Race & Reason: A Conversation with Coleman Hughes (Episode

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Sam Harris speaks with Coleman Hughes about race, racism, and social justice. They discuss the ideal of "color blindness," race and crime, Coleman's experience at TED, LatinX, the confusion of the elites, Ibram X. Kendi, affirmative action, class differences, poverty, single-parent families, the death of George Floyd and the trial of Derek Chauvin, mob rule, Candace Owens, Christopher Rufo, guilt by association, John McWhorter, Glenn Loury, reparations for slavery and Jim Crow, immigrant communities, evidence of discrimination, Martin Luther King Jr., and other topics.
Coleman Hughes is a writer, podcast host, and musician. He has written for The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, National Review, Quillette, The Spectator, and the City Journal. Currently, he is a contributing writer at The Free Press and an analyst for CNN. His latest book is "The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America."
Website: colemanhughes.substack.com/
Twitter: @coldxman
February 11, 2024
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@ConorSantry 3 месяца назад

Passive aggressive move by Rory

@joshwyant7474 3 месяца назад

Rory is a pure case of competing loyalties. Otherwise intelligent people who become acquaintances with controversial cultures, in Rory's case, Muslims, have to bend their values and logic to keep an idealistic bridge to these cultures they feel indebted to in some way. This phenomenon illustrates how hard it is for people to separate ideas from identity. We are not our ideas, we are our actions. Ideas are only important when the form the impetus and reason for action.

@BobbyMack 3 месяца назад

If you read Sam's book, The End of Faith, he makes a compelling case that ideas cannot not lead to action, insofar as the ideas are actually believed. The ideas (if they are believed) must cause behavior, or else they are not held sincerely.

@big1boston 3 месяца назад

Cultists.

@Dantianblue 3 месяца назад

"Controversial cultures, in Rorys case, Muslims"? Please explain. This seems an egregiously patronising and biased and pompous remark, sans elucidation.

@joshwyant7474 3 месяца назад

@Mock_Turtle_1805 Have you not listened to Sam's episodes all islamic cultures? Have you not been an observer of the 21st century? Suicide bombing via martyrdom. Anti-alcohol and frivolity. Male chauvinism and oppression of women. Little to no scientific achievement. Corporal punishment. Terrorism abounding. Brutal infighting and slaughter of fellow Muslims because of doctrinal differences. If you can't see the discrepancies between Muslim majority countries and the industrial liberal West, then go away.

@chickenfishhybrid44 2 месяца назад

I think this is likely exactly it.

@dhschneider7945 3 месяца назад

Sam, I have listened to you for years and you are reasonable and honest. There are people who aren't going to like you because you criticize Trump or Islamic Jihadists or wokeness. Those three groups are very often not honest or reasonable. When I would read the comment section after your videos they often don't have any relationship with what you are saying. You have a legacy of thoughtfulness going on for years so you are right to not pay attention to other peoples agendas.

@radscorpion8 3 месяца назад

God I just wish up he would be more open to questions from the more left wing members of his audience, I think he could learn a lot

@tcorourke2007 3 месяца назад

@@radscorpion8Well I wish he steer the car off of the RIGHT side of the cliff, as the view on the way down is more scenic.

@Tired-hm4tw 3 месяца назад

@dhschneider7945 It's always been my opinion that Sam is a very genuine human being. His trouble is that he refuses to pander, therefore everybody hates him for something. I kind of feel like Sam's rational, lets fix it attitude has passed its use by date though. It seems to me that the vast majority of people are not trying to solve the problems, but declare which side they are on for the coming unravelling. 😞 Not Sam's fault of course. We are a broken species.

@Tired-hm4tw 3 месяца назад

@radscorpion The trouble with left wing types, is that they aren't as good at expressing ideas as they are regurgitating dogma. Sam tried several times to bridge the gap between the centre and the left. It was a disaster every time.

@anuragsinha2013 3 месяца назад

Sam Harris is way past his sell by date. Apostate prophet, David wood and Christian prince are also good on the issue. Watch them it's really funny and it's not like the mental Jiu jitsu that Sam Harris likes to pull.

@myka113_ 3 месяца назад

holy shit he actually laughed @ 13:08

@mateuszc70 3 месяца назад

Legendary moment

@sunnyinvladivostok 3 месяца назад

the laugh of exasperation

@emuccino 3 месяца назад

They're driving him crazy 😭

@waedjradi 3 месяца назад

@@emuccino He's intelligent but his own intelligence is driving him insane.

@TMK1450 3 месяца назад

„Fucking hopeless!“ 😔 Not in your control…

@dravenlee4473 3 месяца назад

Anyone that uses "Islamaphobia" is right off the bat not wanting criticism or debate. Should I call them Atheistaphobic because they don't agree with my world view? It's so frustrating hearing that word thrown around like "hate speech". It just shuts down conversation and says there are certain ideas, no matter how abhorrent, are off limits.

@tcorourke2007 3 месяца назад

Since when did Athiesm become a worldview?

@ReasonAboveEverything 3 месяца назад

@@tcorourke2007 Since when did atheists claim atheist phobia?

@dravenlee4473 3 месяца назад

@@tcorourke2007 Since when is Islam? I think your belief and/or lack of belief tend to color your worldview, people, how you interact with people, your laws, rules, etc.

