"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." Luke 21:36 Our Blessed Hope
The Bible says when the Rapture occurs, those in Christ who are dead will rise first, and those of us who are still alive will rise to meet up in the air with Jesus.
Penny, Theres just one problem 1st thessalonians 4 16 says the dead in christ rise first. Jesus is back on earth by rev 19 20 when he cast the beast and his false prophet into the lake of fire And rev 20 1 3 when jesus cast satan into the bottomless pit for a thousand years That means zechariah 14 4 5 takes place prior to rev 19 20 So how can the living be raptured on jesus way down to earth at the second coming when the dead in christ in rev 20 4 are not reserected till AFTER jesus has returned to earth? Can you explaine this? Remember 1st thessalonians 4 16 says the dead in christ rise first
@@tonyeaton671 I'm not talking about the Second Coming. I'm talking about the Pre-Tribulation Rapture when Jesus comes back for His believers, or His Church, before the Tribulation starts. We meet Him in the clouds, with those that are dead rising first. Then those of us that are alive will meet Jesus in the air and He will take us back to Heaven during the seven years of the Tribulation. After the seven years of the Tribulation, Jesus comes back to earth for His Second coming and He brings His angels and all His believers from the Rapture back with Him.
@@tonyeaton671 I humbly ask for us to just be brothers and sisters in Christ. Believers sometimes interpret the Bible in different ways. Some believe in Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Post-Trib. I apologize if my first comment offended you. I didn't mean for it too. Please let us just agree that our Savior Jesus is coming back for us and what a great day that will be!!
Amen Edith, you and me both. I’m so sick of this disgusting sinful world. I can hardly wait for our Lord and Savior to be with Him forever and evermore Hallelujah!!! 🙌👑🙌🙏✝️❤️
@Jesus is Lord , in John 14:1-4, Jesus said to BELIEVE him that he was going to prepare a place for his followers in his Father’s house and would later take them there. In Rev 2-3, Jesus warned that he would throw some into the great tribulation, but in Rev 3:10 he promised others that he would deliver them out of the time of testing that’s coming on everyone who dwells on the earth. One must BELIEVE in the gospel to be saved, so how can anyone who disbelieves in the Rapture (and even attacks the rescue) be saved from the great tribulation? Many would have been better off to have not heard of it rather than to have been called to the feast but chosen to not come and mocked those who have-like Lot encountered.
Jesus is Lord : Read the book of Revelation if you don’t believe me. You’re calling the Son of God a liar. Only the devil is a liar. You are proving to everyone here that not only do you not study the Word of God, you don’t read it either! You talk like the majority of the world that scoff at the things of God. If I want to believe in the pretrib rapture then that’s MY business. I’m not knocking you for not believing in it. That’s a trivial but not something that’s going to send you to hell. The thing that matters the most is salvation through the blood and death of Christ-being born-again and having your name in the Book of Life! Jesus said that the man of perdition (the Antichrist) will not be revealed until the Restrainer is removed (the Holy Spirit). If the H.S. Were to be removed right now the whole world would be hell on earth. No righteous people around. Read 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8. But if the Church goes through the Tribulation period, the Church will know who the Antichrist is because he will head up the one-world government (Rev. 13:10); put a statue of himself in the rebuilt Temple (Matt. 24:15); demand that people take his Mark, name, or number (Rev. 13:15-17); kill the Two Witnesses (Rev. 11:7), and more. The church is mentioned more than twenty times in the first three chapters of Revelation, but there is no mention of the Church between Rev. 4:1 and Rev. 19:1. No one can know the day or hour of the Second Coming (Matt. 24:36). But if the Church goes through the Tribulation Period, some will know the day because it will be seven years from the signing of the seven-year covenant (Dan. 9:24-27) and 1,260 days from the day the Antichrist defiles the Temple (Rev. 12:6). The Pre-Trib Rapture is more consistent with God’s grace, love, and mercy. After the Rapture probationary period is closed and Judgment will commence. Those who receive Jesus during the tribulation will not have the H.S. Dwelling in them because the ‘Restrainer’ left the earth. The wrath of God will be for those who refuse to repent. Dust off your Bible, if you have one, and STUDY IT!! Ask God to open your spiritual eyes and give you wisdom. I have studied all three Tribs and none but the first agrees with Scripture.
@Jesus is Lord: You’re asking me if those left behind DESERVE to go through the Tribulation. If you are a Lukewarm or lazy Christian who is living more for this fallen world than for Christ and you got left behind when the Rapture came, then WHOSE fault is THAT!! God’s?! Whose fault is it when THAT person misses the flight, or train or bus?
INTRO: I had a dream many years ago. I dismissed it as a nightmare. I had many others after that but those are for another time. I never knew what this dream meant until I asked Jesus into my heart and received salvation. I didn’t tell a soul. In my early 40s, I told my husband and eldest daughter about my dream. They just stared at me with a blank look and didn’t say a word. I became a member of my church and thought of telling my pastor but I didn’t want him to think I wanted attention or that I was crazy. At that time I was still a new Christian. A few years later I tried again in an e-mail but didn’t feel comfortable. I did not have the courage to tell him not because of the person he is but because of how I am. I always struggled with social anxiety. I started getting into the Word daily. I just felt the urge to get filled with the Spirit by reading the Bible as much as I could. I read devotionals and saw videos. I went to classes at Church etc. I was reading the Bible one morning and I almost fell to the floor. I was having a panic attack so I called my daughter to tell her. I’m crying, speaking fast, and my heart was pounding so fast as if it wanted to come out of my chest. It felt like I was having a heart attack. I kept trying to explain what I read but stumbled with my words. In an instant, I felt calmness and I just knew. I told her I would call her back. This week I was watching RU-vid videos and a pastor was talking about a rapture dream he had. This gave me a 2nd confirmation once again that God spoke to me. It was not just any dream and I wasn’t crazy. The dream he had was similar to mine but different. So today I had the courage to write about it. So here goes. END OF TIMES DREAM My dream starts on a beautiful warm night. I’m standing and looking out from the top of a mountain cliff looking at a beautiful night horizon. I hear the sound of life. Behind me I hear people talking, kids playing, and cars passing by like a normal night. I never turn back to see them but I hear them. I feel the warm gentle breeze on my hair and face. I’m looking at the sky enjoying the scenery. I’m in awe at how amazing and beautiful everything looks. The trees and plants are swaying with the breeze. The mountains and the sky look so peaceful. I look up to the stars; they capture my attention. They seem to sparkle and twinkle so bright, more than usual. I see a shift in the stars and planets. They were moving and rearranging. This hypnotizes me and I can't help staring at the sky with amazement. Suddenly I see flashes of light in the sky. Billions of stars start falling with a hail of fire onto the earth slowly then massively all around me. I don’t panic nor feel any fear. I’m looking at everything happening but I felt protected as if I had a shield around me. I only felt peace and calmness. I suddenly hear cars crashing, people crying, sirens, warning sounds, and horrible terrifying screams. They see what I’m seeing. I hear rumbling and I look down the cliff and see the ground shaking. It's an earthquake. There are explosions going off and fire is spreading all around. People are running in panic and some are falling into the open ground. In a flash, it felt like I was moving back and forth, as in a sci-fi movie like a Star Trek or Star Wars ship in warp speed. I’m moving from one area to the next in different locations. I looked around and could see everything. I’m standing in a field and I can see all of the lands. It looked like a desert, with many deep holes everywhere and it smelled like death. I felt the