Racism in Metal: A very bad idea | SpectreSoundStudios 

I've got no use for homophobia either.

+SpectreSoundStudios ditto

+SpectreSoundStudios What's the name/band of the singer you mentioned?

+Kijiji Judas Priest

+Chris Cannon I love the message that metal is accepting to so many groups. I am a Christian, and I love the fact that we can all put aside our differences and just rock out together.

+CrazyBadCuber Well... so what? There is brown pride and black pride. White pride is wrong? I'm just trying to understand how one kind of pride is "hatred" while another kind of pride is "cultural identity and healthy." It would appear that only "white pride" is hatred. Isn't there an MMA fighter with "BROWN PRIDE" tattooed on his stomach? Is that hatred 'bullshit' or is he just "positively identifying with his culture"?

CHERNOBYL STUDIOS Here here! Nothing wrong with being proud of who and what you are no matter what race or gender! Wait unless your Caucasian! Then you have to be proud in silence cuz someone might think your a racist. Well I'm proud of who and what I am. Don't like it? Too bad, get over it and thicken your skin.

CHERNOBYL STUDIOS lol you're a fucking tool man. Now you're a mind reader? You think I think black people saying black power wouldn't bother me? What the fuck did I just write above? Are you stupid, you can't read? I already acknowledged I don't think that shits right either. Also, just because phil said that, doesn't mean he's not going to get ANY consequences from it. He said it in a public place, hailed hitler while he was at it, in front of a bunch of people, and people carry portable cameras around with them everywhere these days. He deserves what he's getting. It's 2016. Grow the fuck up. There's no reason or need to be racist. Why is it ok for a racist to be hateful towards other groups of people, yet when they get backlash for it it's not ok for them to get consequences by the mass public for it? You're probably a god damned skinhead yourself. You're sure acting like one. Also I couldn't give any fucks at all what a drunk guy screaming white power means to you. You are not everybody. MOST people have a problem with racists these days. The fact that you do not, says a whole fuck of a lot about you. Now shut the fuck up, idiot. I'm muting this conversation so I don't have to hear back from a person as fucking moronic and stupid as you. Have a good day.

Didn't read past the first sentence. Cheers.CrazyBadCuber

+CHERNOBYL STUDIOS The difference is that black people have faced prejudice for hundreds of years, so just like a "straight pride" it's not fucking needed whatsoever.

Not cool man. The bottle could have been recycled. Nazis are waste that rot slowly.

Your friend is a scumbag

MrGenedancingmachine He probably got worse when the lights went out, he was really in the wrong crowd to do something like that, we were there to hear metal, not see people act like jackasses between sets. Waving a swatstika around in a public area, especially a highstrung and inebriated crowd at a metal concert, is a quick way to cause trouble, regardless of freedom of speech. What did he expect to happen? That the crowd would go, "wow, what a cool guy."

Daydream Anatomy You don't assault people, its very simple.

MrGenedancingmachine I didn't, and I wouldn't. I'm just saying offensive behavior can have some backlash. It's not like the bottle hurt his that much, at most it'd have caught him wrong and cut his face. But he just looked in the direction it was thrown and started yelling. And a concert isn't a place where people can talk out their differences from 20 feet away. I mean I could see people being politely asked to move when smoking, or something, but he was just doing it to attract attention and cause something. I've also seen people get punished for moshing rudely, like not helping people up, and being assholes, shit some bands stop playing for. Which just pisses everyone off who was being respectful.

Yeah, I don't think he gjves a fuck!! He is STILL a Legend and the rest of you are pawns

Phil grew up in the French quarter of Louisiana the most crazy and diverse place in the US. Phil is an Athiest as well so he did a live stream with AIU. Very surprising to see Phil as a fan of AIU. The only thing Phil is guilty of is not being ashamed of being white, which there's nothing wrong with that. In this situation he was fucking with hecklers in the audience. Watch his live stream with AIU. He tells a lot about his history and hobbies and racism isn't one of them. He gets a bad rap because of his image.

