR is lower than ZZZ.

You are now one of us. Welcome to the gacha my friend 😂

Welcome to this "drama" community

I would still say they are held back by their monetization method. I would gladly play a game with WuWa's combat but DMC's or Bayonetta's level-style story progression. Still though, I enjoy wuwa a lot.

I'd advise to interact with the community as less as possible because it's toxic as fuck.

Welcome to the club, enjoy you're time here and please spit on the hoyoclowns whenevrr you see them

But he chooses the easiest one 😭

Once you've mastered/get used to PGR's perfect parry/dodge WuWa won't be that hard (though it wasn't that hard to begin with unless your fps is low)

@@geraldhoo0259 it's not about the difficulty but the fun engagement when you play it

@@Zilllow Oh mb, I misunderstood it, sorry bout that, but yea, that feeling when you could dodge or parry something perfectly is 🔥🔥🔥

The combat of every game its good... i just cant feel the same after beating a boss every time with less effort just to farm his ass... idk what kind of difficulty ppl think these games has but for me, outside the tower in WuWa everything its just easy... its same with every gacha game i'm playing... its everything easy except for 1 or 2 modes... PGR for me is the Babel Tower WuWa is the tower aswell Genshin impact i didn't find any hard there (i'm not playing anymore too) ZZZ i'm still low lvl so i don't want to talk about this game

sadly, people would still denial about this😂

​@@fashyakupercent20ill try giving this video's link if someone tries to argue

Elden ring would laught at this boss tbh. And the boss in this video, doesn't give justice to ZZZ. The final boss of the third chapter is more representative Or maybe Ethereal in general

​@@Zacrone77you mean the part 2 boss that stands still 50% of the time and throws the occasional laser and energy balls? Lmao.

@@Zacrone77yup, this whole video is just messed up by the boss choice. Even the wuwa one they couldve shown the hologram Tempest Mephis

Genshin combat Was never the main focus of the game. It's more the storys and the characters.

Lee Hyperreal: Hey eat this piece of nuclear ion cannon 🔥

HSR: *game plays for you*

Thats honestly the best description for pgr puzzles

Yea my bro, you're playing Candy Crush in the middle of Souls boss!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

@@davidm4171 probably the most ideal than giving it a skill button. It synergized well with the matrix and memories.

In hoyo games you just wait for afk-window for hitting a boss. Kuro's games is about permanent hit-dodge-trading with boss

even honkai impact 3rd combat is so abysmall compared to PGR. "Kuro is just a company that always copied hoyo works with PGR and Wuthering waves" they said. But they cannot explain if Kuro did copy, why did they done it better?

​@@fashyakupercent20 True, I think it's better for hoyoverse to focus on the story for their games since that's clearly what they're best at and something that they do better than pretty much any other gacha game ever made

​@@silverX3870ehh. I'd say storytelling rather than story or plot as a whole. Arknights story is amazing and far better imo, just the story telling is inferior (since it doesn't have all the amazing animations and cutscenes hoyo has for immersion). Nikke, despite its..... Fan service actually has a good story as well. And lets not forget the goat fgo.

Yeah when it comes to gameplay hoyo always focus on how to make it flashy while kuro focuses on how to make it sweaty

Pgr combat + zzz animations, storytelling and cinematics + WuWa's open world setting = the perfect gacha game.

​@@megatbasyarullah4859nah. fck open world. a waste of time running around the map

@@megatbasyarullah4859 Low end players will be saying the game sucks cause they can't even run it.

@@megatbasyarullah4859 might as well put elden ring in mobile

@@heppelhopv2true lmao, I see so many complaints and ppl hopping on the bandwagon saying the game lags too much when they’re literally playing on an iPhone 6 or a 2007 dell laptop 💀

Exactly lol

I enjoy all games, enjoy them all and share the fun with everyone. No need to dirty it with ugly feelings.

at the end of the day theyre all gacha games or something like that

Oy vey

Free🇵🇸

even wuwa from Kuro cant compare to PGR 🤣🤣🤣

@@imcat1236 and they're both by the same company 👍

based reed pf

Gen 1 has much better gameplay that is not ult spam

would be too easy to clear, even though it's gen 1 Alpha, they still gave her an upgrade and she can still do dope shit like that

