Story 1 - There’s an update. OP talked to her son as well as the school and rec center. Her son wants to stay with her, and the people at school and the rec center have been instructed not to give her child to those parents under any circumstances. The mother of that family tried to take OP’s son from school claiming that she was supposed to pick him up, but the front desk refused and had to call the cops to escort her out when she refused to leave. They’ve also been banned from the rec center and will have the cops called on them if they show up there.
Wholesome update to story 3: a lot of people in the comments told OP to thank his dad in actions, not words, so OP made plans to take him to the botanical gardens, and he'll be buying his dad more plants and equipment! A lot of people told OP to live a good and happy life, and OP fully plans on doing that, too, and is currently getting a degree in counseling. Go, OP!
I came to the comments to say that OP should not wait too long to thank his dad. It is very easy to put it off, until one day there is no more time. OP should tell or show dad how he feels ASAP. Remember, there are no guarantees in life!
Him getting a degree in counseling sounds great! When I told my psychologist about me possibly doing that she was supportive and said "you can't buy personal experience with any amount of money or gain it through studying, it is priceless."
Story 1: This actually happened to my mom and her siblings. My grandma was fighting cancer at the time, so SHE SAID YES. Turns out, "Aunt Mary" had done this before, and that's how we got "Cousin" David. She was horribly abusive, and my grandma literally had to kidnap her kids to get them back. A similar thing happened to me and my siblings in my preteens,as well. This stuff actually happens, and it's nuts.
My great aunt did this too her daughter and got her oldest boy, she also tried to do this to my mum for my brother and I, funny thing is she tried to give the same daughter to her sister (my nan) when her daughter was a teen. She is crazy even now.
@Matty Bruno Lucas Zenere Salas When my mother was a child, she and her siblings were bribed and then "adopted" by a lady they called Aunt Mary. My grandmother was fighting cancer at the time, so unlike the mother in the Reddit story, she agreed to hand her kids over. (Aunt Mary had done this before with a boy, whom we call Cousin David, even though he's not related to us by blood.) After beating the cancer, my grandma wanted her kids back, but Aunt Mary didn't want her to have them back, so Grandma had to "kidnap" her kids to get them back from Aunt Mary. This worked because there was never any kind of legal agreement or guardianship, just a verbal agreement, so Aunt Mary couldn't very well take it to the police. Unfortunately, Aunt Mary was very abusive to all of the kids in her care-- my mom, her siblings, and Cousin David. David's family never wanted him back, so he stayed behind with Aunt Mary and endured the abuse until he was old enough to move out.
The second I heard OP say “my parents aren’t narcissists but they’ve always favored my sister.” I knew they were in denial. Cuz like, that’s not an accusation people make without merit.
@@uni8514 well yeah. But what i mean is: Op is already on guard while initially writing the post. That either means they recognize the pattern but are in denial, or they have heard that accusation enough times before to be sure they will here too, which also speaks volumes.
@@RealCoolstriker64 it could also just mean they see the accusations a lot in general though. Like I agree they’re in denial about the abusive part but. Reddit does really like to jump to conclusions .
Plant dad was a tear jerker for me. I could never even dream of one of my dads ever even considering something like that for me. I LIVE for beautiful stories like that.
My dad passed away over a decade ago and I often worry I'd be disappointing him. But then I hear stories like this and I remember he just wanted me to be happy.
Same!! Especially since I've had to spend a lot of time in the phych ward, mostly because of s*icidal behavior. My dad has been the biggest support system in my life and I literally wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him, in more ways than one haha. He doesn't even know this but at the start of this year I was planning on offing myself. I had ghosted everyone in my life and never left the house. If he didn't bring me food and go behind my back and get me psychiatric help I would not be alive rn. Sorry for rambling, that story just hit very close to home. Take care of yourself! ♡
@@ACAB.forcutie I understand why you feel like that but I promise you, you aren't a disappointment. Just keep doing your best and I'm sure your dad would be proud. Take care of yourself ♡
@@mansikkapoika the last thing he said to me was "stay sharp". I've tried to do that but I always beat myself up for dropping out of school. He died during finals and I never recovered.
