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Aaron and Greg discuss what we've learned about quartering to shots with heavy setups!
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@tomdavis3334
@tomdavis3334 Год назад
I used to practice shooting through brush when I first started and never had a good experience on a deer. We tune our bows so the arrow goes straight in the animal and doesn't wobble on impact. That gives us optimum pennetration. Hitting any brush even if we hit our mark is similar to letting our vanes hit the cables. The arrow will wobble on impact and we will lose that follow through energy. Thanks for sharing your results so we can all learn from your experiences.
@SteeleaDevil
@SteeleaDevil 3 года назад
I appreciate the fact that you have the balls to say “I made a bad decision” or “I made a bad shot.” Reality. That’s why you guys will have a long, successful career in an industry that’s FULL of fake news.
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Adam 👍🇺🇸
@johnhayes2299
@johnhayes2299 3 года назад
I tried the switch last year. From 20 yards and in it was awesome. Out past 20 yards the arrow drops so much it basically took away my 30, 35 and 40 yard shot. From 20 to 27 the arrow was so slow the deer reacted dramatically before the arrow got there. I switched back to my light fast arrow set up after a doe ducked an arrow at 26 yards and spine shooting another doe at 25 yards. With my light set up (425 arrow and broadhead) I can shot one pin out to 30 yards and had all the confidence in the world at 35 and 40. If your disciplined to watch deer walk away at 23, 26, 32 yards.....could be the buck of a lifetime at 31 yards broadside the heavy set up for you.
@richardbritt3611
@richardbritt3611 3 года назад
THERE IT IS FOLKS!!!!!
@sauerkrautjr
@sauerkrautjr 2 года назад
Just passed up a shot on a nice buck a few days ago. Had some passing regret in the blind, but now I'm glad I skipped a bad shot. Maybe I'll meet that buck again.
@PoeOutdoors
@PoeOutdoors 3 года назад
Well done guys. Great work covering the possibilities and risks of quartering to shots backed by video evidence.
@samporter5258
@samporter5258 3 года назад
I had an invisible branch from an invisible tree deflect my arrow on a shot at an Impala at 18 yards and hit it high and back. Lesson..... beware of invisible trees! Lol! Luckily, we were able to recover the Impala but it was a bad shot..... Appreciate all you guys do. Love your videos. So full of information!
@kevinsharp5916
@kevinsharp5916 3 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to share. Extremely good info and material to take ro the woods moving forward. Keep up the good work fellas!!
@HuntsT
@HuntsT 2 года назад
On a frontal shot within 10 yards I recommend shooting mid neck dead center of the neck. I killed 150 inch whitetail on a hand held decoy setup. It cut his windpipe, both neck arteries, and paralyzed him. Again 10 yards and in, him not moving, looking at you. He collapsed and then expired in less than 5 seconds. I was able to see the outline of his wind pipe and aimed right on the crease. He was slightly angled two his right, my left, so I aimed at his left side of his oesophagus. Do what you feel comfortable with, good luck.
@unclemoe5733
@unclemoe5733 3 года назад
Clear and concise information. Thats why i watch this channell. Not to mention the spectacular footage. What, no wedding vedio?
@AttwoodsGarage
@AttwoodsGarage 3 года назад
I started last (my second at 54years old) season with 450ish arrow, 125 grain Magnus Black Hornet. I hit a buck in the scapula at about 15 yards (55lbs), buried the head about 4 inches, broke the head off the arrow and that's the last time I saw him. Followed the blood trail the following day, several globs of blood then nothing. I watched the RF vids and redid my setup to 605 grain arrow but I didn't have any chances the rest of the season. Looking forward to getting out again.
@402bonecollector
@402bonecollector 3 года назад
I made the change this year to a 300 spine 5mm FMJ at 27.5in with a 75 grain outsert and 125 grain crimsontalon g3 and I’m gonna try the iron will 125s with the bleeders! I’ve always shot mechanicals and I’ve had good success but last year I had a broadhead failure so I decided it was time! Love the channel guys! Bring on the fall 🤘🏹🦌
@jay-ce1rb
@jay-ce1rb 3 года назад
1. Know what your setup will do, at all yardages. It is not the same at 15 yrds and 45 yrds. 2. Know your capabilities. 4 yrs ago I passed a 12 yrd quartering to shot, not because it was quartering to, but because of my shooting position. 6 days later, I harvested the same buck at 45 yrds. As always, good video.
