What I Really Think About Trump and Media Bias (Episode  

I'm starting to get the idea that Sam doesn't like Donald Trump

Being intellectually honest is a lonely endeavor. Count me as a fan of your work.

Notice how he doesn’t mention the podcast’s name (Triggernometry) or the Hosts names. Konstantin and Francis were 100% fair and respectful throughout the podcast. This had nothing to do with anything underhand from the podcasters. This was 100% on Sam himself.

"I can only explain it to you. I can't understand it for you."

Even if trump is more corrupt then Biden still you should let all the available information out and let the people decide who they wanna vote for. Who are media to tell people what they should and shouldn't know.

It still sounds like Sam is arguing that censoring the laptop story was necessary for the greater good. Should it not be up to each and every one of us to decide for ourselves if a story is true or false? Are the common people not to be trusted with information that could damage the current narrative?

I'm genuinely trusting Sams intentions, sometimes I agree with him sometimes I don't but I never got the sense of him being mischievous

I wish Sam was clearer on what he _doesn't_ believe is justified. After listening to him for 45 minutes, I still don't know whether he thinks it's ok for government to decide what is and isn't misinformation, e.g. in the realm of public health or politically sensitive information. Is it ok for big tech to pick a side and influence elections of their own volition? Is it ok for big tech to prevent competition from ever having a chance to materialise (remember Parler?) seeing as how Sam seems to think that competition will solve the problem to big tech having such influence. Is it appropriate for a president to declare significant portions of the populace as fascist? Is it ok for a government to decriminalise shoplifting or turn a blind eye to violent mobs setting shops on fire (summer of love) if they are on the "correct side"? Interesting to me also that Sam considers Trump to be a symptom (I agree) and hates him because of that (I disagree). Shouldn't we fix the underlying issues instead of trying to suppress the symptoms? I also find it mindboggling that we live in a time where the likes of Biden and Trump are the only choice that people have. Unless the democrats own up for their mistakes and start regaining the trust of the people, this will not go away. Don't blame Trump for that.

I think we're putting two things together that should be independent. Let's put trump aside completely for second. What he now have is the FBI refusing to investigate a crime in a timely matter for political reasons, and we have journalists refusing to report on and actively suppressing reporting on that, also for political reasons. This is horrendously unethical, and does nothing but further damage faith in these institutions. And that damaged faith is exactly what got trump elected.

He who fights with monsters should be careful to not become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche

Loved it Sam ! Calm and soothing as always !

Thank you for speaking unabashedly about many subjects. You are intelligent and a thinker, a philosopher. It is only normal that so many do not understand you or choose to be offended by a phrase here or there, at their choice. Intelligence is rare, stupidity widespread.

Sam 'the end justifies the means' Harris

His evidence for how bad Trunp is is the level of hyperbole of his descriptions of Trunp. That alone should convince you.

19:37 he finally gets to the point. NY Post story being censored was "warranted" I.e. "justified" he says he should've said "justifiable" - embarrassing equivocation. He then congratulates himself for still thinking it was a "coin toss" as though being only half in favour of politically biased censorship is a respectable position.

Out of all the people in the world, I never expected Sam Harris to lose his mind over TDS

Hmmm. My overwhelming critique having listened to both the Triggernometry interview- yes, Mr. Harris, the entire thing- and your explanation is this: Pot, meet Kettle. It’s fascinating to me that as you so condescendingly gouge the log from your neighbor’s eye, you do not recognize the aspen in your own which has given you such an incredible blind spot.

“Here’s why I’m right, and you’re wrong…”

Long time fan here. I have two comments. Yes you’ve built your brand on honesty. And I believe you were totally honest when you were speaking to the trigger people. And I believe you were totally honest when you did your explanation in this podcast, trying to clarify. And that’s what we’re all frightened about - we see that you are honestly for censorship. To say this is unAmerican would be the understatement of the century. In the last paragraph of this podcast you say you wish everybody was in the position that you are in, wherein they cannot be canceled by opposing forces. No you don’t. You don’t wish that. You did not wish it for the New York post.