*Update on the people who are trying to take my son* "I have tried to post this update in True Off My Chest but it keeps getting autodeleted. Since I have so many followers, I figured I'd update here and hopefully it gets around. Well, what everyone feared would happen, did. Tuesday, he returned to school. I told him he could still talk with and play with Charlie. I was hesitant to drop him off but figured you can’t live in fear. Most afternoon, my son takes the bus to a local rec center for aftercare. I had already told the school everything and that Nate and Paige were not to pick Owen up. I managed to call and even make sure he got on the bus. Aftercare was also made aware of the change in pick up list. Well, a half hour later, I get a call that Paige had tried to pick up my son. The front desk refused to release him. Didn’t say why, just that she was no longer on the list. She wouldn’t leave and the police were called. She was escorted out of the building. While she wasn’t brought to jail, there is a police report and I am using this to go to court and get an order of protection. Paige and Nate are also banned from the rec center so if they *do* show up, they will get arrested for trespassing. The police are working on ways to protect us and the local social services office has been made aware of the situation, so should they try to make a claim, they’re aware of the situation."
Ugh I feel so bad for their son, too. Either he grows up not knowing his parents are would be kidnappers, which is bad, or he finds out they tried to abduct his friend, which is worse.
At first, I thought Charlie's parents were just being nice and helping out OP during her rough times, even if they are a bit...too nice. Then bam, the last part made me go "what the f*ck?". What they are doing is red flag city, while I feel sorry for Owen, I think this should be best for him, stay away from them. You never know what they might pull.
There was an update. Op called school and aftercare to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
Story 4: When parents favor a child, it is often that child who suffers the consequences the most. They are coddled, and their bad habits and behavior are brushed off. The sister would have done as well as the others, I suspect, if she'd had more discipline growing up. She has to face her own issues eventually, but the parents bear a huge responsibility for how she turned out.
My parents coddled my older brother for awhile, until they eventually realized they screwed up. Do you think they changed their ways for the better and raised us both fairly? Nope. We were equal alright, equally responsible for all of his bad behavior, equal in all his faults. Him being a liar meant I must also be a lair so nothing I said could be trusted. Him being lazy and a procrastinater meant I must also be and since I was apparently a lair too, I couldn't be believed if I said I did it already or didn't have homework. He didn't do his chores so we both got in trouble and grounded because I didn't remind him or help him do it. We both have ASD and ADHD but that didn't matter, I was always partially to blame. It wasn't until I had a break down when I was 17 and he was 22 that they finally stopped treating us like we were the same person
Story 1: Will never understand parents that full on disown their kids when they get/get someone else pregnant. Like, you've been pregnant/raised a child before. You KNOW how difficult that can be, yet your first response is to disown and abandon them?????
The first story was actually completely normal ... until it wasn't. It's entirely normal for childhood friends to stay at each other's place for like a week sometimes. So, there really were no red flags. That twist came entirely out of nowhere.
There was an update. Op called the school and aftercare to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
True. My best friend, basically a brother to me, when we were kids, I would spend like 2 weeks in a row sometimes at my best friends place during the summer. Almost every weekend we would be hanging out for the entire weekend.
When I saw the title of today’s video, I knew which story you were going to talk about. This story makes my stomach ache for the OP. Reminds me of the neighbor who groomed the girl next door and kidnapped her under her parents nose. 😩
There was an update on the first story, Paige showed up at the Rec center trying to kidnap Owen, but OP had taken both off the list, so when she wouldn't go away police was caught
@@krbthewitch She also explained to her son what they wanted, he was horrified and started crying because he doesn't wanna be stolen from his mother So money can't buy everyone ....Which is refreshing as I just came off a story about a blatant sociopathic menace who enabled daddy's cheating on his mother because the young hot stepmom made him popular and she bought him stuff
@@MiraTheWarlock Wow. I think I may have heard that one. And some people side with the teens no matter what... I feel sorry for the mom and hope she got everything in the divorce.
@@akl2k7 Not sure if she got everything, but she married a good man and had a daughter, so she had zero issue shunning her son, when he only reached out for money
First story: I grew up really poor as well. All my friends could afford school lunches and had Game boys, while I had to bring food from home and I drew a Game boy on a piece of paper so I could pretend to play Mario. But the thing is, my parents hid that we were poor from me so well that I didn't even know or care. I didn't know my toys were gifts from others, or that we barely could afford food, because I was so loved it didn't even register. Owen has a mother who loves him and gives him everything he needs, even if she can barely afford it. That's all a child needs.
that family is coo coo , they seem to believe that just because they can give the kid more expensive things the kid will want them more? what an egocentric way of thought
It's nice that it worked out for you, but my experience with childhood poverty is entirely different. Any money I came by had to go to my parents to feed their cigarette and beer addictions right until we were evicted and had to spend a few nights on the street before the Children's Aid made me a ward of the Crown. I don't think people who can't afford secure housing and healthy food for a full household should raise kids. They can have kids, they just shouldn't raise them.
