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In this video we are now on Chapter 8 of the Rachel Goes Rogue Podcast. This chapter she titled it Does Tom know what Love is, thou I believe that mb it should be titled Does Rachel Know What Love is, and you will see why. She has a special guest Pastor Calvin Roberson from Married at First Sight a Reality Love show on Lifetime. They get into love bombing, why people do it, why people are attracted to it and how to get out of a situation like that. Rachel talks about her relationship with James and Tom and why she stayed and what finally got her to see things differently. I really enjoyed this episode and hope you all do too!
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@user-nq7mj1cp6c
@user-nq7mj1cp6c 5 месяцев назад
I'm glad she's so over focused on Tom and analyzing him, which shifts the blame off of her. However, she's an adult that chose to betray a friendship for the excitement of being with Tom, she is not a victim in this at all. We saw her discussions with Ariana, all the while knowing she was with Tom. I would prefer if females would stop portraying themselves as victims, and acknowledge more their part and move on. Women playing the victim after they do something wrong is getting old and doesn't do anything to progress women.
@essohayee
@essohayee 22 дня назад
💯
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
Pastor Cal is a really good man and she or someone had the good sense to bring him into this to make it seem like she’s really working and make her look even better in the public eye
@terrikaye12114
@terrikaye12114 5 месяцев назад
Great interview with pastor Cal! He talked to everyone in interview, because, as he says many people are in these types of relationships. I even learned a few things! Your podcast is kind, respectful and very open! You’re such a smart young lady!!
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
She described them like she knew what was correct to say. If Arianna wasn’t her friend she deserves an Oscar because she certainly played the part of a close and caring friend
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 4 месяца назад
She tries to minimize the relationship with Ariana to make it seems like it wasn't what it was and so she can IMO play a victim when it comes to certain things. I also think she is trying to make it seems like now that they have something in common with Tom and its far different.🩵🩷
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
Lots of people were adopted, many many had childhood trauma. But people use that to fuel success or blame dysfunction
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
Love MAFS! I’ve never missed an episode. I love Pastor Cal! ❤️
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 4 месяца назад
It's a great show and very interesting, Pastor Cal is great 🩷🩵
@MWCOK
@MWCOK 5 месяцев назад
Ariana has made it clear on MANY OCCASIONS, that she will have no more conversations with Rachel, or Tom. So to WHOEVER is saying she should have gone back on the show to have conversations with these people, has a very cold heart. After watching that ReUnion, I never want to see anyone, ever, speak to her that way again. They ganged up on her, screamed to the top of their lungs, called her names that no one is allowed to call another person. Andy just set on his throne instead of getting control of the group, probably thinking of his check. This is her feelings about on her actions!! Everyone else has a podcast about her actions, I think she's the best one to address what she was feeling and what she was doing. ... and the use of the word Narcissist!! Only a narcissist would even call another person that...
@shishesha
@shishesha 4 месяца назад
Yes!
@sharonbackos4975
@sharonbackos4975 5 месяцев назад
I wish some would ask Rachel if she felt guilty what she did to Ariana?
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
That's a really great question. If I see her asking for questions like she did in one other Chapter I will for sure ask that for you and well all of us. I know I would love to know. TY for commenting and watching 💜🤍
@Claudia-cj3sz
@Claudia-cj3sz 5 месяцев назад
100% she's reading from a script
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
As Lala would say...Can't compute, I'm a🤖robot.🤣🤣🩷🩵
@theresaterry164
@theresaterry164 5 месяцев назад
Does Rachel have a clue to what love is? I think not!
@litasteiner7473
@litasteiner7473 5 месяцев назад
First I want to say that I love ❤️ you Rachel. We all make mistakes in life. Some mistakes are huge and are small, we cannot go back and correct them. Rachel why do you still have Lightening bolts on your Rachel goes Rouge. You need to move on and you need not to focus your energy and self on Tom. The same thing goes for Ariana . She moved on with someone else why does she care about the house. We all went through something in life one way or the other. Please focus on you feeling better about yourself. Good luck. You can do it.