I’ll take “Grifters whose careers are over” for $1200, please, Alex.

Interesting he doesn’t acknowledge the name of the podcast or the hosts at any point.

If Konstantin would have asked Sam about his censoring or ignoring of Bret Weinstein I think he would have broke Sam's brain permanently.

“They muddy the water, to make it seem deep.” - Friedrich Nietzsche Nietzsche was talking about people like you when he wrote this.

Am I guilty of schadenfreude? I take comfort in the the fact that EVEN Sam Harris is contorting himself, jumping through hoops in this boring cultural apocalypse.

The fact that Soviet-style election meddling was a "coin toss" for you is just as disturbing as it would be if you thought it were completely warrented.

I would have loved to have watched Hitchens debate Sam on whether or not censorship is okay.

Spending over 5 minutes suggesting you were taken out of context, right off the bat. Sam, tens of thousands of people watched the entire podcast, beginning to end. It wasn't out of context; moreover, it was reinforcing things you'd *already* said before. The bodies in the basement is an analogy you apparently thought so insightful as to be worth repeating. Oh, it's just rhetoric? Like when Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and still get elected? I'm sure you gave him the benefit of the doubt for bombast there.

Thank you Sam, I appreciate your efforts.

And Joe Biden isn’t as reprehensible as Trump? Seriously?

Backtracking, reverse justification, and circumlocution. Nothing to see here.

regardless of your views, what we absolutely always have to do, is give someone a chance to clarify. I see too many comments of people on social media saying: "it's too late Sam" or "you can't make it all better". This is not being charitable. Someone can always change their mind or clear things up. In fact, it's a good thing when people do that. If we, as humans, do not allow for that, the world would be a very shitty place. Also, we have to acknowledge that people arrive at conclusions from very different moral frameworks. A consequentialist will look at things very differently compared to a deontologist. I've seen the respective ethical views in the comment section as well. Let's be open minded please.

Poor Sam. If only people could understand what you’re saying. Oh…OR…maybe you’re missing it. Noooo, that couldn’t be.

We already know what Sam thinks about Trump. Six years of ranting.. how could we not?

How can you simultaneously be worried about institutional trust while cheer leading them being undermined?

"That's a left wing conspiracy to deny the Presidency to Donald Trump. Absolutely is was." Then you argue with the question asking if you are really content with this "left wing conspiracy" saying it isn't "left wing" nor a "conspiracy". You have to explain what you meant by "Absolutely it was."

I love the lucidity and precision with which you describe and denigrate Trump. It's refreshing. It really is hard to imagine a less virtuous person.

I have the upmost respect for Sam. But I cant agree with him here. All of Trumps wrongs can never be used to negate the actions taken against him. If the answer to Trump is to lie, suppress and conspire to prevent him from being president then democracy is already dead. Trump represented the peoples disillusionment with current politics. Instead of changing, all thats happened is their disillusionment has been verified.

You have become religious without realizing it

Sam can u use images that dont hurt the eyes to look at for the podcast image plzz

Censorship and suppression of facts was "WARRANTED". A very precise word that Sam is trying to walk back. Substituting "justified" or "justifiable" doesn't make it any better. It's clearly anti-democratic.

There’s no missing context, watched the whole interview. You said you think it’s justified to stop Trump from being elected even if the votes would have result him being elected. You said it was a left wing conspiracy, then bring up an irrelevant republican who is really not anything other than a caricature as far as I’m concerned, and insisted it’s both sides doing this because you can point at one or a handful of people on the other side. You said it’s left wing and immediately contradicted yourself. When you say contradictory things and choose to say people take things out of context you ought to realize your context is entirely jumbled.

Thank you for making your stance on censorship clear. Fans can continue listening to you. I will not.