@deborahfreedman333 3 месяца назад

Is a rational fear, based upon an obvious danger, a phobia? Islam-awareness would be a better term.

@tcorourke2007 3 месяца назад

@@dravenlee4473 Are you sincerely asking, "Since when does belief in a set of claims, values and rules constitute a worldview?"

@tanyatulchinsky7471 3 месяца назад

Thank you for what you do!! Please don't give up, no matter what anyone says. Your work is important to many, many people!!

@user-io6eq9gt6w 3 месяца назад

If you've ever seen these two in person, they have nearly the EXACT same external disposition, hand gestures, everything. White Coleman Hughes and Black Sam Harris, love it

@danzwku 3 месяца назад

i think it's because Coleman is such a big fan of Sam that he has adopted his mannerisms, rhythms of speech, hand gestures and all

@ThePaulaon1 3 месяца назад

Is EXACT base upon scientific evidence?

@idealmasters 3 месяца назад

@@ThePaulaon1uncannily similar?

@joeberg3317 3 месяца назад

We'd be hitting levels of housekeeping that shouldn't even be possible...

@tcorourke2007 3 месяца назад

@@danzwku No, he's definitely the black Sam Harris.

@chrisocony 3 месяца назад

I was pretty offended when Rory Stewart, on the Coleman Hughes podcast, said that the Taliban did not attack any Americans in the lead up to the withdrawal so our presence was effective and we should not have withdrawn. The Trump Administration made an agreement with the Taliban that we would leave on a certain date UNLESS they attacked us in the interim and that's the only reason why they weren't attacking us. Extremely disingenuous.

@joeberg3317 3 месяца назад

Agree - it really was a situation where breaking from that immediately would've escalated. And by escalated, I mean head back into the 20-year go-nowhere quagmire we had been involved with for so long. Obama should've said "we won" after bin Laden (I don't care if it makes sense) and gtfo. I think the centrist-y spheres Harris and Hughes hang around in (not falling into far-right crankery, but willing to criticize left wing ideas mainstream orgs don't touch) can be so useful on so many issues, but they can be way too easily persuaded by foreign policy blob types.

@ryccoh 3 месяца назад

Interesting

@psmorgan2542 3 месяца назад

Rory Stewart gave a very political relativistic explanation of the link between jihad, martyrdom, doctrine and theocratic expansion as well.

@toby9999 3 месяца назад

@joeberg3317 Not sure what you're saying, but... Afganistan was a better place for its residents a year before the withdrawal than it is now. So many of the gains squandered, and the biggest losers are the Afgan people.

@HeavyMetalForLife 3 месяца назад

@@joeberg3317If we trust the CDC and the FBI, we should trust the pentagon and foreign policy experts

@OSUCharger 3 месяца назад

Great timing, Harris.

@ChrisBoland 3 месяца назад

Regarding Rory - I think he's decent guy, interesting and very charming, but I think you got a bit of a rosy picture of him on your podcast.

@bertrandrussell894 3 месяца назад

I've seen Rory in conversation with others, other Leftists mainly, and I was troubled when Dam had him on. I think Sams analyse was accurate though. Rory just fell into a trap of overstatement when in the compony of Leftists. Let's hear him out.

@PhiI93 3 месяца назад

He's a Tory, he's not decent.

@tevildo45 3 месяца назад

@bertrandrussell894 You know Rory is a conservative right

@mikegray8776 3 месяца назад

Your point is totally understated. Rory is most certainly a Tory, but - like many Tories - is now anything but conservative. Stewart is so eye-wateringly wealthy and correspondingly self-regarding, that every utterance is curated and selected solely for its benefit to himself and his landed family. He is most certainly NOT a decent guy, and NEVER was.

@NoFeckingNamesLeft 3 месяца назад

@@tevildo45 There is not one Tory MP exhibitng any desire to conserve anything. They're far more radically left-wing than any major left wing party from 30 years ago.

@tefilobraga 3 месяца назад

Regarding your intro on the misrepresentation of your views by Rory Stewart and Konstantin Kisin, the explanation is the following. Some people (including podcasters) may not have a spine (or gonads) of steel, and so they tend to lean, in their conversations with other guests, towards the views of those guests, or what they think they are going to like. Hence, they present you in a less than optimal light when together, for example, with a Muslim that complains of "Islamophobia". Another possibility, since it is difficult to underestimate the solidity of Rory Stewert's spine or gonads (given the environments he lived in) is that your guests, out of politeness (or hypocrisy), pretend to believe or understand your arguments, but they actually have a covert conviction that you do not really believe what you say (to them) you believe. Probably both, in some cases.

@tcorourke2007 3 месяца назад

Konstantin certainly pushed back on Harris during his appearance. And rightly so. You know, the one that "got clipped" by "right wing trolls" and burned his career to cinders.

@gf4670 3 месяца назад

Well Rory is effectively a politician and he still very much has political ambitions. He's also now a member of the media in the 21st Century. And there's so much intersection between both of those now that they're practically the same career. Playing to the crowd is just the way the brain works for most of those people or people in general, really.

