Why we need gender-neutral bathrooms | Ivan Coyote 

same

+anonymous person lol!! Sadly true

Me too!

same here

Yuntha_21 we are the same person😹

Yea just go back and put the female sign on and the male side on the other. Just in case it gets implemented in more public spaces like Starbucks or a shopping mall.

Lol, So true!

lmoa

"Get rekt sjws! Trans are oppressing us!"

+Gabriel Valle It's RU-vid comments. Don't have a high expectation of quality.

+Dead Joffrey True

+Gabriel Valle Denigrating people for their opinions by equating them to children is hardly a good look on you nor does it serve to actually make a point other than your inability to have a valid one.

+Frankey2310 Exactly... I always thought transgender was about changing gender, not inventing one...

They’re non binary

He and/or she is an idiot

@@BamBamOwO Lol how do you know that they're biologically male? And what does that have to do with their identity?

@@BamBamOwO nah that's obviously a woman, in normal times she'd just be a butch lesbian

+FREEDO Pretty spot on, this is a pretty slippery slope of a topic, but I guess some people think being selfish and self-centered is the correct way to act.

+FREEDO That last sentence wrecks most of this hyper PC bullshit

+FREEDO "safe place to pee" "Safe" safe.. You're thinking these people are selfish? It's not just about trans people being "uncomfortable" about being in a certain place, it's that people could harass you in whichever bathroom you choose.. Did you even watch it? It's even really explicitly said 2:40 - 3:36 "Then using the men's room won't be a legal option for me either" She shares the anecdote with the girl "The kids at school were harassing her when she tried to use the girl's bathroom, and the teacher had already instructed her to stay out of the boy's bathroom" Honestly I think it was a mistake by the speaker to make the relation between low self-esteem issues and trans issues.. Because there's these people that worry about not being able to go to any bathrooms, random acts of violence and hatred towards them, then there's gonna be pretty normal people like you who say it's just the same as how they have weird back hair, and 'I suck it up so they should suck it up too'.. Making too much of a connection can make people think that they -actually experience the same thing- when it's really not..

***** Grow up in a poor community (in America, not to mention a 3rd world _toilet_ [pun intended]) and realize that this "gender identity toilet issue" is a joke at worst or at best _yet another thing_ compared to everyone else's issues in the world. This is a rich white issue. AS IF, kids know the difference between "using the wrong bathroom" and "that kid is fat" -- kids are horrible regardless, I'm not debating that for a reason, I'm addressing the solution, the "we must demand individual gender-neutral stalls" _that'll fix bullying!_ no. That's a chainsaw to fix a problem fit for a scalpel. Just because something sucks, doesn't mean "something different" will indefinately be better than _what we have now_ you actually have to put your thinking cap on and weigh the options, not let immediate emotions cloud judgement. Far better to realize, _everyone_ will be bullied and your argument is that we need to _tell them_ to feel worse about it than _everybody else_. Why? To please yourself actually. Every single one of us can't fully observe the suffering of another _you are the one_ (without evidence mind you) to imply that their suffering deserves special attention above someone else's (let's not even address the fact that suffering isn't a zero sum game anyway), far better is solidarity among the human race than to pick and choose who's oppression deserves more attention. -Wait, "oppression" ? Like most SJW issues, if this your _main issue_ you're fine. Also, if private businesses want to "solve this issue" themselves, or if enough people voice this concern / market preference that companies want to bend to it - fine. I won't stop you. But don't be so selfish to demand the government flex and _force_ this concept down everyone's throat. This isn't like _blacks use separate water fountains_ there is a serious safety issue and a lot of scientific grey area on "gender identity." People have just as much right to be weirded out by trans people and trans people have the right to "identify" as whatever.

***** Can you be my mentor? In all seriousness I wish I could articulate the bullshit that is this "issue" the way you are doing right now, if I tried it would probably take me an hour just to write something like you just did.

+Cherry.Bakewell So sad they don't do already now... :( I am really shocked about the amount of hate here!

+Cherry.Bakewell Yes because this was just such a SENSATIONAL talk. It will go down in the history books as one of the defining moments of the sjw rights movement, and will be looked back upon by our descendants for decades to come. Ooooooooorrrr none of that will happen because this was pointless and kind of bullshit and no one will watch this a week after it was posted.

