@@MrKilleralien Nah. But the Finnish justice system is stupid. You protect yourself and your home with kitchen knife against gun men and you get fines if you manage to damage the assailants. This actually happened. Not to mention known criminals getting 200000€ compensation for SUPO going after a lead of the said criminals knowingly plotting violent attack against SUPO ( SUPO is the Finnish special police force ) and then yelling religious threats at the police officer who detained them and towards Finnish citizens. More on that one on r/Finland. So yeah. Never fully trust Finnish justice system.
Story 3: Wait. So that lady tried to kill a teenager with a can of chili and got... *checks notes* a slap on the wrist? That's messed up, she needed at least jail time. That's so frustrating.
She got 6 months in jail. Which is the max for what she was convicted of (simple assault). She must have had a really good lawyer cause what she was charged with(Agravated Assault) that is years in Prison. I'm guessing the lawyer leaned real hard on the poor old lady angle to get that out of a jury.
How did the lady in story 3 NOT GET JAILED FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER!! Like who the hell throws a CAN OF CHILLI at someone then proceeds to only get 6 months in jail, suspension of what exactly? And paying others medical bills. She threw it. AT HIS HEAD!
Also assault on a minor...kid is 14 years old. She should have spent jail time, paid for all medical & legal expenses and replacement of the bike. Jury had to be made up of a bunch of entitled Karens.
@@SchererProductionServices if this happened in usa, this is the most karen can get if she didn't intend to permanently injure or kill op. but proving she did intend would be difficult. they'd have to have video of her continuing to attack unconscious op.
Honestly I was expecting the Karen to be like “you’re a firefighter!! Why aren’t you putting out that fire?!? You’re supposed to put out the fires not start them!! I’ll have you jailed for arson!!
Add CPS (or local equivalent) for the Child Endangerment and Child Abuse (dragging the kid by the arm into a active Fire Zone despite him being Terrified and wanting to leave ASAP)...
The story of the guy with neurofibromatosis is so sad. My aunt had the same thing and one time a woman in a grocery store stopped her to ask her what horrible sin she had committed for God to curse her like that.
Bruh. Im so sorry. I am a Christian and the amount of people who still believe the old catholic beliefs of how if you were bad enough God curses you, its disgusting. Those people arent true christians and are just looking for ways to be superior to others. Im sorry again your aunt had to deal with that. I pray God blesses you guys and you have a better day :(
I literally just saw a bumper sticker on a minivan that said If you hit my car with my baby in it... I'll whoop your ass until the cops show up. Lmfao 🤣
I cant believe she didn't serve jail time. He was a minor!! And throwing a can regardless, considering it was at his head (concussion) and the stitches, its disgusting the judge let her get away with it.
Story 3: Holy s**t, OP just said "I don't work here" and apparently, Karen took this as assault (not sure how that connects) and proceeded to basically lob a glass jar. And based on the court case, this was not an act of mental illness, Karen was 100% intent on nearly ending someone
"I don't work here" = "You have no power here" "I don't work here" = "I don't have to listen to you" "I don't work here" = "You're wrong" "I don't work here" = "Go away" "I don't work here" = "Leave me alone" And to people who love people to just "shut up and do what I say" that might as well be assault
Story 3: Was that jury stoned? She attacked a minor from behind, causing grievous bodily harm that required 9 stitches and they only convicted on the lesser included charge of simple assault?
Story 3: Assault and sending OP to the ER then demanding to be fired?!? Did the woman honestly think this would happen with the police and market employees. Man OP need some good karma going their way.
Too many Karens are having the charges reduced... and not being held to account. Not just aggravated assault, but attempted murder. She should have definitely had jail and had to buy the kid a new bike, as her actions had it stolen!
I feel like the judge/jury looked at it as well she didn't throw it with the express INTENT to kill op therefore it's not attempted murder now that I stop & think on it I think only a person who intends to commit 1st degree murder & fails can be charged with attempted murder as 2nd degree murder & manslaughter require there to be no active intent to kill yet a death occurs before the perp can be charged at least in the us
I once had to get taken by ambulance to the hospital, spent five days there. Got back home to find my home had been broken into, several of my guns stolen, my motorcyle pulled out of my garage, security chain broken. The fork lock made it hard to move so they left it. Some people will prey on those with medical emergencies and steal whatever they can! 😡
Lady story- thank you young man for assisting the autistic kid. You have the gift in understanding them. I work with autistic kids in college. Gosh- very smart people. I love how you handled this.