Honest request: Can you do a podcast that further delineates the character of Trump from other political figures? I think most people are critical of you because you start with a premise that Trump is a narcissistic liar, which is true, but then act like similar traits haven’t and aren’t currently being manifested in other politicians (admittedly with more tact). The latter have far more institutional support which is arguably far more dangerous. Examples: Spending trillions doesn’t cause inflation. Inflation is at zero percent. Saying your policies are not increasing energy prices when they clearly are. Regardless of your opinion on this, it is Orwellian to say: Boys can become girls and we should be able to teach that to your children without your consent. Saying that rioters killed police on J6. Calling concerns any concerns about elections “the big lie,” as if the last 4 yrs weren’t about calling Trump an illegitimate president. Ascribing white Supremacy and racism to the motives of those you politically disagree with without substantiation. Lying that black Americans are disproportionately victims of police brutality to violent crime stats incited more to violence than anything Trump said on J6. Calling the other side fascists while you are calling on social media companies to suppress the 1st amendment for you.

There is a lack of consistency in Sam's message here. And I'm disappointed how casually he acknowledges how lying can be useful, well simultaneously saying that the truth is essential for democracy. I understand it had no bearing on his decision to vote for biden, or against trump, but that isn't how democracy works.

"you could walk a thousand miles in any direction and not meet a worse person than Trump" jokes on you, Sam, I live near a prison and one of the inmates is Levi Bellfield. He is definitely worse than Trump.

This level of hatred of an individual is usually reserved for someone that you actually know. 🤷‍♂️

Lol the screen shot is what I picture goes on in Sam's head anytime he goes on his tds rants.

Hey! I just remembered that the fbi got the laptop back in 2019. So the idea that there wasn’t enough time to verify said laptop is irrelevant in my mind

Content: 10% of self-reflection, 20% of moral physiology, 70% of shitting on Trump.

I love how he keeps explaining this as if we don't get it. We understand your point, Sam. We just think it's deranged. And it's incredibly sad that you've so fully disappeared up your own rectum that you can't see it. To use some of your favorite phrases: you are morally confused, and you've lost the plot.

“There’s nothing of real substance to clarify”😮. That’s where you lost me. Ego…. Come on Sam.

@samharris Not a peaceful transition of power? He literally said to his supporters on Jan 6: We're gonna walk down there and make our voices heard but we are going to do it PEACEFULLY! He has all the right in the world to object to the result and demand a recount/further investiagtion. That's well within the rules of a functioning democracy and many officials have done that before him in other elections. Some people have actually WON by doing that.

Lost all respect for Sam. Freedom of speech is central to a democracy for anyone and everyone

Try to find a Trump lie bigger or more damaging (considering blackmail) than Biden saying 'I have never spoken to my son about his business deals.'

Irrespective of what people say about Sam Harriss. I would always be thankful to Sam for the app " Waking Up". It literally saved me from drowning in the madness called the modern society..... The track " Headless way" by Richard Lang was the best thing that i did in my life.......

Big brain. No spine to hold it up.

Sam, I listen to the entire podcast. You were not taken "out of context." You spend an entire ten minutes building up on to that very viral point, as the host tried to move on from the subject that you went back to. Just own your bad viral moment. You said something dumb, its fine. But don't gaslight us telling people WE are the ones that are wrong.

Sam - I've been with you a long time, the first time I saw you was back in 2010 I believe ; I had already been reading everything ever written and listening to every recorded thing ever said by Christopher Hitchens. You began your journey in this social commentary phase of your life riding his coattails. Somewhere along your journey you fell victim to this very mutated version of logic and reason. Regardless of what you think you know about anything, your skepticism has left you some years ago. You have fully turned around into the awakened savior, the truth yeller, the man on the dais. You've lost it Sam, fully lost it. I have no interest in defending Trump, I met the guy for the first time when I was 17 and I knew then I didn't like him. But you have taken dislike of a fairly gross, greedy, vain man and turned it into your own leviathan. What the hell is wrong with you, seriously? Now I can play back episodes/podcasts of you two years ago saying all the scary things about Trump, making claims that fell in line with the narratives of the moment. Many, if not most of those things you swore up and down were deadly sins, have been either totally debunked, or seriously diminished in their scope. Biden is a very dangerous, career political criminal, and in your heart you know it , but you can't say the truth because of the circle you've created around yourself. You joined the religion Sam, and now you're desperately trying to justify your mistake. It's painful to watch as a long time fan and fellow skeptic. We also share another thing in common; we both found God over the last twelve years. Only my god is a forgiving, loving, and patient one, and yours seems to be a vain, defensive, turbid god, without shame even in the face of a glaring error - you turned to self pity and finger pointing. What a shame.

