I like how it's the 80s and so Steve probably didn't know any gay people and probably only heard bad things said about gay people. But when Robin came out to him, he never wavered on how much he trusts and respects her. He knows who she is and didn't question that at all.
I lost my brother to a hate crime… I will forever support the rights and lives of the LGBTQ+. Prayers of protection for everyone so that no family has to continue to feel the pain I do by losing a valuable life. We celebrate you all HAPPY PRIDE MONTH 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
As a parent I will never understand how some parents disown their child because they come out as whatever they maybe. I will always love my children no matter what!!!!!!
It’s great to see this many parents here and pride events that are not bigots, but unfortunately not every parents are supportive……..😔 they claim they “understand” homosexuality but it’s really frustrating many other non-supporting parents ‘’protect” their grand children from homosexuality at a young age. 😒
I'm horrified of coming out to my parents. I mentioned the word Bi to my friends, and my Mom came in my room, saying shit like 'are you one of them? You better not be' or something along those lines. I had to say that I was just joking and she just laughed and walked out. From that day, I only told my friends, and at least they don't really care, and they support me. One day I will come out to my parents, but it defo won't to well.
My coming out as bi to my family was more "No you're not." and "We're not talking about it." Not heartbreaking, but far from accepting or positive. Like, I wasn't abandoned or disowned, but I was just..ignored. I was treated like I was lying.
4:40, for a teenage boy... IN THE 80's. He reacted like a hero. People seems to forget the time the show is set in and how LGBTQA+ was percived back then.
i love the stranger things scene because not only is steve a teenager he is a teenager in the 80's, and he had a crush on robin when she told him but instead of getting mad and saying that "he could change that" he accepted her and made a joke. I love their friendship so much
i love how nick’s bisexuality is a massive part of the show and is even stated in the video but he and charlie are still being called “two gay guys”. lmao great recognition there yall
I know. He annoyed me though. Nick just came out as bi and he's invalidating that. Bi erasure is literally so real and Nick was such good rep and it annoyed me so much wtffff
When my son came out as bisexual to me, it saddened me that he was scared to tell me, because the moment he told me, I gave him all my love and said, “I’m your mom, sweetheart. I already knew. I was just waiting for you to tell me.” I love that wonderful young man SO MUCH!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
4:36 the “holy shit” reaction from Steve was because it was seen as a bigger deal in the 80s (when the show is set) for anyone wondering. But it’s really good because Steve just takes it in, then instead of asking questions that he no doubt has or making it about him or whatever, he makes a joke because he knows that making Robin feel comfortable and accepted is more important right now.
I LOVE how Steve reacted to Robin coming out. No drama, no questions, just making fun of her lack of taste. Also loved how he supported her through the next season with her new crush
I feel like people sometimes forget that ST takes place in the 80s so while Steve took a while to process it his positive reaction is wonderful for that time period.
The thing I think people forget about Robin's coming out is that it was the '80s. It was a much less accepting time and the middle of the AIDS crisis. Coming out was actually dangerous. There's a reason Robin says beforehand that if Steve really knew her he wouldn't like her at all. It makes Steve's acceptance all the more powerful.
So true !, even in the ST fandom people seems to forget that the show is set in the 80's !!!, so for a teenage boy to be so accepting it's sooo amazing !!.
@@giuliapicchiotti For real! I saw a tiktok about Steve not outing Robin to Dustin because it's not his place even though 'he knows Dustin would be accepting'. Does he?! Because in the '80s that was definitely not a given (I mean it's not a given now even but it was even less likely to be then).
I know my opinion may be biased but one of my favorite coming out scenes of all time was in Stranger Things. Steve didn't judge Robin because she liked girls, he judged her for her type (without belittling her. They made it a joke and it was really sweet). That's what a true friendship looks like. I'm really glad that the content being produced nowadays is like this. People need to be able to see someone on TV like them. Whether it be their race, their sexuality, their looks, etc. people should be able to relate to characters on TV and that's exactly what this is.
@@wadewilson8011 they probably meant they're biased because they're a stranger things fan. as opposed to any random person who watches the show but isn't necessarily a huge fan of it or the characters
I'm glad to see younger generations are so much more accepting. When I was a teen in the 90s it was way different. My closest friend then was bi but he never came out and I never told anyone because most people were real assholes about homosexuality then. I can't imagine how hard it would be to not be able to be yourself publicly about such an important part of your identity.