@Malt454 3 месяца назад

Yes, for how "objective" and "truth telling" the "alt-media" is supposed to be, many elements have proven themselves to be habitually two-faced because most of it is just staged as friendly "conversations" with little or no journalistic approach or standards to begin with. The goal is just controversy, not clarification, and to generate more clickbait content and "meta discussions" about was actually said in context. For the reputation that some of these people now carry, they're really nothing more than some dipshits with higher production values on a RU-vid channel.

@dandybufo9664 3 месяца назад

@@tcorourke2007 his career seems, fine

@tefilobraga 3 месяца назад

@@gf4670 I was going to add that. Indeed Rory Stewart is a politician, with all that entails. Pandering to the crowd is in that case not a mark of weak character, but rather a duplicitous strategy, inevitable in a democracy. Actually, this does not only apply to professional politicians, as with the web and social media everyone is an amateur politician nowadays. And that is certainly so in the case of podcasters (Sam being an exception), as they want to maximize their views and subscribers...

@Lark572 3 месяца назад

Go Coleman! He’s having a big week out in the public eye

@juanrodriguez7729 3 месяца назад

Is he still doing his podcast?

@PhilipPedro2112 3 месяца назад

15:24 Start Up to that point, all I can say is, Sam is about the most reasonable, knowledgeable and polite person I could hope to have an intelligent conversation with on about any subject. He is a voice of reason. Thank you for putting yourself out there!

@TY9941_ 3 месяца назад

I'm conservative and I agree. Would love to pick his brain about so many things

@realdeal139 3 месяца назад

Haters are going to hate Sam, just keep doing you. You’re the man!

@ryanalexander8212 3 месяца назад

I wonder if Homo sapiens are evolved enough to handle the misinformation landscape that is social media. Science is evolving faster than we are, I just hope it’s not hopeless.

@user-io6eq9gt6w 3 месяца назад

Homo sapiens aren't even evolved to live around strangers, much less EVERY stranger on earth, and that's not to mention the other 10,000 things which technology has produced for which we aren't adapted (after all, we're adapted to a very specific hunter-gatherer situation, which we've been living beyond for the last 10k years or so). But humanity has a special knack for adapting to that which it's not adapted to. Of course, the next thing could always be the one that destroys us (industrial tech > nuclear > computer > internet > Social Media > AI, etc.), but my bet is that the species will figure out and adapt to social media's dangers before too long. The sign that already EVERYONE on earth is aware of how bad it is, is a sign that positive changes are already in motion, in my opinion.

@joshuam3081 3 месяца назад

Also consider the fact that billions of dollars have been spent to do everything possible to hack the human brain.

@Zoomo2697 3 месяца назад

"Man is an exception, whatever else he is. If he is not the image of God, then he is a disease of the dust. If it is not true that a divine being fell, then we can only say that one of the animals went entirely off its head." G. K. Chesterton

@schopengaard9796 3 месяца назад

Isn’t it pretty god damn obvious that we CAN NOT handle disinformation…?

@robk5427 3 месяца назад

I just hope we're evolved enough to defeat those who propose that censorship that only they can be trusted to employ is the solution to the "problem"

@nicolaiby1846 3 месяца назад

Excellent little snippet of what I imagine is a great full conversation.

@michaeljames3912 3 месяца назад

I could see this coming from Rory. At one point during last weeks conversation, when Sam wanted to clarify the reason for his focus on Islam, Rory made a very telling snide remark of "Got something on your mind?" and it was clear by the tone the was insinuating Sam was some kind of Islamophobic bigot. I was a bit surprised to hear that coming from him. Sam had to have caught it too.

@peterfazio9306 3 месяца назад

Agreed. The whole thing feels very slimy.

@dmanson4649 3 месяца назад

Maybe Rory just can’t disassociate the kindness he’s received from individual Muslims from the violence of written Islamic ideology.

@georgekleinfelter7041 3 месяца назад

I noticed that, too. Also, I’ve heard him interviewed twice on podcasts and both times - just based on how he speaks and some of the disingenuous arguments he makes - he didn’t come across as a completely forthright, trustworthy individual.

@Tired-hm4tw 3 месяца назад

@dmanson4649 it seems to be a common error. Sadly.

@CarlosCMTF 3 месяца назад

Those are the worst kind of podcasters. The ones very courteous in front but immediately bash you on your back.

@Pradeep_889 3 месяца назад

I'm from India. I came across your videos while exploring into atheism-related topics. Since then, whenever I seek clarity on any subject, I turn to your videos. Your content encourages critical thinking, so I appreciate the great work you're doing.

@whatsdoin2392 3 месяца назад

What is sad is that if Rory had a disagreement with Sam he should have confronted Sam directly during the interview instead of making nasty comments about Sam on another broadcast. I think Sam makes a mistake in having Rory back on, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice its on me!

@Alex-yv4vr 3 месяца назад

Having someone on the podcast again to discuss where they disagree/more to clarify Sam's actual position so that it can represented properly doesn't seem like a waste of time to me. People are allowed to make mistakes, I don't know if you've listened to Rory on anything else - he seems a genuine person who wouldn't want to mis-represent people. I imagine the conversation will be worthwhile listening too - Sam Harris obviously has a similar thought process here.