Gore away Sam.. it is why I love you. No cow should be sacred, and the fact that you are unafraid to speak truth, regardless of the consequences, is so very very necessary, especially in our current enviroment. As you correctly stated, there just are not that many people who are willing to do that (unfortunately for us all). We need you... keep your head up and keep doing you. As long as you are speaking, there is at least a chance that truth will prevail. Thank you for having the balls you do and for being willing to put it all out there. You are a good man.

When you're willing to die on the hill of "corpses of children", you really need to find out where you went wrong. Because you went wrong.

As a former fan and supporter but definitely not a hater, I highly suggest you to relax for a while and self-reflect on your morality, reasoning and priorities.

Anytime I listen to Sam I can feel his sincerity, his impartialiality, his love for the truth. These voices are rare nowadays. We should support him, even if we dont agree on every issue🎉🎉🎉 The guy earns much ti much to fall on my knees. Yet I thank him!🎉❤

Here is my biggest problem with what Sam said. Sam said no matter WHAT was found in the lap top ( Even Joe's own possible corruption ) that it wouldn't be worse than Trump. And that is a statement of faith. It's answering before you know all the facts. And Sam is supposed to the the "end of faith" guy.

Your biases are very clear. You seem really quite delusional.

Ben Affleck is now waiting for you with a nice glass of wine in front of the fire, sir.

imagine hating somene so much you will say anything or do anything to ruin them. and now this is him reading from a script.....