It's not that karens think everyone works there. It's just that they cannot conceive of the concept of their own judgement being wrong, so once they have (incorrectly) gotten the idea that somebody works there (for whatever reason), that becomes reality for them and they will not accept any other possibility. And the reason they always assume people are lying when they say "I don't work here" is because *that is exactly what they would do* if they were an employee somewhere (lie to avoid doing work), so they assume everybody else treats other people the same way they would.
There was a post where a neighborhood Karen picked a fight with the local honey badger. It didn’t end well for Karen. She survived the stabbing but went real quiet after that.
Story 5: I love OP for helping that young man and his Mom. What a great way to end DarkFluff. That older Karen should have been more patient. I hate the people who are older and think the world owes them to bow down just because they think they are privileged in older age. Ugh!
@@Shikaku2 I think it's more a succinct description of a neurodivergent's drive to focus on organizing something in particular in a way that brings them joy
🤬🤬🤬 *Story 3* *HELL NO! If that were MY son, I absolutely would have got my own justice as soon as she walked out of that courtroom! Guarantee!* *Absolutely VILE how the six months in jail was suspended AND they dropped charges to simple assault! You can bet, next time she does it and actually kills someone or puts them in a coma, THEN they'll charge her with Agg Assault and/or manslaughter!* 🤬🙄🙄🤬
I have a bonus grandson who's somewhere on the autism spectrum. He's in the later 20's now and he's a big boy, so luckily I think most people, even Karens, would hesitate to assault him. I've known him since he was 10yrs old. And I never try to even give him a hug without asking him. (I get them, usually the one arm side hugs that young men & boys like to offer) So when I was @ my father's funeral, I was actually surprised (&touched) that he came up to me and gave me a hug &pats on the back. I know that if something like this we're to happen to either of HER sons, my daughter in law would've been a very scary Mama-Bear. And my son would also be extremely angry.(He's a big guy too, so he can look very intimidating. (He's not a scary person but, like I said, he's a Big guy.)
@@s.h.6858 I'm under the impression from the comment that he is her step-grandson, as she said she met him at 10 years old and that her daughter-in-law is very protective of her sons. Sp not related by blood, but became his grandma by marriage if I understood correctly
My 12-year-old has an "I don't work here" story, but it's not very dramatic. We'd just been at a public transportation hub to get her a new bus card. She lost the last one, so I got her a lanyard for the new one, so that she wouldn't misplace it. You can probably see where this is going. LOL We stopped at a store on the way home, and my daughter drifted off toward the toy section while I picked up what I needed. A few minutes later, my daughter found me again, and I noticed she was wearing her lanyard. I told her, "Look! You're wearing a name tag," and laughed. Her eyes got big, and she said, "Oooh, that explains it." Turns out someone asked her for help in the toy section. I think it was just to reach something from a high shelf (She's very tall for her age) or similar, and she hadn't been able to figure out why they thought she worked there.
Karen actually thinks you can just grab people's ear and pull and they will not do anything back... If anyone pulled that on me they would be more than sorry. And I would also hold a grudge against the manager since he took Karen's word at face value without even looking at me to see if I worked there. You can't just make assumptions of a situation solely based on what some random person says.
We studied control burns in college (forestry program) and in a field trip watched one in progress conducted by one of the persons that refined the technique. Wind direction, plant moisture content (not totally dry) and other factors are involved. A change in wind direction can cause a disaster. The Society of American Foresters (SAF) has a book on the subject.
Story 1: as a wildland firefighter, fire ecologist, forester. Fires can change in a blink of an eye. And are highly unpredictable. Was always trained if any “lookie loos” are near ask them to leave, chances are they do not have proper training/PPE.
Story #2 was an interesting one. My father and I both have Neurofibro disease. My father has the worst case though, and he gets treated like crap, like O.P. did. IF O.P. IS READING THIS, ❤️ GOD BLESS YOU!
@@shannonraymartin3176 I also have it and when I go to stores like Target and other places like that I’m always with my parents or don’t wear the store colors to prevent incidents like that from happening
Story 3: OMG, Karen trying to play the victim when she doesn't have a scratch on her, while OP is unconscious on the floor and bleeding! Any idiot can tell she's not to be believed OR unrestrained! But then, idiots are geniuses compared to Karens.
The jury found the woman guilty which indicates they were not full of karens. If they were, they would have found the woman innocent. The judge must be super lenient towards the crazy woman by giving her such a light sentence for a serious crime.
