Quitting 3 Year Kratom Addiction 

Euphoria! That's exactly what I experienced for the first maybe 4 months or so! I would love to watch music videos! Just obsessed with Ariana grande. Now after 3 years I don't even hardly like music it turned on me so much.

It won't kill you and it's not nonaddicting but it's relatively harmless far as this stuff goes. That said. This is, 1:26 says it best this is the problem with real opioids too, even coffee for me. It just sneaks up on you. The problem is you don't even know it. For me the biggest problem was I was just outright abusing it, not even using I mean I's straight out abusing the hell out of it every single day for a few months and so it made me really arrogant and cocky when I walked away like it was nothing, some restless legs that's it. But it SUCKED when you are years into it. I would say this, you should probably just taper down directly. IF you are not an alcoholic or benzo addict, you can use therapeutic doses to help the WDs and restless legs, but I'd strongly discourage using harder addictive drugs like alcohol and benzos to ease something more benign as kratom and also it's crazy to use Suboxone. I mean. It's quitting caffeine with Dexedrine basically. But, you can use like one 8mg tab cut into 1mg pieces to help ease, there are numerous reasons not to do this including binding affinities, half life, precipitated withdrawals etc. I found out the hard way, that a couple months I can get away with it. A couple years not so much. You'll be a year deep before you realize you're withdrawing at work.

Dude I appreciate that thank you

Man you can do this! I was around 30-40 gpd and possibly more because I stopped weighing it! I was running through a kilo of kratom a month!!! The side effects was horrible on that amount! I still use kratom but only 1-3 times a week and around 1-5 gpd! Careful this stuff gets out of hand quickly

Had both arms and legs broken 16 years ago. There is nothing that touches my pain other than Kratom. Like within twenty mins of taking, I can breathe a sigh of relief. I hope no one ever takes away my ability to live a normal life.

I agree. I used to pop hydrocodone every day for 10 years, like 5-6 a day. And the only thing that helped me was Kratom. But it doesn't kill the pain it just kinda takes away the body aches enough for me to not desire to take pharmakia. I take a tablespoon in hot water as needed. It never was addictive because it makes you feel worse if you take too much. It is a plant. God gave us this plant for this reason. It binds some of the same receptors in your brain as pain meds. I take Green Maeng Da. It's helped save me from pain pills, but only when I came to the Lord was I able to not need anything. I still take it randomly when my body aches get too much. I have restless leg syndrome, RLS is characterized by an irresistible urge to move the legs, arms, or, less commonly, other body parts, usually accompanied by paresthesias, often causing difficulty falling asleep and/or repeated nocturnal awakenings.

So true. Thanks for watching man

@@kellen_hendrix of course! Don’t listen to the little weasels that try to bring you down. Videos like this actually help people. The people that encourage bad habits in the comment section won’t ever know what it feels like to reach their full potential. It’s just sad

Dude thank you

Saw that video too, works for me as well, I take 2,000mg niacin a day.

@@stephenisaacs4651 Thank you, I am glad to see you put this up here, I can't find these old videos anymore. I have them in my head. I started buying books with information in them. We are so censored now on the internet.

I stopped taking it everyday about a year ago and I can honestly say 0.5-2.0 gpd I feel more than when I was washing down 10 grams of green sludge

It definitely sneaks up on you. Recreational until you find yourself buying it almost automatically, daily (multiple times) without thinking about the health implications or relationship consequences. It’s a mf’er to quit, but you can do it. Best of luck brother.

@@umat6991 thank you. For your comment. Every single night I tell myself.... "That's it I am going to quit tomorrow". In the same thing happens in the morning. I start up. First I make sure I go to the bathroom a couple times shave have coffee so maybe an hour and a half later before I head out to play tennis...... I dose.

@@ricknowak4582 Omg. It's good to feel less alone. This is a clear aspect of kratom that many seem to have. The "quitting tomorrow" perpetually and in the morning you auto-pilot go buy a bag or dose. It's literally hell, you're in some kind of mental prison with it.