@lugia233
@lugia233 3 года назад
even with my 630-grain arrows, I can go through that near shoulder every day. but I'm not looking at a passthrough every time,my arrow stopped on the far scapula at a 65-yard uphill shot this year.
@tedf7843
@tedf7843 3 года назад
Tuning the arrow can be more important than arrow weight a point hitting perfectly straight without any side to side vibration has much more penetrating power from what I have seen in 40 years of archery hunting. 30 or 35 years ago when I was young, dumb and worked out I had a PSE Mach 4 with a 28 inch draw that I bottomed the axles out at 97#'s. Ralph Cianciarulo tried to do a chin up on it at Archers Choice in Berwyn, just happened to be my local pro shop. I tuned the bow with 28.5" 2419's and 2317's with a 160 Grain NAP Thunderhead and it killed the ground behind the deer on every shot regardless of angle. Shot it with a calfs hair finger tab before releases were real popular. Now I shoot a crossbow, que the comments but my shoulder and one of my fingers is messed up, but I use NAP Spitfires with Piledriver shafts and it has shot through every deer and I have never had a mechanical head failure on a pile (25-30) of kills. Butcher my own deer and it has penetrated ball joint at bottom of shoulder blade, one doe spun her head and caught it in jaw went through jaw bone with teeth in lower jaw cut carotid artery ended up where I was aiming buried into lungs lost 1/4 inch of one blade. Broadside always cuts couple ribs in couple or three ribs out. Can't say it would never fail but I believe a lot of failures are from user error on assembly and poor bow tuning. I take every shot I have confidence in and I can visualize the vitals from my butchering experience. Never saw a nock or fletching bouncing in a deer's side until I starting watching hunting videos with swizzle stick arrows. Speed doesn't kill penetration does, there is a reason they make range finders :-)
@danielsbackforty8094
@danielsbackforty8094 7 месяцев назад
ONCE AGAIN!!!! THANK YOU!! GREAT VIDEO°°😊
@jessethibodeau113
@jessethibodeau113 3 года назад
Great video! Summer trail cam set ups? Would like to put some out on a new public piece I found. Thanks again boys
@ajv88
@ajv88 3 года назад
Hang them 7-10' off the ground and angle them downwards, funnels and pinch points away from the parking lot. I left a cell cam in almost a year and went back in a month ago to retrieve it, lots of data to learn.
@zackyeager4016
@zackyeager4016 3 года назад
What are the heads you were using in several shots in the video? The cut on contact one
@MultiOhioman
@MultiOhioman 3 года назад
Thank you guys. Question. 15 yards and under, heavy arrow 55# recurve? Might be too slow? I’m glad I’m not the only one that gets upset when a bad shot occurs regardless of the reason. Thanks, I’ve met to many hunters that shrug off wounded deer/ animals.
@pattyd8340
@pattyd8340 3 года назад
Can you guys do an updated gear/ now set up for the 2021 season
@dozierlester3971
@dozierlester3971 3 года назад
Nice video. Good with the Bad! Life :-) Keep Rolling :-)
@davidhorne1069
@davidhorne1069 3 года назад
What broad heads are you running? I’ve recently went to a heavier arrow. 520 gr total. But still using mechanical. Thinking of going back to fixed.
@grammoore3348
@grammoore3348 3 года назад
A few of the guys shoot Magnus 4 blade
@michaelrosa5410
@michaelrosa5410 3 года назад
Seek the heart, pile up the game. It's not difficult with the right equipment.
@pestka7151
@pestka7151 3 года назад
I know you guys have used Magnus. I'm curious as I'm shooting high FOC with one bow or high GPI in general for the bow I shoot FMJs. Do you think Magnus black hornet ser razors with break bone? Or should I stick with muzzy mx3. I plan on meeting muzzy trocar hbs for early season but wanna have a solid fixed blade I can trust as a backup. Thoughts? Don't wanna break the bank. Thanks
@miket926
@miket926 3 года назад
You guys were on a rampage last season
@joehorton01
@joehorton01 3 года назад
Ive only killed 6 deer in my life. Ive never shot one i didnt recover. Im too picky i guess. Ive been deer hunting almost 30 years. Weird to think about.
@ryanmckinney4346
@ryanmckinney4346 3 года назад
Have you gave away the shotgun yet?
@workinmanoutdoors6258
@workinmanoutdoors6258 3 года назад
The frustration of not getting an opportunity at a clean shot doesn’t compare to how bad you feel after you take a bad shot. Immediate regret. As usual, great episode fellas.