presence of evil all around. It was dark and everything on earth was left destroyed, crumbled and in disarray. So many people died! Again in a flash, I’m back on the cliff standing and I continue to see the stars falling. The ground is moving away from me as if I was in a balloon floating up to the sky. Clouds are beneath me and under my feet as I go up. I see people below me and they look like ants the further I float up. The clouds get thicker like fog. They look like white fluffy cotton clouds when you're looking out of an airplane window. I look to the left and then to the right and see other people floating up too. Then I realize billions of angels are lifting people up. An angel is taking me up too, but I can't see the angel’s face but I see the body dressed in white. Again in a flash, I’m in Heaven. I’m suddenly in the Presence of God. I feel so much joy and overwhelming happiness. Then God speaks to me and tells me something I never thought I would hear. I see His body but not His face. His face is like the sun. He glows so brightly but it didn’t hurt my eyes to look at Him. He’s dressed in white. He spoke to me telepathically. He could hear my thoughts and I could hear His. I cannot describe how amazing I felt being in His Presence. I felt so much love and peace and I could sense how much He loved me. He stood at the door of Heaven. He said to me, “my child you cannot stay.” I begged, pleaded, cried and asked if I could stay. All I wanted to do is be with Him forever. I didn’t want to go back with the people left behind. He said I can return one day, but not until I complete my mission. I asked what do you want me to do God. He said, “I need you to go back and help save more souls.” He showed me what is to come and what must take place. The last thing he said is to tell everyone that He is coming soon. Be on guard brothers and sisters. Wake up! Too many of us have fallen asleep. Keep watch! We all have to rise up and put on the armor of God every day. We have been chosen. He’s coming. You may think I’m crazy or just don’t believe me and that’s okay. I do know what I dreamed and I believe He gave me this message for you to hear. There are certain dreams that you forget. But I can't forget this dream. I remember it as if it were yesterday, but it has been years. It's your choice. I don’t know why He chose to speak to me. I just know I have to tell you. Hear my words. You’ve been warned. I don’t know if it's in our time or the next generation. All I know is that I’m getting ready, are you? Our mission is clear -tell others the good news before it’s too late. You may be the only one or the last one that can tell them. Don’t miss your divine appointment. I believe the time is near. For those who haven’t decided to follow Jesus, I pray this message opens your ears and unveils your eyes. May the power of God and the name of Jesus remove your heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh. Please get right with God and repent of your ways. Accept Jesus into your heart today.
Thank you for sharing this, rapture could happen anytime!.... Are you ready? For any one reading... Know your saved, Believe the Gospel = Good News for salvation, 1Corinthians 15 : 1-4 KJV. Jesus Christ God did everything needed to save you... He died for your sins was buried and rose again.
@@Raymond1C Sorry brother, you are wrong regarding this point. Encourage each other for being with the LORD within a twinkling of an eye is written in the BIBLE, which clearly refers to the rapture. Amen!!!
Raymond1C These are the words of the Jesus of the bible 29 "But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Parable of the Fig Tree (Matthew 24:29, NASB) The Jesus you talk of is another Jesus.A false Jesus .
I think the tribulations started since JESUS left the earth but we are now awaiting the Great tribulation which will be soon, so the Rapture could come very soon.
All I can say is, Man has made this world a terrible, evil place and I don't want to be in it anymore, I just want to be beside my saviour and Lord till eternity. He is all I think about, my concentration is only on him, I don't like this world. The glory of God is great and powerful.
Cheryl Compton USA actually they will. The Bible is very clear on this. I fell into this fictional fairy tail myself. Learning the truth in studying the Word of God took a lot of pride swallowing.
The Sock Monkey The word wrath does not appear at all in 2 Thessalonians. It appears in 1 Thessalonians 1v10 &also in 1 Thessalonians 5v9. Both uses of the word wrath are used to encourage those believers that we are NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH. You are not correct Cheryl is correct. Wrath is for unbelievers and it serves as a judgement on the kingdom of antichrist and all those that take the mark of the beast.
Was Noah saved before , mid, after the flood .... Was Lot saved before , mid , after Sodom's destruction .. We will be raptured (GOD will it ) Praise the LORD for rescueing me ... A bad sinner like me .. Praise his Mercy
My Son And I Are VERY Much FOCUSED On Spreading The Gospel!!! WE ARE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS...ECCLESIASTES 12:1-14 My FOCUS. In life, nothing matters except knowing and following GOD! We must live our life to fear and know GOD. For GOD will bring every work into judgement, including every secret thing, whether good or evil.
Wow,the lord is at the door, are you ready if not then please get ready one day or hour it could happen then there will be weeping and mashing of teeth may God bless you all......
Here’s a few scriptures folks can copy and paste as needed when responding to folks. Titus 2:13-14 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. John 14:2-3 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Isaiah 57:1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come. Psalms 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock. Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. Zephaniah 2:3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Tracy Spencer Jesus was the first fruits, so it would be hard for someone 600 years prior to be included in this group. Jesus was first then those that died in him (born of the spirit) afterward are his bride. The bride of christ is going to be a special group of people.
@Tracy Spencer, Old Testament saints are resurrected with all other dead believers when all dead people are resurrected upon the Second Coming of Christ.
The church is taken before the tribulation. Old testament and tribulation saints that have died are resurrected at the end of the tribulation. All believers who are still alive at the end of the tribulation, will live on into the millennium, die, and will be resurrected with the rest of the dead at the great white throne.
You know there are two things these people attack us with one is for sure the Rapture and then they are dogmatic on works plus faith. Grace the cross is my belief. In recalling Abraham and Sarah in the mess they made in “helping” (works) God give them a child.. to me lesson learned. I will except his grace any day. Our works or of filthy rags I think we see that everywhere. God bless you men for your teaching! 🙏♥️
"Nessuno può sfuggire il destino scelto. Rimane solo il risultato, e voi sarete distrutti. L'eterna cima esiste solo per me. Puoi cantare canzoni di tristezza nel mondo senza tempo." - Diavolo
I do hope that pre-trib is the way it will be. I listen to Irvin Baxter who makes a good case for post trib, and that the second coming and rapture are one and the same. The main thing is to make sure you are ready and that your name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life!
7389 the rapture and 2nd coming are definitely 2 separate events, and there are many places in the bible to define this, and through my own personal study time, unlike what most ‘post tribbers’ would care to admit to, I can actually see why, where and how the confusion comes in....... 👍🏻🙏🏻
7389, Problem is Irvin cant explaine how the earth gets repopulated during the millinnel kingdom if the rapture occurs at the second coming He only options are to say unsaved people repopulate the earth or there is no repopulation. Both of which are unbiblical.
I believe the ppl with hardened hearts will still have a chance for salvation cuz they r going to notice alllll the ppl that r suddenly gone/raptured n think hmmm. Them ppl actually DO have a clue what they was saying wen they would talk about the bible....ect n they will turn into true believers during the trib. So i hope thats the case cuz i wish no1 harm or hell for ever n ever! ❤💜💛💟😊👍
As i understand...(but i could be wrong.) There will be the 144,000 angels left here on earth to help bring more non believers to christ thru tribulation period....then the final judgement comes after...
