Rachel Dolezal Exclusive Extended Interview | Melissa Harris-Perry | MSNBC 

Joseph Mays I think she lied about that story with the crayons. I believe her parents when they said it started when they adopted their children; and by then she was in her teens.

She did lie about the crayons. Her parents said she never did that. Her adopted brother said it was a lie too.

Joseph Mays Dolezal is just a crazy person. The news shouldn't even be giving her any kind of media attention.

Joseph Mays She actually grew up in Montana, so even more lily-white than that.

Joseph Mays well, she grew up with crazy religious parents...that is pretty traumatic. does it mean she has experienced blackness? what does that even mean? im so fuckn tired of black ppl playing the victim. its not a war on blacks, it is a war on middle/lower class ppl. what most blacks call racism is really just bigotry. it doesnt really matter though, the only group black ppl can blame for keeping them down is black ppl themselves. too much effort went into explaining baltimore, that event alone created a significant number of racists, because they dont like "black people" burnign their business down and then justifying it, so this group is creating their own obstacles to hurdle. what is really funny is how there was little opposition to her position until her race changes, now she is not? that is racist....heheheheeh!

She's good at dodging/deflecting/spinning. She's not upfront. I foresee a future in politics.

Nicole Lannertone just about everything...what did she answer for you?

***** she dodged every question so for me she answered nothing. Actually she sounded kind of stupid and kept back tracking

***** yeah... I think you are missing many pieces of the story. Your defending someone who fabricated many things about her past and even her present. Hey I know all the stars of all the players in the NY yankees does that make me a major league baseball player? I think you are grabbing at straws here...shes a BIG LIAR forget her studies...and paintings alike. Just because you study a culture like a creep and do your very best to look and assume an identity doesn't make it yours. If it was about helping people she wouldn't lie and alienate people.

***** Black people should force her to use segregated bathrooms if she really wants to be black. She sounds more like a stupid valley girl. LOL

👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾. She's lying and is not well. And she wrote a book!!!! Toilet paper!!! 💩💩💩

I’m White and I agree with you. She is a vile human being. She makes a mockery of the harsh reality that is being black in this country. Her demeanor is nauseating and ridiculous.

Or born black

@WhatJoshHasToSay ohhh...you didn't know every single black person is shot by police? They are all still slaves? These people said "who would want to be black?" Lmfao...LeBron James? Michael Jackson? Denzel Washington?

@WhatJoshHasToSay for real...some serious black privilege.

Crazy...

It seems like her dissociation with her family might be rooted in problems not related to this issue. Otherwise, I don't think she would be so reluctant to address her feelings toward them.

Travis Sherwood I dont think she disowned them because she identifies with another race. I think this is a very troubled family, that had problems way before this.

Travis Sherwood SHE LOOKS LIKE SIDESHOW BOB!

Travis Sherwood Which is usually a black thing! "Imitation of Life" Lana Turner

Jennifer Joy She teaches black feminism. You don't need to be coherent to teach that ridiculous subject.

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sjc04d y

She’s more of a fake than iggy

she a attention freak

sjc04d Not quite. She brought up Iggy Azalea as an example of cultural appropriation, and does not put herself in that category. She’s delusional.

sjc04d, I genuinely cannot understand how she can't comprehend that fact. She may admire it. She may wish to emulate it. But that's not the same thing as living something.

Dr Kevorkian I’m white...

@@User_32 Accroding to most of white people I came cross, they all have one thing in common, which is having all sorts of skin problems. Dude, white people get red and purple when they get cold or when they go under sun's heat. I am not generalizing but again, I said this, what made you think black skinned folks got worst skin condition ?

mowliid adan NO she does NOT look 65 puleeasee 🙄 stop hating

She doesn't look 65, but her skin does not look healthy or good. Kind of a Trumpy orange...

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flavorsofwisdom yes, I have never seen this woman challenged and made to feel that she is A) a liar. B) ridiculous C) actually a white sick woman who needs attention.

she loves dat spotlight !!!

I feel so sorry for here Children & the father that was clearly lied to

Probably because she’s a Liberal. They tend to get passes when they lie or break their own rules that they make up.

Amen Andrea!