Patchy Ivan is not an SJW as Ivan is actually doing something, strongly believes in what they says and are talking about an issue that directly affects them. People are now using the term sjw to attack anybody who has an opinion they disagree with. Listen to others talking and be respectful. Even if they say something you disagree with instead of writing these people off as sjws.

Patchy Because people aren't allowed the ability of self-identification? Ivan wants to people to refer to them as 'them' so I will respect that and use it. It's not to be politically correct but to respect a person by fulfilling their wishes. It doesn't cause me to go out of my way, so why shouldn't I respect them?

Yep.. Imagine if we had youtube comments before black people were allowed to use "white only" bathrooms.. And some one made a video called "why we need multi-race bathrooms"... While I think this idea is extreme, because disabled bathrooms are like, everywhere, and nothing stops anyone, including trans people from using them, as far as I know.. Eventually I can see us living in a world with gender-neutral bathrooms, and I can't see it being a problem.. People are crying "OMG RAPE", but I could swear studies have shown gender neutral bathrooms are SAFER because in female-only bathrooms men can just walk in and rape everyone, with no men to help the women. /rant

why no one has to do anything, just use the bathroom

​@@seanw3792Yea and increase the chance for predators and perverts being in the same vicinity as women in a vulnerable state. Just create an alternate restroom. Why make them all gender neutral?

Sexual predators will be no more encouraged by the accommodation of trans people. You're just looking for an excuse to be hateful. Educate yourself before you open your mouth or put your fingers on a keyboard again.

+Michael Kras Hey what do you know...the straw man argument...accuse the opposition of being hateful because they don't agree with your political agenda. Lol

+Dallas Duff what political agenda? Equal rights for all humans? Wow, what's a concept. That's really gonna break the earth.

+Michael Kras A. Just because you disagree with a position doesn't mean you should misrepresent it. And B. To think this is a civil rights issue is kinda absurd. Do you honestly think I should have the civil right to use the women's restroom?

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Tomorrow on why we need towns for trans

So fucking true

I am a helicopter pls give me helipad

The fact that people don't use black salt is racist 😤

@@yellowbird5 Calm down I was joking you actually believed that

+arol veloso "single stall" does not mean shared.

+arol veloso currently, transsexual people are sometimes bullied and insulted when using regular bathrooms, or even denied from doing so. if we had gender-neutral ones, they could easily use them without any issues. thus, like it or not, that is actually true for them, while not causing any real issues for anybody else.

I don´t think that a gender neutral bathroom is the solution...

arol veloso what is the solution then? of course, you don't need to make all bathrooms gender-neutral if somehow that would cause some issues, but then you'd have to make an additional bathroom that would be gender-neutral, and most places just aren't designed for it. on the other hand, you could just "make" people not be "transphobic" and let trans people use whichever bathroom they want - i couldn't care less myself, but good luck with everyone else.

A M. that’s down to men targeting women. It’s not the fault of trans or non binary people. The solution to such problems isn’t to ignore such toxic behaviour but to punish it and discourage it. By ignoring it and saying “well it’s going to happen anyway. There’s nothing we can do” is incredibly disgusting and isn’t helping anyone. The reason it’s still happening is because people are continually allowed to get away with it so how about instead of sitting back and letting it happen we at least TRY to stop it

+Alexander Breems I think the video is about adding a different "unisex" bathroom to the already existing male and female ones... which a lot of developed countries already have...

+Alexander Breems 50 years ago, people said this about combining bathrooms for black and white people. Food for thought.

+MexicoNativeAmerican I would be willing to bet my life savings that if women were allowed to join the national football league, 1, MAYBE 2 would get signed to a team as a kicker or something, and it would be mostly as a gimmick. In fact I'm all for the Nfl doing something like that. It's not like it would change anything, since no woman would be able to handle herself in the Nfl, and it would help to shut up some stupid feminist bullshitters who think it's about sexism rather than skill, speed and strength.