@@fourhorsemen3982 the 144,000 are actually young Jewish virgin men, not angels.....12,000 from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel. You can read about them in Revelation chapter 7
Yasss!!👉 FINALLY!!👈this is spot on!!👌 god bless u for this vid!!!❤💜💛💙💟🤝👏👏👏👏👏😊😊😊😁😁😁😁😁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💟❤💜💛 oh btw theres a bibly that was in 150ad that teaches the rapture... wich is way b4 the rapture❤💜💛💟❤💜💛💟😘
Justin Martyr (Christian apologist and post-tribulationist) Justin Martyr (100 to 167 A.D.) lived near the time of the apostle John (died 100 A.D.); Justin taught the resurrection and rapture of believers would occur at the beginning of the millennium (Christ's 1000-year reign, which starts just after the Second Coming). Justin also wrote, "the man of apostasy [Antichrist] ...shall venture to do unlawful deeds on earth against us the Christians" (Trypho cx).
I Most Definitely BELIEVE In The RAPTURE!!! But, NOT Totally Convinced About A Definite Pre, Mid, Or Post Rapture! Somebody's Going To Be WRONG...ONE QUESTION? If The Church Is Taken Out Before The NIGHTMARE Begins Who Will Help ALL The Poor Souls Left Behind. WON'T The World Be A Little Shorthanded?
@@Orange6921 also the angel.... 😊 Revelation chapter 14.... 6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. The Lord has witnessing covered during the tribulation....He won't need us. Amen!
The Lion and his lamb Tribulation is not the term for the 70th week of Daniel,nowhere does it say in scripture that the tribulation and great tribulation are either 3 1/2 yrs each or 7yrs in total. It is a presupposition to apply it to jacobs trouble Exegetically it can’t be taught ,eisegesis has to be applied to endorse your presupposition which is not how you interpret scripture. Therefore the term tribulation saints is not correct,as tribulation means persecution (thilipsis) Jesus uses the term tribulation to describe the period of increasing persecution for believers. Its erroneous to suggest there will be a separate body of people called ‘the tribulation saints ‘ ALL BELIEVERS WILL BE PERSECUTED during that time described in Mathew 24 Can you show me a single verse that shows that believers will escape tribulation??? The major error of pre tribulation believers is the fact that tribulation and wrath mean the same thing. They don’t.Therefore tribulation (persecution)(thilipsis) cannot mean the 7yrs of jacobs trouble or the 70th week of Daniel. Search the Strong’s concordance for more clarity as scripture interpreted using eisegesis is open to ones interpretation which is erroneous. Please provide scriptures that contain evidence of believers escaping tribulation. This is not to attack anyone’s belief, it’s to defend the truth of gods word. Blessings in Jesus
No they are in the presence of god as Jesus proclaimed to them after his death that the sacrifice for sin had been completed. All the righteous Old Testament saints are in paradise now. The blood of animals only covered their sin,once yeshua died for their sins they were able to enter heaven,whereas before the blood sacrifices couldn’t take away sin,that is why they were confined to Abraham’s bosom,awaiting for the promised messiah.
E Jay......their physical bodies are still in the graves.....however their spirits are with the Lord now, as are all believers. They currently have an intermediate body of sorts while in heaven. These bodies of believers in the graves are still awaiting to be transformed from mortal to immortal, and that is what will take place at the rapture of the Church, and at the resurrection of the old testament saints. God did not create us to simply be spirits, but created us to have actual physical bodies. This transformation from mortal to immortal is the glorification of our bodies. Adam and Eve were the only two humans to ever experience immortal bodies.....but that all changed when they disobeyed God. Their bodies went from being immortal to mortal.
I have always been a pre-trib believer, but Rev. 20:5-6 confuses me. Can someone explain this in the context of what was stated in this video? Seems a contradiction. How can that be the first ressurection if the dead in Christ are ressurected at the pre-trib Rapture?
@@anthonyferrell7517 Nobody is ressurected before tribulation. The passage in revelation 7 is the rapture of the church, once the church are in heaven, the trumpet judgements begin the wrath of God.(7th seal) The doctrine of the tribulation saints is taken out of proportion, They make up this separate group of believers because it doesn't make sense to them and doesn't fit the pre tribulation rapture idea. The term tribulation saints is made up They are the persecuted faithful believers just before the rapture. Jesus warns this will happen before his return for the bride The pre tribulation rapture believer can not account for 2 thessollonians 2 or the elect in Mathew 24. There is no scripture in the entire Bible the says believers will escape tribulation. They also don't understand that the tribulation period is not the entire 7yrs. They also make wrath and tribulation synonymous
The dead in Christ are risen FIRST and THEN those who are alive and remain will follow-I stopped watching after I heard them say the living are raptured first ... "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17
The problem with having so much hope on this raptor hope and not paying attention on being ready for we do not know the day or the hour, is when nothing happens you people will lose hope of your lies. Just be ready period.
Only righteous old testament saints are raised after the second coming, they will inherit the kingdom the others will not and be sent for eternal punishment Daniel 12v1&2
Can someone explain to me why the Old Testament believers are to be raptured at the second coming? I thought that the dead in Christ rise first. Wouldn't the Old Testament believers be considered the dead in Christ?
Because Israel had rejected god most of their history,God always said he would keep his covenants with them Ezekiel 16. However,the true Israel of god were those who believed in his messiah Jesus.These are the true Israel of God,the Israel God intended them to be. He has not forgotten the promises to the nation and has to fulfil them,this is the regeneration of Israel before the end of jacobs trouble. But because there was always remnant of real Jewish believers who accepted Christ,there also will be a national repentance of what’s left of Israel after the persecution of antichrist.You have two different bodies of people. Israel the wife of jehovah,and the church or bride of Christ containing Jew and gentile. Being born again of the spirit was only possible after the death of Jesus,and this separates the new covenant from the old covenant. Abraham’s faith was considered righteousness. His faith in god and the resurrection was why he sacrificed Isaac,isaac would have been around 30yrs old and could have resisted.So faith was shown by works and moral living in the Old Testament and also of course in the sacrificial system for sin. The resurrection of the Old Testament saints occurs just before the millennium.The righteous saints are now with Christ and the unrighteous are still in Hades. There’s more to it than that but I hope this helps.
I am confused.. I thought when the rapture happened that all saints will come out of their graves, including the O.T. saints. Can some one explain this to me..why is the rapture only for New Testament saints.