@catherinecalvert7742
@catherinecalvert7742 5 месяцев назад
I think a big point in this episode was glazed over When Dr Cal answered her question of why she continued to pick toxic partners in her life He basically says it starts with your parents in your younger/formative years. Rachel doesnt bring up her adoption by her aunt and uncle Her bio Mom gave her to her sister(adoptive mom) because she already had children and her sistet diddnt I think this is continually glossed over and we know childhood trauma during your formative years is a huge factor The damage was there way before James or Tom and changing her name and pageants didnt help I believe this is a huge disconnect for Rachel/Raquel and how it affected her throughout her life
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
Just when I begin to get drawn in to sympathize with her. I always think of how dumb she acted on the show but that is not evident in these podcasts which makes me go back to the thought that she manipulated and masterminded so much of this. Lawsuits?? Yeah that’s really a healing process
@evelinel.9827
@evelinel.9827 5 месяцев назад
Like your commentary!
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
TY so much, it really means a lot to me when you and others reassure me, that you like my commentary. I love getting to do this and love getting to share with everyone. I hope you have a wonderful day hun, I'm snowed in and working on a new podcast for us. Let's just say Tom's now ex-Assistant Ann is spilling the tea LOL🩵🩷
@evelinel.9827
@evelinel.9827 5 месяцев назад
What a lovely comment. Thank you!!! Hope YOU have a good day also!!!@@Sunshinery
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
Tonight’s photo of Rachel is definitely not that of a victim!
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 4 месяца назад
She did look beautiful for the NY Fashion Show, I can give her that LOL but definitely not a victim. Which I always say she wants to be this victim when victims strive to be survivors and she just doesn't get it. TY for watching and commenting. Hope you have a wonderful night!🩵🩷
@AmyCubbison
@AmyCubbison 5 месяцев назад
Tom needed her to be by his side at. Terrible time.
@AmyCubbison
@AmyCubbison 5 месяцев назад
True. I am just tired of it.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i 3 месяца назад
Yeah, cos it’s all about him, it always is!
@ashleymcmeakin8590
@ashleymcmeakin8590 2 месяца назад
The thing is that people are starting to use these terms like love bombing so loosely! Buying gifts, giving admiration and compliments to someone is WHAT HAPPENS IN NEW relationships! Thats coined PUPPY LOVE and thats NOT a sign of being with a soon to be abuser. It makes me so irritated when people use these terms to describe their situations as if to play the victim. Rachel has no accountability because she was basically forced by a love bomber guys and we should admire her because she finally caught on before he turned Ted Bundy on her and beat her ass when his peas were room temp at dinner 🙄. C'mon Rachel, im sure you gave him gifts, you FAN GIRLED SO HARD even in front of his longterm gf and other cast members and prob manipulated him to leave Ariana! Ariana was with him for 10 years and never described him like this, but im sure she's laughing her self to sleep knowing Tom wasted their relationship on a gal who is basically calling him a narcissist maniac abuser and is now SUING him and making an entire podcast dedicated to bashing him. Rachel is the narc, she loves the innocent girl pick me vibe. This is a total crap show
@catherinecalvert7742
@catherinecalvert7742 5 месяцев назад
This morning she put out chapter 9 Its only 9 minutes long and has a glich in the end It basically double downs on her and Ariana werent best friends just friends and she was still wrong in her actions with Tom It discussed " Its not about the pasta" not being a code for drugs She had the pasta siciliana and had a few bites and Lala finished it and lastly recapping VPR episodes Are not a trigger and if they were she has things in place to combat that Im starting to find these episodes a tit for tat and going back to lessenimg Ariana as a victim in this thing between Raquel and Tom Im definetly losing intetest
@sheilaarnone6795
@sheilaarnone6795 5 месяцев назад
For someone who says age never wants to have anything to do with Sandoval or the likes of the rest of the gang spends every single day talking about him/them. That is not moving on. That is staying stuck in the mire and crying wolf while doing it. Stop blaming everyone else. BOTH she and Tom were in the wrong. She keeps saying how much of a bad liar she is and doesn’t like dishonesty yet she lied pretty damn well to her good friend(s) and covered that shit up for 9 months.