PART 1 of my point-by-point response to someone I once respected and admired: 3:28 "he literally says that he's not talking about the neo-nazis and other racists. however in my experience if you tell people who want to think the worst of trump about how misleading the clips from that press conference were they are highly disinclined to believe you" There are dozens, probably hundreds, of other examples of false allegations against Trump. Your willingness to correctly point out fake news in this *one* instance does little to demonstrate that you're clear-eyed and fair-minded about Trump. So I hope this wasn't intended as an olive branch of sorts in that vein, because the evidence of your TDS is overwhelming. 4:48 "many people over in trumpestan are now doing that to me again" If only all the hostility towards you could be whittled down to a few misunderstood words. No, Sam. This is about the *gist* of your overall feeling towards Trump -- your cynical, grossly uncharitable interpretation of the man, your hyperbolic false analogies, your inconsistencies & double standards, and your totally warped sense of priority. More below. 7:51 "for instance i've said on several occasions that i think donald trump is a worse person than osama bin laden... it's not meant to be hyperbolic i can defend every word of that statement" This is so demented on so many levels, but okay, let's hear it. 8:32 "i think osama bin laden was a more or less normal human being psychologically. he was just living in the grip of a dangerous and idiotic worldview... but within the framework of his odious beliefs he demonstrated many virtues. he was a man who certainly seemed to be capable of real self-sacrifice and he was committed to ideals beyond his narrow self-interest he was by all accounts personally quite courageous... i don't claim to know that much about him but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was generally a person of real integrity and generosity and compassion in his dealings with his fellow muslims" Sam, meditate on this for a while. Look at the unbelievable amount of charity you're affording to a terrorist who planned the *deliberate murder* of thousands of innocent civilians. You start by pointing out the man's "courage" and "many virtues", and as though that wasn't complimentary ENOUGH, you figured you'd stretch things further by suggesting that Osama Bin Laden may well have been a very "generous" and "compassionate" person with the people he cares about. Good grief. Now, contrast that with your approach to Trump--a selfish narcissist, but one who's never been convicted of a crime, let alone mass murder. Given the way you explained it, Bin Laden is effectively a victim of his environment--a guy who got "gripped" by a crappy worldview. But with Trump, oh no. No attempt to rationalize his behavior because of his environment, his upbringing, or the "grip" of his dad's teachings. Trump is just inherently deplorable somehow and therefore WORSE than the terrorist. No consideration of the courage it took for Trump to abandon his cushy billionaire lifestyle to enter a political hellscape that would turn his life upside down. No consideration that Trump may have taken a massive personal risk because he actually wanted to HELP his country (and thereby himself). Nope. Inconceivable. Trump has zero redeeming qualities to speak of, while the *TERRORIST* is the "normal" one at heart who's "courageous" with "many virtues." Unreal. Think about the contorted mental gymnastics you're doing to rationalize that a terrorist whose views led to the *mass murder of innocent civilians* is somehow a BETTER, more "virtuous", and "less reprehensible" person than a "selfish narcissist man-child" whose views _never_ deliberately led to a murderous atrocity or any crime at all. This grotesquely tortured logic is the epitome of Trump Derangement Syndrome. 9:30 "trump is without question one of the least honest and most malignantly selfish human beings i have ever come across" As selfish as a terrorist who deliberately orchestrated the mass murder of thousands of innocent civilians? If you can wash away that selfishness on account of his religion and upbringing, why can't that reductionist kind of logic absolve Trump, too? 10:10 "he is a child in a man's body" And to you, being a child in a man's body is, in some respect, WORSE here than someone with the impulses of a violent terrorist? It's astonishing how you're willing to compartmentalize the elements of Bin Laden to find the virtues and potential goodness in him, but you can't muster a single positive or potentially positive thing to say about Trump. 10:16 "he lies as freely as he breathes and just as compulsively" Not all lies are created equal. Most of Trump's lies are relatively inconsequential. Even if you focus on his fraud claims ("lies") that contributed to the J6 riot, it doesn't even remotely hold a candle to Bush's lies about WMDs in Iraq. The actions predicated on *that* lie led to the death and suffering of hundreds of thousands of people, kickstarted a global jihadi movement, and cost this country trillions of dollars. And yet I don't see you expressing the same kind of contempt for Bush as you do with Trump. But hey, I'm sure you have some contorted excuse for believing that Trump's lies are somehow _worse_ than Bush's. 10:29 "unlike bin laden it is patently obvious that trump isn't psychologically normal he really is missing something" It is patently obvious to any clear-thinking, level-headed person that NONE of the personality disorders exhibited by Trump are in any way comparable to the psychological state of a MASS MURDERING TERRORIST like Bin Laden. The fact that you dispute that speaks more about YOUR abnormal psychology than Trump's. 10:50 "you could probably walk a thousand miles in any direction and not meet a less admirable human" jfc. Do you have any idea how many murderers, rapists, and violent criminals there are within a thousand miles of you? And somehow Trump is not more admirable than any of them? Will this be another example of you being "misunderstood" and "taken out of context"? This is demented beyond belief, Sam. 12:01 "i hate what he has done to our politics" You literally said you agree with many (most?) of his politics. Your main problem with him is his character, not his politics. 12:15 "he has done more than anyone to produce that hysteria" Was it Trump who produced that hysteria, or was it the demented, over-the-top reaction by liberals that produced it with their incessant propaganda and faux outrage -- all on a loop, 24/7, across every liberal "news" outlet in the country? TDS is a very real phenomenon, and the liberal media has produced a mass psychosis of it. 12:20 "if you want to see how crazy the left can get just elect trump for a second term in 2024" Only Trump elicits that craziness, eh? Did you find the Left to be cool and collected with Kavanaugh, Rittenhouse, Sandmann, DeSantis, Cruz, et al? Social media, and the mob mentality it produced, became a thing while Obama and the Left were in power. They went crazy when they *lost* that power. Trump just happened to be the first to take it from them in this modern era. I'd fully expect a similar kind of insanity to ensue if they lose it again to *anyone* , not just Trump. 12:56 "what i have to say about trump i wouldn't say about any other republican" Yes, and the fact that you were never as critical of Republicans like Bush or the Cheneys shows how completely misaligned your priorities are. 14:06 "not only don't i denigrate many of their political concerns, i share them" You listed a litany of highly consequential policy positions you agree with Trump on -- things that were part of his agenda and that he actively fought for -- and yet you dwell on relatively inconsequential minutia regarding his character. Those concerns you share with Trump and many Republicans are actively destroying this country and the entire West as we speak. If you were more empathetic, with your priorities in order, you'd focus more on THAT and less on Trump's unpalatable character. War, the border, law & order, inflation, gas prices, etc., may not be issues that affect a relatively insulated multimillionaire like you, but they _strongly_ affect many millions of ordinary citizens who aren't so privileged. 14:18 "my real opposition to trump beyond all the flaws of his character... the thing that makes him truly irredeemable... is that as a sitting president of the united states he would not commit to a peaceful transfer of power" I'm not quick to call someone a liar, but this is a *blatant* lie, Sam. Almost all of your most derogatory comments about Trump *predated* the 2020 election -- that includes the comment about him being more reprehensible than Bin Laden and less desirable than a person picked at random from a dartboard. Your opposition to Trump would've been substantively identical if he had never disputed the outcome of the election. Don't use this as an excuse to rationalize your TDS. And Trump *did* commit to the peaceful transfer of power. He never called for violence, quite the opposite. And the process he was embarking on was a LEGAL one -- a shady & dubious strategy, perhaps, but definitely one with an element of legal precedent that is arguably allowed by the Constitution. If Pence had not certified, the process would've moved to the House and the Supreme Court to settle the legal ambiguity. Disputing election results is not unprecedented. Stacey Abrams never conceded in her Georgia gubernatorial race. Hillary Clinton, to this day, claims Trump was never a legitimate POTUS. Assembling the J6 rally may have been irresponsible, but it certainly wasn't the kind of evil, malicious deal-breaker you're suggesting it was. This is just a naked attempt to rationalize your longstanding, over-the-top contempt for Trump.