Jared Ellis Dime bag was the drunk one, Phil was the one on heroine and their old singer was the 80s high pitch singer on the album. Phil doesn't sing unless it's real low in tone.

Did you or your ancestors suffer under Nazi oppression? If not, then the apology wasn't meant for you anyway, so it doesn't really matter if you "buy" it or not..

Axeman Andrew true he does do the high metal scream but he doesn't sing high notes. Those high notes on the cowboys from Hell album was there old singer, back when they were glam rock. Granted, that's something nobody wants to talks about anymore.

robb never apologized for saluting

Wow really? How do you hold someone accountable though?? Your very idea on holding accountable for saying what they want IN America is what the Nazis did indeed do. yOU DON'T solve issues like these in that manner, the more intolerant towards intolerance we become the more intolerant we become, Education however is key, inclusion, not forced a bit of traveling and culture does you good. What we need to learn is not to be proud of our biological characteristics but our actions, attitudes and achievements we humans give to this world. That is TRUE POWER.

@@eddiemperor even though I'm defending phil, freedom of speech isn't freedom from social repercussion. it's not like we're sueing Phil.

"Accountable" are you now judge, jury And Are you saying people can't change? that's an awful headspace to be in.

Agreed 💯

Hence Ozzy>Dio x infinity

+TheAngryAntitheist This is definitely what it was! ;)

He seemed apologetic or at least saddened. No doubt it's stopped him from being completely arse fucked by the metal world, but that doesn't seem like the only reason he's apologised.

+TheAngryAntitheist I think the apology was probably genuine. Phil doesn't do anything he doesn't want to, and its not like he has a reputation to protect anyway, he will likely never be a major act again but he will always draw enough people to make a living so there's really nothing forcing him into an apology.

Phil protecting his image? Like he ever cared about that in his life hahahaha.

+Arnold Moore The thing is he didn't acknowledge he was wrong. He was spouting bullshit to protect what's left of his image.

*IT DOES NOT BELONG ON THIS WORLD, IT BELONGS ON FUCKIN' MARS, MAN*

The Frözenfires Hahaha. Headbanger's journey reference?

The Frözenfires Haha. Headbanger's journey reference? Badass documentary

Yeah but it's a really big issue in metal. So many bands and fans are racists and nazis, more than any other genre.

@@MorbidMindedManiac If there's people on Mars, I guarantee you'll find your "racism" too.

yep saw them in San Diego and got their DVD signed by them. they live there in San Diego now

Yo

please tell me it's a concept album about The Epic of Gilgamesh

+MutilatedMetalhead It's an amazing band, I remember that documentary.

+MutilatedMetalhead Kickass band imo.

Hell yea. Rob dresses like a leather daddy. Dressing in leather is a historical part of a segment of the LGBT community.

There is actually Nazi, Communist, Christian and probably muslim metal too. They mostly suck though, and are very marginalized. Christian metal is pretty big though, despite being mostly PG clean metal in the US.

Even black metal nowadays isn't about religion. Damn, you even have Rudra who plays some kind of a hindu black metal lol

There are lots of rusian nazi bands. Guess they like to be enslaved by germans lol.

There's still the question of WHO IN FUCK'S NAME WOULD DO THAT ON PURPOSE? Then again, there's a certain Russian metal singer who pulled a similarly moronic stunt(so I've heard, anyway), and didn't even apologize for it. I guess every community has its idiots.

@@ParadoxapocalypSatan those have their roots in 90s, when USSR collapsed and street neo-nazi movements were really powerful because of all the ethnic conflicts that took place back then.

Rock on! \m/

Life is short, play loud!

You dont need a singer. Just record your neighbours \m/

keep metal muic More heavier against all those creepier things like racism.

How do you judge if someone is genuine with their apology? Only answer I know to give is generally, the individual's actions after the apology.