NO SHE'S NOT...HALF THE WORLD OR SOCIIETY IS BEATING HER DOWN WITH UNJUSTICNESS AND YOU ALL ARE SO WICKED YOU CAN'T SEE HER PAIN....LEAVE HER ALONE!!! I HATE YOU PHONY BEHIND PEOPLE...WHO DO YOU ALL THINK YOU ARE? YOUR WICKED PEOPLE AND GOD DON'T LIKE UGLINESS...IF THIS WOMEN IS DOING SOMEHTING WRONG...THEN LET GOD DEAL WITH HER...YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE COMPASSION ON HER......OH YOU WICKED NATION!!!

Didn't she get jobs and scholarships because people perceived her as a black woman ? Sounds like she took advantage of the system

How on earth did the NCAAP hire her as chapter president?

In an age of transgender, A-Sexual celebration..... Men who feel they were born women, or women who feel they were are actually male internally.... If their "reality " is accepted or rather acceptable as a type of truth... Then why can't or rather why isn't it a possibility that she connects with the original ancestors.... Who are Black?

Because some mixed people do look passably White (one of the core founding issues of the NAACP), as well as sound passably White, as a result of taking after their White parents. My mom is mixed. She married my dad, who is from the West Indies, resulting in me looking Black. Now, her brother, who is also mixed, married White women. All of his kids look White. So, it happens.

@@georgewilliams7227 the original ancestors?

alex smith i mean....not even creole....nothing. Attention getter.

jomamatan just like a man can put on lipstick, high heels and a dress, cut off his private parts etc but will NEVER be a woman; it is simply a lie.

i find it puzzling how she is being humoured and given a platform for her to convince herself and the public of her lie. she seriously needs therapy not exposure.

There is no race except the human race.

Yes she talks like a politician when they go around in circles with their words salad and don't say anything

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In a prison mental health unit

This isn't really any different than someone with body dysmorphic disorder. It's been studied a lot. Unfortunately for her, her particular issue comes with a very sensitive topic- race.

i think they are

They are studied. It's called personality disorders.

Christal Cotton Lol Its like if My Daughter just Started saying She is a Illegal Immigrant who is Cuban when She is a White 15 Year Old Girl .

You mean getting 'black' at your parents...

I believe your right, in part. She drew herself with dark skin and curley braids at 4 yrs old...wonder how they took that?

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ARE YOU WHITE OR BLACK YOURSELF BECAUSE HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF SHE'S PRIVILEGED WHICH YOU'VE NEVER LIVED IN HER SHOES...SHUT THE #$*& UP!!! YOU ARE A WICKED AND HIPPOCRIT NATION!!! GOD IS NOT PLEASED WITH YOU ALL BEATING UP ON THIS POOR WOMEN....LEAVE HER ALONE!!!

But what irritated is that she got jobs and scholarships because people thought she was black ... right ? Why isn't she in trouble for that

This woman is very mentally confused.

Tona Ballaro Honestly, this is how a lot of feminists/ racists create support for their cause. It's just that this woman got caught doing it.

Oh wow are you kidding ? ... she sent herself hate mail ?

@@gardensofthegods yes she fabricated “racial” hate crimes such as sending herself a noose and threatening mails that were not actually stamped by the post office (so they were simply placed in her mailbox). A reporter exposed her about that in an interview and she fell apart. At the end of the interview her whole story fell apart when she was complaining to the police about racist hate crimes and then the reporter asked her if she’s white and she runs out of the interview. 😂

Jennifer G, good questions but such bad follow through. Waste of time ultimately like you said.

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Wow! Smh

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Not one

But why isn't she in trouble for the scholarships and jobs she got because people perceived her as black . Count your blessings that she's not your mom , your spouse or your daughter ... but you she tries this crap with them also

*Because Rachel is NOT a Black woman.* In Bruce Jenner's case there is a Decades-long Agenda, Community & Organization for Gays, Lesbians, Transgender, etc. that feels inclusion will reduce their suicide & crimes against them; and have children who Transition so they get offended & hurt. It's a bit different.

Because transgenderism is a political agenda.

gaberod i mean i dont think so....other than fraud ive commited and have to go to court

livingsouljourney That would be Caitlin Jenner.

Are people getting angry at her because she took theor identity from them ? “Rachel, give it back, ...Rachel! “ Seriously, people who get upset over this need mental health treatment.

I don't doubt she truly identifies the way she does. I also know that even though she refuses to acknowledge it, she knows she was intentionally being misleading.