Yeah, I remember pricks in my HS joking about Matthew Shepard's torture and death. That was like in '98. Was a typical suburban school in KC area, not some deep red country town.
This video is an example of why people should reserve judgment before calling out a lack of representation. Dude saw one scene from Heartstopper and implied it lacked representation…which couldn’t be further from the truth. If you’re gonna judge, at least be semi-informed.
Seriously. Omg the leads are 2 white boys. No representation! Right that's ignore the: Interracial lesbian couple where the black girl is seen as the ideal girl that boys want to get with (all the rugby lads call her fit and hot and shit) The eventual Interracial straight couple where one is a Trans gender black girl, the other is a Chinese boy Aro/Ace character Bisexuality character... This is not even included the additional stuff that's still to come... like males dealing with EDs Plus size middle eastern girl Gender fluid character (may bot happen since Aled is not in the show)... No representation at all
at the stranger things scene what people dont reealize is that that was back in the 80s people didnt assume that they are anything other than straight so steves reaction actually is good cause back then it was way different
Homeboy at 1:45 ...this is literally a graphic novel. I prefer when shows or movies get as close to the story as they can. You literally have one of the best representations of a black trans individual in the show. Her career has skyrocketed because of Heartstopper. Can't our community have anything nice for a change without others in our community bitching about it???
you can’t believe serious😭 yes elle is great rep and all but the show still doesn’t center around her so he’s right the show is about two white cis guys shows trying and books trying to be progressive with a very diverse cast are kinda meh when the main characters are still white
@@maria-ie6zd I mean I see where you’re coming from and I agree. But I mean there’s gonna be shows with two white leads and people really just need to realize that, if they don’t like that there are plenty of other shows out there
@@maria-ie6zd okay? But not all media has to be diverse in the same way or it’s not authentically diverse. We need representation of all different types of queer relationships
Knowing how terrifying it had to have been to do that in the 80s, and Steve's response shows such growth from the way he was in season 1. I just can't help but cry every time.
Yea that kind of annoyed me. But in fairness, it sounds like they probably haven't watched the show so they wouldn't know how diverse it actually is. I've noticed this problem with Gen Z though... they are quick to react and have an opinion, without actually doing any research first.
@@TheTsuha its not just this one person.... its them and many others of that generation. Maybe not every single one, but enough to correlate it as a common trait among Gen Z
Representation is so important. I didn’t have bi-characters growing up and I thought you only could love one gender. Seeing it in media is important cuz I know young kiddos will watch the shows/films and realize their sexuality/gender and it makes me cry
Honestly, when I was first watching it and Robin came out, I physically gasped. Didn’t expect there to be a queer character because of the setting. Love that they had the representation though!
@@julia_biss yep it is, it's also the opinion of many, which is why shows like Stranger Things are tanking... Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but this push for "inclusivity" in everything is ruining creativity
Daniel clearly hasn’t watched Heartstopper. We do get some representation in that show because the main characters bestie is a trans POC and her friend is a black lesbian.
Also in the books and possibly on the show Charlie is white and Latino. His father Julio is from Spain. On the show they have only shown his dad briefly but I think he was Latino. Hopefully in season two we will see more of this.
Literally. And also, this is a show about lgbt, so the race was literally irrelevant, as long as the story was depicted well. Not to mention it covers a lot of different identities throughout the show and the books
People who aren't queer sometimes under estimate how hard it is to come out to somebody, especially if you think they may not accept you. love these videos!
i absolutely sobbed during sharon talking about how it has changed for the better, i am 21 and even when i came out 10 years ago it was still so taboo and not acceptable. it’s so nice and heartwarming to see people able to come out and be accepted
I think heartstopper does a phenomenal job at representing different sexualities and PoC. And Charlie's like half hispanic or something so it's okay for me, As someone in the closet, I could relate to that show so much and cried multiple times watching it.
