Raising a Gender-Neutral Child | Raising Baby Grey | The New Yorker Documentary 

clear661 this. Yes.

Well said.

Thank you! There is nothing wrong with gender. Its the unhealthy stereotypes and the boxes that individuals are placed in that is the problem.

This is exactly what the parents are doing lol

disposableverything no they literally getting rid of the child’s gender

Exactly. WTH

Rephrase that as she is forcing her child into freedom. Bet you feel pretty stupid now, huh?

@@TheFimoLady is non-binary the same as freedom though? For some, yes it is. Some people are non-binary, and that is their freedom. But for others, they genuinely are one gender or the other; whether they are cis or trans, some people are a man or a woman. Non-binary would feel wrong for those people... It would be the opposite of freedom.

@Larissa totally agree!

genderless till they choose!

I could never imagine calling a baby it or they, why not raise their son or daughter to understand that their gender doesn't define their interests or their choices? Raise the child to be proud and confident in their gender but not defined by it

Piratesfan123 people aren’t “it’s” and you can totally raise your child using they/them pronouns. You use those when you don’t know the gender of a person and people are non-binary.

@@maweenabby Raising them to know that they have a gender but it doesn't define them is way healthier, these children are essentially imo being raised to have identity issues and to worry about what they identify as before they can even talk or understand what any of those words mean, it in essence sticking a label on them and expectations as much as say forcing a child to only play with "girls" or "boys" toys and to only be interested in pursuits seen as traditionally for boys or girls

How does a baby know their pronouns?

Agree. My parents let me choose what I want to wear (and I mostly prefer the girly clothes like skirts and dresses, also pink stuff) and what toys I want (they bought me puzzles, Barbies, dolls, soldier toys, cars, etc. Some are gender neutral and some are gender specific). They share what they like with me (which are mostly gender specific) and I grow to like them. They let me gravitate towards the things that I like without confusing me by erasing my gender pronoun. For me, I'm very grateful to be brought up that way.

I think once the child can speak and give there own opinions and choose what stereotypical things they want that’s when the child will decide who they want to go by and the parents will accept that

Ppl have biases and unconscious behaviors when they hear "they" nonbinary too.

It's because that gender neutral is a scientific concept so most people won't understand it so well. It first requires people to acknowledge the human consciousness lives within the brain, and the human brain isn't gender-specific. If people don't understand this, it's unlikely that they will understand the concept of gender-neutrality.

Yes I was thinking the same way. I understand where the parents are with this and how they see and it makes sense. I think there are some flaws but there is with everything.

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mzapcupcake - like the hippie indigo kids. V interesting how that panned out.

@Bob Well wouldn't that depend on their upbringing? As long as they're living in a loving healthy environment that won't be an issue. It's external influence/social pressure that could cause something like that.

yeah I read that moms in the bay area who did raised their kids without gender found that the kids become more obsessed with gender norms such as guns for boys ect. even if there were no images of guns in the house

like whatever is a taboo becomes a big deal

I totally agree, the world is changing so much around us evedyday, i find this very interesting and it makes me excited to see what the future might bring.

Well why not?

Since it’s difficult to change other people’s views, the parents are making the baby’s gender anonymous so the people that come in contact with them can’t stereotype. I don’t think they want to erase the gender, they said they don’t want to assign one until their baby is knows, and it could change.

Gender roles and gender are the same thing

@@o0mew0o Choosing a gender is a decision that rarely occurs to adults let alone children. Choosing your gender is not a common choice. Most children are fine with their birth gender (unless they have gender dysphoria) they just removed his gender without his 'permission'???

Irrelevance They didn’t remove the baby’s gender. It’s just not assigned. The child will identify with something or nothing eventually. They didn’t want them growing up with a gender role. The baby is not going to choose a gender when they’re older, they’ll know it easier than people that were assigned to a gender by birth. You’re right that they’ll know either way if they have gender dysphoria. I think what the parents are trying to do is to make sure their child doesn’t have gender dysphoria. So even if they identify as a male, female or non binary, they don’t have to go through the uncomfortable transition. It wasn’t common for women to choose whether they wanted to have children, to study or marry back in the day and we (I’m a cis gendered woman) have that option now. Just because a “choice” wasn’t common up until today, doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be in the future. I still believe your gender isn’t a choice but what you identify with. It’s also quite different in different cultures so it also depends where these children grow up.