+MexicoNativeAmerican - LOL let them? Ok, get 50 of the best female football players, have as many on the field as u want and I'll pick 5 guys who will beat them.

hey, I live in France and (thank god) a lot of the public restrooms are gender-neutral and I HAVE NEVER heard about someone being raped because of that, in fact, a lot of countries have gender-neutral public restrooms and it's totally fine

+Patrik Banek how do you go for 7 hours without peeing?

+havingMC By holding it in...

+havingMC You just don't.

ThatOneJay123 I know that, but at some point his body would force him or his muscles would just give up.

+havingMC Or you just have a restroom pattern like normal people...Peeing is no different than pooping. The less fluids you consume, the less you pee. If you don't drink a bunch before bed, you aren't going to have trouble not peeing for 8 hours while you sleep. Same with 7 hours at school.

+REGTON .CATS Exactly. Besides, they're just more luxurious and comfortable than stalled bathrooms.

Ever consider a thing called costs?

Paul DiBenedetto my school has seven female bathrooms and 6 male bathroom as well as 4 single stalled female and male bathrooms. It’s the same with a lot of other schools in my country. I don’t see how expensive it would be to change a sign on a door to indicate a gender neutral place to pee

Just wanted to say you're still 100% correct 3 years later

@@isaiah3872 oof. You very much so lack out of the box knowledge and understanding of gender etc

+Don Gemus Hello Rita!

How do you wipe your butt?

+Don Gemus this would totally be hilarious if trans people weren't being murdered or assaulted

+Kasey Reichelle So are non-trans people, and the T-Rex are gone already!

Don Gemus being murdered for being trans is a little bit different than your average murder. there are these things called hate crimes

InqWiper The reason is the Patriarchy right? Right?

InqWiper Wow... I didn't realize that TED had so many lunatics as subs...

So you're saying just because there are bigger issues we can't also fix the smaller ones with solutions that already exist?

Stuli THE PROBLEM IS ITS NOT A FUCKING ISSUE IT'S AN EXCUSE FOR TRANS PEOPLE TO WHINE

+Rinoa Super-Genius I have many friends facing the same issues. I hope that things swing the other direction soon.

***** lol

Thanx for saying that even with all these rude comments. I just don't understand how these people can judge when they've never been in the same situation. I have a friend going through a transition right now where they're confused about their gender identity. How can they understand how it feels when they've never been through it?

+Rinoa Super-Genius How much did TED pay you to write that?

+Rinoa Super-Genius they may be frustrating but what is frusrtaing is when a bi sexual man walks in to a restroom with the lock slipped with my legs open

+molly devlin There is plenty of Fear here.

I feel so hurt by how many people don't support this and I'm surprised that even in today's society so many people done accept it.

This is proof for you to see that you are not progressive and you don't represent change. Quite the opposite actually

Ikr transphobia is just awful

Me too, as a trans person

We allow grown men in the same bathrooms as little boys

@@tramerecornelius7569 Bruh

@@tramerecornelius7569 regardless of age, people could use gender identity as a way to sexually assault someone.

Yes, that's not fair!!

Can any bloke that walks past your house pop in to use it?

​@@mishmish9103Next these trans MEN are going to start asking for tampons. 😂👌

lmao

+Ahmad El Gebaly it is a woman in tuxedo with feminism inspired haircut

y'all are so close minded & gross

Daniela Herrera y'all liberals are too open minded your brains fell out.

+Ahmad El Gebaly That's not the problem. He/She doesn't have the capacity to think it through. Of course, that should be self evident by he/she's appearance. When you're already from the axiom of that confusion, you can't go anywhere rational.

Could you define hate speech for me please?

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+Ryan “insouciant” S. you must be new here .

the pan is big enough to fry the big fish AND the small fish

​@@22beesjustvibin67 pretty late response... but thats a real good way of explaining it, was that just your idea or did you hear it from someone else?

Lmao nah. This is a big issue. Plus u can have multiple big issues. Man u conservatives are brain dead and stupid

Thats a good idea because sometimes they are many men in the line and sometimes there are many women in line that way they can use all the available toilets

Like seriously, most places I go to with that much demand primarily smell of human impatience .. want to get in, do the business and get out as soon as possible.