@@agentzapdos4960 I feel you, I didn't mention this before because it wasn't really relevant but the biggest reason we barely could afford food was because of my dads substance addiction. I hope you are doing better now
For the adoption story. Those were not red flag at all, I have been friends of other guys that are only sons (I am too) and our friendship develop into calling each other brothers. OP was ambushed and it's clear the other parents were taking advantage of her situation.
There was an update. Op called the school and aftercare to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
It's so sad. They could have adopted OP and Owen. Some people will take a younger family under their wing so to speak. Their son would have gotten a brother and they would have gotten two bonus "kids" to take care of. Instead they went the crazy route.
@@wmdkitty irresponsible my fucking ass, if she was irresponsible, she would have not worked her ass off for her kid, if she was irresponsible, she wouldn’t have taken care of him. And no, she does not need to give HER child to the ‘superior’ parents
That flower shop story was so heartwarming! To go so far for your kid should be natural and the norm, sadly it isn’t but that dad seems to truly care and it’s a wonderful thing.
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 yea he could’ve done more conventional and easy and maybe even more effective things, however in the story we also get to know that he wasn’t much for showing affection like that. He did what he could with what he had, I’m sure if your kid is thinking about killing themselves you’re not going to be the most rational person around. Maybe he just did the first thing that came to mind that he thought would work, and to be honest? That’s waaaaay more than I can say for some people lol
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 basically, I don’t think he was really thinking of rational solutions at the time. Like therapy and stuff, that’s a rational solution to the problem of depression and suicidal tendencies. But when someone you care about is in such a bad way you don’t tend to be rational, I think he thought of the first solution that might have worked and placed all his bets on it. Was it the best solution? No, no it was not. Could he have pursued a faaaar better solution? Oh absolutely. Was it efficient? Well…kinda? but it could have been better. But at least he did something 🤷♀️ Many people just brush it off as being “attention seeking” or “just being a bit sad” or “faking it” and other such nonsense.
The dad in the second story is amazing. He loves his son so much to be there for him in the best/possibly only way he knows how. I teared up hearing his dad did that for him.
Story 1: in college, a friend of mine asked me to babysit her rabbit for a weekend but instead, left him with me for a month. I fell in love with that rabbit, and assumed he’d been abandoned with me. Nate and Paige see Owen as a pet who’s better off with them. Not a child with a mother he loves and needs. A LOT of people in the foster/adoption system feel this way about underprivileged families.
I was born to an "underprivileged family" and I'm not so certain. My parents couldn't even keep us housed because they had to have smokes and beer every day, and I ended up severely abused in the foster care system and then on welfare for life because I'm too fucked up to hold down a job. Nate and Paige took it way too far, though I fear Owen will grow to resent his mom for "preventing" him from continuing to have a more typical developed-world childhood and returning him to a life of just existing because that's all they can afford.
There was an update. Op called school and aftercare to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
Story1 Restraining Order! OP didn't see red flags because those weren't normal red flags. My husband and I have cared for other people's kids in exactly this way without ever having any ill intentions. Sometimes, kids and parents just need a hand. It sucks that she can no longer trust people who were seemingly her biggest allies. Hopefully, Owen will be OK after that couple's treachery. ❤
There was an update. Op called the school and aftercare to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
That is absolutely disgusting. They want to pull the Angelina Jolie card and try to take your child and then their reasons for doing it are that much more sinister. They want a consistent playmate for their own kid to compensate for not having a second child
There was an update. Op called school and aftercare to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
Story 4: Geez, they're defending the Golden Child sister even when there's evidence of her petty crimes and she's crashing hard? Yeah, those bridges ain't coming back
Soldier's Dad: OP, give your dad the biggest hug & thank him for everything he has done for you. You don't even have to mention the business, but you could if you think you should. You have an amazing dad!