The whole of this is about what "they want", they being the parents... How they were raised. on and on and on it's all about them. Sadly that is going to carry their trauma forward onto their own child.

Be this kid and see how much fun it is being a "freak", kids are mean, did you all forget????????

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It doesn’t matter if the kid fits in with others, as long as they fit in with their own identity, if that makes sense. There is one thing worse than others not understanding you, and that is you not understanding yourself.

@@mercuria2563 it does matter because humans are social animals.

So if I identify as non-binary that makes me so? Where do we get these strange, nonsensical ideas?

Menghi C- It isn’t too much to change a pronoun in order to respect someone. It’s not so strange, and if you identified as such you’d want people to respect your wishes of what you wanted to be called. I think a person’s identity should be respected even if you don’t understand why they feel that way. It just puts more hate into the world to call them by their dead name or the pronoun they don’t identify with. Just respect people, because someone’s chosen identity isn’t nonsensical and it’s not too much to ask.

Menghi C just don’t make a little kid go by they/them, call them by their birth pronouns until they’re old enough to fully understand.

Menghi C The reason they are doing this, (or rather, the way they _should_ be doing this), is to try and understand gender on a scientific level, which we have been unsuccessful in doing thus far. The experiment is to see whether or not/to what extent is gender a social construct/neurologically ingrained, and whether or not that gender is binary.

1. I believe you shape your child whatever you do 2. Nonbinary is not 'less than' or 'only okay if it HAS to be' 3. Even if your parents made you nb, as long as they didnt do it forcefully that is totally fine. In a way, my dad made my favourite colour orange because he wore an orange tshirt a lot. Its exactly the same thing. Orange still was my faviurite colour.

You have a good point

Same here

My dad is Jewish and he didn't raised us in the religion (his mom forced him and he didn't wanted to because it's simply not what he wants) and i'm glad that he let me have my own beliefs because at the end i don't wanna commit to a religion when i don't wanna

I feel the same

If you don't raise them by their biological gender, you are in denial about who your child is. There is the infamous "lizard man" who had his tongue cleft and scales cut into his skin. He honestly identified with lizards. Is he a lizard? Really?!!!

this will definitely happen. We all NEED some identity to fall back on

Raising them with no gender is going to end up with the child facing issues similar to that of a trans child, regardless if the child actually turns out to be trans or not in the end. Raising the child with their birth gender, but raising them in a neutral and accepting way seems like it will minialize these issues. If the child is cis? Well it changes nothing except you hopefully have a very open and accepting child who doesn't contribute to harmful stereotypes. Child is trans? Well hopefully because of how open and accepting you are and the views you tried to instill in your child the experience of transitioning is the best it can be.

I agree. Babies have a very underdeveloped complex thinking so understanding gender is hard..So why give a baby your own pronouns?

Hopefully, once the child is old enough to start noticing gender differences, they will start to form their correct gender identity. Statistically speaking, this child is probably not trans (but certainly could be). I hope the parents allow Grey to form their preferred gender while continuing to fight gender stereotypes.

Don't speak for all trans people. Im nonbinary trans person and my life would have been significatly better being raised this way.

Because it’s the moms choice

@@fenvictoria1437 yeah. but still rrude

i think criticising the mothers choice like that was rude and she was right to talk over her.

I mean...its not her kid to talk about in the first place

junklex They could’ve just made their own video about their baby. But they “had” to get an interviewer.

I totally get what you mean. However, I do think this is an experiment that should have been done a long time ago, to understand gender as a whole and whether or not it is a social construct. Also, as far as I’m aware, absence of gender _is_ non-binary. But I might have that wrong.

Kiera Haggarty yeah it’s definitely an interesting experiment that will have a valuable conclusion but I hope that this experiment isn’t at the expense of the child’s well being. Also about the non binary thing, I think it depends on who you ask since it is an Umbrella term, because for some it is then absence of gender (like agender people) and for others it’s their gender identity and they would like it to be addressed as a gender. So it definitely depends

mzapcupcake Very true.