@@justthatgirl-ct4jo so then what do you think she is doing here and what do you think is going on in her mind because I can't really figure out .

@@gardensofthegods my personal opinion is she feels this way because of her brothers and sisters and all the attention they got growing up. I think it had some kind of impact on her psychologically, so much so that she started to hate herself and wanted to identify instead as being just like them. She loved them and wanted to be them. She just kind of slowly built this false life for herself. She knows very well that she was lying to people though, but I don't doubt she actually identifies the way she does. I really do think this is rooted in her childhood.

@@justthatgirl-ct4jo yes I was wondering if it had something to do with her parents adopting black children and probably lavishing all the attention on them .

SHE'S NOT MESSED UP ....SHE KNOWS WERE SHE COMES FROM...SHE JUST DOESN'T IDENTIFY WITH BEING WHITE...AND SHE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE...SO LEAVE HER ALONE!!! PLUS ARE YOU SAYING THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE BLACK OR YOUR ALSO AGAINST HER...EITHER WAY, IS TOTALLY WRONG...SO YOUR JUST A GUILTY AS EVERYONE ELSE IF YOU ARE!!!

That’s BS! Melissa failed to ask the hard questions. This is not a case of Passing and Transracialism. This is about unethical and unlawful behavior. Had Rachel been a Trans woman but never told anyone she was Trans, spewed lies about being born a biological woman, openly discussed naturally developing breasts at puberty and experiencing menstruation by the age of 13 yrs old everyone would be in an uproar. If the Trans woman that never said she was Trans took positions designed specifically for disadvantaged minorities like women then the world would have exploded. Melissa failed miserably.

Cassie Telusma I have no problem with her saying she's black, because identity is not only external, it is an internal thing and shaped by what you've experienced or seen others experience. I do have a problem with her lying though, but in the spirit of humanity, I am willing to forgive her. And yes, I agree with you that she has done more for black people than many black people themselves have done (including black stars with billions of dollars)!!! The thing is too, we keep killing our own brothers and sisters with guns and illegal drugs, but we're hating on a white woman who is dedicated to help black people up? Well, I'll take that any day than a black woman choosing not to help a sister up in life because she wants to be among the few successful black women in the world!

Charmaine Daisley I agree with the fact we can accept her into the black community. And it is perfectly okay for her identify as a black person. But she isn't a black person. She could just switch back to being a white person if she truly felt like it. I, as a black woman, do not have that possibility. I agree it was also wrong for her to lie to everyone about her race. I am also willing to forgive her but she has to first admit she was wrong.

Cassie Telusma, I think we can agree to disagree on some points in this discussion, but the overwhelming sentiment is that people should have the choice to identify as who they want. Why are we being the race police while our black sisters don blonde wigs, blue contact lenses and use skin lightening creams, all in an effort to get jobs and positions that are socially more accessible to mostly white women or light-skinned black women? These black women are passing as white!! If more black women owned their blackness by wearing their natural hair, at least, then MAYBE they could cry foul. Until then, we have to understand why people on both sides do what they do.

Latonya Wilson When I say she has done a lot more for black people, I meant that she has done more for black people than some black people have done for their own community. Not all black people do nothing for their own community but there are a lot who haven't done anything at all. Now to say she only has done things to advance her self proclaimed blackness I feel is incorrect. She may have genuinely trying to change things for the better for the black race. You probably don't know her just as I don't know her so neither one of us can say exactly what her motives were. But regardless of her motives, she did do good for the black community to which I commend her for.

Cassie Telusma Well said. To be fair, though, there are many black people who can (and do) live as whites. There are many black people who don't look black (especially to non-black folks). Yet, they are still black.

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Zenobia Russell what is the black experience? There are black people all over the world! Africa, Jamaica, the West Indies, America, etc the black experience varies among all these different places.

Who cares I'm black but I don't have a problem with what she did if she did anything.

couldn't she have done as much good as a white woman???? for the blacks.... I don't git it!!!! wigger!!!