Israel is redeemed on the last day job talked about this and John 6 40 and Mary and Martha also talked about this. Job 19 25 , John 11 3 27 What you have to remember is the church and Israel are two separate programs with different destination during the millinnel kingdom. The church is a new creature in christ 2nd Corinthians 5 17 gal 3 26 29 . Also Daniel's 70th week is for Daniel's people and holy city. Daniel's people are israel Jews not the church. Daniel 9 24
@T A yes jesus was first fruits of those who sleep 1st Corinthians 15 20 23 so anyone who has died after jesus are that were are believers are the ones being reserected. Now why the old testament saints are reserected at the second coming just guessing here but I'd say its because the Jews rejected the messiah at his first coming and jesus stated you will not see me again till you say blessed is he who comes in the name of the lord. Also Israel as a nation has to be fully restored to the borders God promised abraham and the descendants as an everlasting possession from the Nile river to the Euphrates river genesis 12 1 3 genesis 15 and 17 The last day of this age is the second coming Contrast the church has no part in the abrahamic covenant the land covenant we are a new creature in christ. The Jewish people at this point in time are still under the law the new covenant only applies to them that are in christ galatians 3 26 29 that's the whole purpose of Daniel's 70th week being future God is going to use that week to bring a remnant of the Jewish people into his kingdom. Remember the deciples asked jesus if he was going to restore the kingdom at that time and jesus told them it is not for them to know. Acts 1 6 Remember in john 5 43 jesus said you dont accept me but when one comes in his own name him you'll accept. Well that ties into Daniel 9 24 27 the 70 weeks. What amazes me is prophecy is like a jigsaw puzzle and every piece fits into a spific place and time.
@T A We will see them remember they are soul/ spirits in heaven with Jesus right now but my understanding is their souls dont return with jesus when he comes for his bride 1st thessalonians 4 13 16 they will be reserected along with the tribulation saints in rev 20 4 on the last day.
If you're looking forward toward anything other than this rescue operation, you are attached. We can implore you to get detached, but we shouldn't have to. Looking to make a buck tomorrow? Looking forward to that opulent cruise? Waiting for that stock to turn in attempt to reap a profit? The parable of 10 comes to mind, but only five made it. Those who belong are guided by the spirit as to how to conduct oneself.
Ehh no.. that doesn't work. Matthew 25 is not for Christians. It's for Jews after Daniels 70th week. 2 Timothy 2:11-13 KJV It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him : [12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him : if we deny him, he also will deny us: [13] If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Lost / Unsaved folks cannot understand scriptures as they are spiritual. Most folks who deny a Pre Time of Jacob’s trouble snatching up are unsaved. Then we have some saved that are ignorant as they’ve never studied this subject in depth. Then we have some saved Christians that fall into the end times turning to doctrines of demons and seducing spirits. I pray I never fall into that category. This reminds me of another topic I seen weekly on social media post regarding the 144k in Revelation. Someone is always asking who these people are??????? I guess reading the text wasn’t clear. Then no matter the answer someone will always come along and say “No those aren’t all Jews, that scripture it talking about x y or z”. Boggles the mind.
The pretrib rapture is for the Church only. During the 7 year tribulation God will seal his special 144,000 (young Jewish virgin men) for the sole purpose of protecting them so that they can preach without being harmed. God will also protect the two witnesses who will preach in Jerusalem, but only for a time, and then the Antichrist will kill them. No one else will be protected from harm during that time, certainly not unbelievers, and not new believers who come to faith during that time. Sadly, suffering or death, will be the price these new believers will have to pay for delaying their choice to believe.
Did Noah get on the ark BEFORE the flood DURING the flood, or AFTER the flood? BEFORE the flood, or the wrath of God. Did Lot leave out of Sodom and Gomorrah BEFORE God's wrath, DURING God's wrath, or AFTER God's wrath? He left BEFORE the wrath of God came down. Will the church leave BEFORE, DURING, or AFTER the tribulation period? It will leave BEFORE the wrath of God comes down on the earth for the tribulation period. Just like all the others, BEFORE! It's really not hard to see that God's dealing with the church is different from his dealings with Israel and unbelievers in the end times. Many are not taking the time to really study the difference between the church and Israel. God's dealings with Israel. Jeremiah 30:7, Alas! for that day is great so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble but he shall be saved out of it. Jacob being Israel! God's dealings with his church. Revelation 3:10, Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Luke 21:36, Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass and to stand before the Son of man. Even a young child can understand the difference between being TAKEN OUT OF something and being KEPT FROM something. To be TAKEN OUT OF, you have to be in it. To be KEPT FROM means you were not in it. If I TAKE YOU OUT, OF THE GAME, you would have to be in it. If I KEPT YOU FROM ENTERING THE GAME, then you were not in it. Don't get Israel and the church mixed up! Nobody can stop the rapture from happening whether they believe it, or not. Thank God! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1vMP5grns2I.html
The pre trib rapture is what I was indoctrinated to believe for 27 years since birth ('65), that is until I studied His word by the Holy Spirit, which does not teach that. How we know the positional timing of rapture is by knowing what the true gospel is, which many have forsaken to believe another gospel, which is not another, and deceives many to think they are something they are not...born again to be rapture ready. Know what the true gospel is! (Hos. 4:6) God is: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and these Three are one.
@@Raymond1C: Before I do what you asked, do you understand and agree scripture teaches three ages: the Age of the Angels, the Age of Mankind, and the Millennial Kingdom, that in the Age of Mankind there are three timelines: the Time Past, the Last Days, and the Latter Times aka: the end times? On the Latter Times timeline (end times) lies a 7-yr period called, the Latter Days. It's in the Latter Days two tribulations occur: 1) the tribulation of those days (the latter days), and 2) great tribulation (immediately after the tribulation of those days). After these tribulations then comes rapture as told us in 1 Thess. 4:16-17. After rapture then comes His wrath, ending the second age, and then Satan is bound a thousand years in the bottomless pit when the third age begins, that after the thousand years are expired, Satan is loosed a little season. (Rev. 20:4 are those tribulation saints of the second age). It then says "the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection" (vs. 5). What I personally see this to mean (I'm not dogmatic) is that not until the thousand years are finished are those dead (those not born again of the third age) become born again. The first resurrection are all those in Christ that make up His Church, from the Old Testament to when the thousand years are finished in the third age. The end of the world comes at the end of the third age, after Satan is loosed for a little season, and then he is thrown into the lake of fire for ever and ever. This is what I see scripture teaches. If you have more insight then please share, as I am willing and ready and wanting to be corrected if need be. In Christ, Greg
@@Raymond1C I received your last comment, but I was only able to read part of it, and for some reason I cannot access it as I did with your other comments, to reply to them. I don't know if you would like to to do this or not, but here is my email address: gregdanielson65@gmail.com If you would like to continue to dialogue about this topic could you please resend your last comment to my email address so I can read it in full, and then reply, that is, if you are willing? Blessings
Your first question to your guest, was he referencing 1 Corr 15 when he said (in the twinkling of an eye)?? He left out the rest (at the sound of the last trump), look up that word (last) in your strongs concordance, it means furthest out, final, end. So that means he believes that the trump of God in 1 Thess 4 and the last trump in 1 Corr 15 are the same trump. There are 7 trumpets in Revelation and the seventh is Rev 11:15 and compare that to Zec 9:10 which we all know is the second advent and not the secrete rapture. That's why I don't believe that particular view.
Hello, I would like to ask about Revelation 9:15. It says the four angels were prepared for an hour, a day, a month and a year for to slay third part of man. Sounds like this is a time appointed, so it figures in my mind that there is a timeline appointed that does not fit into the last gentile saved. ??? What does that verse mean?
The Lord will not save his church from tribulation but from the GREAT tribulation. Daniel 12:1-7 and Revelation 12:14 show this happening near the middle of Daniel’s 70th week, and 2 Thessalonians 2 shows how the Antichrist will manifest once the church is taken away (literal Greek says transformed out of the middle).
