Race in Black and White 

Every time I listen to Dr. Joy talks I come away with deeper insight.

Joy I identify with u, thank you for keeping it real!!!

Auntie came through and killed it!!! I'm in awe of this family discussion. Just loving it. Thank you for sharing. More please!

These real conversations are timeless and priceless to me. Thank you!

The prep work to these conversations are fundamental! I always love the wealth of knowledge you pour into us. Thank you. I honor you both!

Great discussion ladies, thank you 😊

Beautiful sisters! Bahia looks just like Joy.....Love seeing/hearing these gorgeous brilliant warriors!

Love from South Africa! I'm new to this channel, but already addicted. Thank you for sharing.

They will deflect and say your experiences in the world are Anecdotal and hence dismissed.

💯Bahia! Good to see you Fiskite.

This conversation is life!! You ladies are on point. 🙌🏽

Greetings, OMG this was one of the most incredible shows of HEALING since my beginning to look at your platform. Thank you so very much for having Aunt Kathleen on really. My maiden name is Cross, just saying lol. This conversation is so prevalent on the island /country of Bermuda where I met you, Dr. Joy. The diagram is exactly what is a large portion been on this island country. The more like Aunt Kathleen is the other half of the chart in the past 30 years, so this next generation meaning my 30-26 years male seeds know this as the norm. This is an amazing conversation. There is a race association here that does NOT do the real work. I've gone twice and done what I thought was the real deep work, but, it was thrown back to being my issue of being "too black". Welcoming to this conversation with the three of you is on point. Thank you all for being what is necessary for "HEALING"

Thank you so much for being yourselves. It really makes a positive impact on me. Blessings to all three of you. You think Ms. Kathleen could be on your weekly zoom? Just a thought! 🙏🙏🙏❤️

I love my black complexion dr. Joy D. Keep up the great work you do

This should have 1 million views

You’re more than appreciated, Dr. J! Thank You So Much for Your dedication and being a beacon of LiGht to our Beloved People!! May The Most-High continue to bless You (Family) & Work!! Much Love and Many Blessings, Damien L. Powell

I just want to sit at the feet of Dr. DeGruy and learn all day.

*I wish I was your student, Dr. DeGruy.*

A crucial & beautiful conversation 🧡💙💚

As a proud foundational black woman for the love of me I can't understand or respect the vague insulting term " People of Color" ! If you're looking for a fight call me that! Language is important and low self esteem is rampant in American culture period !

I love and miss you Joy at the Bahai Center...you were one of my greatest inspirations ❤

As a black man alot of times black men feel intimidated by black women. It becomes a challenge and we don't like that .I'm married to a dark skin sister and her strength empower me to do better I'm accountable to uphold my role as a black man in our marriage. Love it.

OMG! THE LADY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN HAS IT!! It's spiritual, period! 🙏 Pride filled.

Powerful message. Informative conversation. Peace.

Thought-provoking conversation!

What I say to white people is I can't fix racism because I didn't create racism I can only tell them my experience to how I react to racism and what can they do to change that

A beautiful impromptu family discussion. Also, it was refreshing to hear Bahia was confused, as a child, to hear someone attempting to be disrespectful by using skin color. I only thought, what a beautiful and accomplished upbringing. Salute to Mama Joy and the village that instilled those traits.

This is some of the best commentary I have ever seen in this life. Please don't be lazy... hit the like button.

I've been watching Dr. Degruy for many a years, watching her on RU-vid & Like it is. I love her sense of humor & her stories really stuck with me, so much so, when I need my children to get it together & act right I say to them "Look we are not singing in Lesotho!"

I am here after watching the movie passing...great conversation as a companion piece to the movie

I believe that through the revolution of dialogue resolutions is revealed.

I learn so much each week. Love you ladies and hope to meet you some day.

Recently used Dr. GeGruy's example of who manages institutional systems of racism to dispel the myth/opinion of "Black people can be/are racist".

Great conversation. Love your videos.

Listening to you ladies I can delineate what are expressions of love versus the banter of politics. Stating the heartfelt motivation to help, protect, heal, and change the murderous actions against people. This exchange shows a loving connection as opposed to not bringing feelings into the conversation and/or claiming that BLM is a war cry, is politically based imperialism. This is the reason it, in fact, equals being happily uninformed. Ignoring the lives that you help to destroy because of privilege is hateful. These acts are not from the head intellectual because the head is attached to the heart, the hate is political training.

This was very an informative vlog, I got a lot of insight from listening to your Aunt Kathleen. I trust you will have her back on soon, I felt her sincerity!

Very informative discussions, I always learn new information! It's so sad that colorism still exists in our society and world.