@@MsPlastina1 true haha…I think everyone will use it 🤣🤣🤣

Well, that idea just passed at a school 8 years later.

+Beppe In many places, it's just handicapped stalls WITHIN the gendered bathrooms. They aren't an entirely separate room from gendered bathrooms.

QueenPikmin Considering the percentage of handicapped people, that makes less than little sense but okay. Not where I live and travel though!

+QueenPikmin I'll be honest: I'm no spring chicken and I have NEVER seen a gendered handicap bathroom. Guess that's what happens when you live outside of the US, logic.

+QueenPikmin So handicapped people who may barely be able to move can manage using a normal bathroom but trans people can't? You're really making them look ridiculously pathetic. It's all about the "need" is her talk. We don't *need* it. People are free to add gender-neutral bathrooms as it is. It's up to whoever owns the place. Unisex toilets do exist after all. It's not something she just invented on stage. If you wanted to make a trans-specific bathroom that might be used what.. twice a week? And that's something we *need*? Just, no.

Dude. Dude. Some trans people are in a state of transition, and look neither male nor female. Some will forever have deep/high voices that 'out' them as trans. Some states in the US have laws that make it infinitely more difficult for them to enter either bathroom without getting yelled at. There are unisex bathrooms designed for the disabled that are separate from both male and female bathrooms. Just slap on a label saying those are small single-stall rooms are unisex, family, and disabled. Then you get trans people using them, people who have barely started their transition, single parents with children of the same/opposite gender, and people with mobility problems. Get a bunch of use out of them. It definitely isn't something new, but as it is, the current setup most places have with only two options (men's/women's restrooms), makes it difficult for all people I just listed. Sometimes, even people with mobility issues have trouble getting past a line of desperate people just so they can reach the one accessible stall at the very back of the restroom. Everyone needs a safe place to pee.

gud idea mang

Costs?

The Truth because if she uses the men’s bathroom then there’s a risk she could get beaten up

True, not only is she selfish, she is ORGANIC!! 😊

This trans person’s name is Ivan

@@Cat-gj5yg Correct and they introduced themselves as a transperson so I was respecting that and using that to identify them

Sorry it has taken 7 years for you to get an answer here. Listen through the part at 2:40 again. Ivan looks enough like a man that they often use men's restrooms. However, Ivan reveals they were assigned female at birth. They were raised to be a woman, and transitioned away from that. Ivan is neither a man nor a woman, and they are explicitly asking for bathrooms and especially changing rooms that are gender neutral. I didn't hear them express a desire to use women's rooms. Around 3:15 they state in places with a bathroom bill they are being told they belong in the women's restroom. However, they have been violently attacked for using women's rooms in the past because they don't look like a woman. Another thing that seems to be throwing you off is the idea that transgender people all want the same thing. Inclusive restrooms are undeniably a popular idea, but Ivan can't speak for all of us. We all have different needs and priorities. If you are looking for more immediate action, one thing that could help in the meantime while we have these separate restrooms is just more tolerance. Women's restrooms and locker rooms are a place of unnecessary hyper vigilance. Even cisgender women have been harassed in them for looking too masculine. Sorting people by their genitalia doesn't eliminate danger, we need people to let go of that myth. It doesn't affect you if someone who looks different is pooping next to you. If no one policed the gender presentation of the people sharing public space, we wouldn't have this issue.

mine is restored

+ADUSEI6111 Indeed, it is refreshing to see so many stand against the lunacy of the left.

Don't worry, I carry the beacon of hope; we will prevail.

+Remy Lebeau Left wing politics? What's that brainwashing song again? The one that the schools force people to sing? For liberty and justice for *ALL*. Unless of course me being a democrat completely undermines my argument for you.

Universal Catastrophe So because of something mentioned in the pledge of allegiance, it isn't a "left wing politics" issue to try and force society to change? Your lack of a clear argument undermines you just fine. I created a pledge of resistance in honor of the ruin brought to the USA thanks to the neo-cons and liberals. "I pledge resistance to the gulag of the Divided states of America, and to the police state for which it stands, no nation, not under God, severable, with no liberty or justice for all."