His analogy, of a pregnant women, child birth happens, after contractions or the birth pangs which tribulation is apart of. ) Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of SORROWS.
So after the rapture and the 1000 year reign and satan is thrown in the lake of fire and we goto the new world and heaven forever and ever ... will the holy angels be there too?
Yes, the angels will be living with us in the Eternal States as well. For info on the New Jerusalem, check out www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_eternity2.php.
Im tired of escapism preached this days. One simple question: At the wedding ceremony is having acces only the pretrib ones...those who will die in great trib and the saints gattered from the 4 winds have not?🤔
Their first error is that they separate the 2nd coming of Christ from the rapture. There is not a single scripture used in its proper context that supports this. Next they talk about a 2-stage second coming, with the second part being 7 years after the first part. Again, not a single scripture to support this. At about 3:10-3:15 he tramples all over 2 Thessalonians 1:10. If the church is raptured before the actual coming of the Lord, then WHO is He going to be admired by and glorified in? At 3:51 Revelation 1:7 & Matthew 24:30-31 are violated. And Matthew 29 says that this event is after the tribulation. At around 8:20 they make the assumption that tribulation and the wrath of God are one and the same. Scripture does not reconcile the two. Jesus told His disciples "In this world you WILL have tribulation". At around 8:28 he violates Revelation 3:10 and makes it fit into his theory rather than accepting it as plainly written, a letter to the church at Philadelphia. Now he is talking about a "T" Tribulation -vs- a "t" tribulation. How many dead Christians does it take to constitute a "T" Tribulation? Millions were killed during the first couple hundred years of demon-inspired islam. Around 10:24 they talk about Revelation 15 and how "the wrath of God is complete". However, this still does not dispute that we go up as He comes down to take vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. At 12:12--Please tell the millions of Christians who were beheaded for their faith at the hands of islam, the Christians who were used for torches and fed to the lions by the Romans, the Chinese Christians tortured for their faith, etc. that "they are going to be taken out before all this happens". Around 14:40 he claims that the pre-trib rapture teaching is a "Re-awakening of what Jesus and the apostles taught". However, when we scour through the written teachings of Jesus and the apostles, there is no pre-trib rapture doctrine taught. The pre-trib rapture doctrine is a "THEORY", not a fact. It cannot be proven without taking scripture out of context and making it fit into the preconceived mold of a pre-tribulation rapture. Around 14:51 he claims that this THEORY comes from a "Literal interpretation of the scriptures". But if it were "literal" why do we have to patch it together with scriptures taken out of context? Could you please produce a single scripture IN CONTEXT which states that the RAPTURE and the SECOND COMING are 2 separate happenings and that the rapture will happen before the tribulation? World history shows that the tribulation started a long time ago. 16:58 shows a glimmer of truth: "and PEOPLE began to develop the idea of the rapture". Scripture plainly teaches what is and what isn't NT church doctrine. It doesn't need to be developed by people. Around 19:56 they start talking about Jesus' comment about coming as a thief. What they ignore is that Jesus repeats this statement right between the 6th and 7th bowl judgments. So do you think He is coming at that point or before the first bowl is poured out? At 19:15 he talks about 1 Thessalonians 5 but skips over a very important part of this passage: "But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief." Read the passage for yourself and then notice that "this day" is the same day mentioned in verse 2, and is the day of the Lord. But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. Paul is saying that the day of the Lord will catch the unbeliever like a thief in the night, but the believer will not be surprised by His sudden appearing. They will both be here, but we should be ready for Him! Again, this is reinforced by 2 Thessalonians chapter 1. 22:44 he uses the examples of Noah and Lot to show how we will be taken out before the destruction comes. 2 very important things he forgets to mention: 1. Both the flood and the destruction of Sodom were God pouring out His wrath, not just tribulation. 2. Both Noah and Lot were taken out right before the destruction hit. These both coincide with 2 Thessalonians chapter 1-"When He comes in that day" Their final point around 23:30- Once the church is gone there will be no more people saved from the wrath of God. Not a single scripture available in context to even surmise this theory.
Though we disagree with your conclusions, we appreciate you sending us your end time interpretation. Praise the Lord that Christ's gift of salvation is not dependent on one's eschatological viewpoints. For information on why we believe the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is the best argument for the timing of the Rapture, please check out these articles on our website at www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_rapture7.php and www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_rapture4.php and our “Christ in Prophecy” shows posted at www.lamblion.com/television/programs.php#Rapture. We also have two short Inbox videos explaining the Rapture at christinprophecy.org/sermons/the-inbox-20-is-the-rapture-and-second-coming-the-same-event/ and christinprophecy.org/sermons/the-inbox-21-why-do-i-believe-in-a-pre-trib-rapture/.
The rapture is the Resurrection of the saints. There is no Resurrection of the dead in Matt 24, Mark 13, Rev 19 or ANY of the 2nd coming verses. IN fact the saints are seen already standing with Christ in heaven just before the second coming in Rev 19.
@@Orange6921 Jesus wasn't addressing the resurrection of the dead. However, Paul shows us the order in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17. When Jesus comes, the dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive will be caught up to meet Him in the air. The saints seen already standing with Christ are the spirits who have already died, not the resurrected bodies. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. When we die, our spirit doesn't go wait in Purgatory or Hades for the return of Jesus. When Jesus comes for His bride, we get our new resurrected body. You cannot enter heaven in this mortal body. Also, you could look at the 3 sets of judgments as 3 different pictures/views of the judgments being poured out upon the earth. Notice a clue between the 6th and seventh judgment in each description: Seals-A multitude of Jews and Gentiles in Heaven. Trumpets-The mystery of God (the church) is finished. Bowls- "Behold, I am coming as a thief". And did you realize that Jesus Himself declared that Tribulation worse than there ever has been since the creation and ever will be will start when the temple was destroyed in 70A.D.? Do a study of history and see how many millions of Christians were murdered because they would not deny Jesus when the demon-inspired false religion of islam spread throughout the world in its first few hundred years. Look at what happened to Christians at the hands of the Romans-fed to lions, burned as torches. And many other phases of tribulation have happened since these days. Some of these are the ones John saw under the altar in Revelation 6. Please produce one single scripture which absolutely divides the coming of the Lord into 2 phases or parts or different times. The pre-trib rapture doctrine is a theory. But we are not supposed to make scripture fit our theories, we are supposed to allow scripture to form our theories. The pre-trib rapture theory can only be shown by taking a scripture here and another there and piecing them all together to fit into the mold. When the same scriptures are taken in context, they actually produce a mold of their own. This is how NT church doctrine is properly formed. God bless!
@@PastorZeke33 That is exactly how prophecy is put together in the Bible. A little here, a little there, line upon line, precept upon precept. Prophecy is scattered around the entire Bible, the whole point it to pice the event together from ALL the Bible. Jesus was SPECIFICALLY speaking of the 2nd coming in Matt 24 and said noting of the Resurrection of the dead, nor does any other key 2nd coming passage such as Mark 13, Rev 19, Ezekiel 39 or Zechariah 14. You trying to place the Resurrection/rapture at the 2nd coming is an attmept to add event not written in Scripture. It also ignore the fact the Rev 19 shows the saints already with Christ in Heaven before the 2nd coming happens. Those reasons alone should be enough to raise serious red flags on a post trib rapture, but we actually have many other scriptural points than that.