The best thing for Owen is to be with his MOTHER. We helped SEVERAL times with my kid's best friend growing up. Including even having to register her for school and take her daily. She lived with us here and there for months at a time(her mother was an addict) I never thought for a second that taking her away from her mother completely was the answer or even an option. I had to get temp guardianship in order to enroll her in school, take her to the doctor, get her glasses etc. She loved her mom. As far as I know now, her mom has been clean for years. I am glad I could help and I loved the kid but I would have never tried to rip her away from her family.
There was an update. Op called the aftercare and school to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
That first story reminds me of a similar story, but my friend's mom hated me so she dropped me off at social services when my mother was paying her to take care of me while my brother was in the hospital. I ended up in foster care which felt like at least 6 months but apparently it was less than that. When i got back from foster care in middle school, she sent her middle child to my school because she wanted me to be buddy buddy with her because she can't make friends. Their house was way crappier than my mom's house so i don't get why they didn't take her kids away, they had like 3 kids crammed into one small room and would let them play with rusty hammers.
Story 4: now the mature thing to do would be to enjoy this quietly, and not say anything as she and your parents suffer the consequences for their favoritism. The slightly less mature thing would be to throw a party with your sip blame talking about how this is such deserved karma. The inventory thing to do would be to constantly bring as complete ignorance to the situation and enjoy watching them try to cover up their blatant failure. These are all the options on the table and none of them are necessarily wrong or right, just different. Although she did steal your money, and constantly lie just to get you in trouble.
Story 1 : op needs to tell her kid what those creepy jagoffs want and teach him about stranger dangers... Story 2 : op fiance projecting hard .. Story 3 : op dad is a true hero.. not everything is done by physical affection..op dad is not the "hugs" guy but silently a good guy.. Story 4 : that's the side effects of not being patented as a youngster you learn nothing and become entitled.. if I'm op or op other siblings I would go LC with the 3 poisonis things disgused as "family ".. Story 5 : op needs to find that girl again and help her file charges against his B word of a GF..
Stranger danger wouldn't help with story 1. These people were friends, and they met in a public place. They were family friends at that point. It's unfortunate that they used it against op.
There's an update to the first story, OP told her son and he wants to stay with her. She told the school and rec centre that the other parents aren't allowed to pick up her son, when the mother went to pick up OPS son she was told she couldn't and had to be taken out by the cops because she refused to leave
@Dragon exactly, when it comes to sa, csa, abuse, abductions, etc, so many different crimes, more often than not, are perpetrated by someone you know, love, and trust. That's the scary thing. Sure, be cautious of everyone, but at the end of the day, it's probably not gonna be a stranger who hurts you.
Story 3: this kind of reminds me of that episode of One piece where Zoro took all of luffy's pain, but said nothing happened even though he was completely covered in blood. You don't have to feel weird thanking him, what he was trying to avoid was making you feel like you're responsible for anything and you're not, your gratitude actually might make him feel good and you two can have a nice Father and Son moment.
For years my da would do the one arm hug with me. Finally I said ‘both arms, Da. I’m in my 30’s and I still need proper hugs from you!’. He laughed and promptly used both arms. Still does, I’m 52 now. He says ‘I love you’ with such ease now. I’m the baby and the only living child now, sadly lost my big brother and sister to their addictions and demons. I still remember coming back from overseas, I was active duty for over 10 yrs and only took one leave to try to help my big sister. We got in VERY late and were making our way to baggage when I saw my dad there waiting for me. I drop my bags and ran to him, both of us were sobbing but made a pack to never tell anyone 😂. My team had no idea I had any emotions outside of fierce, wicked sense of humour and angry and there’s their Lt. Col. sobbing in her daddy’s arms. They were sweating from their eyes! Just retired last year and I visit him as much as possible. He lives in Florida now but I’m trying to get him to move to South Carolina, I’ve almost got him sold! ❤ OP should definitely just give his dad a huge hug. Never know, he may like it.