I actually understood what you were trying to say during that fateful podcast, yet at the same time, I was a bit surprised at how sloppily you were expressing yourself compared to your usual articulate precision. So, I’m glad to have happened upon this explanatory podcast. It just goes to show that even the best of us can be slightly off on a particular day and misspeak just enough to cause confusion. Overall, I very much appreciate the quality of your content as well as the beautiful precision by which you’re able to express your point of view. Given the general fatuousness of much of the discourse in mass media, your voice is truly needed! Best wishes!

I love the sound/delivery of Sam's voice ! content. cadence. nuance. all fantastic🎉

What's wrong with admitting you were wrong? True intellectuals understand that they are not infallible. Just admit you were wrong. You'd gain respect. This doubling down and digging in is just making it worse.

Unfortunately many people on each side don’t really & truly think before responding. They are actually eager to take things out of context. It’s always the people farthest to each end of the spectrum that make all of the people in the middle miserable.

If it means anything, I am center-left and love your content even if I don't always agree. I like honest, rationally framed ideas with supporting facts above all. Unfortunately, rationality is a rare commodity in 2022 where opinions are treated as fact and research is 'surfing the web'. I remember in the 90's a well-regarded technologist opined the threat of the internet was "it will create an endless forest of information mediocrity, where the voices of a small number of real experts would be crowded out by masses of self-appointed gurus." Man alive was he being generous in that assessment.

THIS should be compulsory listening for every voter in the US ... whether Right or Left or Independent.

He didn’t ask the Russians to hack the emails, he said “if you have it, i would love to see them”

No Sam, you still don’t get why people were upset with you. Not because you misspoke, it’s because you said burying the Hunter laptop story was ever conceivably justifiable in any way. It is not justifiable. Full stop.

You are one of the few voices that continues to give me hope for our country. I’m your audience and I love how you think…. It’s logical while remaking empathetic. Never stop

I wonder if Sam thinks using guns to force phone companies to not censor people is also wrong?

It don't sound like a apology to 71 million voters but he can't blame Trump for saying what he did.

Sam is super worried about one particular politician being a liar. That is some hilarious shit.

You’re so caught up on T that all other logic diminishes in your support of your own position.