For time 1:44 for heartstopper- it’s a webtoon- so it was up to the artist who they wanted to make for their story and they did amazing. Plus they have a black trans women which isn’t very seen in other webtoons/books a lot- they also have an asian ally and two lesbians which one is white and another is African American girls. This webtoon to me- is a very wide variety of characters/people that we don’t normally get to see- and I’m si happy they were able to make it into a live version🙌🏻
i cried so much jesus. altough im not lgbtqia+, i know my parents would be supportive as hell, but what really made me tear up is because my best friend is a lesbian, and her mom doesnt accept her, so sometimes i just go to her house to hug her and cry with her
As a parent of a hetero child, a pan child, and a trans child, I am grateful for all of the representation found in media, now. I have seen, and enjoyed, most of the programs referenced in this episode, and really appreciate the way each story is told. Bravo, for having this REACTS episode.
1:44 I mean, yeah but..we have Tara and Darcy one of which is a poc, we have Elle, we have Tao, I mean..there's much representation if you ask me, and..why does the color of their skin matter that much?
"Two white gay guys" Was he not listen to the clip he was literally just shown? Nick is bi and slowly becomes proud of it. Bisexuality is its own identity and should be respected as such.
one day at a time is prob my favourite when it comes to coming out. Elena's worries with her abuela and her dad. Her mum being supportive but later on it shows that she actually struggled but she still wants to be there for her. The way the show handled elena's sexuality resonate with me so much, I cried so hard when the storyline came up
Daniel seems really sweet, but I think they(he? However they identify) need to calm down on calling everybody out for under-representing or underappreciating racial minorities. Or at least Heartstopper--yes, the two leads were white boys, but the cast overall is actually fairly diverse.
yes, when they said that I was like what? You haven't seen heartstopper, have you? yes there needs to be representation, but heartstopper literally has that...
I'm 59 and totally understand how Sharon feels that things were so different in our generation.... So glad it's a little better now and that there is so much more representation in the media. The govt is still trying to hold us back, so we have a long way to go still...
um the guy said there needs to be more representation talking about the fact that they're 2 white men. tara is black, sahar is latino i believe, still not white though, elle is black as well and finally tao is asian.
Yh also I swear Charlie is half Spanish half white? So I really don't understand what that guy was trying to say - there is just so much different representation in Heartstopper.
@@blueleung1999 he's spanish but I think he's spanish like european, like spain. at least in the series he's not like from mexico for example. but yeah there's so much representation
He's one of those extremists that want to cancel anything that doesn't fit in his narrow worldview just like the ultra conservatives do. There are scary people on the progressive as well as the conservative side.
heartstopper has been my entire personality for the past week so the second i saw heartstopper i immediately clicked. you should do a full heartstopper episode tbh. would probably do well. also, i love izzy so much.
I didn't get the choice to come out to my parents. I told my younger brother because I felt like I trusted him. Told everyone in my family... I've never trusted him ever again. I felt so hurt, I told him not to tell anyone because I wasn't ready and he just ignores it. And that is why I have trust issues.
That comment about the two main characters being white was ridiculous. There is a black trans mtf character who has a crush on a Chinese guy, and a mixed race lesbian couple.
I went to my mum last summer freaking out thinking I was broken because while I was emotionally attracted to guys I wasn't sexually attracted to them and she was like "you know what you need to say! Just say it!" and I think I went through every variation of "I'm a lesbian" without actually saying the words before finally speaking my truth. Like internalized homophobia is no joke y'all! Her and my dad were like "we've known since you were 10..." They were just waiting for me to realise it xxx
Izzy’s thirst for Bridgette Lundy Paine is a whole mood!! 😂 Also I was pleasantly surprised to see Ben’s coming out scene in good girls. I just wish the show would’ve done more with the character
Ok the person who said that they are disappointed that the two main leads are white 1st off there is so much representation in that show and they don’t know what they are talking about 2nd IN THE COMICS CHARLIE IS LITERALLY TAN- OR LIKE A BROWNISH COLOR HE IS NOT WHITE- i hate how people just say things without knowing the full story.