First Story: Wow, ummm OP needs to get away from these two asap. These two give me the vibes that they might kidnap Owen. These two are absolutely weird. If they want to adopt a kid, why not reasearch an adoption center? Actually, no I don’t think they SHOULD adopt a kid if they only see that kid as a playmate for their child Second Story: Uhhhhhh, good intentions but weird concern lmao. I mean, cool that he is worried about his gf but this is a very weird concern to have lol Third Story: Wow, OP's dad is honestly a great man. Knowing he would be losing money, he started this plant business to help his son after the thing he tried to do in the military Fourth Story: Favoritism...I personally think its a form of abuse. OP's parents straight up favored the youngest sister above everyone else which is wrong. Good thing she faced consequences for her actions for the first time, sucks it wasn’t from her own parents though Comment: That is high levels on petty lmao Fifth Story: It sounds like OP is seriously in denial about his gf. She is a clear cut bully, seen her bully someone, and heard about her and her friend's nickname? She is clearly a bully and the fact OP claimed to have been bullied in elementary school, should be enough for him to not be around this girl
@@MiraTheWarlockfacts, especailly since they only want another kid so Charlie can have a long term playmate instead of actually loving and caring for the kid
Shit. Story 3 hit me hard as a truck. As someone who went through _dozens_ of unaliving attempts, it amazed me how much there are parents who care and would do anything to make their offspring thrive again. The dad took that out of his heart, gone out of his ways just to make sure his son had a thing going on; and even managed to connect with him more than he ever did. Damn. My asian mother literally would never, in fact, she did the opposite since I was born
#1... I moved 2000 miles with no forwarding address and cut my mother out of our lives because my mother tried taking my kid. I was the only single parent & girl in my family. My brothers had stay at home wives. We had an intervention on my mother. They told her if she would do this to me she could do it to them. I cut her out for over 20 years. I dont regret it.
Yeah, there was no warning signs in the first post, everything the couple did was considerably benign, there was no way OP could’ve predicted they would pull something like that.
There was an update. Op called the rec and school to make sure they don't pick him up. They actually tried to pick him up behind OP's back, but thankfully the receptionist refused. Since they refused to leave, police was called. Thankfully, the cops are on OP side, so if the kidnappers try again, they will be in jail
Story 2: “today I got a text, the skid mark trick works love you” I AM DYING IN A COFFEE DRIVE THROUGH 😂😂😂 protect this man at all costs, very weird that he went into the bathroom right after she used it to smell, but oddly sweet.
Stort One:Page and Nate come off as not just entitled but judgemental do to OP's age Story two: honestly I understand OPs husband concern as that could have been a legit medical problem if it was true Story Three: OPs dad is how a actual father acts Story Four: ya I understand thar as my own Lil sister was kinda like that with our dad till he found out she was sneaking out and joy ridding in the family cars and it all changed and changed more when I moved out ... we are on better terms now Story five: oh joy ' those ' kinds of individuals who things it's ' cute / funny ' to be a bully
The one with the 8-year-olds the parents should have invited them both to stay in the house. They could have made a room for the 24-year-old and her 8-year-old son and made something work so that the three adults and the two children could live in the same house and they could have what they wanted in effect without separating the boy from his mother. Plus it would be a hell of a gift for that woman who is certainly sacrificed a lot for her kid
Story 3 had me crying, especially at the part where the mom confessed about the business and basically how it saved op's life. It just made me miss my own dad. I feel like he would have done anything if it meant helping me.
Last story: I can tell OP is Young because he believed her when she said there mean but she's not like them. I mean don't get me wrong friends can have differences, but usually assholes hang together. And if she was really her friend and how come she didn't follow the group as they were laughing and walking away? Sorry OP, but you're dating a bully that tried to hide it from you because she knew you wouldn't like her if you saw her true colors. Some advice though be careful, if you dumped her over this she will bully you too, that does not mean stay with her that means avoid her.
Yeah, cause listen. I'm a nice person. And all my friends are, but at thesame time all of my friends have the same levels of sarcasm and bitchiness when we joke around. Ya know? If I ever said "my friends are jerks, but I'm not." They'd Gibbs smack me and remind me that their names in my phone are bitch and whore. 😂😂😂💀💀💀🥰
Dude that's crazy. When my mom remarried and we had a better financial situation I had a friend who's parents weren't that well off and we were sad over summer break that we couldn't spend as much time together when we came up with the idea that he could just come with us if his parents were fine. It was quite the luxurious place so they were hesitant about the price but out parents agreed to split his cost 50:50 and it worked out great. That's why I feel so bad for OP blaming herself for not seeing signs. Nate and Paige are nuts to even bring it up and play the "it's best for your son" card. In an update they even tried to pick him up from school even though they weren't allowed to which made the school escalade to law enforcement. Absolute crazies.