@emhannah1557
@emhannah1557 3 года назад
thanks for the advise. relatively new to hunting and I’ve never had the opportunity to learn this. Thank you
@tylerolson6247
@tylerolson6247 3 года назад
I was told at a young age to never regret passing on a deer if you weren’t confident in the shot. It’s way easier said than done but after losing a couple I knew how true it was.
@kevinchapman530
@kevinchapman530 3 года назад
I'm ready for these.. I can't get into the turkey videos. I've watched a ton of Midwest whitetail videos watching y’all in the old days😂 good footage just don't ever do all the advertising that's crap and kills the videos
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Kevin me too I moved the ND and this state you have to put in for a turkey tag plus 90% of the state is private land so I’m over the turkey thing let’s get on with the deer tour can’t wait
@CATfishTONY
@CATfishTONY 3 года назад
I'm in my late 50 so I grew up with 2216 Eastman Heavy arrows. Back in the day we never did a weight check.our arrows Would pass through a full frontal shot and exit the rear ham
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Tony B So true man I never realized over the years how light my arrows were getting and I finally switched back to fixed heads with inserts back to pass throughs for me
@davidsnell7707
@davidsnell7707 3 года назад
I have been shooting 720 grains for years, has anyone noticed how much more quiet their bow is? Those heavy arrows take so much energy out of the bow, that it is a lot quieter.
@Smokevolt
@Smokevolt Месяц назад
Very much so. I have 3 builds. 1025, 880, and 778gr that all shoot very well from my bow. For the 2024 season i've built a lower 548gr setup. Upon the first few shots while bareshafting, the increase in sound of the bow was the first thing i noticed. so much so, that i shot a couple of my heavies just to compare. It's definately noticable.
@weekender38
@weekender38 3 года назад
As a bowhunter with 52 years experience, I really enjoyed this episode.
@TheK2008
@TheK2008 3 года назад
That's why you guys have the best hunting videos! You show the bad with the good. Good reminder for everyone to take better shots. Thanks Guys! Keep up the good work!
@ethanhartman1534
@ethanhartman1534 3 года назад
FINALLY a new video! I’ve been having to go on a THP withdrawal for the past week!😂
@brettlythjohan3608
@brettlythjohan3608 3 года назад
Already pumped for next deer season. Gonna have to start rewatching some hunting videos
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Brett Me too I need to put down the fishing pole and start shooting my bow this week
@TheEverLovingOutdoors
@TheEverLovingOutdoors 3 года назад
You said my comment before me lol
@kohdymartin7824
@kohdymartin7824 3 года назад
I just started watching this channel at the very tail end or after this past season. I was so sad about the season being over I binge watched every deer tour they have. Still go back and watch em when I get that itch.
@skymagruder5270
@skymagruder5270 2 года назад
So anyone had any luck yet this season? I’ve only had one week in October (way too hot) and now I’m gearing up for first weekend in November. I’m ready I’m ready I’m ready. So many buck dreams 😅
@Hatim.13
@Hatim.13 2 года назад
@@skymagruder5270 How did it go? Merry Christmas to everyone
@adamwiech4874
@adamwiech4874 3 года назад
If you wait for that 20 yd completely broadside leg forward ect ect .you'll miss alot of opportunities ,now that being said you have to be confident in your setup and your skill level if you don't have that then don't shoot ,.
@SellsZac
@SellsZac 3 года назад
Aaron's elk hunt on the Born & Raised channel may be my favorite filmed hunting content of all time. The brutal lows, followed by the final success. Thats what keeps us all driving 16 hours on no sleep to climb a mountain with a bow.
@Huntoutdoors1
@Huntoutdoors1 3 года назад
I will always Take the shot I can hit .There is a way into the vitals from every direction or angle . So if you can make the shot take it if not then simply don't . After 45 years of bowhunting there are as many wives tails about deer having to be broadside as the ones about heavy quartered shots .. All it boils down tp is some hunters in the moment do not shoot very well at animals standing at any angle .Lots of hunters do not estimate yardage very well either and do not have well tuned gear so they try to mitigate that with light shafts and fold out heads ..
@JakeSmith791
@JakeSmith791 3 года назад
I beefed up my arrows this past season because i saw the good y’all were having with them. I’ll never go back to light and fast. Not after the season i had with a 627 grain arrow with 22% FOC.