I've been there and got past it on a slow tapper! I was at 30-40+ gpd and now I take it 1-3 days a week at 1-5 grams depending on how I feel but no more than three times a week

Congrats my friend! I'm on methadone and want to formulate a 2-4 year plan to titrate off

I know Kratom and opioids affect the same receptors but I’m not entirely sure if one is worse or not. & Congrats, that’s a huge milestone

Kratom is a partial mu agonist and partial antagonist that blocks other opioids similar to what suboxone does. I’ve been taking kratom since 2016 everyday once or twice a day. I think the key is reliable vendors, labs, and don’t take more than 10 grams a day you can split 3.3 g 3 X or 4-5 grams 2 times a day at one time I was taking 15 g a day and I feel waaay better on 10 or 5g a day and I’m autistic about weighing every single dose. I take it for ptsd. I’ve done ketamine treatments, emdr, years of therapy and I only get relief 12 hours a day relief from the two kratom doses. I’ve literally had and done everything to rid ptsd from this body and only kratom has helped. I completely quit drinking alcohol by using kratom. I’ve not had a single thought of hurting myself or the severe symptoms since 2016. Congrats for having a strong mind man. Glad you’re able to use good cessation.

​@@prestonpowers73762 to 4 YEARS?? Dude stop being weak. Just swap it for Kratom and then take a little less kratom every day for 2 weeks. You could be stone cold sober by April if you actually wanted it but you won't because you're a coward. Prove me wrong.

​@@kellen_hendrixlmfao did you really just say you don't know whether one is worse than the other 🤣🤣 bro kratom is nothing

It’ll be so worth it though I promise you. Check out r/quittingkratom on Reddit there’s a lot of motivation there

@@kellen_hendrix oh brooooo I been a member for many years now! Love that place. They always come through. What’s your status now? You still feeling decent? My real struggle is quitting that lunch break dose, fuuuugggg that’s a rough one

Yeah I feel amazing now man. It’s funny, sometimes I catch myself just thinking “man, I used to think this sober feeling was me getting high” 😂 I truthfully just feel happier. It’s not a fabricated, short lived, dose-dependent happy either. It’s a REAL and natural happiness, and really, it’s joy. The emotions feel so much more real. And because my feelings aren’t dependent upon a drug it just makes me feel even happier and cleaner too. Just because it helped me, I’d suggest using some caffeine if you don’t already to help blunt the withdrawals a bit. Definitely keep me updated here on how it goes. plus others that watch this might be able to take something from your experience as well. God bless you man I wish you the best!

@@kellen_hendrix man I remember that feeling so well…I quit successfully in 2019, and was about 6, 6.5 months free when covid hit and sparked a relapse in me. I just said fuck it if my loved ones are gonna die by some stupid bioweapon, I want to numb myself out as much as possible. But man at 6 months, I felt happier than I did even before Kratom. Genuine happiness, not an up and down rollercoaster constructed by pharmacological methods. Unfortunately, multiple failed quits and the severe pain that came with each has really made quitting difficult. I used to be excited in a weird way to embrace the pain, see it as progress, and while I know that is still true, it’s much more difficult to feel anything positive at all. I’m hangin in tho. Thanks for the insights dude!

A poetic conclusion

How long did the lingering withdrawal symptoms last like restless legs?

​@Tyler-vw9bh A solid week of consistant withdrawal symptoms. Then the 2nd week I was mainly battling insomnia however feeling comfortable in my own skin again.

Can you please explain your withdrawals bro? I am doing 35 or 40 GPDs. I've only experienced withdrawals a couple times cuz I always dose before they start up! But what I experience was terrifying! Simply terrifying! I was trembling shaking and like a psychotic hallucinating.

Not if you're an alcoholic lol For me it's more like being a meth head, one beer, two beer, suddenly wake up a week later naked in jail or detox.

Thank you! It’s been almost a week since the last update at the end of the video and I actually feel very good. I was very surprised how easily I was able to get over the withdrawals. Incredibly grateful

Yeah lol some of these people are at like 5g a day and think they're on something or have never even done it consistently. And they think it's just an innocent plant. Opium is also a plant and it destroyed a whole nation. Kratom is incredibly strong and everyone who's above 25gpd+ knows that. Not only that but kratom has so many different alkaloids and mechanism of action that it really feels like half a psychiatric medicine and a moderate addictive opioid. If you are self-treating problems with it it's even harder to quit as there is little consequences that are glaringly obvious, it requires some serious willpower.