I think it's a great point about these social media companies being able to decide how they moderate themselves, I truly hadn't thought about it like that. Like wikipedia's mission being to have objectively true information, to achieve that it needs to be quite heavily moderated. To paraphrase, without moderation it would be like listening to white noise. Also, good point that we don't necessarily want the government involved in this moderation. Although, I do wish those companies were a bit more straightforward about their biases. For example with Twitter (before Elon Musk's acquisition) they didn't even seem to admit the bias; it was all about following hate speech laws and whatnot.

Sam has DTS

In this case, Sam ignores lots of facts that don't support his view. Goodbye reputation.

I wonder if Sam feels the same way about Hitler as he does about Osama bin Laden.

I’m not a fan of Trump at all. But every single vocal Trump hater I’ve encountered has been beyond insufferable. I’m not as autistic as most others here, so I’m not including Sam here. Sam’s opinions on democracy and media censorship is a bit troubling, though.

In American government or in corporations you don't have to walk far to find the abhorrent person.

You already said what you thought. Don’t be a wimp and walk it back.

we already know what you think. don’t back track. stand by your convictions. you believe in elitism. you believe leaders should do whatever it takes to “make the world a better place” so long as they have your values. you’ve said it before. you’ll say it again.

The fact that you have to endlessly 'clarify' and 'correct' others understanding of your position is actually an indictment of the poverty of your reasoning. Hitchens, you are NOT.

In 1988, Trump asked Bush senior to pick him as VP. Bush told him to take a hike. RIP Mr. President for quaranteening his ambition for 28 years.

Sometimes I feel like I'm standing in the middle of a void screaming "Where are all the sane people?". Because everyone seems to be travelling ONLY left or ONLY right. There are some absolute idiots on the far left and right and still people seems to think that's a good direction to be heading? It's like a great divide getting wider every day. Please come back to the sane middle people! 🙄

The impulse to clarify was probably understandable. The decision to double down and make comparisons to OBL etc, however, mystifies me. Is this further detailing of his persistent and acute TDS supposed to help us forgive his moral relativism?

Sam how do you think we're doing better today than we were doing under President Trump? I can't think of one thing.

Every specific example of what you have done to alienate potential tribesmen, resonates within me as a like-minded person. I don’t think I am the only one. You are not alone Sam Harris, but because most like-minded people are unknown & have no platform, we aren’t openly visible. If your name were on the ballot, I would not hesitate. I’m certain many other people feel similarly.

Sam we all heard the mess on Trigonometry podcast. That was quite embarrassing. They weren't out of context. You either believed what you said or misspoke but the thing you did that was worse was doubling down after you were pushed. You even tried to break it down what you meant and it didn't get better.

Sam I can't believe you are building a case AGAINST having all available information because you've decided (rather religiously, I might add) that no new evidence could possibly exist that would change your view. In your own words, "if we do not allow new evidence to influence our perspective, when the stakes are high all that's left to appeal to is force."

Thank you Sam, your level of clarity and integrity helps me enter a very peaceful and powerful space (flow?). It made me think of an extra dimension for politics that I don’t usually hear in discussions and that I believe you use implicitly: toxic vs healthy. A 2x2 matrix that also uses this polarity would look something like this (examples in each category are mine) Toxic left: Woke, incentives to mediocrity Toxic right: White supremacy, incentives to oppression Healthy Left: Equal Opportunity, evolution Healthy Right: Meritocracy, tradition If something like this is true, then it might be true also that, as a (left vs right) centrist, you are relatively lonely, but as a supporter of Healthy expressions of human behavior, you have a lot of support from both the healthy left and the healthy right. Actually, I think that those who practice the healthy aspects of the right are very open to the healthy aspects of the left and vice versa. The war is not here, the war is at the toxic level tribes. Maybe?

Whether warranted, justifiable, or coin-toss. It is truly hypocritical, a lie of omission, a big unjustifiable lie.

26:45 The fact that I am appalled by your support of censorship does not make me a "defender of Trump", hysterical or otherwise. Your collapse into tribalism is real...

how do i get out of this and not admit my intellectual dishonesty.