Can you imagine being that LAST gentile in Heaven? All of us will be pointing fingers at him/her saying: "We waited all this time because of you 🥴🤪😂😅👌? That's too funny! Hehe just kidding you guys 😂😉 Maranatha friends!
This is the very reason why the Holy Scripture is in the possession of this world for the world to understand the TRUTH and NOT to determine your own kind of TRUTH. Dont analyze and dont study to be able to generate your own truth. Receive the truth that is being revealed because what is revealed is the Wisdom of God. Simply know 3 things and these 3 things if discovered is enough enough to know what is revealed.
Watch for the rapture on the Feast of Trumpets (some year) the next of the 7 Feasts (Appointed Days of our Lord) that are to be fulfilled in their order. At the last trump.
You almost had it! You got half, then fell short. Nathan, you quoted Revelation 6:1&2. Great! This it where the Lamb, Jesus, opens the first seal and releases the antichrist. The 2nd part is 2Thessalonians 3-8. This is where the restrainer is taken out of the way (the Holy Spirit and the in dwelt church). If you put these two together, you now have a great argument the rapture occurs before the tribulation. When Jesus opens the first seal, Thessalonians says the church and indwelt Holy Spirit are gone! Why is it no one I’ve ever heard has taught these two together? Even in this Q&A you got sidetracked by worrying about the wrath! Get over that and look at what scripture is telling you point blank!
Karen Dobrowolski, I love Rev 5: 9-10 which shows those from *every* kindred, tongue, people, and nation *before* Jesus opens the seals! I also love that I am in Rev 1: 5 and not 7: 14. Jesus washed me, I don't have to wash myself!
@@becca6651 yes, the 24 elders are clearly a part of the church. They have their rewards too, their crowns and positions. They also have their bodies, the place the crowns sit upon. They sing a song that only the church can sing, as kings and(+) priests which is only for Christ and the church. Fact is, John got there after the rapture. Jesus isn't standing at the door at that point, but the door has been opened already Rev 4: 1. What we are really seeing here is the marriage of the Lamb. That sealed document is a scroll, a deed, an inheritance, as the first Adam lost. Just like that deed Boaz obtained for Ruth to make her his bride. Jesus is our kinsman redeemer just as Boaz was for Ruth. We are there at the wedding just as Ruth was for Boaz. Once Jesus obtains that scroll, He has full authority to purge the earth and establish His Davidic covenant throne. What John sees is a sequence of visions (spanning months or years) as the scroll is promptly opened in moments. There is no doubt we are all there, it is a legal process with every i dotted and t croseed. Look up!
I’m confused when Tim says Old Testament believers will be raised at the second coming and that the believers alive will be raptured. Scripture states those that have died as believers will be raised first and then those alive will meet them in the sky. Wouldn’t the OT believers be part of the dead to rise first? Or didn’t Jesus take them up after the cruxifixction when he went down to “paradise” to get the believers?
The Bible lists 3 stages to the resurrection of the redeemed. Jesus was the first (1 Cor. 15:20), next the Church just before the Tribulation (1 Cor. 15:23), and thirdly at the end of the Tribulation the saints who died during the Tribulation and Old Testament saints (Rev. 20:4; Dan. 12:1-2). The resurrection of the unjust all throughout history will occur at the Great White Throne Judgment at the end of the 1000 year Millennial Kingdom (Rev. 20:11-15). For more on the various resurrections, check out www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_eternity4.php.
@@carlynunez2075, the "dead in Christ" are those who died during the Church Age - from Pentecost to the Rapture. Only the Church (meaning all of those who are saved) is "in Christ."
@@ChristInProphecy Doesn't the verse below imply that the old testament saints were also "in Christ" since "they look forward to Christ?" Just asking. Hebrews 11:26 He(Moses) regarded disgrace FOR THE SAKE OF CHRIST as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. - NIV Hebrews 11:26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. - KJV
What we all need to realize is talk about rapture is an "In house" discussion. Talking about rapture to a non believer takes the focus off Christ and the cross. Arguments about the timing of rapture within Christianity only causes harm to the body. Who cares when the rapture happens. If its pre trib then great. If its mid or post trib then great. I am a believe in Christ and when I get to heaven is up to God.
Through faith we are saved but Jesus did tell some of hia servants i never knew you becouse Jesus is in the poor and the sick and we dont visit Jesus in the widow rhe sick and needy the old man the bagger we need that we see the graditude of Jesus when we help the poor and of course try to save them by teaching Jesus and of course train them not to sin
Matthew 27:52:53 Many bodies of the saints how had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of their tombs after His Resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many. Jesus led captivity captive.
Our flesh and blood can not enter Heaven. So by reading 1 Cor 15 we see the Dead are raised INCORRUPTIBLE, that only means without our corrupt flesh, as Spirit men, thus when it says later that we who are alive will be CHANGED in a flash, it means we will DIE..........Then our Spirit man goes to be wit the Lord {without our corruptible sin flesh}. Its really a lot simpler than people realize, So no, we do not ZOOM to meet the Lord in the sky, we DIE and our Spirit man goes to be with the Lord where we will receive our new, Glorious bodies.
Though we disagree with your conclusions, we appreciate you sending us your end time interpretation. Praise the Lord that Christ's gift of salvation is not dependent on one's eschatological viewpoints. For information on why we believe the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is the best argument for the timing of the Rapture, please check out these articles on our website at www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_rapture7.php and www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_rapture4.php and our “Christ in Prophecy” shows posted at www.lamblion.com/television/programs.php#Rapture. We also have two short Inbox videos explaining the Rapture at christinprophecy.org/sermons/the-inbox-20-is-the-rapture-and-second-coming-the-same-event/ and christinprophecy.org/sermons/the-inbox-21-why-do-i-believe-in-a-pre-trib-rapture/.
@@ChristInProphecy No thanks but thanks for the offer. I've studied Scripture for fifty years and the word rapture isn't even in the Bible and there is no time duration mentioned in the Bible concerning the time of Jacobs trouble. If you want to quote me Biblical evidence, by all means go ahead but all i have to say is, keep teaching this rubbish and all you will hear is, "I never knew you". In vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men. I have no doubt you keep the popes day instead of the true Sabbath. also. The mark of the beast will be upon you for this teaching that is contrary to Scripture. Watch Sure Word Prophecy on youtube if you doubt my word....May GOD forgive your blasphemy and set you on the less traveled way.
@@davidshepherd2107 That is a terrible weak argument. The Word Bible isn't in the Bible, neither is the word Trinity. These are English words that did not exist in centuries past, or course they would not be in the bible. If you study the NT in the original greek, you do see the word Harpazo for rapture. Furthermore there is not a single verse in the entire NT commanding Christians to worship on any set day or Sabbath keeping. Nor is there a single verse that connects such things to your salvation.