@@BlooMonkiMan Oh yeah. Forgot about that. She probably did that to get off with a slap on the wrist. I wonder if the conviction shows up on her background check even if she got such a light sentence?
I shook my head too hard because you didn't warn me not to and now I've got whiplash or something and I'm going to sue you unless you give me $1000 compensation. I will speak to your manager and get you fired!
Regarding Fluff's epilogue to the second story, Karens don't forget that they put their hands on someone, they either intentionally forget or just hope that the cops will over look the fact.
Last story: The woman would have been given lip from me if it were my kid. Fierce Mumma Bear who's protective of her autistic cub! Love that OP stepped in, warms my heart.
Story 2: as someone who also has NF it really upsets me when a grown adult acts so entitled and assaults a disabled individual thinking they'll get away with it? that woman needs to be in prison for 50+ years for it.
Story 2: My best friend has neurofibromatosis (NF) and also gets constantly asked in public if she has M-pox. PSA : they look nothing alike. NF is a genetic condition caused by a mutation that happens long before birth. It’s so horribly demeaning for her. We once went to get massages and the therapist didn’t want to touch her. I’m a doctor, so I explained my medical training and the fact that you can’t catch a genetic disease, but even then she wouldn’t give BFF the massage without gloves. I think the lesson is to try not to make assumptions about others’ disabilities. Ask for information and listen.
@JamesDavy2009 Well, OP should say so. This is what happens when you use initials or jargon without FIRST explaining what they are... a lesson I learned from my Dad. I typed "PSA" into Google and got pages (literally!) on prostate specific antigen. Someone less intelligent than I would have wondered why OP would go there. So I rubbed OP's nose in his own mess.
3rd Story: That Crazy Psycho Karen rightfully deserves to be locked up in jail for the rest of her life. What she did to OP was NOT aggravated assault and battery, that was straight up ATTEMPTED MURDER! I mean--SERIOUSLY?! She threw a heavy can of chili at OP and nearly killed him all over some dang meat cubes and only got six months in jail for that?! UH-UH! She should've gotten six years to life in prison for nearly killing a minor. Plus, it also sounds like that Crazy Karen had some real SERIOUS anger issues, especially after doing something like that.
Pathological Narcissists seem to have a selective sensing of immediate physical danger. My Malignant Covert Narcissist sister did not sense the danger of walking alongside a street with no sidewalk in the same direction of the cars the drive mere inches away from her and even with her at-the-time infant son.
@@JamesDavy2009: Not only that, but there was a study done (I think it was back in the late 90s or maybe the early 2000s) that said that the main reason you walk against the flow of traffic is so that people can see your face, thus recognizing that you’re a person. Now, whether the unconscious recognition as a person translates to a conscious action from that driver, is a whole other question to be tackled.
4:40 yep! In New Mexico, in 2000, there was supposed to be a controlled burn. That burn, thanks to a change in the weather, took out dozens of homes and businesses.
Story 3: "Assault"? That doesn't even require contact. "Sentence suspended"? For an intentional, unprovoked, bloody attack on a minor that knocked the victim unconscious and *required* a trip to the ER? Yeah, this woman deserves _decades_ in prison or a high security mental hospital.
3rd story really enrages me! Who had the audacity to take the poor kid's bike while all of this was happening?! And the lady or the store didn't have to pay for a new one?! I'd file a lawsuit against the lady and order her to pay for more than medical expenses! I just hope the poor kid is doing okay and got a new bike.
I had a roommate hit me in the head with a picture frame went I told him he had to move out he went to jail for domestic violence and has a no contact order in place for a year
Can we talk about the Manager from story two? His first question wasn't even to ask OP his side of the story. He immediately went to asking OP who his supervisor was and assuming him guilty. Even when OP clearly didn't work there, how many times has the Karen in this story done this before? How many times did this manager just placate to the Karen and potentially fire people just to appease her? I would be calling corporate as well for his awful managing skills!
Story 2: I would not have been able to control myself if I were in OPs shoes. The officer would have arrived on the scene to find me on my knees with my hands behind my head already, and would arrive with the paramedics I called for Karen after I showed her how big of a mistake she made. Honestly, I'm surprised she didn't freak out about possibly catching whatever disease she thought OP had. She was never actually concerned about OPs condition. She just wanted to shame OP.
First story: the US may be portrayed as a “nanny society”, but the mom would be behind bars for child endangerment and interfering with firefighters, and the kid would be spending quality time with Child Protective Services, and rightly so.