This is such a necessity for western powers. I want more of what you powerful women have to offer. Please include me in your forums. I am a native New Yorker child of Caribbean immigrants. You know what happened to them. I will be in attendance for your future forums. Thank you.

Gerald Francis, Great discussion, Miss Kathleen is right there is no urgency what so ever out here, that will be their undoing.

You gals have no idea how hard this hit home to watch. Dr. Joy everything I've openmindedly listen to has hit me sideways AF with true sincere daily routine of dealing with life in general for me. I am mylatto and native American my mother is African and native American and my sperm donor (lol that's literally all he ended up being) he was not just a white man but a young white man coming from a very long line of confederate far right wing army raised bigots... Jungle fever and Romeo and Juliet neither one have anything over my life story living deep in the racist Midwest state of Missouri.... Lawd have mercy I felt everything Kathleen said I know that whole sorry ass story. I lived the whole 44 almost 45 yrs I've been alive. Bless all of you beautiful women! You have no idea how much it means to me to hear my own opinions and thoughts and arguments come from other ppl mouths helping me see I'm not crazy that there is validation to my views and my life story dealing with brutal and bold and even unconscious racism that I've lived through. Ty so damn much! What I wouldn't give to share some of the bs I've had to deal with and continue to deal with even to tHis day friends family and strangers. It's. Hell.

Shalawam House of Yashra’al!👋❤️🙏🏿

Dr Joy DeGruy several years ago there was a program on the OWN channel the history of Black women. There was interview of several African American women who’s sons where killed. There are interviews of you Black girls , poet. I tried to reach out to the own channel. That program had so much information, that I feel it should have been shown Mother’s Day, and black history month at least twice. Because when your listening to so much knowledge, your going to miss things that are important. It’s such a pleasure to listen to you. Thank you.

2 yrs late but this was incredible. Never heard of Baha’i dunno how I got here but .. yes

I always love your content. Thank you

Thank you Dr. DeGruy for educating us outside the classroom. I desire to grow in history of our people and of self. What books would you recommend I can read to gain knowledge on accurate black history and books that are accurate for elementary kids?

Excellent content. This is the value of being relationship-oriented people. Connection with soil, sweat, tears and other people is the spice of Life. The journey is sooo important. Other folks are not disposable objects.

Love 💖 love 💘 love ❤️ your videos about race and racism

Only had a slight disagreement with two spots; @1:35 the mixed-race man was indoctrinated from birth to revered white women...how could he not? His father married a white woman and he came from a womb of a white woman. Which is a whole other conversation about mixed children being considered black when they're birth from a white womb. This is why I cringe when I hear brothers say they can produce black children from a womb that is non-black. I'm well aware they would be treated as black by white America but it still doesn't prove they are black children. The sisters mentioned their faith encourages IR's marriages well OK FINE!. However, why dismiss the reasons of how he was brought up. He was brought up to believe his mixed heritage was the wave of the future. So why downplay his reasoning of the very tenets their faith encourages.

Love the hat and the t- shirt. The conversation very interesting. Lately I’d been getting more attention from men of a brighter hue. Basically I check every man’s focus. Positive vibrations matter in any relationship.

Bahia don't feel bad I have that whole thing with jokes. There is a whole scenario that plays in my head, it actually makes the joke even funnier. And I wind up laughing louder & longer then everybody else.

This is ancestral power live time. Cut from a divine cloth. Love and respect

As a dark skin black woman seeing the marriage chart is hurtful and discouraging. 1:26

This is a great show.

Thanks ladies I really appreciate and enjoyed your reasoning

She took it all the way back to Klymaxx...those were the days. 😊

Listened to the whole thing AND wanted more.

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Loved it

Oh I wish I could get an invite to some of your conversations. I'm a career Soldier, college educated, minor in history, father to biracial children (two of them sons), currently having those conversations with my kids. I've had a couple of those "hard conversations" with coworkers, but in my profession, it's not a topic that is had at work. I'd love to be in your conversations.

Ms. Kathleen, I like your PP slide. I'd also say it has something to do with exposure. I'd love to discuss.

Eternal in there consequences 🙌🏾

I enjoy listening to your ladies. Love and respect to each of you. For the sister chart about black men IR dating is Informative but there is research from another perspective. The research was done by white women. And it said that Black women man prefer white men over all other men. And black men refuse to be second choice to another group of men, and this part gets dismissed. This also goes into the respect leave black women has for black men and the term "settling" as if black men are not good enough.

The Black Woman is SUPERWOMAN

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Maaaaaannnn, LISTEN......

It’s hard to have a conversation with those who are traumatized. Often the conversation is founded on cognitive distortions (over generalizations, personalizations, mind reading, etc) and when one attempts to name the cognitive distortion, the traumatized feel like you are ‘denying their lived experience’. I have a good book for you to read, PTSS. Although I think that book even underestimates how historic trauma manifests in the traumatized. Thoughts?