@whatsdoin2392 3 месяца назад

@@Alex-yv4vr People who seem "genuine" are the most treacherous. Sam has a blind spot here, he was painted as a bigot by Rory on a separate podcast and he should not further platform Rory who while appearing charming and agreeable, so characterizes Sam behind his back.

@Alex-yv4vr 3 месяца назад

@@whatsdoin2392 unless you know them personally, which you can’t when it comes to podcasts. Everyone either seems genuine, or seems like a liar. I’d rather go off having listened to this guy numerous times, as oppose to some strange opposite rule, whereby I assume everyone that comes across as genuine is dishonest. Otherwise I wouldn’t be able to listen to anyone online - even Sam Harris

@whatsdoin2392 3 месяца назад

@@Alex-yv4vr No strange opposite rule. Always judge people by including in your assessment all aspects of what you know. Rory was indeed sweet, charming and wonderful in his broadcast with Sam, but when I see how he characterized Sam afterwards I fully appreciate that I am dealing with someone who is treacherous. It is scary because Rory is a very charming man.

@Alex-yv4vr 3 месяца назад

@@whatsdoin2392 why not keep an open mind, considering there’s another discussion coming. Then you can make a better informed opinion. Which it seems is what sam Harris is doing

@hester234 3 месяца назад

Great talk. Thanks, guys!

@heidilee658 3 месяца назад

Clips without context is a major tool of both sides.

@Jasnogorodskij 3 месяца назад

13:28 Amen

@jamesryan5034 3 месяца назад

It truly is a hallucination machine well said

@ropro9817 3 месяца назад

Crazy... After seeing Coleman Hughes on Real Time on Friday night, I was literally just thinking that he'd be a great guest on Sam's podcast. 🤠

@fullmatthew 3 месяца назад

Thank you, Sam, for being the ultimate truthteller of our time. Everyone else has seemingly gone insane.

@jeffseidl 3 месяца назад

Great episode, thanks for continuing to provide real conversations for people about topics like this.

@maynardgent6708 3 месяца назад

I listened to coleman a few years ago and its really interesting to see how he's developed personally and professionally in the meantime listening to this podcast. Proof that if you focus on one thing you become a lot more knowledgeable and articulate about a subject. This is an issue with the podcast world as a whole, there are too many podcast hosts who make comment on all sorts of subjects and they're simply not qualified to comment

@js2567 3 месяца назад

I feel like Sam has been one of the only voices that has remained consistent and is clear when a data point has shifted within his paradigm. So it's pretty funny that people misrepresent his opinions so often.

@peterdembowy4459 3 месяца назад

Sam Harris & Coleman Hughes!? Wow! I can’t wait! Possibly two of my favorite people ❤️

@alfonso1455 3 месяца назад

You are no bigot. Thanks for setting us straight. Thanks for being brave in this life.

@stanley5394 3 месяца назад

Can someone provide more info about the Konstantin Kisin-Tom Bilyeu conversation about Sam that Sam is referring to here, e.g. date and time stamp?

@dmr6390 3 месяца назад

Tom Bilyeu posted the clip on his channel a few days before this released. So just go right to his channel and it’s like a 12 minute clip

@SummitBidTech 3 месяца назад

I’d like to hear the clip on Rory’s podcast where he said basically, “Sam won’t let it go” . I can’t find it and wonder if he has edited it out realizing that it was an mis characterization. I kinda hope so.

@user-io6eq9gt6w 3 месяца назад

Guys like Konstantin are basically just a step removed from Dave Rubin in terms of being "more audience capture than man", thus whenever they have to discuss an apparent friend who also happens to be saying something that strikes at the heart of their worldview (and income streams, because unlike Sam their careers depend on shilling), their cognitive dissonance becomes palpable. They have to somehow resist their knee-jerk cult response of "TDS!" and you can see the extent to which it strains their brains. But of course, at bottom the issue is that they themselves are simply too cowardly to NOT be firmly on one side or the other: the demented idiocy of Biden and the amoral narcissism of Trump must NOT be talked about by their respective cults. However, to be bashed by BOTH sides is always an occupational hazard in the pursuit of truth.

@Tamara-qd5dc 3 месяца назад

I am so grateful to those people on the left and on the right who are still talking to each other, respectfully, thoughtfully, listening to each other, debating and disagreeing on certain things, but agreeing on the civility of a public discourse as a foundational value of our society, while what seems to be a majority on both sides resorted to shouting and screaming, without any interest in the opinions or valid arguments of the other side. I am so fed up with those who shout, in order to stay in power or make more money.

@user-yz1ye6pn5q 3 месяца назад

My two favorite modern day intellectuals! Anybody know what happened to Coleman Hughes podcast though? He hasn’t had a new episode in 2 months.

@juanrodriguez7729 3 месяца назад

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he’s just too busy promoting his book at this time

@roxee57 3 месяца назад

I just checked. He’s posted 2 videos which are timed “a month ago”.

@edwardbmurphy6378 3 месяца назад

sam you is the man. I am grateful that you share your "lived experience(s)' 🙂

@dandybufo9664 3 месяца назад

great guest !

@Ryanthebrobdingnagian 3 месяца назад

Lol i am absolutely going to call social media a "hallucination machine" from now on. That's exactly what it is.