I should rip out all the passages in my bible to the Jews from Revelation 6 to 19 if I believe in the pre tribulation rapture and other passages to the Jews , I will make a pre tribulation rapture bible with those passages taken out as why believe in bible prophecy if the rapture is not post tribulational which resurrection is it first or second Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them 1 Thessalonians 4 and 1 Corinthians 15 do not have in the text clearly this happens before the tribulation it is not in the text. When you actually look at the texts it does not state that 1 Corinthians 15 is in the context of Resurrection passage Creating a false dichotomy between the second coming passages and the so called rapture passages that does not exist It is so good being in a pre tribulation echo chamber I would love to deal with Ron Rhodes objection as if you understand English etymology comfort (v.) late 13c., conforten "to cheer up, console, soothe when in grief or trouble," from Old French conforter "to comfort, to solace; to help, strengthen," from Late Latin confortare "to strengthen much" (used in Vulgate), from assimilated form of Latin com-, here probably an intensive prefix (see com-), + fortis "strong" (see fort). Change of -n- to -m- began in English 14c. There is some uses of English where people use to comfort people with spears The Greek word is παρακαλέω par-ak-al-eh'-o it means a near call. The worst use is typology using John as an example of the church as he goes up and down from heaven like a yo-yo in the book of revelation but the clear passage in revelation 1 you ignore Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Then not understanding the phrase the wrath of god 1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, You miss out the words to obtain salvation , do a search the greek word ὀργή is always used opposed to salvation As most people who believe in the pre tribulation only read chapters 4 and 5 of 1 Thessalonians you miss 1 Thessalonians 3 1Th 3:2 And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you, and to comfort you concerning your faith: 1Th 3:3 That no man should be moved by these afflictions: for yourselves know that we are appointed thereunto. 1Th 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know. 1Th 3:5 For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain. It is embarrassing the level of bible study if the doctrine of immency is true why didn’t the rapture happen during the first century. There is no scripture to say that the regathering of Israel had to happen so that the rapture happened You also clearly did not research the Latin vulgate either 1th4.14For this we say unto you in the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them who have slept. si enim credimus quod Iesus mortuus est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo 1th4. 15For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven with commandment and with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet of God: and the dead who are in Christ shall rise first. hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini quia nos qui vivimus qui residui sumus in adventum Domini non praeveniemus eos qui dormierunt 1th4.16Then we who are alive, who are left, shall be taken up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ, into the air: and so shall we be always with the Lord. 1th4.17Wherefore, comfort ye one another with these words. deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus The word rapiemur is not even associated with it as in verse 17 not 15 The word resurrexit is used. 1th4.14For this we say unto you in the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them who have slept. si enim credimus quod Iesus mortuus est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo The rapture is the resurrection and it happens at the end of the tribulation at the second coming
Irenaeus against heresies 4. And therefore throughout all time, man, having been moulded at the beginning by the hands of God, that is, of the Son and of the Spirit, is made after the image and likeness of God: the chaff, indeed, which is the apostasy, being cast away; but the wheat, that is, those who bring forth fruit to God in faith, being gathered into the barn. And for this cause tribulation is necessary for those who are saved, that having been after a manner broken up, and rendered fine, and sprinkled over by the patience of the Word of God, and set on fire [for purification], they may be fitted for the royal banquet. As a certain man of ours said, when he was condemned to the wild beasts because of his testimony with respect to God: “I am the wheat of Christ, and am ground by the teeth of the wild beasts, that I may be found the pure bread of God.” Irenaeus against heresies when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that “many coming from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” Irenaeus against heresies 1. Inasmuch, therefore, as the opinions of certain [orthodox persons] are derived from heretical discourses, they are both ignorant of God’s dispensations, and of the mystery of the resurrection of the just, and of the [earthly] kingdom which is the commencement of incorruption, by means of which kingdom those who shall be worthy are accustomed gradually to partake of the divine nature (capere Deum ); and it is necessary to tell them respecting those things, that it behoves the righteous first to receive the promise of the inheritance which God promised to the fathers, and to reign in it, when they rise again to behold God in this creation which is renovated, and that the judgment should take place afterwards. For it is just that in that very creation in which they toiled or were afflicted, being proved in every way by suffering, they should receive the reward of their suffering; and that in the creation in which they were slain because of their love to God, in that they should be revived again; and that in the creation in which they endured servitude, Teurtullin over a human being at any rate, if allowed her over a silly sheep. Enoch no doubt was translated, and so was Elijah; nor did they experience death: it was postponed, (and only postponed,) most certainly: they are reserved for the suffering of death, that by their blood they may extinguish Antichrist. Even John underwent death, although concerning him there had prevailed an ungrounded expectation that he would remain alive until the coming of the Lord. Heresies, indeed, for the most part spring hurriedly into existence, from examples furnished by ourselves: they procure their defensive armour from the very place which they attack. The whole question resolves itself, in short, into this challenge: Where are to be found the men whom Menander himself has baptized? Instructions of Commodius Ye who are to be inhabitants of the heavens with God-Christ, hold fast the beginning, look at all things from heaven. Let simplicity, let meekness dwell in your body. Be not angry with thy devout brother without a cause, for ye shall receive whatever ye may have done from him. This has pleased Christ, that the dead should rise again, yea, with their bodies; and those, too, whom in this world the fire has burned, when six thousand years are completed, and the world has come to an end. The heaven in the meantime is changed with an altered course, for then the wicked are burnt up with divine fire. The creature with groaning burns with the anger of the highest God. Those who are more worthy, and who are begotten of an illustrious stem, and the men of nobility under the conquered Antichrist, according to God’s command Didache for when lawlessness increases, they shall hate and persecute and betray one another, and then shall appear the world-deceiver as Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands, and he shall do iniquitous things which have never yet come to pass since the beginning. Then shall the creation of men come into the fire of trial, and many shall be made to stumble and shall perish; but those who endure in their faith shall be saved from under the curse itself. And then faith will not profit you, if you are not made perfect in the last time. For in the last days false prophets and corrupters shall be multiplied, and the sheep shall be turned into wolves, and love shall be turned into hate; for when lawlessness increases, they shall hate and persecute and betray one another, and then shall appear the world-deceiver as Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands, and he shall do iniquitous things which have never yet come to pass since the beginning. Then shall the creation of men come into the fire of trial, and many shall be made to stumble and shall perish; but those who endure in their faith shall be saved from under the curse itself. And then shall appear the signs of the truth: first, the sign of an outspreading in heaven, then the sign of the sound of the trumpet. And third, the resurrection of the dead--yet not of all, but as it is said: "The Lord shall come and all His saints with Him." Then shall the world see the Lord coming upon the clouds of heaven.
Those saved during the Tribulation will be "ground with the tribulus". The wheat referring to Israel who will ALL be saved then. The dispensation of tribulation saints will know the EXACT DAY of Christ's return as it will be 1260 days after the abomination of desolation. Not so the rapture.
I was raised in the man made pre trib rapture until I learned the truth. The Bible is clear that Yeshua will not return for His church until after the tribulation and the Antichrist. 2 Thessalonians.
The church doesn't get raptured before those who are asleep 1 thessalonians 4:15. Idk where the idea of a pre-trib rapture began but it is not biblical at all. Paul tells us of the mystery in 1 Corinthians 15:51&52, 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed-52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the deadwill be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. In verse 52 he says at the last trumpet, speaking of the 7th trumpet spoken of in Revelation. More evidence behind this is found in Revelation 10:5-7. The important part that I'm looking at is verse 7 though. Which says; 7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mysteryof God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets. This verse tells us about the accomplishment of the mystery just before the 7th trumpet is sounded. The arguement of a pre-trib rapture is from 1 thessalonians 5:9, which basically says that God has not appointed us to wrath, which is correct but it's His wrath we are not appointed for. His wrath is the 7 plagues or the 7 bowls filled with God's wrath. So brother's and sister's in Christ stand firm and strong in your faith. Troubling times are coming before us, but trust God always. If you managed to read all of this have a blessed day!