I dont think they them automatically means nb? Im cis female but im super comfortable to be called they them

Violetta Schmieder but are they your preferred pronouns or you just don’t mind it?

I would suggest though that you start conversations about gender very early. Point out things like "have you ntoiced that girls seem to be wearing pink more than boys? Why do you think that is?" And then build gradually on that That way it never becomed a taboo topic and the child will actually know upfront that its okay to identify as whatever

My son(5) is a boy who loves "stereotypical" boy things, but also refuses to cut his long hair and likes to play with my makeup. He picks his own clothes and toys with no pressure by us. 🥰 I think it's cute that he prefers his hand me down girls shorts and Minecraft T's with his hair in a frinchbraid down his back. He's his own interesting little person and he can be anything or anyone.

Same

I’m sorry, but what do you mean by saying “I’m gonna raise her as a girl”? What would you do different?

Same!

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Lmao some people should no have kids

news flash, a baby doesn't know how to choose what to wear.

That's why they dress them in gender fluid clothes

@@rayraygaleva9493 do u think they care? The babys safe and covered

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the whole point of being a parent is to guide children. if all our parents just let us do what we want we would be worse than entitled celebrities

You are an idiot. Are they going to show the baby throwing a fit? These parents are child abusers.

Yeah like the baby knows. Face it, this is child grooming.

What if she want pink when she older are they gonna tell her no

Emily SilverStar how is it child grooming?

ATTRIA joy no, what they want to do is let them choose what they want to be. So if they want to wear pink, they will wear pink, if they want to play with dolls or cars their parents will let them.

This 🙏🏽

Why are you using that against trans people lol. Trans people don't exist to comfort to social expectations of gender. Nor are they saying gender stereotypes are good. What they are saying is "let me exist", and that kid should be just kids, not hold to any society expectation of what they should or shouldn't be. I think you can agree on the last one.

Florencia Argañaraz i don’t think you read my comment. This often happens when people don’t actually want to read or understand and instead want to be offended. Cuz what was used against trans people? Who said they couldn’t exist? My comment says a child can be a boy or girl and be raised without conforming to gender stereotypes. The point is let your child tell you they’re trans - you don’t decide for them. Im sure you can agree with that if you’re done pretending you were attacked.

@@FlowerTower You don't decided if they are trans or not (when in the video did the parents say their child was trans lol) The situation you are describing just doesn't happen in the real world. what are you referring to?. But the parent gets to decided if their children are a girl or a boy?

Florencia Argañaraz fact: 99% of people identify with their AGAB (assigned gender at birth). That’s why people raise their child as their assigned gender and it usually works since 99% of people identify with it. Raising your child as nonbinary makes no sense cuz only 1% of people are.

Yeah! Gray’s opinion when they're older would honestly be great and so interesting! I would love their thoughts on everything!❤️

a victim of bullying

Comfused is what she will be

Bullied. That's what he will become.

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People like Putin, Xi, the mullahs in Iran and other people around the world see the collapse of civilization and the weakness of the United States and other Western countries that entertain this sort of think. Take one look at Biden's top nuclear waste disposal official and you'll see how this sort of thing is encouraging bad actors the world over to do as they please, rightfully believing that the West will do nothing to stop them. The West is the last and only bastion of liberty in the world but we won't be for long if we keep broadcasting the Western freak of the week to the rest of the world. Weakness is a provocation.

thank you for this thoughtful comment

I have a daughter and she 3 but I let her play with anything and dress her how she like I had a few comment she loves Dinosaurs and this guy she was 2 at the time she had a dinosaur pj with blue sock I just went to get mail and the guy looked and was like boy or girl and I said she is a girl and he like you should show her as a girl and I’m like mind your business she likes dinosaurs and same thing I went to a restaurant with my husband she wearing dress but she has her Dino toy and again our waiter comes and like you guys wanted a boy and it’s frustrating and I was so offended and it’s annoying the gender roles like a girl shouldnt wear blue or play with boy toy when it’s nothing don’t get me wrong she know she a girl but toys clothes everything she can wear but I don’t say oh that’s for boys or that’s for girls because I don’t feel clothing or toys should be gendered it’s hard to explain but hope someone can understand.