@shak535 3 месяца назад

Yes ! I'm such a big Coleman Hughes guy !

@DavidBrown-ts2us 3 месяца назад

Disappointing to hear Rory speak like that, it's a common position for British politicians to hold, and it would seem he's one of them (even though hes left). I will look forward to the follow up.

@kevintunstall6418 3 месяца назад

As my old Mum used to say “You can please some of the people some of the time but you’ll never please all of the people all of the time so stop caring and just please yourself”. Ignore it and keep speaking YOUR truth 🙏

@jakub6495 3 месяца назад

is there a chance for video materials?

@Lizzie333Higginson 3 месяца назад

Two humans that make sense to me.

@BB-cf9gx 3 месяца назад

Thank you. Please keep talking.

@emuccino 3 месяца назад

Good for you, Sam!

@Itsnickcherry 3 месяца назад

“It is fucking hopeless” 😭😂😂

@antitheistvegan 3 месяца назад

Right on, Sam! I too have come to the conclusion that I simply cannot care anymore about what people think of my perspectives. To continue doing so, is to constantly be trying to reason with people who are entirely unreasonable. Far better things to do with one’s time.

@twntwrs 3 месяца назад

Interesting how Mr. Harris suddenly came to that conclusion when he was overrun on every platform by unrelenting pushback to his tone deaf "dead children in Hunter's basement" ode to fascistoid censorship. He then retreated to the safespace of the echo chamber which his podcast has become where he only invites guests who can be relied upon to confirm his biases.

@tekannon7803 3 месяца назад

Sam, Rory was not putting you in a paper cage in saying you were trying in many ways to get him to see your side of events in the Muslim world. You are a very influential person who has sailed the seven seas of religiosity and know the subject inside out of what every organized religion's structural steel views are and Rory probably was a little thin-skinned in thinking that you were trying to bend his perspective to wrap around what you see as the nitty gritty of what is really going on in the Muslim world. What's good is that he (Rory) speaks his mind and it will actually help in a future conversation with him, because he did not skate around what he felt you were trying to do and this will make it easy for you to fry this fish in an open and firey discussion knowing what he said was heard by all and he'll have to defend it.

@Malt454 3 месяца назад

No, the idea that Stewart didn't "skate around" arguments by only raising his objection to them in one venue but not another doesn't wash, as does the idea that he bravely "speaks his mind" when it's now far more in question as to what he really thinks. It's questionable at best, cowardly at worst and unnecessarily muddies the water.

@georgekleinfelter7041 3 месяца назад

Backstabbing move by Rory. Really gross.

@kg356 3 месяца назад

@@georgekleinfelter7041Backstabbing? Were they supposed to be buddies or something?

@georgekleinfelter7041 3 месяца назад

@@kg356 No. I had inaccurately surmised that Rory Stewart just wasn't a snake in the grass. It's not only your friends whom you're supposed to treat with a modicum of decency. But maybe that sort of behavior after a seemingly honest and forthright conversation is what you're used to experiencing all the time. Sort of sounds like it.

@CarlosCMTF 3 месяца назад

@@georgekleinfelter7041 The one of the main criticism I have of Sam: he's been a terrible judge of character with the people he choses to associate with and vouch for.

@gandydancer9710 3 месяца назад

38:14 Contra Hughes, there is no reason to limit non-color blindness to "serious" situations involving violence. For example I have been over the last several months dealing with a woman in the call center at Kaiser Permanente who hangs up on you rather than putting you through to Podiatry if you say you don't have your medical record number. I've never seen her but she has a "black" accent. I don't. I don't think it's at all wrong of me to hypothesize that she may have a "hate whitey" attitude. I shouldn't CONCLUDE that without further evidence, but saying I shouldn't entertain that entirely reasonable hypothesis is to put hobbles on my brain. And I refuse to do that. No, I recognize the similarity of my recognition of reality to the comment by Jesses Jackson. Hughes and I are using slightly different definitions of color-blindness. But the confusion is inherent in the term. It simply shouldn't be used. Find another.

@maynardgent6708 3 месяца назад

As an Englishman I can shed some light on Rory Stewart. He is basically seen as a political and intellectual lightweight who thinks his gap year-style trek across Afghanistan makes him qualified to comment on a whole bunch of issues. The fact he even interviewed humza yusef , who is widely regarded as a total disaster for Scotland, heading up a party that has now been revealed to be a totally corrupt single issue radical leftwing woke party, shows that he prefers more idealistic interviewees than something more challenging like Sam Harris.

@jmc5335 3 месяца назад

Who is this "humza yusef" that is a total disaster for Scotland?

@maynardgent6708 3 месяца назад

@@jmc5335the leader of the Scottish nationalist party, they are radical left wing who's sole aim is to break up the UK.