@terrikaye12114
@terrikaye12114 5 месяцев назад
First it was 7 months, second the reason she is doing this IS SO HER SIDE OF THE STORY COMES OUT IN HER WORDS. If you would take the time to listen then you would have learned so much from 30ish minutes from pastor Cal! She is working hard to change, not to be like that dysfunctional group of people who are way to codependent on each other and victims of their own failures, but needing this show to work when there is no storyline to help it work. Pay attention to what people are saying and realize that your triggered by her because something similar has happened to you and you hold tightly to it. For what reason only you know, but you can’t keep hating the others or yourself and projecting it onto someone else. You have to learn to behave differently.
@AmyCubbison
@AmyCubbison 5 месяцев назад
They were friends for a long time. That means something.
@litasteiner7473
@litasteiner7473 5 месяцев назад
Why are you focusing on the lightening bolts on Rachel goes Rogue at the sides ? Do you want for him Tom to see it ? Do you want for him to know secretly that you still love him ? Because that’s what it looks like.
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
I was married to a textbook diagnosed narcissist and he was way to self involved to use love bombs as that would be perceived as giving. That is more definitive of a narcissist because giving any type of love bombs would feel like they were giving something of themselves. Even for manipulative purposes they cannot engage in any behavior that would give anything of themselves
@heatherconnaughton3196
@heatherconnaughton3196 2 месяца назад
I thought Rachel was too shy to even give a toast and now she can do a Podcast, wreck a home and go around trying to sue everyone. How many personalities does she have?
@cunderw12
@cunderw12 4 месяца назад
I thought Tom said on the show that he quit drinking to wait for Rachel?
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 4 месяца назад
He did say that he quit drinking because she wasn't drinking, he was journaling because she was journaling and he wanted to feel "connected" with her and wanted her to feel like he did this with him.🩷🩵
@kellytriebwasser5001
@kellytriebwasser5001 5 месяцев назад
Raquel do you? Honestly tho, she’s asking jaded fans/projectors that have been same type of fans as the trolls and busy Bethany 😂 maybe seen an ep s10? They have no concept that Tom is the other 1/2 of the sh storm that was played as world news? I’m talking about these “counselor’s” at the spa, wonder their credentials, regardless common sense, and empathy completely missing- to not say, our advice is be here present and on you.. only. Or apparently the approach they took was that your real life had relationships in it, and whether toxic or troubled like yours w/ur mother and ur aunt- they let them contact u? And let you know its stay there or they’ll give away your dog? Gross. But the spa also let that be fine as it was still going on, and one day you were going to be back in real life? Correct! Cool- then how do they NOT have the opinion and sense to say, they don’t know toms therapist/ if he’s seeing one- not have him come there at all, to explain things to him, meet him(as a 3dimensional person and not a character that you can paint any which way w/ur day? He needed more support than you honey! He had WAAAAAY more to loose! And the 1person that could somehow help him hold on to it would be ok… ghosted him?! Girl grow up, stop being a follower to some therapist that was jealous/ wanted you. That was terrible advice they gave you- and advice btw does not have to be utilized!
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
How do you know that he’s drinking? Why are you following his present actions?
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 4 месяца назад
Tom said in a recent interview that he was drinking occasionally here and there and we all know Rachel loves reading all the headlines LOL🩷🩵
@GavynGageHudsynGentry
@GavynGageHudsynGentry 4 месяца назад
He also went on that boot camp show at same time he may have had to of quit drinking for that and just told her it was for her?! It sounds like she enjoys these things she says it’s always her tone she’s too giddy for these kinds of relationships. I really see why Lala thought what she did… my guy just tells me she’s no good
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 4 месяца назад
That definitely could be something for sure, but pretty much he has said this now 2 times on the new season that he stopped knowing that she stopped, and he was journaling knowing she was too and they would have this connection together since they "were doing it together" but I do think for sure he couldnt drink on that show he did as well but his excuses have been he did it for Rachel LOL. TY soooo much for commenting & watching hun🩷🩵
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i 3 месяца назад
I wouldn’t take much notice of Lala, she’s hardly a good judge of character when it comes to men. And the truth is Lala was jealous of Raquel’s relationship with James. That’s why she couldn’t stand her.
@jenchristianrn1
@jenchristianrn1 5 месяцев назад
Where Rachel’s channel??? She needs the money.
