12 November: On this day in 1990, Tim Berners-Lee proposes World Wide Web. From QI Series I, Episode 06 - 'Inventive' With Bill Bailey, Nina Conti, Gran, Sean Lock and Alan Davies For more visit qi.com
Stephen Fry is wrong about one thing. The first sequence of characters sent across the Internet was in fact LOL. The "Lo" from the first attempted "Logon" request was sent and did not complete when it crashed, but when it started up again, it re-sent "Logon", which means that another "L" followed the failed "Lo" of the first logon. The first three characters sent, therefore, were LOL.
1) Which part of "The first three characters sent, therefore, were LOL" (directly quoted from my post above) do you not understand? The first 3 characters of "lologin" are "lol". 2) While true, it is also intended as a joke. I imagine it went way over your head.
Brian Sammond which part of ''the computer crashed after LO'' don't you get. You distorted that so ur joke would work even though it didn't go down that way. Stephen even said it WASN'T LOL but there u are still tryin to be a 6th grade comedien.
Back then it was used for universities to share research information but since it wasn't monitored students ended up using it to communicate with students at other universities, that is why the very first item ever bought/sold over the Internet was in fact a bag of marijuana.
@@peterclarke7240 Even more nauseous and more illegal than marijuana, the first thing to be sold on the internet was in fact a copy of Ten Summoner's Tales by Sting.
I remember when I was at uni we got a talk from a guy from British intelligence trying to recruit us mathematicians into the service... he claimed that GCHQ had actually invented (or come close to inventing) the internet back in the 50s or early 60s... they just didn't do anything with it because they didn't personally have the resources to pursue it, and weren't convinced of its viability anyway - and of course, heaven forbid they actually TELL anyone about it who might be able to do something with it. No idea how true it is - again, it was essentially coming as part of a sales pitch, could just be a load of hot air. But I found it an amusing notion at least.
Go to Bletchley Park and learn how the internet, together with packet switching, was taken from them by the Americans and claimed as their own. The film of he actual inventors describing how they felt is very upsetting.
Bollocks. It was NOT invented by Bletchley Park. The real trick to TCP/IP (and earlier ARPANET protocols) is to accept packet loss. This was pioneered in the French Cyclades project.
@@peterfireflylund Go to Bletchly and watch the video interview of the inventors explaining exactly what happened. It is a shame that there are still some people willing to take their hard work and inventiveness away from them.
@@peterfireflylund Sorry you are wrong. It was invented in Bletchley. Go there yourself and see the film evidence. Just trying to insult people does not work.
Who invented the computer? Alan Turing. Who made the internet usable by the public and commerce? Tim Berners-Lee. Who invented Assembly Code? Kathleen Booth, a Brit.
Quite incorrect, QI. Then Australian Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, just before becoming Australia's 28th PM in 2013 claimed the Internet was invented by Malcolm Turnbull, an investment banker and Abbott's communications spokesman. Turnbull later became Australia's 29th PM. Who are we to question the man who is generally considered to be Australia's 2nd worst ever PM?
If you think that dummy's bad you should see the episode with Mark Gatiss! He was just embarrassingly awful and must be one of the few guests never asked back.
I was involved in hacking an international airline message system to create a message board in the 1980's - some involved lost their jobs and I was threatened with prosecution after I crashed SITA by accident.
I stay with Arther C Clark, Who deduced the precise position of the communicating saterlighte from earth. He discussed applying for a patient for his work with his Lawyer, But was advised not to apply for a patient, Be cause there would be little use for his observations. Arther C Clark regretted the decision, It would have made him extremely ritch.
While he obviously did not create the internet from whole cloth (no one person did) Al Gore has a legitimate claim to being one of the internet's key creators and early advocates. Look it up.
Well, the "internet" is a fuzzy thing. There was not a single day where the internet was invented, and at least the design and technlogy is the one inherited from ARPAnet (with improvements of course). At that time, other protocol familes where commonly in use, but today the one started with the ARPAnet is almost the only one remaining, and at least to me that is the "internet" - a set of interconnected networks using the Internet protocol stack.
@@arnoldhau1 The transition from network to internetwork took place between March 1983 when the DOD adopted IPv4 as the standard and January 1 1984 which was the deadline for traffic to use the previous arpnet flat addressing protocol. Until that point, arpnet acted as a single network with all of the traffic relayed to all of the other hosts in the network through dedicated modem lines. Shortly after that, the DOD divested the arpanet backbone to the NSF which regulates it to using private regional carriers with peer access points between carrier networks. Without the change from network to internetwork "the Internet" could not have scaled to what it is today.
@@arnoldhau1 I think it is as good of a point as any. Somebody probably managed to send data to a second network earlier even though rfc1 didn't directly support it. And I don't know exactly when the first connecting networks were actually tied to the arpanet to use its internetworking capabilities once IP4 was established. But the it would have been directly supported by the protocol starting with IP4.
I would’ve said Pete Townshend because in 1970-71, he made the concept of The Grid in his science fiction rock opera called Lifehouse that would’ve been the follow up to Tommy. In the story, The Grid was supposed to be this mainframe that everyone’s pollution suits were plugged into that provided everything they needed from sleeping gas to food and water to entertainment and news etc., so not too far off from the Internet as it exists today. Too bad he couldn’t get the rest of The Who on board with the idea otherwise they would’ve been WAY ahead of their time compared to any other band’s concept albums.