​@@thegamiac9539gen 2 characters are ult spam because meta made them that way If you play close attention to the story locked characters they don't ult spam

​​​@@muhammadsulaiman5471 The new fire, lightning Lucia? She have 3 ult animations😂

Lucia 🔥⚡️ is coming!!! 😃😃😃😃

Except that the families of both the ex and the new partner are both insufferable. (aka, the loud minorities of Genshin and WuWa fandoms who only spread toxicity and fight over stupid sh*t)

You are not obligted to listen to them though. You can 100% play the game without interacting with the toxic minority​@@haku1145

@@haku1145WuWa players have the right to sht upon Genshin because most WuWa players are ex genshin players who saw how mihoyo treated their playerbase. It’s as if players will stay with a company if it treats then right idk. Mint picking will be daily for genshin players though

@@lunosse9886 You literally just proved my point 🤦‍♂️ If you think that people enjoying a game you don't like gives you the right to treat them like sh*t, then you need to get off the internet and do some serious self-reflection, buddy. If you must insult something, then insult the game. Not the player.

@@haku1145 right? Haha I agree with you. These people can’t let go of Genshin because there were once the toxic community of Genshin now all go Wuwa and start their stupid agenda again. Like if I enjoy my game I am playing I don’t need to compare. I know my game flaws and pros but I still play it. I won’t go stupidly defend and cal other out for playing it or not playing it. It’s what both toxic community now is doing haha.

Can't wait for gen3 😂😂😂😂

Exactly lol, it would have been extremely unfair

@@GreyEnfield_CRYSTAL gen 3 has come first character is lucia they added air combat too.

​@@roddickell1984Lamia already have air combat before Lucia

@@whetfishfin177 lamia flooding the stage and swimming in it, this guy "she flies" 😆 lol

Yeah but hi3 ain't as popular or hype as zzz. I just see it as a waifu simulator lol

@@megatbasyarullah4859 Well yeah, but ZZZ is just a completly different game. It didn't feel like Hi3rd nor PGR, or even any other gacha game that exist rn. So far the combat style is still new and will probably get a lot better someday.

@@FireBlueZ idk i don't think its anything new. Rather than new its more like a modification to an existing system. The switching characters is basically a flashy qte with animations and crazy camera work. Parrying is still parrying just done by switching characters instead of the character used on field. Nothing new for me

​@@FireBlueZ it's aether gazer but reskin

@@yehua3412 Isn't Aether Gazer just one man army with 2 other character only work as support?

@@6ry6hr id recommend watching more pgr clips id recommend rexlents no hit boss fights with crimson weave, absolute cinema

heck! my brother got bodied by Roland because he was button mashing way too much lol

Roland bodied me when I was new. Then I new I had to be careful as the same way I play dark souls

@@zamirroa Him and that Rapier dude bodied me when I was new and I still get bodied by them when I get too lazy or overconfident. Just like what that line in Darkest Dungeon says "Overconfidence is an insidious poison" or something.

scar nightmare mode weekly boss would've also been better. I fought him and ma gawd was that something (imo lol)

@@LemonPop93 scar gets crazier in the final floor of illusive realm

​@@p4ntom87 even my lv.3 turtle shield broke in 2 hits lmao.

That would've been overkill.

I think it's fair, because PGR only used Hetero mother and Lamia for their boss fights.

Dont think he would be the last one to do so. CN PGR (even global now aday) bosses can parry the player and used player matrix (your own mechanic) against you for years now and i dont see why they wont implemented it more into WuWa aswell.

It also applied to memphis esp in hologram high diff

@@Coziness101 in later with hologram boss. if implement so hard people wont play the game :L

​​@@ZalZal15 how would u know if an enemy parries u?

That the comment i was waiting for you are the one who is accurate bro and some of the rest are so brainrock

And it is easier to grind

tbh i got tired running around in open world games. i prefer instanced games instead. no need to waste time running around looting stuff

​@@sirmeowmeow7319Same. Open worlds are great, but they often take too much time. Probably why I prefer PGR and Souls games compared to their open World counterparts.