+Dan Ingram haha not quite my friend, but good try

I love ted talks and im open to watching any topic they engage in that isn't technology, science, education; religion, sexuality, lifestyles in general, but i think theres a general consensus that the majority of content should be the previously mentioned, science,technology, education, engineering etc...

@Martin Ramos how was this person being racist?

@@Jackraiden500 Can I just say it's rare to find three Martins at once?

@@isaiah3872 sure you can say it lol

+DarkPulsarDragon28 Pumpstation

+Usman Ali Some people identify as neither, and/or use the pronouns they/them.

+Bum WentzUrieAllen Genderfluidity has no basis in scientific fact though. Gender dysphoria is a proven medical condition. I know of no definitive research that suggests that gender can vary as time goes on.

exactly ..i could not agree more !!!

It's called a family bathroom.

Monia Monika Why are we spending so much money on Bathrooms? Let’s actually focus on REAL problems. “They don’t feel comfortable using the bathroom”. Grow up snowflake this is the REAL world.

I agree with you 💪

One joke. Let me know when decades of medical research on dog people exists and it stops being an overused joke.

+Ryan Hunter Cancer

+Indal Is it SJW?

Ryan Hunter Probably but i cant be 100% sure.In Anita's video the comments and likes are disabled,so i guess they have infiltrated TED as well.

+Ryan Hunter This is Tedx, basically anyone can get a Tedx speech, I think you can pay to have one.

sold out for donations

I can't imagine how can someone be blinded to such an extent as you are...

+He Who Judges Who are you to jud- Oh I see..

+Bridget More You guessed wrong, it is normal average Joes and Janes that dislike this garbage... You are the special snowflake here...

Isaac Morph Never shall you doubt.

+Bridget More they are producing awful content.

Lol you think it’s gonna be PRIVATE??? HAHAH

Your brain needed some fixing

+ToroMoto Checking the most popular ted videos on youtube. One is about "power posing" body language, another about some awful magician, another about an underwear model. This at least is about a serious issue of how to design public spaces for the future. It's actually one of the better talks.

Gender neutral bathrooms are not only a trans issue. It is also misandry issue.

man trees talks

The problem is actually the solution! Love it.

and because not everyone is like you is the exact reason we shouldn't be altering society on such a extreme level because .01% people would have it a little easier. maybe we can focus on child soldiers, prescription painkiller epidemic, poverty.

+Pirimausili Cocolino I agree that people don't decide what gender they have, but what they want to have is definitely their decision, at least for people of science who can think logically. I think we have more pressing matters in the world that TED should, in my opinion, focus on.

+battlehardened37 I 100% agree. These trans people need to get over the fact that they chose to be the way they are and us other people don't need to be involved and exposed in their petty problems, like this video.

So so true. Words from a wise person

battlehardened37 This is a f RU-vid channel and not a politician (yes, it's not a person) and I believe it's extremely important that issues of this nature get more attention. As one can see... *comments*

If that were the case, most men would pee all over the tiolet seat and women would have to clean that up everytime they sit down. Do you put the toilet seat up? I bet you don't.

@@ll-js7iq That problem is more so a problem with public restrooms in general being unsanitary.

@@ll-js7iq I put the toilet seat up. Actually I don't pee standing up LMAO why do men do that? so disgusting. If the toilet is too gross to sit on, I just hover over it.

@@ll-js7iq Way to gender stereotype, bigot.

@@ll-js7iq Women vote for "gender neutral bathrooms." If such a thing comes to be the norm, I promise you myself and many other men will absolutely destroy every toilet we can to spite you, just because you voted for such a disgusting thing. Do not play this game with us.

+unbr34k4bl3 She was bullied out of the boy's bathroom. Why not use the girls bathroom?

+Rum Dreg she was bullied out of the one and told not to go in the other, leaving none

unbr34k4bl3 oh, missed that part.