@@ww7271 Well there are two different types of tan 1.the tan you get from the sun or a tanning salon or a spray 2. Naturally tan so technically he is not white
@@spider-child875 that's not how skin colour works I.e Italians can be very tan however their race is still White.......it was still two white leads. But I thought the representation was good
As a straight man I can’t believe at 2022 ppl are still so unaccepting of the LGBTQ I have so many important ppl in my life both friends and family who stretch across all parts of the rainbow and I’ve never had nothing but love for them. I don’t see why anyone is less deserving of love no matter who the love like let ppl do wat makes them happy
The first person I came out to as bi was my father. I actually loved his reaction. He was a hippy, but still sort of old school. He had no clue, for starters. The first words out of his mouth was to not to bring any guys home for at least a week so he could process the idea. I gave him two. I brought Trever home, and we all drank, ate pizza, listened to music, and proved our ineptitude at Nintendo for a few hours. No cringe, whatsoever... apart from the Nintendo... My mother... was silent. She gave a 'yeah, I get it' sort of reaction, and suggested I go to church with her... Now, it's sort of an understood fact, that never gets brought up... ever. My siblings, and my grandmother just knew all along... no surprise there... and my aunt was fine with anything she could use as a punchline... also no surprise there.
Love seeing Our Flag Means Death here. It's a terrific show. So excited about the season 2 announcement. Taika Watiti has revived my faith in humanity.
Sierra getting emotional thinking Sharon was about to tell a heartwarming story about her friend, cut to Sharon, "I always referred to him as a**hole!" 😆
Everytime I see Nick's coming out scene I remember how Kit Connor was "forced" to be out by heartstopper famdom. People tottally missed the point of the show.
i feel danny bc like it's hard being a lesbian and like coming out to my mom i expected her to accept me. boy was i so wrong she said the worst thing any queer person would want to hear she said "it's just a phase" and that stuff crushes you that basically told me that i was not accepted by her so now i live my life closeted and have to pretend to be straight and avoid questions abt who i like and stuff like that it's just so hard when ur family doesn't accept who u r. it's just sad and it just sometimes makes me just want to cry because that's not how a 13 year old should feel, like they r not accepted for who they truly are.
Story time: I worked in a barbershop and I had a client who’s daughter was transitioning into a boy. The parents were awesome about it. They went to the school and talked to them because they didn’t want their son to be bullied. His first haircut he came into our shop before his sons appointment and explained what was happening and please don’t make him feel uncomfortable and told us his name. We wrote it down and when he came in it was business as usual. Awesome parents, goals.
1:45 | I'm sorry, but isn't he white? There were many forms of representation in that show. Two, for example, a BLACK trans female and a BLACK lesbian female.
@@bryanwilson4961 i feel like it was just a general statement tbh. there is definitely some poc rep in this show but the fact that the main two characters are white cis males probably had something to do with that.
1:46 DUDE DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE FREKIN SHOW ??? They have shit ton of representation also charlie (ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACHTERS) is latino ...... sry for being mad but I get angry at people who talk without knowing shit xx
Is Joe Latino in real life? I also think they mean the leads are two white males but the show does have a more diverse cast that a lot of shows these days don’t have
“We have to fight so hard just to be seen as equal people”. -Danny Aww, I miss being so young and full of fire and will to fight. Now I’m 34 and I don’t fight for sh*t anymore. People can see me the way they want, I couldn’t care less. My ass is just getting old I guess
2:18 My Mom was the last to know, because I lived with her, and I thought if I told her she would disown me, because her culture is very strict with stuff like that, but when I told her while I was balling my eyes she said, "Stop crying like a baby, I love you no matter what, and I don't care", I started laughing, but also crying more 😂😂
“It just makes cry, cause it was never that easy” exactly, that’s how I feel rn, cause even though we are now in new times and my mom accepts me as bisexual, idk how my dad will react, idk how they will react to me being trans, I feel so… alone.
I am a mother of 5. The ages run from 16 almost 17 to 5 being the youngest. I tell them all the time. No matter who the love I don't care as long as they love them and respect them. It shouldn't matter. A relationship is a give and take thing. I also tell them that if they want to go from a boy to a girl, or girl to a boy or whatever is between that's fine too. I'll love them.
actually the nanny was one of the few shows that accepted lgbtq people, fran dresser always made sure it was done right where it was accepted unlike other shows during that time where it made it seem like it was wrong
I told my mom while just slipping it into conversation that I'm pansexual and her response was 'what's that' lol. After explaining what it was she gave me a hug and told me she loved me no matter what.
When I came out to my best friend of like 10 years, the one I was most nervous to come out to as trans, the first thing he said to me was "what's your name?" Still makes me cry to this day it was the best thing I'd ever heard