@@sirmeowmeow7319 yeah, weeklies on closed world games like pgr where everything is easily accessible is just the most relaxing thing about pgr.

Same like hi3

Literal Coughing Babies vs Hydrogen Bombs

Yup those toxic kids or mentally ill adults ftom the hoyo fandom needs disclaimer before they go berserk😂

​@@Khann_2102😂 hahaha iagree 😂 Baby combats from Homieverse Nerd vs Kuro games of Chads

​​@@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 really you guys are so racist you are hate genshin more than anything and i don't know why and does when something is bad does need to be hated , and like elden ring does has hack and slash combat no and does elden ring need to be hated because of its slow combat , every game has its own combat don't be racist bro and i think you are all have genshinphobia

​@@KnK-loooinmracists? this is game bro it wasn't that deep

Did somebody say red mist...

Fr they need to add that alpha in celica class

Did you just say *RED MIST?*

@@pretz313 rex said enjoy it cuz its never coming back, he damn right 😢

IS THAT THE RED MIST

Genshin never had complex combat. But at least Genshin got the best looking bosses, with the coolest theme songs.

That hardcore gameplay market is big on PC but not on mobile.

The problem I see her is that wuwa is new, wait 1 or 2 years and we got powercreep characters that will break the game.

@@goodbro2046 just like what happened in their other game pgr right? pffffft ahaha

no that wouldn't work for two reasons. reason one their netcode is hot garbage. reason two genshin characters tend to be extremely shallow on their own

Yeah bro i like what you said but for example genshin cant do that because this style of combat , is become genshin style which is slow paced and i hope some people know that because every game has its own combat but its pity that some people don't know that 😓

Bro, Genshin is more HP Sponge than ZZZ at least when I see it 😂

@@bimoprakoso2820 yeah but I dropped genshin 2+ years ago already

that ZZZ boss does feel like an HP sponge, but it's an unoptimized team with probably 0 or bad equipment and bad gameplay in a test version of the game.

More like stylish dealer amd damage dealer the way to represent the strongest

One character i really wish to see in wuwa is bambinata. I started PGR when bambi was festured. Immediately main her until now. Spent all resources to SSS3 her lol. Even weapon too

All A characters starting from Haicma all have incredibly slick moves

Both Wuwa and PGR are made by the same developers (Kuro Games), Wuwa is still relatively new, but it’ll catch up eventually

well they nerfed ww boss like parry them makes them knocked unlike pgr,so even casual can beat the game

Kuro made wuwa to cater more for casuals. But who knows. Its like pgr gen 1 characters and old bosses. They were also not that hard back then

Well wuwa is supposed to be casual open world game. Who knows kuro will make it follow pgr path.

@@megatbasyarullah4859 Funny to think we were having a hard time during Aife's memory rescue lol

Oh are you talking about wotan?

@@eebop. Nah I'm talking about the clock boss

​@@davidfrost5995Not that clockwork mecha 💀

Ofc, its twitter. Believe it or not, theres also a handful of toxic kuro games fans in twitter. Also PGR vs ZZZ is not really a good comparison as its always been PGR vs HI3 as a close rivalry

Everything in twit is weird you know

ZZZ isn't even that teleporty like those 2

Same. I can find the enjoyment in ZZZ while I wait for Changli and grind echos

yup, chilling on zzz after beating holos. As wuwa glazer, zzz is kinda fun and def less stressfull than wuwa. With that said.. mommy comming home next week.

I'm sure Hoyo could release an Anime gacha based Need for Speed, make the worst driving simulator in human history and it would still sell like crazy. Hoyo is becoming Apple.

you telling me you also liked the TV Section? because personally speaking that section is Hoyo's worst mistake in their game design

@@a4arick106Right? The TV section is also aesthetically depressing… dark, gloomy and hard to see. It looks more depressing than the color palettes of WUWA CBT1.

@@drekhunterYou mean like the MCU. They’re at the phase where they haven’t overstayed their welcome yet. But if they keep pumping out games, eventually the fatigue will kick in.