My theory for “why not foster/adopt” is that they wouldn’t know the kid as well. They were doing this for a long time, making me think they were scoping out Owen in his “natural habitat.” They couldn’t have done that with a foster kid and would have had to run the risk of getting a “broken” one. It’s a terrible mindset.
Story #1: Or how about becoming a foster parents? There is an extreme shortage of foster parents. I know 3 families who've wound up adopting their foster children. Of course, each took in 3 and 4 siblings which may have upped the odds for the adoptions.
I wouldn't be surprised if they've tried and been declined based on some previous behaviour or other concerns that came up during the screening process. The other child's mother seemed to be familiar with some of the legalities of custody, though she could have familiarized herself with those at any time.
Story 1: Honestly, they would've spoiled Owen to death. OP is doing just fine as a parent, and basically depriving OP of Owen is just bad. The neighbors could've just adopted some other child. If they can afford a s**t ton of gifts, then they can afford an adoption
Second story - the thought of a significant other coming into the bathroom to sniff for a poop smell after you’ve gone, makes me very uncomfortable. I’m a private person and I would seriously have an issue with my spouse doing this. Like, “what in the f are you doing?! Mind your business!”😂😂 I don’t see it as sweet at all. It’s just weird. Lol
Even if those parents from Story 1 did manage to conceive a sibling for their other kid, I don’t imagine they’d be treated very well. Siblings who were born to be playmates for another kid are almost *never* treated well by the parents because, well, they essentially wanted to make a pet out of a kid.
My mum had a friend that tried to kidnap my brother(twin), and I when we were babies around 2-3 years old saying to my mum that she can look after us and my mum rightly so broke off any contact with her and 20 years later still tells this story.
Story 3: I've said it before and I'll say it again; after so many stories involving super toxic families, cheating/lying/backstabbing spouses and insane entitled Karens it is so uplifting and refreshing to have rSlash covering wholesome stories!
The answer to "why not adopt instead of getting another person's child" is because said person's child has already been raised, is respectful and educated. A foster kid means to do everything again, so it's more work. For a couple who as entitled to want to get another person's kid, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that's the reason.
Story 2: I had my gallbladder removed when I was 13, and in 30 years, I've never had concerns about leaving skidmarks on the toilet seat. It's not that difficult to aim at something that I'm sitting on.
Yeah, are toilet skidmarks really that big of an issue? I still have my gallbladder (though, I'm not entirely sure what relevance it has? It seems to me only your anus/sphincter would affect your "aim?") and I rarely if ever leave them, like it's happened a few times in my entire life, so considerably less that once a year... and that's inside the bowl, not on the toilet seat... what is this guy going on about?
I am a bit confused as well. The only times I left skid marks on toilets was because I had not cleaned my butt properly the previous time I pooped. I experienced this during covid as I gained 70 pounds and cleaning my butt became more difficult. I adapted and am slowly losing the weight, so this is no longer an issue. That was absolutely disgusting for me. Me being a 300+ guy am confused by people assuming skidmarks on toilets are expected. Also "aiming", how and why is aiming needed for pooping? Do they need big toilet seats or to actually sit down. If they can't clean themselves, buy a bidet add on to the toilet.
@@threecards333 That's another thing, I used massive air quotes for the word "aiming" (though, when writing things out, it's one size fits all). If your pooper isn't perpendicular to the floor, and pointed straight down... you're doing something wrong. Like, you don't need a level or anything, it should be second nature by, say age five?
Never mind, gallbladder, aiming, and anything else, don't people look behind them when they are finished? I always check if everything is the way it is supposed to be. There is usually a toilet brush next to the toilet, and you can use some toilet paper to wipe anything else, plus you can usually re-flush if need be. Geez guys, we are grown-ups, aren't we?
@Wendy O. Koopa In my case, since my gallbladder was taken out, I've always gone a little more regularly. What the gallbladder does is store and concentrate the enzymes that the pancreas creates in order to give a kind of kick-start to digestion, and without it, I have to use the bathroom 20 minutes after every meal. It's as if the plumbing doesn't have anything to do until the next food pushes through, or something.