My parents raised me like this too and looking back I appreciate the freedom they gave me to decide what I wore and what I played with. I think it was also because I was the only girl out of all my cousins on my mum's side so that helped with maintaining gender inclusive norms and forming my own gender expression

@@brandytuggle5374 My parents told me similar things when I was little. I loved dinosaurs, climbing trees, wearing a suit and tie just like my dad, and hated dresses(like I would throw fits if my mom tried to put me in one so eventually she just gave up), and most stereotypical girl things except my favourite colours are pink and green. My parents said they got similar comments when I would wear a suit or play with dinos, but they just let me be whatever I wanted. Now I'm just a cis girl that wears dresses on VERY special occasions and still loves dinos. Liking stereotypical "boy" or "girl" things doesn't make it ur gender, it's what u feel inside. I wish more people would understand that and let kids be and do whatever they want.

Maya Cajchun exactly I would climb trees play with the boys ruff house have fun but I was called a Tomboy I hated earrings but my favorite color was green and purple people always have somthing to say but I was glad my parent let me have what ever I liked to play with baby doll to army men toys and I’m fine

In the video the dad explains exactly why we should not force pronouns on kids

Emmanuelle Brin-Delisle its not forcing. Their job as parents is to accept and support their child through everything. Theres no problem with gender itself as long as the stereotypes aren’t being put upon the kid.

@@choubidouwah No matter what they're forcing pronouns on their kid. The mom literally said "They use they/them pronouns" and I doubt that was Grey's choice

Puck but their approach to the kid is really neutral, which wouldn’t be the case if they used she or he (as explained in the video, people change their manners whether the kid is a girl or a boy, which is not the case if the kid doesn’t have a gender based pronoun). English isn’t my first language so I’m sorry if my explanation isn’t that good

@@choubidouwah There's also a bias towards those who are non-binary. Every single person they told had some sort of reaction. When they start putting Grey through schooling Grey will be treated differently than both the boys and girls because of them being non-binary

Yay! I wasn't the only one that noticed that!

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Agreed. I thought she was the only sensible person and I was glad to see her speak her mind

No, she wouldn't be in this video if she just let it become.

what about in the middle east

What???? The west is the least gendered part of the world by far

That's because too many people in America have lost their minds and are not wise. Why should a parent deny the child what is rightfully theirs? I would be very angry at my parents had they done to me what these "parents" are doing to that child. You don't place your ideology or agenda before the good of your child.

patatedouce bb they mean the west focuses the most on gender/lack of it.

@@roshna8971 I understand what they mean and I completely disagree

@babyfaced bella. You're telling a kid "You're nonbinary" which is exactly the same thing as telling a kid "You're a girl" or "Youre a boy". It's just a long way around and doesn't solve the problem they're trying to solve. You can let a boy wear dresses and still call him a boy.

Blue Turtle is it wrong to raise a child without religion? Is not having a religion actually a type of religion? These parents are no telling they’re kid “you are non-binary” they’re saying genders are constructed and we refuse to Impose the trappings of gender on you. When you want to explore gender we support you. And when your gender becomes clear to you, we support you then too. Is there potential for something to “go wrong” with that? Sure. That potentiality is built into almost every parenting decision though; I don’t see how you could call this crazy in good faith.

Gender is 'observed' at birth, not 'assigned. Don't buy into the jargon.

@@PSNragglefraggle1 how do you observe a baby's gender when they are born?

@@babypuppykitty ... W... With your eyes..?!

What does what you wear have to do with your gender? He can be a boy and do, wear or play with what he wants? They're still just making him be non binary. He'll only be confused when he's older.

Irrelevance hence asking questions

Yes thank you for saying this, the parents' intentions flew over everyone head

@@youngcuba12How is that meant to help? These are questions hardly any child has to make. You have to understand gender dysphoria occurs to a minority. The majority of children or adults will not want to change gender or be non binary ever. It doesn't occur to them at all for their gender to be a 'decision'. Most people are fine with their AABG, and those who are not have gender dysphoria. By holding this decision over his head is just going to add pressure, especially as he interacts with other children. They're just handing gender dysphoria to him by removing his own gender for him.