@@Aaron-zh4kj his "actions" we're picking his @#cking arm up and extending it, why is there some much of a "symbolism" worship with people today? like they're worth apologizing too, most of the metal fans I know damn well aren't no angels themselves.

@@shelbyspeaks3287 Yeah, I'm not up in arms about his "actions" myself. Knowing him being the type of person he is, he was being a bonehead/trying to get a reaction. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?

He's only sorry cuz he got caught.

+Kevin McGrath i agree

🤘

He was being a typical drunken bastard, don't get me wrong i've used that excuse before but sometimes it brings the dark truth out of people

EDIT: The only real question is, can you djent? Duddudjskwa djent.

no good (attack the radical), rise

I need... five minutes alone

Someone needs their diaper changed 😭

did you stop crying yet? lol!!

I know I'm late to this one lol, but I just wonder how many kids in bands saw Phil doing this and copied him😬

Awesome! Thanks for the update!

+Tedris4 Great to hear! I wondered what happened to them too.

Really?

Fuck hip hop trash

Haha not sure about that brother. Metal can be racist and elitist. It pushes people away with their “youre a poser” mentality. Definitely not the most inclusive genre, albeit my favorite.

Said the guy with the nickname which reminds me of burnt churches.

@@ramon2008 elitists are the immune and posers are the virus. That's why is still the realest music genre

Comments like this is why anti music has to exist. A literal individual expression in form of music shouldn’t inherently be anything

@@lowerbackmutilator2987 I have no idea what "anti music" means but art without freedom of expression is always an idea ready to die. Freedom of expression does not exist under authoritarian rule. Also I wasn't talking about music as a whole, just metal, which was founded on the idea of not being told what to do or how to sound. That's why it broke into so many sub genres.

thereisnochoiceleft Get that strawman outta here. Surw Hitler is bad, Nazis are bad etc but him moving his hand didnt suddenly signal the crowd to start slaughtering each other, he did nothing malicious. Youre just way too sensitive. Signals do have meaning. Not a violent nor harmful one though

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David Allan coe has a black drummer. He was once off putting but he’s come around. All in all I like him

Both Dimebag and Vinnie were known to be pretty racist.

@@MoonOvIce you can leave now

Good

+TOTAL You spelled "you" wrong.

Koedix Oh, my bad. I'm just not a fan of the whole closed-minded, backwoods fucknugget-mentality. There's always next time.

Did you hear a whooshing sound just now?

+TOTAL likwd for the fucknugget.

+Cai Durkan Dunno about you, but I think the TOTAL guy did.

Mainstream media is gay af it doesn't scare normies anymore its culturally accepted

+Obi-Wan Kannabis I'm also bi, I feel the same way. Also, your username is amazing.

+Obi-Wan Kannabis exactly. 100% agree

Obi-Wan Kannabis *gay

+Obi-Wan Kannabis lol man at least you know how to respond.. Always better to respond with humor otherwise it will make you look bad props

Precisely, My favorite Drummers are "Hellhammer" from Mayhem and Darkthrone's "Fenriz" , They've said some pretty questionable things, but that doesn't remove the fact that they're amazing drummers.

+Kiefer Hyder Also, I feel he wasn't really sorry for what he did. It was more like he was sorry about being caught in the act.

^ EXACTLY. That part!

#lynchphil !!!

+zupperm Yeah they're still going, Their new album "Gilgamesh" was released at some point (not sure when lol). It's worth throwing them a like facebook.com/acrassicauda/?fref=ts

Isn't it ironic?

J G you’re forgetting about the existence of national socialist black metal

@@deadinsidemcgee411 You don't get it, do you?

Miha Strajnar nah, I don’t get it. I one hundred percent don’t get it, could you explain?

@@deadinsidemcgee411 Even with the sarcasm, I still don't think you get it. You said J G forgot the exact same thing his comment was based on.

+Ryan robinson music If it means anything, maybe it's that gay people have very, very good reasons to make amazing, emotionally moving music.

rok muzic iz shit its satanik end fredy marcuri suxxxs.