The last story: I concur. OP needs to dump her. His girlfriend is the mean girl and her posse are a bunch of bullies. Clearly she has no respect for boundaries, zero comprehension of the word no and no accountability. Therefore she has no expectation of there being reprisals as well as consequences for her actions. I also fear for OP's well-being now that he has called her out. She's already denied and deflected about her toxic abusive behavior. I wouldn't be surprised in order to mask that she's the problem, if she tried to claim he was abusing her. OP should cut and run while he has the chance, but keep any proof he has of her being abusive. I think it will save him in the future.
As the single guardian of a little boy, I can actually absolutely see how this could happen. I've never let my little guy go somewhere without me or another family member, and when he does (go with the family member), I'm paranoid the entire time. Freaking HORRIFYING.
Last Post: There is a Reason they are called the Bully B^^^^^^. Either they are constantly roughhousing each other and it makes them outcast from school, which I think is unlikely, or the much more probable option, they are bullies and are lying to you because they are also playing with you.
Bully girlfriend… a month in? Leave fast. If she lied about her not being a bully but in turn almost rips someone’s hair off their head… consider it a red flag and when you leave, a bullet dodged
8:50 just.... Clean the toilet after pooping?? Am i like over self-conscious about my pooping? Idk ill never ask my husband that. In the week after my labour he kept asking if everything was ok in that area. Im pretty open about peeing but i begged for him to stop with the questions. 11:57 oh god he used his savings to basically save his kids life. Oh such a good dad omg
WTF are skidmarks in the toilet story? My knowledge of skidmarks are the brown streaks in your underwear if you don't wipe properly, what are skidmarks on the toilet itself? Did the partner get his poop on the seat? That's not a normal thing, learn to freaking SIT!
Op 1, there were no red flags for you to see there. Straight up. When I grew up, my family included my best friend in pretty much everything. He stayed over at least 4 times a week and tagged along on vacations without having to pay. My family was not rich but despite that, my parents just wanted him included as he was like a brother to me. Mine and his parents had great contact and remained friendly throughout our entire youth. You did absolutely nothing wrong op, they went way over the line with their request.
Story 1: as you said, they want a playmate for their kid. So it's kinda... a toy? We know kids are used to get bored of their toys eventually, right? And what if, eventually, they had a fight? Decided not to be friends anymore? How and where would this kid be?? How entitled and clueless can people be???
Yeah I agree with the red flag point Rslash made- there really weren't any! Everything is only connecting in hindsight, and tbh if OP sees these as full red flags, it will be difficult for her son to have real friendships in the future My mom used to take care of everyone, all my friends would come over after school constantly, my friends would stay the night if something happened with their parents, everything. The only time my mom tried to get custody of one was when their foster parents decided they were too old to have kids any more, and they wanted to put them back into the system. My mom asked them for guardianship so my friend wouldn't have to move and leave our IB program at school. We only ever got into that situation bc their parents decided it first! Although my mom was always poor, so... Maybe the red flag was actually that the neighbors are rich!
The second story baffles me. Like, do they not have a toilet brush?? Why is their toilet slowly building up skidmarks over time and they haven't thought to clean it after use?
“I’ve been pooping in my backyard so no one finds my skid marks” I mean personally I just run some warm water into the toilet (I’ve a cup on my shelf I keep my toothbrush in), add a small bit of bleach onto the toilet brush and give it a quick scrub, but pooping in the garden works too!
Oh to work at a plant store with my mom all day long. That sounds like an absolute dream. It doesn't have to be a plant store it could really be any type of store - but having a small family owned business and working with family sounds amazing. Unfortunately that could never happen to me.
In the last story I think that OP should Go find the girl whose hair was pulled and ask her out she's probably cooler than his girlfriend or soon to be ex hopefully.
Last story: My advice would be have it out with her publicly, and when it's obvious she won't repent, dump her publicly. Not only does that show her you don't accept that and refuse to support her doing it, it shows everyone you have great standards and self worth. It might not have any effect on her personally, but it shifts everyone to your side regardless, and gives you a wealth of supporters should she turn the nasty on you.
Dabne, of course they want Owen. Charlie likes him, he's sweet and polite, and they don't want the hassle to "housebreak" a fosterchild, who might has some abuse skeletons in the closet. Owen are a more perfect fit. But Dang, those are creepy af.