Irrelevance Well how you dress does have more to do with gender then most people think being boys don’t normally wear dresses at all that young it does have something to do with it. They are kinda just bringing the child up without the gender stereotypes. A lot of parents say boys can’t wear dress and can’t play with dolls and girls can’t play with toys normally associated with boys. Most parents won’t buy certain gender children certain toys since it isn’t “normal” unless they have an older sibling of the opposite gender.

Jessica Bullock exactly. All this controversy and hate can be avoided if they just didnt enforce gender stereotypes. It doesnt make any sense to me to forcefully put a child in a position where they lose a huge part of their identity.

That should be criticized and condem too

No this is child abuse

Marielis Roberti yeah, condemn too

Wait which video documentary is out there teaching kids to spit on other races?

We're here for this topic don't mix appels and oranges

Nah, raising your child with gender a that they do not identify as confuses them

the problem with raising the child as what gender they are assigned at birth is that that will be the one they are most comfortable with. So if you give the child the option to choose of course the will pick the one they were taught and raised as, therefore conforming to the ides of gender. The child in this documentary is given many choices. They are provided with both stereotypical male and females clothes and having the option to pick whichever they want. When the child becomes older and understands gender and how it works in society, both will be comfortably to them. Or maybe they will choose to be non-binary because that is also what’s comfortable. By raising the child the way these parents are is giving the kid freedom and choice to choose who they want to be instead of having labels forced onto them.

@@raeganlarson 👏👏👏

That and the child now has no concept of gender so when the daunting question is raised 'which gender does he chose?' he just will not know the answer. He doesn't know what gender is he was raised absent of it. He just won't know or make the decision a lot older than 'when he can talk' like what people are saying.

How about you raise them neutral until they choose what they feel like being and how to express it? When you do the opposite, there is more of a chance of struggles, having been considered under certain gender biases and having to switch is not as easy as it might sound.

Exactly what I was thinking

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Like everyone else does

That's a biological development, not a social one therefore there's no controversy

@@MelvinGundlach except everyone else raises their children as their birth assigned gender.

yep

why didnt they let the child choose its name?

I like how Mom fights for they- them pronounce and kid is just having fun 😂

I agree, I like the way you put it

I guess, but the child might just not have a full understanding of either gender since they've never really experienced them other than physically. Therefore this child might just grow up confused. This is just conditioning and confusing for the child.

Everyone is saving how this is confusing for grey, but I think people really need to realize how resilient children are. Grey will be just fine!

@@elenagibbons4719 I'm not talking about now. As a teenager and adult.

@@misakiyui942 But by that time Grey will know what they are

100% . . . there's always time for conversation when they get a little older

No wrong if there a boy they get car toys and if there a girl they play with barbies period this is nonsense BS.

100%

@Dianna Gummy_Star you go girl!

I agree with this!

inevitably it will

Gabriella Cariddo why do you think it’s cruel?

*them, they literally said in the video that their pronouns are they/them...

They/them... This pronouns are ridiculous. Its one person, unless he or she has a twin they should talk like there's only one child and not two. At least create more adequate pronouns to define it.

I feel like giving a baby both extremes isn't gender neutral. The baby hasn't developed an idea of what's considered gender neutral to them.

Yes. This is sad. This kid will get bullied hard.

Exactly. That's a big a daunting choice to make and not a choice that most people make unless they have gender dysphoria. I think this is adding additional pressure.

looking back a couple years to when i was a kid, if my parents had asked me this question, i would have answered without a second thought, randomly. I would have just chosen whatever and not thought so intensely about the decision, because as a kid i would not have known this decision was any more important than what cereal i had for breakfast. We have to remember that if you ask a child what they want to be when they grow up they will respond with something like...cupcake, princess, or astronaut, which obviously as an older person now i realize are not very realistic job options for the average person. My point is, kids don't have the mental capacity to make such a decision, simply they are not mature enough.