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@@deltadom33 Why would you? You don't want to hear about the 2nd coming and the details of the tribulation of the tribulation? There sure will be countless tribulation saints who will want to.
@@Orange6921 I was trying to make a point that if you believe in the pre tribulation rapture you may aswell rip out all the passages to the Jews out of your bible including revelation 6- 19 Why talk about the second coming if you are never going to see it or the antichrist , what is the point or things like the mark of the beast or the seals or the bowl judgements
Literally the Bible says, the Lord Jesus comes after the tribulation and not before! The Bible does not say, that the rapture and the second coming are separate, these men lie!
@@smiling5683 The Revelation of Jesus Christ 3:10 says, nothing of the Lord coming, before the tribulation, in fact John was in tribulation and was writing to his companions in tribulations and all the seven churches were suffering tribulations. John gives the description of the Lord Jesus coming in chapter 1 of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, to the churches, in which Philadelphia is one of those seven, so they are expecting His coming, to be like this and this is a direct parallel, of the same description, Jesus gave in Mat. 24, which is after the tribulation.) Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and THEN shall ALL the TRIBES of the earth MOURN, and they shall SEE the Son of man COMING in the CLOUDS of heaven with power and great glory. Rev 1:4 John TO THE SEVEN churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is TO COME; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; Rev 1:7 Behold, HE COMETH with CLOUDS; and EVERY eye shall SEE HIM, and they also which pierced him: and ALL KINDREDS of the earth shall WAIL, because of him. Even so, Amen
@@thetruthimpart Revelation 3:10: " Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." Luke 21:36 "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." The Lord Christ Bless you my friend :)
@@smiling5683 Neither does Luke 21, say the Lord Jesus is coming, before the tribulation, pre-trib is notorious, for taking things out of context . He just told them, that they would go, through the tribulation and would be their testimony, so Luke 21:36 is not talking, of escaping the tribulation but the sins, that keep men from watching, for His coming, the day of the Lord. That day, the day heaven and earth pass away.)) Luk 21:33 Heaven and earth SHALL PASS AWAY: but my words shall not pass away. Luk 21:34 And TAKE HEED to yourselves, LEST AT ANY TIME your hearts BE overcharged WITH surfeiting, AND drunkenness, AND cares of this life, and SO THAT DAY COME upon YOU UNAWARES. Luk 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Luk 21:36 WATCH ye therefore, AND PRAY always, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Act 5:41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were COUNTED WORTHY to suffer shame for his name 2Th 1:5 Which is a MANIFEST TOKEN OF the RIGHTEOUS judgment of God, that ye may be COUNTED WORTHY of the kingdom of God, for which YE ALSO SUFFER:
It sure would be Nice if you people would stick to Gods Words in the bible..instead of fussing over men's opinions and an old mans dream. God gave the OT people 10 commandments and told them Not to add to or subtract from those 10..so what did they Do? They added 613 more! You people do the same thing. Take Jesus commandments in Matthew 5 6 7 and add all your Men's opinions..and believe men's opinions and don't even know what Jesus Said. You are Clueless! Jesus Said..to Live one day at a time..Forgive the past..Live Today..don't live in the future..He does not know the future. "Sufficient Unto the day is the evil thereof.". You are wasting your time in anxious expectations and disappointment every day.. over some old mans dream. You deserve it..if you are not even going to believe Jesus.
These deceivers are confounded, by their own false teachings. Like, why would Jesus come and do a u-turn and then tell you, this is exactly, what He does, after the tribulation at the second coming.
I believe that technology can be used in a good way or bad, and that people worship technology more than bible, and man made stuff like cars which pollution and carbon monoxide is harmful to earth and every living thing on earth.
what a lie about old testament believers and it is just for those alive at that time. The resurrection happens, before anyone that is alive is caught up.
Revelation is written in a spiral or think of the timeline like a DNA helix... but you need to look down into the spiral (like looking down a barrel of a gun and you see the ballistic lines) the top of the barrel or spiral is happening in Heaven and the bottom of the spiral is happening on earth.. and the spiral is going forward in time in heaven and it loops down and back in time on earth. I know it is difficult but God likes spirals. He is a master at math.
So match up the verses with a spiral and you can see the timeline better. I'm a very spacial thinker and test 3 times higher than most men. It's the way I think and God gave me the vision.
There is not one verse, for an imminent return, before the tribulation. every verse, that talks of the Lord Coming, as a thief is talking, of the second coming and nowhere is it written of a pre-trib. rapture.
@@djayfriMusic Reproof when is the wedding - Rev. 19 is part of the vision of the judgment, of the great whore and she is judged then She, His Wife is clothed, for the wedding and not leaving a wedding, and it is after these things and not 3 or 7 years before the tribulation as Pre-trib. says and does not agree on exactly how many years.) Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will SHEW unto thee THE JUDGEMENT OF the great whore that sitteth upon many waters Rev 18:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. Rev 19:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, SAYING, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: Rev 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: FOR the MARRIAGE of the Lamb IS COME, ((This is present tense or now, after these things)) and his wife hath made herself ready - (Ready for the wedding, and it IS after the tribulation and the judgment of the great whore not before. ) Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom CAME; and they that were READY WENT IN with him TO THE MARRIAGE: and the door was shut. (Does the wedding happen after these things, as the Bible, says or what your false teaching says?)
@@djayfriMusic 2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled REST WITH US, WHEN the Lord Jesus shall be revealed FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS ,2Th 1:10 WHEN he shall come to be GLORIFIED IN HIS SAINTS, and to be admired IN ALL THEM that believe (because our testimony among you was believed ) in THAT DAY. (The day He glorifies His Saint and all believers, Paul refers to a specific day, when Jesus comes with angels. When is this? No, you are deceived and deceiving.
Well, I have looked for the word RAPTURE in the Word of the Lord, I can not find it. Since God said not to add to his Word or take away from his Word, I am thinking Rapture is a MAN MADE word. There is the way the Lord said it would happen, and man has shortened this to rapture. Read His Word AGAIN!!!
dream team There is a simple explanation for the misunderstanding. Rapture is from the Latin vulgate from the verb rapio which means to catch up or take away. After the vulgate was translated into Greek ,they used the word Harpazo which means snatch away or caught up. Harpazo is found in many places throughout the New Testament, it’s used 13 times. It in there but translated into Greek
top 10 rapture youtubers: the pastor with beard, this lady , brazilian lady, the guy who draw stuff and display, indian lady, glass lady, texas dialect guy, etc.
Notice. He kept Noah on the earth during a wild judgement of mankind. It was a boat not to be tsken up. Also, the end will come after the Gospel wil be preached as a witness to all nations. The only witnesses are those that did signs wonder and miracles on Jesus's name. So prepare for the greatest revival ever on earth. What good will you be up in heaven for those on earth?