It’s nice at the end of this clip where Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn get name dropped for their work on IPv4. I believe Cerf has also been a big contributor to IPv6. I hope they both live to see IPv6 relieve the IP address shortage that really intensified a few years ago.
@@plainenglishh Wow, I have rarely see anyone on RU-vid display such ignorance and stupidity. The Internet was invented in the 60s. The web and browsers were developed in CERN. I was already using the technologies outside CERN in the early 90s with a primitive, early browser. Berners-Lee chose the term World Wide Web.
All Gore never claimed to have invented the Internet (go back and read what he actually *said* instead of what his opponents claimed he said). What he did do was introduce legislation over a period of decades that significantly aided the development of the Internet, helping put infrastructure for high-speed telecommunications in place, starting at a time when most people were saying "what do you want that for? Nobody's needs anything faster than a 75 bit/sec acoustic modem, and that's only tech nerds not normal people."
Which is pretty much is on the money, literally. The ARPANET was initially funded by the Department of Defence. As time went on, and the internet grew rapidly, universities, research institutions, and eventually companies and organisations took over most of the traffic, but there was a need to fund the infrastructure, the backbones. Gore was actually quite clued in, for a senator. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Computing_Act_of_1991 It was important for the US at , less important some years later when the WWW really took off and the whole thing became commercially viable. For us living in Europe it didn't really matter, we had our own funding, but it was kind of a big deal in the US. Gore should have gotten some cred for being ahead of the game instead of the ridicule.
Nina Conti is brilliant and has actually evolved ventriloquism a bit - buuuut it is still ventriloquism, and a one puppet show is not workable for a modern audience. She would have done quite well to pull out Gran or Monkey for a minute or two, and just been herself for most of the questions.
Ze Rubenator Oooooo, your in a stinky mood! That horrible woman is extremely talented and gorgeous as well. Also her father is an extremely famous and respected actor playing parts in series like "Fawlty Towers" and " The Hitchhikers Huide to the Galaxy". Almost entertainment royalty you are having a dig at here my friend!
Loving all the incels in the comments section having a go at the fabulous Nina Conti. 🙄 This might not have quite been the right _vehicle_ for her, but to deny her obvious talent is pure misogyny.
Misogyny lol. yes because criticising a woman's comedic talent is so wrong and no one is allowed to air their opinions because she has a vagina. grow up
The 'internet' could have used any protocol - there were many. The WWW could have worked just fine on top of any of the others too. The significant invention was the WWW, so it is almost irrelevant who invented the 'internet'.
The Internet Protocol (IP) and the transport layer protocols also developed at the US DoD (TCP and UDP) are still used as the foundation of the Internet (and in fact all internets) today. HTTP (what they're calling WWW) is just one part of the Internet. The packet-switching and incredible resilience of IP was extremely foundational to how we use the internet, and things would be very different today if even small changes had been made to the concepts behind IP. The same cannot comfortably be said for HTTP.
As someone who used the internet before the world wibe web came around *), I humbly disagree. We used e-mail, ftp, usenet, irc and some other applications. *) (well, briefly - I was introduced to the internet in 1990, the www was launched in 1991 give or take)
@@xaverlustig3581 You didn't make any point. I made my first application using email in 1986(ish), and continued using WAN after that. The internet didn't much hit me until the late '80s, iirc...dial-up was a pita, and I never much cared for bbses. I loved usenet and loved watching the web grow when it started. The underlying protocol (TCP/IP) was pretty much irrelevant - it was just a matter of being the largest in use because it was in the USA.
@@davidmaxwaterman my point was that for me the Internet was significant before www. I had international contacts in the early 90s thanks to the non-www internet. I was using Unix workstations in my university, no modem or dialup. Maybe that helped 🙂
Nina Conti and her ventriloquist act wore thin about 10 seconds after I saw it for the first time. How she has made a career out of it is beyond understanding. Her face always has a weird smile like a bride who has just sh*t herself while having her wedding photo taken. Its as if she realised early that she is not funny and so she distances herself from her own 'material' by using a puppet as a proxy. The only thing that makes me smile about her act is the thought that she will probably be buried with that puppet by well meaning family.
It is astounding how many people are seemingly continuously surprised by the success of things they don't enjoy. It's like you've just noticed, for the first time, that other people do in fact exist, but you haven't quite cottoned on to the fact that they don't all just think like you but instead have minds all of their own. I mean, most people develop a theory of mind by age six, but I guess for some it takes a bit longer.
@@EdenLippmann Thanks for your reply but if I need a lecture from an unfunny dummy who spends most of their time with a fist up them, I will contact Nina Conti directly.
In typical QI fashion the real answer is tucked away at the end: Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. I propose H.G. Wells "invented" the Internet; read World Brain.
The internet and the World Wide Web are at different levels of abstraction (or, different levels of the OSI model). The internet is a physical network of networks and a set of protocols that allows intercommunication between them. The World Wide Web is a layer on top of that which provides hyperlinked documents and such.
@@richbryce5006 Jonny geelgood, Larry Oliver, Ralphie Richardson were brilliant. A missus and her puppet ??? Ah for crying out loud. C’est le même comme prendre le biscuit, as they say in France.