It's not" what you want* to be is how you feel

People have an inherent understanding of their gender identity. Raising your children so they have the opportunity to choose is important to child development.

It is a lot of pressure to have to chose your gender, so why have one at all? Why not just do things people do and if one thing you do is something "men" do and one thing "women" do so be it. The point is to not put them in a box in terms of how they are meant to act, dress etc.

Did they do this without his permission, meaning did he want to transition?

EXO -L they did it since he was a baby

History repeats itself. Humans never learn^^

@@exo-l6926 A pedo sexologist, the dude who brought us the whole concept of gender identity and gender roles, recommended to his parents a surgery for their infant son who suffered a botched circumcision. And then raising him as a girl.

@@magnusagatha The first comment made it sound as if the parents made a conscious decision to make an experiment with their child,not a mistake they thought would compensate a previous mistake...besides I thought experiments of any kind were forbidden on humans by the IACHR?

I respectfully disagree, they’re raising their kid in a safe and loving household.

@@nikamobed969 yes,as a man and a woman...and a questionmark. The baby might never be brave enough to express what it feels like,worrying how mom and dad will react IF it chooses to be exactly the gender that it is born into. Mom and dad apparently wishes it to become a non-gender type.

Oh - but they are. Every planned child is an experiment. Nobody is raised just the same, and there really are no _set_ rules for raising a child, except for the very obvious ones.

@Gracie P sure!

Lmao if there is no experiments done, we would still be living in stone age

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No, they are gender neutral, and non-binary isn’t a gender that’s why it’s called non binary because it isn’t part of a gender binary

@@makaveli5229 non binary is considered a gender identity tho ..

Same

place holder No wonder the world has become crazy with people like you in it ! I'm glad I'm in the latter half of my life and won't see the results, God forgive you !!!

Exactly!!! I’m a trans women and being raised as a boy is what made me realize I was a girl. I know if I was raised completely gender neutral I would have been confused even more and it would have taken me so much longer to realize who I am. Push the kid the right direction, if they want to go the other direction let them.

I grew up with brothers and wanted to dress up as a boy. I hated wearing dresses, I wanted to wear pants instead. I would cry and my dad would tell my. Mom let her wear what she wants. However I grew up being straight. I never questioned my sexuality either. I just wanted to dress up more boy ish than girl. I knew in kindergarten I liked boys because I had a crush on a lil boy but that's all. So yeah and I don't feel my parents forced my natural genetic gender at all.

Idk if it’s jus me but Grey sounds like some jocky wattpad original character who has daddy issues an bullies the main protagonists 😂😂

lmao it's just a name Unique names are more popular for kids their age so it shouldn't be a problem

i agree with you on the second part. LOL grey was intentional

Give them credit, at least it's a better name than most "unique" names that celebrities give their kids

the parents a very stupid

And not too many choices to not overwhelm grey

It's a Montessori thing.

Soon, there will be so many safe spaces, that 'danger' and 'uncertainty' will be defunct. Then the human race will forget how to fight, win, lose gracefully, compromise, or not, give an opinion, argue a point......we will just be all so safe. Safe and sterile....and weaker.

This is child abuse and of course they get a free pass because of their skin color smh Madness

@@ppwendypp all dressing the same, looking the same. Eating grey food and living like orwell imagined

True, I only remembered what my parents told me how and what to dress

Correct, children don't care how they dress until they eventually run into other kids at school. Children forget to comb their hair and wash their face until they grow up and see how silly they look. Children also don't pay attention to traffic laws until they're old enough to realize that they can get killed if they don't follow them. I don't see your logic.

@Flosregina u right but the world ain't ready for that discussion.

I see what you mean but I think in this situation it’s less about what the baby wants to wear and more about how others treat them and therefore how they are socialized to think and behave.

@Valentina C but they put the kid in a pink dress🤷🏽‍♀️ that will make EVERYONE think it's a girl so either way ppl will talk to the kid the way they would a "girl". I think Grey is male though.

