I think a problem people have when creating their splits is insisting on fitting them into 1 week. I do a push pull legs variation that spans 9 days (including rest days).
@@aaronwylie6928yep- I do standard push, pull, legs, but for every 2 times through I do 1 strictly shoulder day because my shoulders don’t get hit enough on pull day (only do lateral raises on push day).
😂 somehow my first routine was upper body/lower body then mix of front, back. Training neck, calves forearms and stuff that nobody actually trains. But needed to change a bit and make it as a 1 week training plan (my first plan was for 2 weeks, very good. But hell a lot of effort so i needed 2 weeks off)😂😂
Are you guys ensuring all body parts get hit 2x a week? That’s the whole point of PPL split, to make sure all muscle get hit twice a week. So with this 8-9 variation, is that what’s going on?
PPL is my favorite split. I prefer to train on a 3 day split. Turning 40 sucked, especially with juggling life responsibilities and training. Training a 3 day PPL split on Monday, Wednesday, Friday works well for my schedule and saves my joints. People tend to over complicate training. Enjoyment and consistency are key factors for success in any routine. Enjoy training, stay consistent, eat healthy, and results will show no matter what routine we choose.
Exactly, learning different routines for the same muscle is important too so your muscles dont get too comfortable. I tried Goblet squats the other day and fried my legs, surprised how sore I was next day ; ]
The experimenting with the different splits is fun. Just learn and evolve. Some lifts work serveral muscles. Key is to just enjoy your workouts and get plenty of rest. Started hitting incline bench more and pec deck machine and really feeling it more. Just mix it up, go hard and be smart.
Doing the split allows for me to target & give my all to each 2 body parts that day. I could never be doing several or full body. For me, I need to expend all my energy and strength for specific parts and that works so well.
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Pull is back and biceps, push is chest triceps and shoulders. You can put different emphasis on certain muscles within the back for example. Start with high rows if you want to hit the traps, you’re still hitting lats just with less emphasis
I've been doing Push-Leg-Pull-Leg for about a year now. The two leg days are different however. One is quad/squats focused, the other is hamstring /RDL focused. Calves happen on both leg days. I work out at the most 3 days a week usually.
I started with 6 day bro split, then to PPL , then did multiple modifications, now my 5 day asynchronous split looks like this 1. Chest front delts side delts 2. Back, rear delts, traps 3. Arms 4. Legs 5 rest , Repeat .
This is the routine that allowed me to gain 30 lbs in the first year of lifting at age 22. I went from 135 to 165 at 5'9". The first 10 lbs came the first half of the year but the last 20 lbs came in the last half. I'm not sure if this is why but I gained the first 10 lbs from push/pull/leg bro splits and I gained the other 20 lbs from focusing on muscle groups. Day 1) Chest, Triceps, Mid Back Day2) Legs, Forearms, Lower & Upper Back Day 3) Shoulders, Biceps, Lats I waited no more than 7 days before hitting the same muscle group but I always rested at least a day between each workout and each month I would switch from mod rep ranges to low rep ranges. Now I am growing with sets of 30 - 50 because at 42 I can move a lot more weight at that rep range so it still triggers hypertrophy
I do full body every other day, an hour a workout hiit cardio for 30mins then I hit my legs back rdl and quads, im doing it to lose weight overall and it’s been good for me, idk why I can’t split I just have a hard time sticking to 1 muscle group, call me weird but I’ve lost a ton of weight and toned up nicely 😊
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My push day Chest press or bench Incline fly dumbbell or machine Barbell shoulder press Lateral raise Close grip bench/skull crushers Tricep pull down Bodyweight dips My pull day Pull ups and chin ups Lat pull down or barbell row or seated row Hammer curls Dumbbell or pulley curls Reverse pec Dec or face pulls Farmer carry 2 sets Leg day Deadlifts Calf raises Leg extension Leg press, both normal stance and feet higher up for hamstrings Elliptical Usually one or two 20-30 minute cardio sessions per week (elliptical)
Back chest, arms shoulders is just what feels right for me. Did pus pull for my first year of training (abit more), but I just did not grow my arms or got sore at all since arms wher always after chest/back. But now I love my workout split, sore after every single workout.
@Enyamasparw try it, you'll like it. Splitting the quads & hamstrings up allows you to go WAY HARDER on each. Remember, you do as many exercises & sets for your hamstrings as you do for your quads. Shoulders on hamstrings day is the only thing I can train with hamstrings that doesn't leave me exhausted. Abs always trained before any leg or back day. This routine got me the biggest/strongest I ever was. Then I'd do a light routine over 3 days after this power stuff
@Enyamasparw I added calf exercise on day 2 because I was totally exhausted after trashing quads. Didn't have the energy to train calves. 3 or 4 sets of calves goes quick on day 2
I like ppl and hitting everything twice a week. But I feel you can neglect the smaller muscles on that split. I like a variation of the bro split. Chest and shoulders/ legs/ back and rear delts/ arms and shoulders. Then repeat. Hit everything about twice a week. Sometimes ill throw in some sets of triceps on chest day and some biceps on back day.
I do a PPL version splitting up quads and hamstrings and I don't try to fit it all in 7 days. It's more like a rolling schedule. Legs (Quads & Calves), Push (Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Lateral Delts), off day, Legs (Hamstrings/Glutes/Calves), Pull (Back/Biceps/Lateral Delts), off & repeat.
I mix ppl and bro split into a hybrid. I have PPL days but also days for grip and for delts, for cardio, and i do calisthenics skill training aswell. All customized to my personal needs and goals. Not for everyone.
I don't know a lot about body part splits, but it probably does speak to their efficacy that the PPL routine I've programmed for myself after a lot of tooling around with other smarter people's PPLs, wound up having elements of a body part split built into it. Like a push day a targeting chest and a push day B targeting shoulders and triceps.