Me too

she seems more like a groupie or a fan

Floydthefuckbag LOL, oh _Floyd_, you're such a _fuckbag_. +1

***** No U

Jaren C it’s worse than iggy

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I agree with you and I don't understand her

The WHY is more important- acting like a victim, or a marginalized group gets you attention or sympathy in some way. A lot of whites are jealous of blacks because they get attention for their struggle when they are victimized, so many whites want that kind of attention and sympathy for themselves, to experience it. They don’t understand what true love is- they think sympathy and playing victim will get them love, but it is far far away from that. True love is empowered and empowering, not disempowered and actively seeking a victim identity

Liberals have no answer for that 😂

SkitterNSnicklez Well that transgender issue is more clear cut because Bruce Jenner has never denied being a man that thinks like a woman. Rachel thinks black but denies her race. She should say I'm white but feel black instead of this nonsense.

ExclusiveLM Isn't by saying that skin color determines a persons identity, we're assuming that identity is dictated by race? I think if we really want to abolish racism, a persons race shouldn't be taken into account when referring to a persons cultural background. I agree, she's not biologically "black", but I don't think that should be the point. She grew up culturally identifying with a group of people. "Black" has become the word used to refer to a culture as well as a race. I don't think she means it in the way that she's black as in her race.

SkitterNSnicklez she feels black so let her be black..why should we label people anyways...she should be able to feel whom ever she wants.

SkitterNSnicklez A few points: 1.) This has nothing to do with "transgenderism," and there are, in fact, no parallels between Dolezal's case and transgender issues. There are actual, substantive, and _physical_ differences between men and women. People who are transgender aren't transgender because they all of a sudden "feel like identifying as a member of the opposite gender," it's because, due to some sort of physical issue, such as nonstandard uterine environments or genetic abnormalities causing the person to essentially be born in a male body but with a female brain and hormones (or vice versa), or even just hormone issues, etc., they actually *are* females born with male bodies and vice versa, and the science has born this out. ...which leads me to my second point. 2.) The above is simply not true about race. Race is merely a social construct. There is literally no difference between the brain of a black person and the brain of a white person. After all, throughout history, race was determined by one's skin color, not by one's mental abilities. To attempt to reason that Dolezal's case is anything even _remotely_ similar to that of a transgender person's is to say that there actually IS a difference between the races that lies deeper than skin color and, due to some sort of genetic/environmental abnormality, Dolezal was somehow "born with a black brain" even though she has a white body due to "white genetics." I hope it doesn't need to be (further) pointed out just how absurd this is. 3.) The other GLARING difference between Dolezal's case and those of transgender people and that transgender people aren't _lying_ -- they are actually being more open and telling the _truth_ about themselves -- whereas Dolezal is, was, has, and continues to LIE in pursuit of this issue. A transgender person isn't lying by saying that they are men born with women's bodies and vice versa, but when Dolezal attempted to pass as black and hide her true origins, she actually WAS hiding her race. 4.) Dolezal *_CHOSE_* to identify, disguise herself, and pass as black. For her, this was a CHOICE. For _Actual_ black people, it is not. Mrs. Dolezal could've -- at ANY point -- stopped getting her perms and tans, and started acting and dressing as her actual self again. Most _actual_ blacks do not have this escape route. Now, while it _could_ be argued that it was actually kind of admirable of her to shed her "white privilege" and not make use of this escape route available to her, she did not have to constantly and consistently lie to attain her goals (except for, you know, when she get herself admitted in to Howard University on a scholarship meant specifically for actual black people -- she probably actually DID have to lie [as she had] for that one), and these lies not only caused damage to black people and their communities, but she effectively deprived them of a true ally, a statement more powerful than just another black person standing up for their rights.

macgeek2004 I understand where you're coming from, but while there may be scientific evidence to support transgenderism, there are also a huge amount of transgendered people who actually are the gender they were assigned to at birth, but just want to identify as the opposite. A born normal healthy male, who wants to identify as a woman for example. Honestly I don't think it should matter either way, I don't care how people want to identify. It's none of my business to tell them what to do and how to act if they're not harming anyone. I was referring to that type of transgendered person. I know there are huge differences between Mrs. Dolezal and transgendered people who were actually born the wrong gender. It's my fault for generalizing. I actually went through a period where I was struggling with my gender identity so I'm just trying to relate in the way I know how to. Also, I'd like to note that there's a lot more to transgenderism than just binary genders. Maybe you misunderstood me, but I was trying to say what you said yourself, that there's no difference between races except skin color. I feel bad that I must have done such a poor job of making that clear.