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Those frontal shots need to be practiced before attempting on a live animal I think 🤔 most people aren’t honest about their shooting me personally will stick with a broadsided shot always but knowing that with the right set up and practice you at least have more options in your arsenal now thanks for the THP honesty but I say again each bow hunter needs to know his or her abilities with their setup and always set your stand for a broadside shot if you can and don’t ever feel bad if you have to let one walk it’s the right thing to do we all have had bucks walk at some point in hunting for me it’s the chess match not the kill that excites me just to know I beat that deer 🦌 that day even if he doesn’t take a ride in my truck 🛻 I know I punched his number that day great 👍 video that’s why I support THP
@russclewley6945
@russclewley6945 3 года назад
DIY sportsman has an excellent video from this year on a frontal shot.
@robsocks9389
@robsocks9389 3 года назад
Anyone else binging THP’s deer tour videos before the season starts?
@tylersuchy672
@tylersuchy672 3 года назад
Even bullets deflect through brush, I only take shots on coyotes through brush with a gun, brush will deflect anything. Even buckshot. Im confident in my 650 set up but brush is bad
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
We want an update on the deer tour please mention if n when you guys will be in Nodak this year nothing like the THP getting it done ✅ in your own home state plus most of my favorite RU-vid hunters are there in camp each year remember we got velvet bucks 9/3/021 your only chance is that opening first few days by the end of the 1st week of September the bucks are shed out already Let’s go deer tour 2021 season
@TheWVgoodguy22
@TheWVgoodguy22 3 года назад
What a perfect first video to share after Turkey 🦃 Tour 21’ is over. Gets everyone fired up even more than they were about archery 🏹 deer 🦌 season and preparing for it. Possibly bumping up their current set up and using those Plan B “Adult Arrows” for the reasons that you illustrated in this video. Thanks for the transparency and speaking against people who might now think that if they have a 600 grain arrow that it’s a Brush Buster arrow like people call 30-30s and 45/70s in the rifle world. My current set up is an “old” PSE single cam bow from 2006, 60 lbs and 29 in draw. My arrows last year were about 510 grain (11.25 Gpi over 29 inches) including a 45 grain outsert and 100 grain broadheads (Magnus Stinger Buzzcut and G5 Montec CS) since I couldn’t find 125-150 grain broadheads anywhere after your Ranch Fairy videos lol Sadly I missed three does from the ground last fall and didn’t draw on a nice 8-10 point, because he never looked down or away. It might have been a quartering too shot also. I have been waiting to send a question about that encounter until the off-season to either the THP IG page or a couple of you guys’ personal IG page to see what your thoughts would be. Thanks again for sharing this informative and thought provoking video.
@willeypoboy5607
@willeypoboy5607 3 года назад
I'm a doe killa! I love the brusers you all take on public..I'm a ol lazy bow hunter... all public .Mostly Maryland, Virginia and Tennessee... if you want a surprize... Maryland's underrated for big deer!Big bodied bruisers....come see.for your self! Mabey take a Sika!. I've dumbed into enough bruiser's to fill my shop! Keep up the great videshow!
@karlwellendorf763
@karlwellendorf763 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your real life experiences and encouraging others to be as smart and ethical as possible. It's better to learn from another's experience than to suffer needlessly! Great content as always!
@magnumarrowarchery155
@magnumarrowarchery155 3 года назад
I'm shooting 730g total arrow weight. 265g tuffhead single bevels, 250 spine blackeagle carnivores. My bow is so quite with heavier arrows.
@codyutecht5138
@codyutecht5138 Год назад
With my setup I’m not scared to shoot an elk at 50 in the shoulder. Just over 600 grains cut on contact Annihilator broadhead and 76 lbs. now I just have to find an elk
@taylorjurek8725
@taylorjurek8725 3 года назад
It sad to see guys like Michael Waddell and whitetail institute bad talking the heavy arrow stuff and present zero science evidence beyond I shot these big deer with my sponsors arrows....let's improve bowhunting instead please!
@timbow50
@timbow50 2 года назад
A 600+ grain arrow is NOT A cure all folks. Not an excuse to take even slightly questionable shots
@dannyb6968
@dannyb6968 3 года назад
I am just wondering, Have y'all ever consider a Bear hunt? Pennsylvania has a nice public population. But I'm sure there are several other states as well..