Isn't PPL basically a bro split under a different name? I mean, it's usually : Push : Chest/shoulders/triceps Pull : Back/biceps Leg Day So, on a basic level, it seems pretty much the same. The two splits that are actually different are upper/lower and full body.
The best one is the one that is focused on your build .Take a paper right every muscle groups from your best to worst and the best is trained one time per week and the worst 3,the other ones dipends ok how many days you want to train so you choose how many times they been trained to feet with how many days you want to train .Simple and better to make a more balanced phisique,the way i fixed my weekneses.
I use to do PPL. However, after optimizing my volume and high intensity to failure sets in between? I realized i had to have a Shoulders day on its own with Triceps, so it became now a Bro-Split for me since i like to annihilate the rear delts first as my first to do on my Shoulders day (between 5 to 7 sets of rear delt flys w/ dropsets to failure as well), and noticed dramatic gains. Moreover, my Chest day contains Triceps and Abs, that alone takes me a good amount too. Though Back with Biceps day and Leg Day are my most draining days, so i try to have Legs on Mondays and Back on Fridays when Wednesdays are my Chest Days, Saturdays are Shoulders & Sundays either mobility work with cardio/HIIT or back to Chest Day, then Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays i have Krav Maga & B Jiu Jitsu training.
Depending on which exercises you do you are probably also doing front shoulder on chest day so it’s possible that you are over hitting it (depending on your split)
Jay don’t get the question. It’s not about the push pull legs split over a body part split. It’s the question, if push pull legs 6 times per week, which means 2x frequency per body part beats one time per bodypart per week by bro split
I don't even train splits. I do one heavy exhaustive lift (squat, bench, deadlift) per day then do the lighter weight stuff until I'm whooped. Basically full body 4-5 days a week rotating out my heavy lifts. But I recover quick and if I feel a certain body part is thrashed I just take a day or two off from hitting it. Pretty easy. My gains are good too. I don't feel like a split would make me gain faster.
push pull legs doesn’t work if you specialize certain muscles. chest day gets its own day. i can’t rly do chest and also triceps and get a good workout for both :)
The best split routine out there is: Monday: Drinking on the couch Tuesday: Drinking at the dining table Wednesday: Drinking on a bean bag Thursday: Drinking on the balcony Friday: Drinking on the bath tub Saturday: Drinking on the bed Sunday: Rest day. Smoke some weed for quicker rest
I do push pull legs. Its just super hard for me to do like opposing muscle groups like doing chest/lats bis/tris. Bis and tris is easy and glorious but the amount of compound movements with chest and lats takes so much out of me. Then i struggle with not wanting tris sore when i do chest or bis when lats, similar with delts. Just feels like my recovery times cohesively and it feels like im not killing myself one day and strolling through the park the next. Ill do calves and or abs as a day off (training calves roughly 5 days a week). I also keep the intensity a little extra high for legs, mine are naturally skinnier and i feel like the size of the muscles makes sense i would have to go a little overboard. I like isolating before compounds now on legs because its easier for me to get to failure and beyond more often and it decreases my likelihood for injury. Ive gotten great numbers on compound leg lifts that honestly were kinda bad ass considering the eccentric time i was getting and what not but i ended up with my knees constantly being sore and its honestly just not worth it. If i want to become a powerlifter ill make sure i train form and mobility like crazy but right now i havent been consistent enough, my muscles will be ready for things my ligaments and tendons arent.
I think the problem is that people group all the leg muscles into one leg day when you don’t do that for upper body. There is back day arm day chest day shoulder day. so for legs there should be quad day hamstring day calf day and maybe even glute day unless you do that with hamstrings. And then core too lol
Me and my brother do a push/pull split with a leg day and ab day and a cardio day because of Sam sulek, he knows when you don’t hit your cardio, he’s making a list but only checks it once like a pimp
I also thinks its easier if you cant go to the gym everyday of the week for whatever reason, its much easier to hit everybody part every week trying to do 3 days rather then what was happening to me where id do arms chest and miss legs and then 2 days go back, have a lot of things to hit but my arms and chest have also been rested and can go again
Brosplitir was great for begiinners If your train one muscle group /week, nomather how hard you hit it, you wlll be full recoverd ubtill thel next week, nomather how hard you hit it, Most pepoe would be ready to do a 100% gymsession the next time/week😅
PPL is fantastic for me who can only do bodybuilding three days per week. It actually ended up being LPP. LEGS- Seated Ham curls 3x15 Leg Extension 3x15 Glute focused back extension 3x15 Leg press variant 3x16-20 Abductor machine 3x15-20 PUSH- ISO hammer incline press 3x15 Low incline cable chest press 3x15 Decline-ish chest press machine 3x15 Lying cable Lateral raise 3x15 Low to high cable fly 3x15 Triceps push downs 3x15-20 PULL Pulldown Machine 3x15 Wide grip Mid back row 3x15 Hammer strength ISO low row 3x15 Lat prayer- 1 arm cable shrug super set 3x15 Bicep machine 3x15-20 Control your reps, feel the stretch, feel the muscles your trying to work. This is bodybuilding not weightlifting!
@@Duckmaster82 You should read up on muscle protein synthesis. Should take you no more than 7 minutes to figure out why your split is ineffective if you want to build muscle.
@@Enyamasparw Mate, you should educate yourself on how muscle is built and then on how long it takes for muscle to atrophy. If an individual builds muscle on a Monday, that muscle is still there the next Monday. MAYBE maybe higher frequency is “optimal” but just because something isnt optimal doesn’t mean it’s ineffective. Duffus.
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