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***** transracial is something she made out of thin air. We do not support her.

Sarah Omen IS THERE AN ELEMENT OF INSANITY AND HYPOCRISY HERE? Why is Rachel Dolezal's identifying as a Black questioned and challenged because of her genes and DNA, but Bruce Jenner's identifying as a female not being questioned and challenged on the same basis?

Transgenders were born transgender, its all to do with the chromosomes in the egg and the sperm when being conceived. She on the other hand has created this excuse which I am deeply offended by. She is abusing white privileges (as much as I don't believe in them they do exist) and may I point out that about 100 years ago black people would be put into prison or be killed if they did what she did, changing her race. Transgender has been proven by science, transracial is a modified excuse of this.

***** I agree! I love how the internet has come together and acknowledged this problem!

Where's your proof? For example, did you see it in an article or something?

She claims to be black, but spent a good portion of adulthood scamming black people. Howard University, NAACP, the BLM movement, a full scholarship...she cannot answer a single question with a direct answer. But she's human, so you feel for her??

Briana Griffin I am biracial as well, but have never been followed around a store, never been treated different. Does that mean I’m any less black than you? I can’t identify with the “black experience” at all.

@@user-mw5yp2fv8s You’ll experience it one day. trust me. Maybe not the exact thing, but it’ll happen. If you walked into a conservative area, you would definitely experience it

@@lysmith5280 I’ve been in the most racist areas in the country and haven’t experienced it. Could be because I’m 6’1, modelesque wavy hair and European-like features (pointy nose, etc) however I’ve spoken to many black conservatives who look very black and they’ve barely experienced it.

@@user-mw5yp2fv8s I’m not trying to deny anyone’s upbringing or experiences, but the people who are naturally darker have definitely experienced racism. But it’s likely been in different ways. The reason I say this is because is we’ve had racist political leaders, so it’s highly unlikely for a person of color who is naturally darker to never experience any sort of discrimination. Discrimination comes in many forms. And after Trump was in office, police brutality against black people became disastrously high. My question to you is, have you ever felt unaccepted by the black community for appearing as “white-passing”. Because that is a huge part of some people’s experience as a black person- being discriminated against by other black people.

Ree Cee I bet she wants to have a bisexual affair with you though

Treez Beez I asked this same thing on a facebook post this morning!!!!

This is not new, in fact Buddhism alone is more than 500 years older than Christianity which is widely accepted in the West. I am not personally condoning what she did. She drew pictures of herself as a child as "black" and just chiming in another perspective that anyone who is not a Christian who believes in the concept of reincarnation might consider she was a another race in a previous lifetime. However, the way she went about her identity issue was totally wrong and lacks integrity. The greater message here though is if anyone believes in Reincarnation they will understand they have been multiple races and cultures. Therefore racism should not exist but it does because people hold onto physical and cultural identity so much. But talk to a Buddhist or a Hindu and they will give you a very different answer than a North American Christian. Open the mind to learn and you will have more access to different people with many different perspectives, not just your own.

Treez Beez That's a very insightful perspective. Opens up a whole new discussion. Maybe a psychic can work with her to try and unravel the mystery of why she thinks she's black - maybe she really was black before? Hmmmmm

Treez Beez YES

Treez Beez thank you

Melissa Perry is a bi racial woman, she literally said she has a white mother in this very interview. The reason Rachel Dolezal was able to play black is because black people accept anyone that has a tan as black and hold no pride or sense of exclusivity to the African phenotype.

@@ninagolgi3132 that is true but she is still black weather or not she is dark or light if she has one black parent she may still identify as black ! black is a dominant trait therefore being half black is still being black. you cannot tell a person who has 50 percent of black inside them , that they are not black , you definitely have to acknowledge every aspect of yourself but if she wants to identify as a black women then she has that choice! unfortunately being biracial also comes with scrutiny , and also being full black and darker skinned black ! everyones struggle pain and the things they face on a daily basis are all valid issues and should be acknowledged!

Because they are ignorant! You get to accept MJ somehow who changed the color of his skin regardless of his excuses. People have the right to choose how they live their lives as long as they are able to live with the consequences.

@@theknashikah1528exactly. That man bleached his skin, altered his nose and hair texture and even went as to say white children are biologically his. These people need to leave her tf alone. I am a black woman and I support her.

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