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Maybe Jacob could link up with Dan in Wisconsin Infaut runs bear bait every year they got some huge ones up there great idea Danny B
@mcd5778
@mcd5778 3 года назад
Branches are like tipping a slapshot.... Doesn't take much to completely change the trajectory
@bradwilliquette1347
@bradwilliquette1347 Год назад
When you say cut on contact broadheads I assume you are talking about single bevel broadheads?
@whitetailstorm1967
@whitetailstorm1967 3 года назад
Ive been playing in the ranch fairy dust. Ive found it to work out well. Less afraid of the shoulder now. Still wont take stupid shots. Itll be ok guys. Just relax. Learn the physics and run with Dr. Ashby's fundmentals. Practice practice practice. And most of all, throw the mechanicals away. Youre going to be fine.
@ericwiitala5407
@ericwiitala5407 3 года назад
Thank you for this video. Incredibly informative and transparent. I made the switch like you guys this year and I looking forward to September chasing bugling bulls. I agree with you 100%, shot selection still matters. There's no excuse for selecting to take a poor quality shot. But it's nice to have an insurance policy in case something does happen like hit a stick, the animal moves a few inches. Or the human part comes in and the shot selection is good and the shot is just off a couple/few inches. It happens. Looking forward to this upcoming season.
@georgelusk939
@georgelusk939 3 года назад
Would you recommend a heavy arrow and broadhead setup only pulling around 60lbs of draw and around a 28.5 inch draw length?
@Sapper_Rage
@Sapper_Rage 3 года назад
There's people that can't pull that much but still use and benefit from heavy arrows. Think traditional bows where people hunt with 45-55 lbs
@scottbryant6349
@scottbryant6349 3 года назад
Even more so than one like mine at 31" and 72#. If you can get to 550+, it helps a lot with penetration especially when everything doesn't go according to plan
@mikeg.5854
@mikeg.5854 3 года назад
Why give up the speed and range to take a questionable shot? It’s a whitetail deer. After watching ranch fairy tear apart “light” arrows and “mechanicals” like somehow you’re an idiot if you shoot them. I understand if you’re shooting hogs etc. but a deer is not that dense and hard if you take an ethical shot. I honestly think y’all do a great job and have great content but you’re leading people down a path that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. I have enjoyed watching Aaron and Greg for almost nine years now. I really respect y’all. It doesn’t take a railroad tie with a snowplow on the front to kill a deer.
@mikewhitney8888
@mikewhitney8888 3 года назад
Nice job guys! I also have a long draw so my arrow weight has been higher than average and I have generally been confident in the quartering to shot for some time now but it is key (I think) to have a clear shot as you pointed out in this video.
@51cathedral51
@51cathedral51 3 года назад
I’ve been hunting heavy adult arrows for 27 of the last40 years. There is no better set up than 3/1 single bevel. You can “take and break , Warb! Troy is spot on! The quieting down of the bow is also understated! You can’t shoot through brush though...... it’s a bow and arrow....????you have to get it in the vitals.
@stark_outdoors
@stark_outdoors 3 года назад
Got a new divergent EKO last month, ordering ranch fairy’s arrow kit next. Can’t wait to get back in a tree
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Reading some of the comments we see how much THP practices shooting archery 🏹 but wish Aaron would have stressed more on the fans practicing good video regardless I’m starting this week so if anything need fixed on my bow now is the best time to hit the archery shop give them guys at scheels something to do in Fargo ND
@CrouseOutdoors
@CrouseOutdoors 3 года назад
Awesome discussion guys. Its been fun to go on this learning journey with you.
@MrDbro94
@MrDbro94 3 года назад
Took a 12 yard shot at one quartered to last season, my cam hit my tree stand and threw my shot off. Ended up going through chest and out the offside shoulder (I believe). Tracked blood for hours and eventually lost blood and never found it 😭
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Feel ya I lost one to last year but I knew better but this year I put up some blockading on the trail to direct the deer so I can get a broadside shot this time
@davidvankainen6711
@davidvankainen6711 3 года назад
gotsta know your limitations! competence, gun, crossbow, longbow, . . . thank you friends.
@Brnoutdoors
@Brnoutdoors 3 года назад
Now that’s an educational video. I love how you mix the knowledge and experience and are able to provide videos to go along with it. Thanks for that
@darickanderson4360
@darickanderson4360 3 года назад
Love this video, it’s definitely a big help!
@walston7970
@walston7970 3 года назад
Great video and needed as some might feel their arrow setup would justify some poor judgement on shot angles.