And then to some idiots to say PGR copied lmao

ON GOD

ig pgr stays a hidden gem til they rack in that wuwa money

Pgr needs cinematics and voice acting like ZZZ. The game is a gem in combat and very good in story

​@@zamirroa Unfortunately I don't think voice acting would work in a novel like story because of how long they can be. BUT I think they have A LOT to do in making the novel like story become more enjoyable that what it is currently. Right now, unless you can very well absorb the style of narrative writing of PGR and can read long ass stories, it's gonna be hard for you to enjoy PGR story.

@@twitzmixx8374 i mean voice acting with actual scenes and not novel format

They have it named Flow

​​@@HazardToneAnd it didn't make it in game, Wuwa Deserves more songs

@@takebacktheholyland9306 They are now gonna be the Director now from what I've heard so ye.

There's two boss which is Thundering Mephis but only on higher stages of Hologram where you can parry the clone and the main one and Crownless which is crazy at Winged form. Maybe 2.0 will introduce something like it that's not Hologram only. We still only have a few characters that can easily parry continuously.

​@@Kurokawa_Mitsuki there's also mighty lighcruser the level 120 Overworld boss

@@-IGRIS- oh yeah I forgot about that. Heck that boss made me sweat for 50mins since Jinhsi is my only lvl 80 while the other characters are underleveled. It's parry is so random for me sometimes I miss one and one character dies.

Hologram Crownless and Mephis will go ham on your at times having you dodge 5+ times in a short window.

Doesn't Crownless have one sequence where all the moves are parryable? I'm not sure though

Impressive as in? Diffuculty peaked with the Raiden boss fight (not a high peak but meh). The thing is that Genshin weeklies are extremely polarized, Stormterror is a joke, Andrius has too little HP to even show his whole kit, Childe got nerfed because the babies cried, Azdaha is just a high damage shield check, Signora is just visually impressive but the fight is waiting twice for two DPS windows and DoT, Raiden is the only good fight, Scara is waiting for two DPS windows again, The guardian of Apep is DPS window followed by bad monolith defense followed by DPS window with a instakill mixed in, The Narwhal has some impresive music but that's about it, the whole fight is just waiting for that thing to do something and Finally Arlecchino that has like 5 mechanics that in the end don't matter because you can deal more DPS by ignoring them. Being honest if I wanted to brag about a Genshin fight I'd pick Raiden but it would be kind of fake advertisement since it's the only one that barely pads the timer (but still does it).

Genshin's good boss fight is only Raiden Shogun, and not in her Shokukami form

@@drekhunter i meant it as a sarcasm, we all know that the genesis fight is full of BS mechanics.

PGR and HI3 has a long term rivalry. Both PGR and HI3 has the similar combat while HI3 is more flashy, PGR has more animations.

This video is meant for the new Kuro games vs Hoyo Games category. As hoyo advertised their zzz as combat focused game and Genshin is a open world rpg so both games meet their expectations the best but yeah hi3 would be good, maybe a new video for it.

use Apho footage too for honkai.

That game is trash that’s why

HI3 sucks ass rn.

@@kyarumomochi5146 big facts reason why I stopped playing it .

You're describing Raiden, that's the only fight that doesn't revolve around waiting for something to win and the mechanics are actually engaging being honest that would be the worst choice for Genshin because it the only one that does that, all the rest of them are like Scara, wait for X or the mechanics don't matter at all.

you can solo facetank arlecchino with kokomi lol

no way you struggle to that-

Bro, the hardest boss is the Whale 😂 I mean, before an actual fight, I got sleepy of that fucking shit 😂

It guess the video would be too long

You can just spam and win in zzz for now.

Their interval of attacking are way tooo slow indeed

They are using electric characters that applies the effect shock to the enemy. Shock cancel the enemy’s attack and if it’s a machine type then it will get stunned for a brief moment.

​@@FateShadow643 I didnt know the maschine part tks bro

Perfect dodge and shocked that's why

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​@@bojo7667 artificially debuffing ur characters lol. all of them are 1 hit away from dying

honestly i feel like genshin is just a dps check

@@leo-um3pj Yep, it is, there were a couple of times it wasn't but long gone are those days.

​@@drekhunter have you checked out ZZZ boss's fight 'Dead End Butcher'? Every boss have different combat I guess.