Story 3 : look kiddoes, if you bonk your head, no matter the circumstances, to the point where you faint even for a minute. You go to ER. No buts, no however, no wait. Concussion can kill ! And I agree with you Fluff. "Don't call police...CALL THE CORONER ! And not for me"
Lived most of my life in Calif. primarily Los Angeles and Ventura Counties. Pick ANY year and search Calif wild fires for reference. We have had many brush fires (measured in 10K acres or more) that started out as camp fires and even "controlled burns" that went wild when a gust of wind hit it. 35 kt winds gusting to 50 kt turns a canyon into a blow torch.
Crazy fire Karen story: There is absolutely nothing safe about being around a "controlled" burn. It only takes a shift in the wind direction and/or a sudden gust of wind to change a controlled burn into an out of control wildfire. Target Karen story: OP, keep in contact with that officer and try to find out WHEN her trial (or at least when her arraignment) takes place and maybe talk to the prosecutor in the case. Given that it's likely to be her "first" offense (at least one she got arrested for) maybe the prosecutor would be willing to "give her a deal" in exchange for the replacement of your ear buds. Worth a try anyway. Skull vs can of chili story: I'm somewhat surprised OP didn't have a skull fracture as well (or he did and wasn't told). A concussion on top of the scalp wound as well was bad enough. Hopefully, she lost her job over this if she had one and wound up have CPS investigate her fitness as a parent provided she was one. Dresses story: I'm certain a polka dot dress with a raincoat has to be a clothing store uniform somewhere. Aren't you? On her butt Karen story: At least she was shamed enough to leave the store without having to get the manager, security and the police involved. Imagine that!
Story 3 (title story): I'm an EMT. I've seen a lot of things. So when I say I was concerned for that kid, you have context. Kids are very resilient, and less likely to be knocked unconscious. This kid not only was knocked out, but he kept lapsing. There's some serious damage, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are/were lingering or permanent effects. Keeping my profession in mind, heed me when I say the woman in the first story should be charged with endangerment; not only of her own child, but of the fire crew. They're that close to a live burn, and not able to focus on it completely because they're dealing with her insanity. And the guy in the second story... I do feel really bad for him. People have disfiguring conditions. Big f'ing deal. If it interests you so much, go get educated about it! Don't pull a Karen and throw a fit.
Story one: Not an I don't work here story, but an "I don't think here!" It might be hard to believe even a Karen can be that stupid and entitled, but I have known worse. We had a Karen in my ER demand the doctor who was rescusitating a cardiac patient "See my son right now!" for his very minor ankle sprain. She actually tried to take the defibrillator away form him! Even worse, my brother was in charge of the police response to a robbery in progress with the bandits in the bank with hostages when a Karen walked right past the SWAT team and headed in to use the ATM! She actually had to be forcibly restrained at the front entrance, and the hostage negotiator (brother) had the robber call out and ask what was with the crazy woman! Some people simply live in their own world.
In South Australia, volunteer fire-fighters have the right to arrest anyone who is interfering with them during a fire this includes police. They can be banned from the fire service if they disobey their orders or endanger people's lives or property. My sister was the person who trained fire-fighting instructors and she placed a police officer under arrest because he refused to move out of her way, she also had 3 senior fire-fighters removed from the fire service because of their complete incompetence. She is only just over 5 feet tall with blonde hair and blue eyes, but she can take out men twice her weight and out perform any fire-fighter.
Holy cow, the third story hit close to home, although I didn't have an "I don't work here" situation. The mention of OP's injury and the nature of it did because I've been in an almost similar situation. My situation is considered an accident and it happened in Stavropol (a rather big city in South Russia in the Caucasian Mountains area). I was being in this playground center with my distant cousin Kira to keep an eye on her, who at the time was 3 years old but would be turning 4 in a month, while her grandma was shopping with my grandparents in an entirely different shopping center. Everything go well, until I decide to slide down a tube slide and didn't take into account an angle at the end of the tube and I hit it. At first, I thought that I just hit that angle really hard because I felt some pain and I had to hold my head for a while. Only when I take my hands of the head, I see my fingers covered in blood and one blood drop falling to the ball pit. I scream for help and some employees help me get me somewhat clean, others looked after Kira and one notified Kira's grandma about the incident. I didn't feel dizzy in the slightest, my vision didn't even multiple, I just was scared and shaken. I ended up needing stiches and I think I got 5 - 6 of them. My stiches was removed 13 days later and that was a rather unpleasant sensation (it just didn't feel good during the removal). I now have a scar on my scalp as a reminder, but that incident scarred me in a rather weird way. Ever since then, I'm afraid of blood withdrawals, not blood in general, blood withdrawals. I literally have to close my eyes if I have to take a blood test in an attempt to make things a bit more bareable for me. As for Kira, she was scared too, but she literally demanded her dad to tell her about my hospital visit and treatment over and over again, and then she dealt with it by playing with her dad that she got into the same accident and her dad has to give her stiches.