Jeremy Estruc Piss off. Why are you even here?

+Jeremy Estruc lol

+Ryan robinson music So I gathered it's Judas Priest, Queen, Elton John, and...George Michael?

he sounds a lot like me 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾

Varg is a convicted murder. A total scumbag in my opinion.

+SpectreSoundStudios Okay, and the rest of points? You know, the ones about expecting people to apologize for expressing a fucking opinion? Edit: 5 hours later and not a peep.

+Wil Bane About the Metallica thing, you can see they're way younger on that picture, and I bet it was meant as a joke, heck, Hitler salute jokes are made all around the world.

Brossel That's the thing. That's around the Black album era. Can we judge them for that now, almost 30 years later? Yes, but does that mean that's who they are now? No. David Bowie made statements in the 70s that were in supports of fascism and Hitler. That's not who he was when he died.

+Wil Bane Yeah Bowie was doing an incredible amount of cocaine at the time. That tends to skew ones judgement.

Wil Bane Exactly, what matters is how and who you are now, to a degree of course,

+Brossel: Yeah, especially with the nose mustache. You can absolutely give them shit for it, because some jokes _are_ fucked up. But in Phil's case it seems more genuine.

Ok Hitler

not only that but he's done this many many times, and had speeches about it too.

+SlikkTim yeah

Keep southern pride away from Nazism please, not all of us are resist fuckheads

+Bryn Richards That's what I wonder, as well. Robb brought up some stuff that you really should take into consideration before making a video like this.

It's on my watch list. I was asked to share my opinion, so I did.

+Bryn Richards One washed up 90's band talking about another.

+TheTundraTerror ...and what does the band's age have to do with anything whatsoever? Talking about racism is a serious matter, no matter if you happen to be a lonely RU-vid commenter, a washed up 90's band or a friggin' top-notch politician.

Mr. Gul Now you're just being stupid.

+Chuggsbigman then you have the metal elitists....

acolytes777 Always a turd in the blanket

+TheMango121 You don't know? Maybe both?

Regenas If you don't know, you wouldn't understand the answer.

216trixie If you cant provide me an answer, you dont know why its racist either :)

***** you were muted cause 12 year olds dont need to discuss adult matters

+Shawn Jones lol mate thats utter bullshit, im a white guy , went to school in a black neighbour hood, a ghetto, got in the odd fight but on the whole i found living in a black ghetto less difficult than living in a white ghetto. Im wondering what your basing the statement "blacks could never contribute to White society" on? Seeing as you listen to Metal which evolved out of blues, and the god father of metal is a mixed race fella, without him metal would not exist, whats his name Jimi something? Then there is the simple matter of Roman and greek civilisations providing the basis for most white culture, seeing as your clearly an idiot, you probably dont know that much of the Roman culture, came from the greeks, and much of the Greek culture came from Egypt, while mine and your ancestors were building mud huts and working out which was the sharp end of a spear, they where building fucking Pyramids and charting the skies. Im sure your probably equally unaware that our number system and basis for science(even the word chemistry) evolved out of the Arabs and Moors> its not that White people should feel bad or guilty or black people are bad or should feel guilty, the fact is EVERY culture brings something to the table and in EVERY culture you have ignorant dick heads that give the other people from that race or culture a bad name, i think we have worked out you are maybe one of these people

False.

Jessie Marie you know what makes it hard to “come to together”?? Everything you just said. When I see things many things that Phil and others do that’s racially offensive to many, I’m allowed to feel whatever what I want. Having someone tell me basically “fuck your feelings” followed by “let’s be friends” I’m like 🧐🧐🤨🤨🤨 there will never be a full on race war because fortunately, there many white folks who don’t silence black folks when one of their “cousins” acts like an ass and vice versa. The problem are the ppl who want to tell me how to feel when the subject at hand has no real impact to them. I’d never tell a Jewish individual how to feel when someone says something derogatory about their beliefs or people.