@jmc5335 3 месяца назад

@@maynardgent6708 I am Scottish and know of no such person or radical left wing nationalist party here

@monkerud2108 3 месяца назад

yeah, the problem is not getting rid of racial bias, it is that people who say "I am color blind" usually say some racist shit afterwards. or at least it is something you can say if you want to defend for example a claim that people from Somalia are stupid, or something like that. the concept of leaving behind race as a category used in policy or thought of as important in the way we think, is a good concept, i think if you press people, most people who would characterize themselves as anti racist, or even against the concept of colorblindness would agree with it. that is because the perception of what is meant, and what some people who say something like that they are color blind mean, is not that but rather a defensive negation of efforts to remove an effective bias in society. which is understandable, but it is also completely backwards. i think most people on either side, that are not actually racist would agree that we should refer less to race in policy and in decision making, but i think most color blind people also want effective biases that work against minorities to go away, whether that is some socio-economic differences, or racism by actors in someones private or public life. i think the disagreement is mostly in method and rhetoric.

@toddharvey7089 3 месяца назад

I think if we substituted the word racism with the word tribalism, it would help lead to better conversations about the issue.

@user-io6eq9gt6w 3 месяца назад

It certainly would, as would using words like classism. The problem is that for those people who have the crusader psychology (wayward, psychologically unwell, socially isolated; need a cause to give their life direction & purpose), a word like 'tribalism' doesn't imply an enemy like the word racism does (except the enemy within us all), and thus is not specific and substantive enough to form a tribe around- the POINT of using words like racism is actually so that people can engage in the joys of external tribal conflict / in-group cohesion, for which humans- like chimps- have been designed. Its just another example of how people actively avoid nuance and accuracy in our culture- because those things provide the dopamine rush that screaming your lungs out in the middle of a protest (albeit one founded on a fiction) can give

@johncarroll772 3 месяца назад

The Rest is History podcasts are terrific

@SolitaryReaper666 3 месяца назад

Nice Roo material

@iainshanky6492 3 месяца назад

aaaaah! you are so agreeable!!

@boldandthebeautifulgimbal2881 3 месяца назад

Dr. Harris, I have faith in you to make sense of things.

@user-oy4fy6yv2e 3 месяца назад

There can be a way to break bias in social media and reduce the power of people with large followers to influence opinion on social media platforms. Similar to comments section, we can add a views (viewpoints or connections or context) section - Where anyone can add any view related to the post and people can like and react to the view just like the post. Context 1/ #keyword combo : specific context to the post in limited words like in twitter Context 2 : Most important part of the context section could be checking the balance b/w different context as a percentage or in a pie chart. This distribution could tell if the discussion is biased or balanced, majorititarian view or nuanced. Multiple inferences could be drawn from the distribution of context, views, sides or connections.

@user-zt6uu5tw9j 3 месяца назад

Something that came up for me listening to the episode is what connections have been or can be made around racism and nationalism generally speaking. And why wasn't the term abolition ever mentioned in the conversation. Great episode tho

@nancynel4785 2 месяца назад

I would so love to become a member, but can not afford it. I am a 74 year old lady with no income except what my sons give me. I am from South Africa and the Rand to Dollar rate is ridiculous.

@bradhexumOSM 3 месяца назад

Thanks for this, Sam. Please take a look at Sheena Mason and her newest book, The Raceless Antiracist. Would love to hear your thoughts on Colorblindness vs Racelessness.

@DropMicrodots 3 месяца назад

Not giving an F what idiots think is highly underrated.

@pocket83squared 3 месяца назад

It's also highly difficult.

@visicircle 3 месяца назад

What would be wonderful is if there were more studies testing the various racial stereotypes believed by the population. Some stereotypes might be shown to be statistically significant, and some would not. At the very least, we would have more data upon which to base an honest conversation. There would be pitfalls of people assuming statistical trends are set in stone. Sociologically speaking, the exact opposite it true. We can and often do put the brakes on harmful social trends. But we have to know what if such trends are real before we can attempt to deal change them.

@youngatheart4880 3 месяца назад

You have my support, Sam. Thank you for all you say and do for the betterment of us all!

@juanrodriguez7729 3 месяца назад

Can’t wait to hear Sam’s next meeting with Rory

@daveanderson4013 3 месяца назад

If I were Sam I wouldn't bother meeting with him again seeing how shady he is.

@rookmeeneeseesurn1087 8 дней назад

NOT BORING AT ALL.... these are things we need to talk about and make people aware... thanks a lot guys love it, keep it up. I learn so much through these conversation great job MR. SAM HARRIS :)

@russellhammond371 3 месяца назад

Glad you're not letting the haters bother you, Sam. Just remember, most of them have neither the courtesy nor the curiosity to listen to a conversation in context before making judgments. It's the Strawman mentality: "I'm right because I've done 5 seconds of research, you're a [insert bad word], and, therefore, I have nothing to learn from you and will discourage others from doing so."

@dezurniprovokator373 3 месяца назад

People can recognize many things, recognizing a pattern is one of those things and that got nothing to do with racism. Period! And Colman you are intelligent young man. Don’t waste your carrier talking about race.

@doug3691 3 месяца назад

Sam, getting others, or indeed everyone, to have the same understanding of things that you do is a fool's errand. As it'd be for anyone. But it sure is tempting (see this comment, for instance), as "evangelizing" seems to be a part of human nature. You can only help (in this area) those that seek assistance (in this area). Excellent conversation once again, sir, thank you.