On the story with Karen interfering with The Fire Department they should have just called the Police the first time she would not leave. I have heard stories of Karens causing problems for ambulances and other responders too. They often clearly have some sort of mental disorder. There is no other reason why they cause the problems they do. Any sane person who can see reason would not cause the problems or if they did they would quickly realize they are causing a problem, apologize and finally comply with the *lawful* orders!!
Story 3: even if op was a worker, heck, even if he was a slave, this is unacceptable behavior!! Its propery damage at least (for the can and/or if he were a slave) Assult garanteed And atempted murder at worst! This is the behavior of a person that needs a life long sentence behind bars. Be they prison or assylum.
So all these stories have taught me 2 things about Karen's. 1) every other person in any store Karen stops at works there! 2) everyone is always lying!
I ALMOST had an IDWH story. I was travelling for work and staying in a hotel room. I was composing an email on my tablet when I realized I needed some information from my truck. I left my room with my tablet under my arm. When I walked through the hotel lobby, an old woman was waiting impatiently at the front desk. We made eye contact, and I just got the sense she thought I was an employee and expected service from me, probably because I was holding a tablet and walking with purpose. I just strolled past to the exit. On the way back, my instincts were confirmed. She was now with a man who must have been her husband who asked me if I was another guest. I said yes and just kept walking. The way he said it suggested that she mistook people for employees all the time, and was probably compaining about me ignoring her to him after I left.
i am a volunteer fire fighter in germany, we hardly have fire fighters that do work full time for the fire brigade, only in big cities or companies with highly flammable substances or dangerous chemicals. we are trained, we have to train regularly in our free time, we do not get paid to do so yet people steal our equipment, interfere with our work, complain about sirens or where we park our fire trucks or the ambulance. people film others whoos live is in danger yet they don't call the emergency hotline or give first aid (wich is mandatory here and punishable by law), they block first responders, paramedics and fire fighters. we are not the police, we don't control you, we don't give out fines, we ceep you save. if we say you should stay back, you should stay back because it is saver for you or necessary to save someone else. fire and vehicles are always dangerous. saying "this is a controlled fire it should be save here" is that same as saying "oh drivers do have a license they know where the breaks are, my child is allowed to play on the road" save is a broad definition. if the fire was save there would be no firefighters, and it would be in a fire pit or a BBQ. sometimes I just wanna punch people for being so stupid they endanger themselves, especially if get blaimed by law because they couldn't follow a simple order like: "please leave, it's dangerous here"
I will say the same thing I say on every post DON"T EVER TOUCH ANYONE NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY SEEM TO BE IGNORING YOU GO FIND A MANAGER BUT DON"T TOUCH SOMEONE FIRST!
Why wasn't the karen in story 3 charged with assault of a minor if the OP was 14 that makes them a minor and she should have been charged and convicted for assault of a minor plus the loss of the bike since her actions allowed it to be stolen.
I would've responded that, "yes, it's controlled, but with you here distracting us, we can't do our job to keep it controlled, so, yes, you being here is a hazard."
Story 3: Seriously thats the punishment? The boy was underage, and could have died. Head wounds aren't something to look down apon. I wouldn't feel safe if she wouldnt go to jail for a long time. At least she should have felt how it feels to get a can of chili on her head. And a lot of psychic help (or how you write it in english...)
Story #2, She'd have gotten stomped Out.. I am a whole respected person outside of my job..... Even if you are an employee that does not give a customer the right to physically touch you under any circumstances.....
Story 2: I have NF type 1, too. It DEFINITELY hurt OP more. I’m literally listening to this while currently in pain from the tumor in my sciatic nerve lol. 😂
So I was just googling around about stories where adults attacked kids and what kind of sentences they were getting. OMG, so many soft-on-crime judges and prosecutors out there who DON'T give adults jail time for assaulting and injuring CHILDREN. Some of the reasons for no jail time ... adult is 'too good of a person'; 'adult didn't mean to hurt the child', etc etc etc. Just sit here and shake my head. If ANY adult had harmed, or tried to harm, any of my kids when they were younger, Well those adults wouldn't be around any longer.