No doubt

Thats the reason i dont use bloom when i do end game content too, cant see shit with particle and glow effect every where xD

Turning down bloom would help a lot

@@Marc-rw3dd dunno what narrative are you talking about

@@Scatterblades wrong comment, my b

It won't be a fair comparison if we take the new units, I wanted to give them equal grounds and make all of them look good, the new PGR combat and gameplay would be overkill for everyone else.😅 I will probably make a new video including the latest one and the best each game has to offer 💝

​@@AmoryxchThank you, may I suggest Hyperreal vs Projection?

Actually kinda hard in norman.

The 2nd half look cooler, the first half is still a snooze fest 😅

All characters in PGR can parry

opposite actually, it depends on the bosses some bosses has parries some don't but majority of the new bosses in game has parries

@@HazardTone yes

​@@Amoryxchohhh I'm a member too. So it's yours. I'll sub!

​@@Amoryxchim also a member. try to showcase hologram next time. atleast we can showcase realgameplay of wuwa

Fk, imma sub now

+1 Sub

Nah Crimson Abyss is the okay other unit will be overkill

It won't be fair because other units are way too good, i wanted to make an equal standing

LoL 😂​@@Amoryxch

Bro Gen 2 or Even The new Lucia Oathblaze would be Overkill comparison to other games 💀

if you want to compare other games, compare the best of the best, not in equal​@@Amoryxch

Parrying doesn't really exist in ZZZ, or rather it's just extremely scuffed to the point that nobody uses it. WuWa also has more in-depth Vibrations, Concerto, Forte and Intro/Outro

@@alfianwi3905 except the combos you deal in zzz just means nothing while the switch damages are the main damage. So you can just button mash your way to trigger cycle attacks. In ww however, you can find people doing solo holograms on yt.

all genshin bossrs are slow 🐌

Yeah but is it honest to represent the game with the only decent boss in the game when every other one is just extremely mid? The Narwhal is the boss fight that best represents Genshin, waiting for ages for a minuscule DPS window, followed by a BS mechanic that forces you to bring a specific character or take longer for a slighly longer DPS window and finally amazing music that would make taking a dump feel epic.

did you know mate. the Author also nerf PGR and Wuwa in this show. if he pick the hardest bosses in each game, it'll be genocide for hoyo bosses 😂

@@drekhunter since u want each game to have their best bosses to represent their games itll just make genshin and zzz look worse than it does now lol have u seen pgr's recent characters and boss fights and wuwa's hologram bosses?

@@ShadowOfGoM You didn't read shit right? I said that using Raiden to represent Genshin is inaccurate because she is an exception, all the other bosses stale for time and or don't require their gimmick mechanics. That's why I said the best boss to REPRESENT Genshin is the Narwhal, 80% time waste and 20% ousia/pneuma bs.

Hi3? Pioneer? What? Other games already invented parries and dodges. Hi3 just took it and put it in the gacha genre.

This comparison is meant for the direct competitors and popular ones, As hoyo advertised their new game ZZZ as combat focused game while Genshin is a open world anime RPG, So this is directly competition to PGR which is popular(now) & Wuthering Waves as they match the genre but I agree with you on Hi3 being the most suitable. I will make another video about that comparison.

@@megatbasyarullah4859 Was there any other gacha before HI3 that did it then? On mobile? Cause the one that dominated where 2D gacha games. This was the first of its kinds to even make high-quality 3D game for mobile no less. Dude nowadays PGR, Aether Gazer, Solo Leveling and all sorts have the same structure of HI3, hence why yeah. It's not the ones that invented parries and dodges, but the fact that the gacha games listed in the video use the double dodge balance system, dodge buttons for time fracture, QTE's , The parries being specific was straight from APHO. So yeah, it is a pioneer for the mobile space that other gacha games of the same nature uses as a stool.

hi3 pioneer? U mean bayonetta? Lmfao

​@@stuffzluvverz_7665HI3 litterally took all of its moveset from bayonetta dude.

lol. boring visual novel enjoyer

@@Antidepressiva1980 I quite enjoy PGR story telling,its my type.