Bruh. its not your baby stfu

No that is her opinion . This is why we keep splitting up beacuse we are not accepting one another’s opinions . Yea I get it XX heavenxx you didn’t like it but so what you didn’t like it I’m not saying you have to love it just be ok that’s your opinion and this is mine . People are going to do and say what they belive in . When I have children I’m just going to put them a girl and boy nothing wrong with it just like nothing wrong with neutral . It’s not until they grow do they understand how they really feel and if they didn’t like it well then if they had kids they won’t make that happen

@@michaelpetronzio6557 child....at the end of the day the baby isn't going to affect her lived in any way, shape or form. For her to give her negative opinions on the baby is doing nothing bur creating a negative atmosphere

xxheaveanxx but I don’t think she was trying to creating a negative way and you saying stfu will also be creating a negative way instead just say like oh I don’t belive in your opinion I think there is nothing wrong with girl or boy or being neutral nothing wrong . I was just saying that her opinion like your is it’s up to the parents but saying stfu is going to bring you negativity bc there is going to be other people who will the same to you , I just want people to realize these are people with opinions and I don’t think she was trying to hurt anyone just saying what she belives in.

At some point in your life you became comfortable with your identity as a girl, and that’s wonderful! Their parents are just waiting for that day to come for their baby, and Grey will be loved no matter what gender identity feels right to them. 💝

I know. Not knowing that information will not hurt you

At 7 months old

This is moronic. Females are girls , males are boys. It’s really not that complicated I promise

How?

Would you rather be safe than happy

How are they not safe? Of course there is more to life than happiness, but if you are safe but not happy it is really not worth anything because if you’re not happy you most likely experience negative thought that will make you do something you will regret once you ARE happy

lmaooo what?? you don’t care about your child’s happiness??? in what way is this child unsafe?

Are you drunk or?

If it's a boy, raise it as a boy if it's a girl raise it as a female. Then when they become adults and feel they should change their gender or something support then through that process and that's enough. Don't ignore gender competely because it exists and it's part of an identity.

Those stigmas are apart of people’s opinion that culture makes certain objects and activities gendered and it is important to them to uphold that because of their religion. It’s an idea that’s been prevalent in human culture for millenniums. Not my personal opinion but it’s an opinion and it offends them for you to go against it’s

@@shitocodone8940 it's not just religion, but some people in the LGBT community don't agree with this either

Dongy Sakura yeah that’s true I just gave a more generalized answer

lmao

But were you raised as a Bird Person or did you have to transition to be one?

Unfortunately when you make things public, people are going to have opinions. I don’t think it’s fair to present something to the world and then just tell everybody else to shut up about it. That’s not conducive to the conversation and just creates assumptions and more of a rift and a division. I don’t think that’s your intention, but that comment just seems divisive.

I totally agree with you! The top comments just dont get it. They aren't even trying to listen to what the parents are saying

lmao

There parents parenta are probally gping to expalin to them what "gender" is.

Good intentions is not denying reality, especially your child's wellbeing. You can't creat a reality out of your wishes, fantasies. Truth will out. It always does in the end.

@@menghic531 whatttttt???

@@bastard7821 explaining such concepts to a child without anything to relate it to doesn't sound like an easy task.

It's impossible to remove the gender-biased environment entirely since this family still lives in this very gendered society. I think you may be misunderstanding, though: this family does not know their child's gender, only their child's genital shape. They are choosing not to conflate the two and to challenge their own and other's assumptions about what (if anything) our bodies really say about who we are.

It really is sad that they would use their own child as a social experiment.

So what you are saying is they are unable to be as mental as they would like.

@@rkipphorn all parenting is an experiment

Totally agree. An example: Lego friends, becaUse girls only like to bake cakes😂

When I was little I played with both

When I was little I played with both

If they were raising the child traditionally as a girl or boy, wouldn't they be doing the same? Even more so, as these parents are literally doing this so that their child WON'T feel limited by gender norms.

@@thefrenchiestfry8147 limits are good. it's what helps us stay sane. When you have no foundation in life you don't experience a lack of anxiety. We need IDENTITY to fall back on. We need concrete evidence of who we are. When we grow up, other little decisions can be made by US because we are mature enough to make those decisions. Children NEED boundaries and guildelines