@oremfrien 3 месяца назад

I believe that Sam doesn't necessarily want everyone to have the same views that he has on everything but to accept the same factual considerations and, therefore have a meaningful discussion of intuitions. What Sam has objected to for years was people misunderstanding his intuitions because they are importing different or contradictory factual considerations. For example, the nuclear weapons case from the "End of Faith" is a famous one. (Sam says that, contrary to the USSR and USA which are both rational, terrestrial actors, a Jihadist state with nuclear weapons would not be deterred by mutually assured destruction.) Detractors argued that since Iran is often perceived as a Jihadist state by some in the right-wing space and since neoconservatives floated invading Libya and Iraq to stop their nuclear weapons programs, that Sam Harris was advocating a preventative invasion of Iran to prevent it from getting nuclear weapons. However, Sam never claimed that Iran was such a state or that these kinds of preventative wars are beneficial/necessary, so he wasn't making that argument and, so, he claims that they are not addressing his intuition (e.g. that deterrence doesn't work with Jihadists) but his factual considerations (e.g. that this is a theoretical question as opposed to a reference to a preventative war against Iran).

@erowan1389 3 месяца назад

I was shocked to hear Rory's statement too. I had heard your podcast and did not hear any bashing. So sad tge misreprrsentarion of Sam happening.

@samdg1234 3 месяца назад

Did you hear the entire podcast or just the ~ < 30 minutes aired on RU-vid?

@sublime8728 3 месяца назад

No discussion on hollywood's and medias influence on race fear. No discussion on male violence against females.

@Tired-hm4tw 3 месяца назад

I just can't take anyone seriously who uses the phrase "Islamophobia" without a sense of irony. There are plenty of rational reasons to worry about Islam. Rory left his spine and his brain in Afghanistan apparently.

@kg356 3 месяца назад

Plenty of rational reasons to be leery of any group, that doesn't mean people can't also have irrational fears about them.

@Tired-hm4tw 3 месяца назад

@@kg356 Islam is pretty obvious in its desired outcomes.

@kg356 3 месяца назад

@@Tired-hm4tw the vast, vast majority of Muslims live peaceful lives like any other person. To think otherwise us irrational fear/hatred. We're talking about 1.8 billion people here.

@ronlittman1896 3 месяца назад

Coleman's amazing! He is so wise beyond his years. I've been saying for years that we simply need to stop talking about people's race (including if they're white). It just does so much more harm than good to the society.

@hartyewh1 3 месяца назад

Happy to hear the relief in Sam's voice as he laughs at the situation of his public representation by others. That sounds like a good place to be at the moment. Elon is beyond lost and I expect him to either fall into irrelevance within a decade or something far worse. Shame about the others who struggle to define Sam by a narrative and yet keep trying.

@richardfraser7024 3 месяца назад

I listened to the original podcast and really enjoyed the conversation with Rory. And I have to admit, it did seem that Sam was trying to get Rory to acknowledge that Islam or Islamism does play at least some role in the mess we see in much of the Middle East and its surroundings. I feel because Rory spent so long living with Muslims, especially villagers during his travels, but also interpreters during the British government role there, he sees "Muslims" first and foremost as ordinary people. Who happen to be Muslim. This wouldnt and doesnt mean Islam doesn't have the seeds of something that COULD be turned into something negative, but the same can be said about any culture. Including American or French, Buddhism or Christianity. Rory didnt want to acknowledge this. Thus he went back to politics or nationalism. And to be fair, he has a good point. I lived in Indonesia which is the second or even largest Muslim country on earth. And yet it doesnt have even 1% of the violence seen in the Middle East.

@jasonevans8914 3 месяца назад

Back yourself Sam your content is amazing

@antoncarmoducchi6057 3 месяца назад

Interesting. I've heard about people being automatically unsubscribed from channels before. re-subscribed.

@maliatski 3 месяца назад

I've got a feeling that Rory was converted to Islam while travelling and might even be radicalized…

@vegass04 3 месяца назад

Glad to hear Sam thinks of Elon as a former friend. It makes me like Sam even more.

@lukefromdenver7609 3 месяца назад

It makes me nervous when Sam laughs. Or shows any joy at all. He must be cracking up.

@tcorourke2007 3 месяца назад

Even the chuckle in the intro sounded forced.

@thoughtricity4296 3 месяца назад

Listening to the part with Elon Musk was actually really funny, even though it shouldn't be, I almost feel bad.

@petermuller6359 3 месяца назад

No, you are not thin-skinned. Of course not. Not even a bit. - What a "housekeeping"!

@100voo 3 месяца назад

I would have to say, i do feel like you were badgering Rory on your angle with Jihad, it felt like you were really pushing for it. And he seemed to have a much more real world idea of it. I am a fan of you both though, just my two cents.

@majorkuntz 3 месяца назад

I’m disappointed that Rory Steward acted all naive and cowed with Hamza Youseff. What a coward. Sorry to say but these stereotypes are largely true.

@DrDress 3 месяца назад

I don't know Coleman and I tried to resist the urge to google him to see his skin color, as I assumed that whole point of the talk was that it didn't matter. I failed and saw that he was in fact black. And he then in the opening laid out that we are in fact not colorblind (not yet anyway) exactly in the way that I was not. I don't know what to make of this in fact, but there you go...