@ikeyeet8312
@ikeyeet8312 3 года назад
I run magnus black hornets, 450 grain arrows with 150 up front. Devastating. I don't ground hunt like you guys, but can confirm they go through shoulders with 27" draw 65lbs elite energy bow. I used to use rage, and they worked, till they didn't. I feel so much more confident shooting at the vital V now. Its amazing that the deer i shoot with magnus, while they leave a slightly less blood trail ( still amazing), go far less distance than a rage broadhead kill. They act like a wild horse when hit with a rage.
@racerdaveracerdave
@racerdaveracerdave 3 года назад
I've got a heavy setup. I don't see myself shooting a frontal. A clear quartering to? Yes. Really good breakdown.
@markfranco7301
@markfranco7301 3 года назад
The smallest twig, blade of grass will deflect a arrow. I don't care how heavy of a set up.
@Sapper_Rage
@Sapper_Rage 3 года назад
But how much will it be deflected? Which arrow does better?
@markfranco7301
@markfranco7301 3 года назад
@@Sapper_Rage Everyone has their own opinion on weight of arrow and broadhead, and as far as it being a fixed or mechanical.I would just wait for the animal to give me a clean shot or not shoot at all. Now back to your question, there is no telling how far it will deflect, (not sure if you are being sarcastic) it's just not worth it, just like Aron was saying he regrets the shot and it is a shitty feeling knowing that you took a questionable shot but most of us have done it at least once.
@alexstanley6167
@alexstanley6167 3 года назад
I loved this video as well as the break down. I have one question that I haven’t seen explained yet, what is the absolute best way to add weight to your arrows? Is there any way to do it other than buying a shaft with a very high GPI, and then packing all the extra weight up front in the form of insert and broadhead? Thanks a ton very helpful video
@adked1841
@adked1841 3 года назад
Due to my job last year, I wasnt able to go through the Ranch Fairy's complete Heavy Arrow setup...But due to what I learned from him I did swap back to fixed blade and touched up my 3 blade, 100 gr G3 broadheads...I was able to shoot a doe at 15 yards totally broadsided and I completely blew through both shoulders...She was down in less then 50 yards...Looking forward to this year...
@danschoemann2305
@danschoemann2305 3 года назад
Excellent, informative and honest video. If you hunt long enough, you will encounter all of the situations addressed here. It’s hard to pass on shots, but can be just as thrilling as making one. Wounding and losing deer has caused some to give up the sport.
@half-assedandnotfast3375
@half-assedandnotfast3375 3 года назад
I agree, the first deer I ever shot at was quartering too and it bounced off the shoulder. I was so livid about wounding the deer I wanted to sell my bow.
@karmas.busdriver
@karmas.busdriver Год назад
While I love watching THP, Ranch fairy, Ashby, For the simple ass in the grass Bow Hunter, Here's an arrow formula that is hard to go wrong with in the whitetail woods. A 200 shaft, 100 grain insert, and whatever 125--150 fixed blade or single bevel you like. On average you should get a 568-----595 complete, depending on shaft length & 125----150 head. Oh, and stop torturing your selves with mechanicals. Might as well call them disposables at 50 dollars a three pack, or pay 130 for 3 grizzly stick, Iron will, cut throats, & be filling your freezer with them for years!!
@JD-vw6vy
@JD-vw6vy 3 года назад
Greg needs more time behind the mike.
@henryjones8614
@henryjones8614 10 месяцев назад
I’m sure you made a slip when referring to “‘at ball and socket joint” of shoulder. Some viewers might have been misled. The video is much appreciated and helpful to me. I’m 81 years old, been hunting every year with bow since 1967, Still having a great time in woods. After watching video, shot my last buck a few days ago through scapula (unintentionally a bit high, but crowded the shoulder more than usual). Lived 12 seconds with thru shot. Keep the videos coming!
@onlyonebran
@onlyonebran Год назад
Super heavy is just as bad as super light. 400gn total with cut on contact fixed blade will go through scapula at 300fps. Its been done alot. My current setup is 318-320fps at 410-412gn arrow. I have had more non pass through shots with 500+ grain arrows than 400-450 grain arrows. In the end shoot what you have confidence in.
@xcmandan
@xcmandan 3 года назад
I'm so thrilled y'all made this video!!! It's really been on my mind about how this arrow set up would give people "Beer muscles" when hunting and a false sense of confidence. But you are so right. It is a killer set up and surely the way to go. Be smart and go through the check list before you let it fly. I wish y'all many kills. Thank you Ranch Fairy and THP!!!!!!!!