24:59 "Whenever I've been a part of any equity and diversity team, and every time I’m inevitably the only black person (and that’s ridiculous) … In those spaces, when they say “can racism be solved?”, I’m the only one who says yes. Always the only one. And they all feel guilty because I’m the only person in the room who thinks it can be ended.” - Bahai Overton

00:50:32 THANK YOU!🤣👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️

I am 59 yrs. Old and I have never been married.

Hello Queens! The Truth crushes eggshells. The truth will not allow us to continue to TIPTOE around our abusers feelings. SEXY K

great discussion as usual

Dr. Joy do you teach a class now in 2023?

Classic

This video was 2 years ago. I wonder if this woman has been hospitalized yet.

I got 2 dark skinned daughter and dark skinned son with dark skinned wife I wouldn't trade it for the world and I'm dark skin man

It doesn't matter how long is better how old you are.

@Katherine Cross closing questions, to be honest as professionals we have seen that the biggest problem hindering Nonwhite people from getting it on and dismantling this thing.. is metaphysics and philosophical morality aka moral absolutism. We wont do what they did to be free in fear of metaphysical moral comparative. "Only a sociopath can rival the psychopath... then the therapist can work"- KCG. The more we talk to these ppl the more data they collect to refine/ intellectually immunize themselves.

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Welsing

I get it now. The push back on Biden / Harris win is taking away the priviledge to ignore!

Great conversation just confirmation for myself.

You can change the frame but the picture remains the same! Racism.

Twins! 😍

Recommendations for Dissolving of institutional segregation. Instituting 8 year Term Limits for all Federal and state as well as County and local municipalities, law enforcement agencies, for all EMT service providers, as well as all state institutions a public service, librarians, caseworkers, unilaterally across the board dissolving the grandfather paradox.

I love listening and learning from Dr. Joy and her daughter; however, I must take acception to one point that was made by Dr. Joy's daughter; and that is the declaration that racism can be solved. While I understand her point that it is within human capability to overcome racism; I also know that it is not within white will to do so; and it hasn't been for over 400 years now (1619-2019). This should inform us on their intentions. When speaking on human capability regarding temptation, the bible says: Matthew 26: 40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? 41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. This is especially true when dealing with racism. Although some whites express a willingness to understand racism, almost none of them actually make efforts or structural changes in their institutions to effect change in society or dismantle racism. For example, the very white person that insisted on a "play date" with Bhatia's daughter will most likely also not correct family members who demonize American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS), for fear of exclusion; and she will likely not speak publicly regarding police shootings or inequalities on the job for this same reason. The spirit is willing, but the flesh knows that if it supports the ADOS community by going against the racist pillars of society (family, church, work, school, etc.); then the quality of life and privileges they have become accustomed to (and that is paid for by keeping ADOS as a bottom caste); will not be there for their posterity; and even though it's the right thing to do, it's just not feasible. As history tells us, there have been abolishsionist and liberals and bold-speaking white individuals; but somehow, there's never been consistent effort on the part of "good whites" to effect transformative change, whereby whites don't revert back to where they started with regard to racism. So then what's the answer? For me, the answer is found in the bible. Father YAH promises to destroy Esau, whom HE hates; and to restore Jacob, whom HE loves. Otherwise, there would be no hope. Jeremiah 31: 7 For thus saith the LORD; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations: publish ye, praise ye, and say, O LORD, save thy people, the remnant of Israel. 8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither. 9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn. 10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. 11 For the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. Be blessed. Shalom!

So in the Bahia faith, who is marrying the black women?

It’s all about the Spirit and not the skin. This is the first that I sported my naturally black and grey hair. Blond hair didn’t make me beautiful my heart did! SEXYK

1:24:00 how tf is it violence to hv a preference? This is black feminist bs I’m a human being I can like what I want we hv to refute this foolishness Shout out to dr.T Hassan

Shard and chard this is the emotional roller coaster code switching

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What do we do in America we couldn't watch another country do in other words if you go on vacation and you see American racism coming from a foreign country you would be truly shocked the mirror will be turned directly towards you you would actually be able to see yourself the Way you are in the eyes of another person that won't make sense until it happens

'Auntie' look like she has a blk grandparent at the most. Love the 2 hosts though.

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Kayne West said Kim Kardashian was the most beautiful women in the world.

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We have to stop allowing other people to define who we are as a person. SEXY K

How about BLS/Black Lives Significance opposed to BLM?

May JEHOVAH GOD Bess you my QUEEN! SEXY K

The Blacker the berry the sweeter the juice Queens! SEXY K ❤

My comebacks are automatically