Story 2: every person's stomach works in a different way. I, for example, don't smell badly. It's true that I tend to use some form of freshener, such as liquid soap in the toilet, but overall, it's okay. I used to have a roommate, however, who usually left the toilet with such an awful smell that it's impossible to enter the bathroom immediately after him. He was a great roomie nevertheless. So, I can understand the confusion.
She's a bully two choices. Stay with a bully or brake shop. If you're smart you'll break up or get ready for the repercussions. Also tell her you're breaking up with her cuz she is a bully!
Story #3: Skid marks? If ya leaving skid marks behind when taking a duce, time to restart potty training. Story #4: Love are ALWAYS seen through one's actions. Showing up, being supportive and present, that's love. My Dad's a Boomer too, that's just how many men of that generation are. Not verbally affectionate but you know they love you.
The business with dad story made me tear up, and I never cry for these videos 🥲 somehow knew instantly what the dad was up to trying to take care of OP, that’s amazing.
Story one: I wouldn't call "We wanted our son to have a brother but that didn't happen. So we are happy to let your son play with ours so he isn't lonely" a red flag. I'd say it's more a pink flag. Potentially harmful, but also potentially harmless. Like if they are rich enough to afford to bring OP's son along on vacation they are probably rich enough that money doesn't bother them. Of course in this case it was harmful. But I am talking hypothetically.
I hope that the kid in the first story The one whose parents are crazy is able to grow up fine and if he is fine that he can still be friends with OP's kid.
to the Vet - your dad loves you massively! His actions speaks volumes compared to words! Hes shown you over and over and over how he feels about you even if he does not say it. Me, i would talk to Mum and see what hes 100% into and buy something there or pay for a really nice holiday as your mum also paid for ythat help even if it was not directly, there was still things they didnt do because of it
S2: I had to listen again because I was laughing my butt off. Anyway at least he was concerned and the pooppourri does a wonderful job of keeping poop odors away.
My wife and I are unable to adopt due to my health issues and the fact that I’ll most likely die in a few years. We are also unable to have kids, normally. It pisses me off that a family like the first story have the option to adopt and get a kid out of that system, but want to basically kidnap a child. What the hell
Ok say I have said this a couple of times but with bullies it is only a matter of time before they piss off the wrong person. I have witnessed that happening, the bully got their ass kicked so bad it was more like a beating than a fight.
I can relate to story 4, my younger sister (40+ years old!) who dropped out of middle school still lives with my parents. I wish they'd wake up one of these days.
With the last story, be prepared for retaliation if they dump her. She seems like the type. Thought that retaliation would happen eventually as I wouldn't see that relationship lasting.
So, I only poop like every 2nd or usually third day. Sometimes I'll like poop 2xs on poop day just to make sure everybody actually left the party if you know what I mean. But I for sure do NOT poop daily. Is that bad?
This reminds me of the Laura Ingalls Wilder series, where we meet the Boasts. A suspiciously childless couple who are extremely generous and make a deep friendship with the Ingalls. It's not until Laura and Almanzo have a child, that we find out their endgame. It turns out, Mrs. Boast can never have children. Mr and Mrs. Boast offer to trade a horse out of their stable, for Baby Rose. Their reasoning? Oh well, Laura can always have more kids! Laura is instantly creeped out and they leave, never to return. Spoiler alert: Laura did NOT have any more kids. (She had a boy that died in infancy, but that's beside the point).
the first story has an update, which i'll copy and paste here (tho there are others): Well, what everyone feared would happen, did. Tuesday, he returned to school. I told him he could still talk with and play with Charlie. I was hesitant to drop him off but figured you can’t live in fear. Most afternoon, my son takes the bus to a local rec center for aftercare. I had already told the school everything and that Nate and Paige were not to pick Owen up. I managed to call and even make sure he got on the bus. Aftercare was also made aware of the change in pick up list. Well, a half hour later, I get a call that Paige had tried to pick up my son. The front desk refused to release him. Didn’t say why, just that she was no longer on the list. She wouldn’t leave and the police were called. She was escorted out of the building. While she wasn’t brought to jail, there is a police report and I am using this to go to court and get an order of protection. Paige and Nate are also banned from the rec center so if they *do* show up, they will get arrested for trespassing. The police are working on ways to protect us and the local social services office has been made aware of the situation, so should they try to make a claim, they’re aware of the situation.