@blind-dateoutdoorssportsma547
@blind-dateoutdoorssportsma547 2 года назад
If you want to blow through an animal, do not use expandable broadheads or chisel tip broadheads or a combination of both. Cut on impact broadheads are idea, provided the broadhead is of quality steel. The G5 montec is the best I've found. The fix blade montec provides optimal performance. And this particular broadhead is all but indestructible even during direct contact with shoulders and backbone. I've actually used the same broadhead repeatedly. To resharpen, just use a file. I've never experienced a flight issue as well. Those who use mechanical or chisel tip broadheads should never complain about poor performance and a lack of pass throughs. >>>‐---------->
@leadslead521
@leadslead521 Год назад
Great video! But the higher the number goes on a arrow acually means its lighter and more flexible. I shoot a 300 spine arrow with fixed broad heads I have a 31 1/12" draw length. And a 80lbs bow. Good luck this season I really enjoy your videos they keep me motivated when I go out and come back empty handed lol.
@johnciliberto3383
@johnciliberto3383 3 года назад
I cannot wait for Pennsylvania's archery season to open up that is my favorite thing in life
@Tom-uy3lt
@Tom-uy3lt 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I enjoy your honesty and analytics on what is a good or bad shot. Some areas have been gray areas for me and you've clarified a lot. Thanks again.
@timl8302
@timl8302 Год назад
The frustration & regret at a bad shot is what you should feel. It means you care........i was looking at the Tenn. doe shot with the red dot. I would of aimed 1/2 way between the red dot & the center (brisket) line. = Double lungs & heart, nothing but ribs in the way. I've made it at least once with XX78s. But, the same shot straight on is a one lung shot. The center punch shots are new to me. But, I can see the heart, veins & arteries being cut too. Except for that shot, aim for the exit. Feathers can help deflection, a little in the back. But, not in the front. Although, I'd still keep those quartering to shots below 30 yards & in the clear. Great video guys!
@jayonez137
@jayonez137 2 года назад
My X Impact hunting arrows finish out at 421 grains with a 80 grain outsert and 100 Grain fixed 3 blade Exodus broadhead. Been using this set up for a few years. I have zero penetration issues. I will never use a expandable Broad head! Those are designed for bows that are not tuned 100% correctly. I’ve seen way too many things go wrong with expandable BH. I am playing around with the Iron Will broadheads at the moment. I may be switching to them for next season
@WeisenBucks
@WeisenBucks 3 года назад
Soild video boys, never disappoint. Always educational as hell! Appreciate the bow hunting knowledge.
@tannersizemore4255
@tannersizemore4255 3 года назад
What do you guys think of stadiometric ranging like the EZ-V bow sights, I have been followed RANCH FAIRY, and got my 600+ grain arrow setup dialed in but I ordered an EZ-V site after seeing it on troys page and wondered if any of you guys have tried them out and if so what you thought
@richienell
@richienell 3 года назад
Nice to see more compound shooters using heavier more lethal arrows. Recoverying animals is the game that matters and increasing your chances in doing that is all we can do. Heavier and boneproof arrow is a must. My current setup is 910 grains, 34.2% FOC, long external footing, Tuffhead 300 with a 70# Black Widow recurve. I have been using this basic setup for about 11 years now. It blows up everything it hits, any bone from stem to stern. I like to stay tight to the shoulder area, whether an angled to shot or broadside shot. That decreases the gut shot as much as possible while blowing thru any bone getting to the plumbing in front of heart. If you build your arrow properly and boneproof, you do not need to shy from the best kill shots in front of the animal where the arteries are big.
@AUTOMANJOE
@AUTOMANJOE 3 года назад
Yeah I did a quarter away shot and hit to far back blasted through guts lungs and blasted the heart. The buck dropped 5 yards away from where I shot. Felt terrible lost meat never taking that shot again.
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Let’s go deer tour 2021
@Eightball2516
@Eightball2516 3 года назад
How do you guys practice with the heavy arrows
@davidtisch5237
@davidtisch5237 3 года назад
Ranch fairie has a field tip package and so do other online bow shops you can order heavy field points
@mmatthewias280
@mmatthewias280 3 года назад
I agree with everything said about heavy all the way and heavier up front now. Wished I did the last 10 years because I’ve lost some very good Midwest bucks because I hit shoulder with a light arrow and Rage broadheads. I harvested some good ones too but the biggest I’ve ever seen while hunting got away because I made a shoulder shot with a light arrow and expandable head. I blame modem day bow marketing (and myself for not making perfect shots of course) of speed and light/100g expandable broadheads.