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
Well technically speaking, she never had a channel. I spoke about this in the beginning of Chapter 5 here on my channel (if you want to see the proof and all that). The Rachel Goes Rogue Channel wasn't actually Rachel, it was someone pretending to be her and uploading the podcast audio. They also didn't transform it which is part of the Fair Use Guidelines. So, one day one of my subs asked about it which I had subbed to the channel myself (thou I get the audio elsewhere in hope mb one day she would release video) thinking myself it was hers. BUT when I went to look, it was different. The link to it took me there but the name was changed and there weren't any videos anymore. I then went to google and searched the podcast, one of the episodes came up in google videos with that channel. So, I clicked on it and the video was removed and it said CONTENT was removed dure to a Copyright from iHeart Radio & Rachel Leviss. Which why if it was Rachels channel would she be striking her own channel. So, in conclusion LOL, the channel was just trying to pretend they were her, gain subs to get their channel monetized (watch hours & subs), but they got to it before it got out of hand. A lot of ppl thought it was her too. I did think it was weird she didn't promote it if she had one which she never did but also thought mb she was waiting till she had videos of the podcast before she did but that wasn't the case at all. I hope that helps and like I said I show everything in Chapter 5 if you want to see it all. TY for commenting too🩷❤
@user-gp5fr1wt9t
@user-gp5fr1wt9t 5 месяцев назад
She didn't deny that they were friends. She denied they were BESTIES. Even if she did initially deny it, she is admitting to it now. In the latest episode. I don't see the problem. It is s obvious that she is growing and changing more than every single person on the show. Listen, I watched the show for the first time and started with season 10. I was appalled like everyone else. Then I went back to season 8 and it all made sense to me. I felt for Raquel. I felt like she was just doing whatever she wanted after being so submissive and just a sweet girl. I truly feel bad she got herself in this mess.
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
I think when she isn't thinking about her answer and things come out more naturally the truth also comes out too. I do agree she is growing and changing more and is trying to be a better her. I don't think she had a clue who she really was or what she wanted in life for a long time. Even thou you think you know sometimes those are the times you're really lost. I appreciate your comment, your opinion and I can understand where you're coming from. I hope you're having a wonderful day🩵🩷
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
You should watch all seasons. I did before I even knew about the scandal. But you will understand Tom a lot better. And, I have no doubt Arianna loved him but she did often belittle him and treated him dismissively. She withheld sex but had no problem jumping in the backseat with Lala and after that claimed to be bisexual. I really liked her from DWTS but Tom treated her better than she treated him. It’s just a fact that you clearly see grow with each season
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i 3 месяца назад
@@danastewart9281Ariana was honest about Tom. And she knew he cheated on her, so her resentment came out at times. Tom is controlling and gets angry when things don’t go his way. Ariana was checked out a couple of years ago, IMO, but hoped things would get better. She saw him for who he is, and so did Raquel. 🤣😅😂 Hes not too smart, is he?
@adamsnewman5480
@adamsnewman5480 5 месяцев назад
You know who saw through Tom Sandoval's love bombing? Jax taylor. When he was getting married and he out of Tom from the wedding. Then when you let him back and he told Schwartz it's all an act man I regret having him. I hate to say it but Jax was right about a lot of them
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
Yes yes yes! And that was actually one of the ppl I was totally thinking about when I was talking about many different occasions we have seen this behavior from Tom. Jax was right and something I can give him too he know who he was as well and I can see some growth in him and can't wait to see The Valley. He was only on The Villians for well an episode LOL but I highly enjoyed his time and thought wow he's grown up a lot. Will you be watching The Valley? And TY for commenting and supporting my channel🤍💜
@adamsnewman5480
@adamsnewman5480 5 месяцев назад
@@Sunshinery I wasn't at first but I think I am going to give it a try. I'm amazed how much Jack's has grown. By the way I love your channel .
@michaelcraig9287
@michaelcraig9287 5 месяцев назад
Jason has not grown at all. Still a cocaine using racist
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i 3 месяца назад
Jax can smell another rat cos he’s one too. He and Scum were very alike when it comes to their treatment of women.