Ethiopian Crackhead this isn't a cornfield get the straw men out of here

You might want to read a history book & look up the word context.

+thisdyingsoul76 I don't know who you hang out with, but where do you see racism and homophobia in metal? The reason Anslemo got in the news with this is precisely that it's so rare. Why is nobody complaining about racism and homophobia in rap? That shit is vile.

I believe in freedom of speech, but freedom of speech also means I'm free to say FUCK YOU if you're a racist piece of shit nazi.

The woke SJW "anti-racists" tend to be the most racists hypocrites out there today. All they do is make racist generalizations about people based on skin color, and usually have a deep hatred and aggression toward white people based on a dishonest false narrative. These woke SJWs calling themselves "anit-racist" is like a group of people who go around beating animals calling themselves "animal lovers". They obfuscate who they really are and their intentions by dishonestly branding themselves as something they aren't. Skin color would be irrelevant to a real anti-racist and they wouldn't go around viewing everyone and making assumptions and generalizations about them according to their skin color. Wokism is just neo-racism of today

+Johnny Flores Yes. I listen to communists if they rock (Rage against the machine) - and that religion has killed tens of millions. You have to be a special kind of stupid to not see the hypocrisy where communism is seen as benevolent edgy still, and the slightest white pride is seen as the Hollywood version of Hitler. Black violence against whites is apparently a non issue and black power is also a cute edgyness.

+impalaSS65 I can't stand that it is "edgy" these days to be into European socialism or communism or whatever you want to call it. Those people are willing to be blind to history.

Black pride is empowering, white pride is racist, apparently.

then don't express your racism

Ghostface Killah is taken from a karate flick. Learn your facts before you spew fucking bullshit out your mouth. The fact you had to go talk about whole OTHER genre instead of acknowledging white metal guys can be insensitive towards minorities shows how unwilling you are to admit there’s a problem. As an Asian guy I’ve experienced more racism in metal than hip hop. Sucks because I liked that music but go on about how knowledgeable you are.

@@noodlehoppa7212 I am aware of the origin of the name, and no matter how you slice it, its a racist name. We have COUNTLESS examples of hip hop racism, and hip hop is mainstream. Hip hop's racism is universally accepted. And as an asian person, I'm sure you'll continue to experience racism until you start looking at yourself as a human being instead of a race modifier. And as far as you personally experiencing more racism in metal, you must have lived in the one area on the planet where racism in metal is tolerated, because I've been in the metal community since the early 80's and I know damn well that racism in metal is almost nonexistent. As a matter of fact, aside from a few racist bands over the decades, I've met maybe 25 fans in metal in my lifetime, that were racist. So maybe you're not getting friction because you're asian, maybe its because you're an asshole who is too busy identifying yourself as asian to make friends and enjoy yourself. Or maybe its all in your head. Who knows. But my original point stands, and you've only proven it more true. Especially since it can't be argued that hip hop tolerates racism in its ranks, and racist artists win awards, get radio play, etc. The reason I brought that conversation up is because THAT is a problem. There's not enough racism in metal for it to EVER be a problem. The metal community has always been accepting. Just because metal heads don't like YOU doesn't mean they're racist. Don't come over here trying to piss on facts.

@@bryanharrison3889 Bravo! you've shouted the mouth of that black racism apologist!

@@bryanharrison3889 Hip Hop isn't racist, what you talking about? Ever heard of the BEASTIE BOYS or 3RD BASE? White dudes which are respected by most of black rap artists. WU's Ghostface ist a massive superhero comic lover. Why is that name racist? Because you say so?

His personal actions should determine people's opinion of his music, I'm a huge Mayhem fan but that doesn't mean I support Varg Killing Euronymous.

"What someone believes or believes in isn't nearly as important as what they do and what they say." Giving a nazi salute is doing something, and it's not something most people appreciate other people doing.

Meister Dejv you’re brain damaged man