Thank you for commenting this, I have a friend who was an alcoholic and has been to rehab 3 times. He started taking those k shots his coworker told me and they’ve made him super aggressive and crazy so much so the kid was legitimately scared… worst part is he just had a kid so it’s pretty worrying. I’ve never seen those shots so I wonder what’s in that crap?

@@drewmasondom i dont know what the hell it is but my girlfriend was scared of me as well she asked me to stop taking em cause i got super aggressive and im glad listened.. stay the fuck away from k shots 🤣 if you like your happiness

@@Galaxiiee02 I wonder if you two are also drinking lots of coffee at work. I found high amounts of kratom up the aggressiveness too, but at least I got some measure of sanity and got some euphoria, instantly coffee nukes the eophoria and amps up the stimulant effect before turning me into a crazy asshole. I feel like being exsmoker makes it worse though. I mean either way it may be related to opi rage too, which I understand is a thing that happens to opiate users also.

Read this comment and it reminded me I had some stored away in my supplement cabinet for pain. Coming off K after a year+. 24 hours in, Nothing crazy just feeling blah. But fasting, just went for a run, and, took some agmatine 3seconds ago. Your appreciated.

@@nolanwardy7409 Did it work? Does the cravings go away with Agmatine?

And you sound like you know what you´re talking about lol. You don´t just "come off" benzos...

People out here really trying to gatekeep sobriety lol

@@Besotted85 Oh i been there am still it takes a while I had a siezure too blacked out i went from 10 2mg bars a day to 0 cause i got locked up

Oh you’re so cool. Must suck going through life being a dickhead all the time

Not true.

Started with Boones farm at around 12yrs old ...fast forward through years of school toting a water bottle of liquor in the jacket or bookbag everyday(along with all the other "fun" substances life had to offer) Was up to around a handle of cheapo vodka a day for quite a while before I wrestled the Balrog and came back as Gandalf the White at the age of 27. Been sober for around 9* years now... minus a self-destructive two week bender after a painful breakup that felt like the end of the world...the breakup was not the end ... the leap from sobriety back into the jaws of the abyss almost was. Never experienced anything more daunting, harrowing, painful, frightening, humbling and actually life-threatening than alcohol withdrawal. It is not a contest though. If kratom is controlling you, throw that beast into the pit and chain it up. My booze balrog still awaits me if I ever am so careless as to think it is no longer a threat and I give it's chains slack .Smoke weed. That's the move.

I didnt sleep more than 2-3 hours a night for over a month. The beginning is nausea then vomiting and cold sweats. The restless legs lasted quite a long time as well. Any time you do fall asleep you wake up feeezing or sweating. It makes your body hurt to trick you into relapse. You can’t eat or barely move the first week. It’s not the end of the world but it’s definitely pretty hardcore if you dose high for a long time. Stop being childish.

Not moving. Vomiting for a month. Needing someone to help you into the bathroom. Not sleeping until you're hallucinating..... that's withdrawal

Yeah cause that makes this guys experience any less consequential or meaningful.

You sound fried lol

Every person is different bro

Lmao for real 🤣🤣 his next video: how I got over a 2 year coffee addiction

​@@zoomskiller Buddy Take white maeng da kratom every day an tell me how hellish life becomes when you stop taking it.

@@Trrippy_Shades I'm 6 years clean from heroin, miss me with "kratom withdrawal" lmao. Mild headache and irritable mood for a couple days awh man that sounds soooo hard :/

@@zoomskiller laughing your ass off the funny thing is you wouldn't be laughing if u went thru that , so u laugh at such misfortune,,might just breed Karma, whos then laughing. . enjoy

You're pathetic man, he bettering himself and you out here being a blood sucker

I used kratom for 3 weeks to get off of heroin. This is so ****ing weak lmfao

Oh you’re so cool!!!! Yea dude let’s smoke weed all day!!! Eat a dick dude

@@zoomskillerhow’s that weak? Cause he was addicted to kratom. What makes you better. You were addicted to heroin. I bet this dude never stuck needles in his arm!!!

@@ozzie4306 for one these people are very narrow minded people get addicted to diet coke fast food hell even a certain person in their personal life people who have addictive personality's can get addicted to things that are not even exactly addictive the guy on meth or w.e he claims wasnt on meth if it was 3 weeks only no relapse and he used kratom? people really do come onto the internet and just spew hate and lie because well their life is beyond dull

White maeng da is hard...I used 100proof liquor to off to completely stop