@user-gy1pu3gq3d 3 месяца назад

You think there is a problem because your eyes sent the signal to your brain that Coleman is dark?

@DrDress 3 месяца назад

I said I don't know what to think. But I cannot see that it is a problem, yet it is in priciple a racist act that I wanted to know the color in an audio podcast. His ideas are colorless. I find this interesting and sense some wisdom here I just don't know what at the moment.

@scotchbarrel4429 3 месяца назад

I feel for you Sam. I too employ the same logic, but probably more liberally then you do, although that might change with time.

@Aijan100 3 месяца назад

Sam is Krishnamurti of the West

@EmperorsNewWardrobe 3 месяца назад

Interesting. In what way?

@newidealism3894 3 месяца назад

@@EmperorsNewWardrobedude man discovered krishnamurti. I bet what dude man meant was: ain't nobody got time for believing in bs. (But wait! A detective needs a hunch. And a scientist needs a hypothesis. So we all need to proceed based on BS and explore around.) Sam Harris and K. are both secular, in a sense. Sacredness all around makes us all kind of secular.

@gandydancer9710 3 месяца назад

15:45 @S: Harris: If you can't stand to read a book in pdf you could just print it out. Or have some text-to-speech program like Panopreter read it to you.

@bjkarana 3 месяца назад

I think most podcasters just go with the general leanings of their guests because they could never air a repeat of the first time you and Jordan Peterson spoke on your podcast and were stuck on a disagreement of the definition of "truth". There are a handful out there, you included, who are willing to have those fundamental disagreements, but for the rest of them trying to make a living doing this, I don't see them as any different than CNN or FOX in terms of incentive to focus on simply controversy and conflict over actual substance.

@normkeller6599 3 месяца назад

I am color blind, in the sense that color informs me not at all about someone's character, capacities, or other qualities of a human being.

@paullypaullyes 3 месяца назад

Sam, your vibe is at an all time low man, and I've been a huge fan forever. You seem to have polished your communication even further and everything just feels so empathic and wise yet not by loosing your teeth.

@Jules-Was-a-Christian 3 месяца назад

I'm not Sam, but if I were, I would ignore so many more things.

@David-to8bn 3 месяца назад

Mr. Harris, I'm a Christian, and while I do not subscribe to all your views on religion, I find all of your arguments to be better than convincing and helpful overall. Thank you for shedding light on BS and always seeking out the truth. Also, thank you for not being scared to be proven wrong; although, many times I'm sure you are sound in your judgment.

@dustyfairview9062 3 месяца назад

When sam cusses' an apex has been crossed. I support this

@noneofyoubusiness4895 3 месяца назад

I enjoyed your discussion with David Packman, but I did have misgivings, because he did something similar to the Triggernometry guys. They did a podcast together, where they differed, but seemed to be having quite a reasonable two sided discussion. Then afterwards, he used clips to paint them in a very negative light and almost mock them in places. This seems to be Packman's MO: he makes a polite face in the interview, but then uses (often misuses) people's statements, out of context, against them.

@puffwagon3410 3 месяца назад

Triggernometry anti white

@M.Linoge 3 месяца назад

feeding the algorithm

@lucaswheeler5586 3 месяца назад

As Rory has been a prominent national UK politician (and may contain aspirations to be one again) I don't think it's surprising he publicly hold a position of "No, of course it's not Islam!" A mainstream political figure is yet to win government holding that position in US/UK/Commonwealth nations.

@jmc5335 3 месяца назад

Trump, Johnson and Modi are pretty Islamaphobic.

@TinSulejmanpasic 3 месяца назад

Sam, you are one of the clearest thinkers I know. But I am sorry to have to tell you, you are thin skinned. You should stop reacting to people who by all account have a much lesser ability for analytical thinking and patience to do research before regurgitating criticism. You should be above this. All you can do is argue your points clearly.

@chrisocony 3 месяца назад

No, the irony is that Elon Musk's brain has turned to goo.

@Alex-bl6oi 3 месяца назад

getting no more than four hours of sleep a night and consistent ketamine use will do that to a person.

@glasszeraki9195 3 месяца назад

Your intro is troubling…if one of the clearest speaking, patient, and thoughtful people I’ve ever heard has effectively given up on the idea of it being possible to appeal to everyone’s reason, then what does that say about the future of humanity? Are we doomed to forever misunderstand each other? Are some people simply unreachable? If so, what percentage of the population is that? Ten percent, eighty percent?

@TheDailyGroov 3 месяца назад

I did comment on your Rory video, he is a disingenuous slimy politician. He came to prominence over here during the Brexit wars, he also lied rather alot during that period. He sounds delightful, and he charms people rather too easily and what he actually says slips past sometimes.

@ehcarbles1623 3 месяца назад

Surprised by how close you come to recognizing that the disproportionate involvement of black people in crime is linked to the social injustices they face, which can be addressed through policies. Yet, you consistently fall short of reaching that conclusion... Then Coleman complaining that all of the academic papers are saying why color blindness doesn't work... it's like, if you don't like the current state of science, you go and study it with your own model, you go and study it and experiment and come with a robust explanation on why color blindness is the way to go, don't just come with an inspirational speech from half a century ago.