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 3 месяца назад
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i 💯💯🩷🩵🌞
@shishesha
@shishesha 4 месяца назад
What are you talking about when you say she denies Arianna was her friend? She admitted to that right before you said she didn't
@classyconversationswithrho344
@classyconversationswithrho344 5 месяцев назад
That Is Love Bombing! I don't think he researched Narcissistic language (your other speaker) I was confused there for a second. I researched it for almost a year. As well understand it too well. Rachel deserves grace! So sick of how people treated her! If you don't understand it please don't speak on it! Its offensive to be honest. To the people who have been there and done that. Just keeping it real.
@Lightholder07
@Lightholder07 5 месяцев назад
Married at first sight, what a joke! Like that’s reality!
@sandralinke9150
@sandralinke9150 5 месяцев назад
With all due respect… You said you didn’t want to return to the show because you wanted to be out of the limelight So you start a podcast to do a weekly recap of the show you said caused you extreme mental health issues…only to keep you in the limelight? 😅 Come on girl just be honest with yourself. This isn’t really showing growth…If you want to demonstrate growth, have IN PERSON conversations instead you f just behind a microphone Whoever is guiding you in this venture is doing you a huge disservice. You DO want to be in the chaos and simply “control” the narrative but wow is it working against you Good luck 🙏
@AmyCubbison
@AmyCubbison 5 месяцев назад
Stop over analyzing and diagnosing
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
Why? I don't think it's wrong of me to do that or anyone else. It's something we watch and listen to and we have the right to have an opinion on it and think about everything we are hearing and seeing. I'm sorry if you don't like that any of us do that but here on my Channel we are all allowed to do that and express how we feel. So I respect your thoughts and I hope you can respect mine. Hope you have a great day 💜🤍
@rachelhernandez8744
@rachelhernandez8744 5 месяцев назад
I was listening to get the inside information from her but her podcast is just boring
@danastewart9281
@danastewart9281 4 месяца назад
I’m beginning to find Rachel’s podcast as boring as she was on the show
@MWCOK
@MWCOK 5 месяцев назад
stop with your fake overview... She NEVER SAID that she and Ariana were not friends, SHE SAID THEY WERE NOT BEST FRIENDS. Be honest occasionally.
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
My Overview is just that.....MY OVERVIEW. Literally in this Chapter a few seconds before I paused to say that, Rachel herself said it again Ariana was MY FRIEND. As I have also said before they might not have been BEST FRIENDS, but they were definitely close friends. But these are again my perceptions of it from all I have seen, heard, watched, read, I'm allowed to my opinions on it just like YOU ARE TOO. So, telling me "to be honest" well is pointless because I've been honest this whole time, I always say it like I see it, and I'm also VERY aware other might have a different opinion then mine. Its ok if they have a different one too and I can respect all opinions. And usually, we still have great convos too. Anyways thou your thoughts and opinions font agree with mine, and you're upset about it, I do hope you have a better day🩷🩵
@cici2716
@cici2716 5 месяцев назад
I feel like she has said Ariana wasn't her friend, she said she was friends with Scheana.
@buffytvs73
@buffytvs73 5 месяцев назад
On B's podcast she said they were acquaintances. that is bullshit. there is plenty of video (not on VPR) to prove this.
@cici2716
@cici2716 5 месяцев назад
@@buffytvs73 yes, they all hung out together and went to music festivals when they weren't filming. I would understand if she said she wasn't friends with Lala and Katie because they weren't in their circle of friends that they had off the show. Raquel has been changing her story but listening to her podcast on this channel has made me she that she is growing and are taking accountability and seeing Sandoval for who he is. Sandoval on the other hand still blames everybody and continues to throw shade to Ariana.
@leannedewar7043
@leannedewar7043 5 месяцев назад
Well in the finale ariana herself called Raquel one of her best friends so sunshinery i agree with u @sunshinery
@Sunshine134_
@Sunshine134_ 5 месяцев назад
No, he doesn’t. Next!
@Sunshinery
@Sunshinery 5 месяцев назад
Well, we already knew that 🤣 why she was asking still I'm unsure about, and I believe she should have called this Chapter, Does Rachel know what Love is, because she was the one struggling thinking, she loved them both but really, she didn't know what actually good love was and might still not be totally aware. But yay Tom loves no one but himself, something we knew since season 1 LOL. I appreciate you commenting and thanks for watching too🩷🩵
@catherinecalvert7742
@catherinecalvert7742 5 месяцев назад
​@@SunshineryAgree 100%
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