@cray-z7404
@cray-z7404 Год назад
Every deer I’ve ever shot in neck/ throat with bow or gun have dropped in their tracks literally and I feel like neck / throat shots are devastating and deadly to say the least … once any broadhead enters the neck there’s devastation to wind pipe, esophagus a million main arteries spine etc. and no animal can survive a hole 🕳️ threw their neck / throat section ! No need to shoot through bones 🦴 when deer is facing u or broadside I’ve shot deer through the neck ! The biggest poacher on RU-vid will tell u a 22 rifle shot threw the throat/white patch on throats/ neck kills deer instantly and no tracking ! Even if your mechanical broadhead doesn’t open you still killing the deer you can shoot a deer in throat with field point and drop it ! From my experiences I prefer neck / throat shots …
@sonsofliberty3081
@sonsofliberty3081 3 года назад
I hunt with my dad's old bow, probably 10yrs or so anyway. He got it new back in 92ish. The shop set him up with state of the art Easton arrows in 1992, haha, with 140gr 3 side heads and like you said loaded heavier at the tip. I took it an Amish guy who has a bow shop, that's his business, and ask if he'd just go over it and new sights and tune. It hadn't been in years. I went back to get it and he said he hadn't seen that heavy of a head in years. He asked if I hunt bear with it. I said no, but I really didn't realize the heads were that heavy. I still don't know how many gr the entire set up is, I'd imagine with those old arrows it's probably between 550 and 625. Needed new fetching as well. My dad and I both are big frame guys and he said the pull was at 85lbs. I really never new any different till lately, I knew the trend was to go to light and fast, always interested in that but never seen a reason to spend the money and make the switch. I, like everyone else, never purposely took a shot knowing I was going to hit bone because I didn't want to take a chance. I know it has broken them and continued on through. Oh, and I don't take shots really much over 35yds maybe 40. Not that I can't, but I just had fear that the deer would hear it and have too much time to react and I wound him.
@dougcounts3383
@dougcounts3383 3 года назад
Two years ago I lost a fine Missouri buck on a quartering to 20 yard shot. From a treestand. I was shooting too light of a set up. Very good advice. Thanks for the video
@ZachWanta
@ZachWanta Год назад
Drew back on a beautiful 8 point last night 15 yards quartering to me at the bait pile. I waited 10 minutes to get a better shot placement, fingers cold and arms fatigued I let off and the lower cam made a slight noise on the climber. Buck took off. Glad I didn't make a poor shot, but it was a difficult walk back to the cabin.
@raybship1
@raybship1 3 года назад
Very classy cover of the various shots! Honest not judgmental just information being passed on. Very well done. Thanks for that kind of unbiased information!
@shanedavis6306
@shanedavis6306 3 года назад
Just when I start to get the itch, y’all post a deer video! C’mon September
@fa-kingfreeman6173
@fa-kingfreeman6173 3 года назад
Ask any old guy I been at it for 40 yrs worst thing ever in bow hunting when the industry joined archery and started being speed junkies … back in the day we used aluminum shafts wit like 160 gr. Broadheads some of my deer fell right over … another thing no one thinks about how much quieter your bow is with heavier arrow broadhead combos silent is deadly but u can’t tell younger peep anything they know it all like peep who drive a one ton pick up to drop the kids at school same guys that got their bow jacked up to 70 lbs to kill a whitetail over kill
@SuperCharcoalangel
@SuperCharcoalangel 3 года назад
I took a risky shot last fall. Mind you, I hunt with a rifle not bow, but I am really not confident outside my 100 yard sighted range. I have also only been hunting for two years at that point. I finally snuck up on a whitetail after a spot and stalk for about a km and found him in a small bush at the bottom of a draw at about 30 yards. Unfortunately, he saw me as well. He was standing broadside but had thick brush/trees covering everything except his shoulder to head. I knew if he was going to move from that spot it wasn't going to be slow. I haven't ever made the decision to go for anything other than heart and lung before but while I was looking at him I remembered a video I watched on high shoulder shots. I was super nervous but was confident with the range. My first ever deer to drop on the spot (not that my other two ran far either). Not sure I would take that shot again unless I had no other choice or a couple more years of experience under my belt.
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