+DarkPulsarDragon28 replace "waste" with "spend" then yes. Yeah, they are the minority. But we have an obligation to not just cater to the majority in a society. Let me illustrate with an example: Let's say we have segregated bathrooms. Black people are around 25% of the population? (a minority for sure) So somebody says: let's have more inclusive bathrooms for everybody, black and white, because black people have so few of them that it is a problem. Maybe there isn't even a law against black people using "white" bathrooms but people are harrasing them so they cannot get in. Now somebody says "we need to waste taxpayer money to be more inclusive, even though it affects only the minority?" Well, I would say "yes, we do". Why do you think this is different than not having "white only" bathrooms? For me it's about being inclusive to everybody and having bathrooms that are literally for EVERYBODY, nobody can be bullied out.

@KebenaranBukanMilikAndaAtaupunSaya of course not

+pyr666 The media uses news the same way commercial television uses shows, to lure you in and listen to their propaganda/commercials. I have a hard time finding news outlets that exist for the sake of informing the public.

and modern new media is garbage. what's your point?

+pyr666 imo it belongs to education and the design of new buildings with gender neutral toilets

It belongs to Educational

Lol

Types of people defending this view on toilets: Fans of the playground.

disliked*

How?

+Video Upload People are looking for actual educational content, not some SJW rant about some made up issues.

+Video Upload Now that is a solid and logical argument. I like the part where you said "clearly".

I guess they reacted following their gut feeling and did not even hear her/him out. I also jumped to conclusions first, but you shall never judge someone just because you don't like the topic instinctively.,You have to hear what someone has to say and give yourself the option to chamge your mind.

There was literally a situation where a man that identified as a woman raped a woman in a gender neutral bathroom, this is outrageous

@@dyamifox6595 that's an extremely rare case, I never see this in the news.

They are undair to women

It's dangerous

Can't even take the slightest chance of anything bad

Yeah I feel the same way. I could never use a public bathroom if their were only gender neutral bathrooms. I'd feel so uncomfortable. And I bet younger girls would feel even more frightened.

+Lyssa Lou But that's not the idea here... Did u watch the whole thing?

+Twofacesman yeah I have but the purpose is the same it's gender neutral bathrooms so even with a well written speech it stays the same

Of "a southpark"

Yeah, southpark are known to be bigoted.

Right?

What else would anyone expect from a transgender person to talk about. This is what narcissistic alphas do all day long. Do everything they can to come with a topic that they can create with the objective of being the CENTER OF ATTRACTION. Now come up with an idea that involves giving the government another reason to increase taxes .....for something so unnecessary and completely useless. I wonder if whoever is sitting in the audience has been paid to sit there .......otherwise .......WHAT A PILE OF CROCK!!!!!!!!!! This is the kind of RU-vid video that clearly shows that RU-vid made a huge mistake by turning off the "thumbs-down" icon. I just don't get this CENSORSHIP move. .

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+He Who Judges *he

+He Who Judges I believe Ivan identifies as "they"; They were born a woman, but do not choose to use male/female pronouns to identify themselves.

I agree with you. They need to be treaten as everyone else is. They have to be treaten fair, so hopefully all of those mercyless opponents finally shut there mouth and accept transgenders completly

+Nicolas Young she* you disgusting degenerates... That person is a female no matter how immersed you are all in that bullshit fantasy of yours.

+Tyler Resto Thank you

Thanks. :) I really needed that.

I'm with you guys too.

it's called special treatment

Syntax! It's called trying to regain the rights that have been taken in the first place.

+Wolfgrin This.

+Wolfgrin Thank you.

that's the way of thinking that we need bro...

Ironic how gender neutral is also a label.....

People in this country are complaining about wanting third bathrooms when people in other parts of the world don't even have one bathroom. What's heartbreaking is that counting your blessings isn't a thing anymore.

+Terry H. Well a lot of it is because of the utter disappointment in the recent quality of the content and not that a lot of people necessarily are against what she or whatever says. We have grown accustoms to some real amazing content over the years and this is truly subpar on every level.

Jacob Hansen Stop trolling you idiot.

+Terry H. Not the ratio, because there are many possibilities why somebody dislikes. You can dislike the person or what he suggests as a solution to a problem for example. I don't think neutral bathrooms are a good idea, but I can see and acept the problem and would hope for a feasible solution to it.

+OriginalMindTrick Yeah well, this is an important issue to me. Trans issues deserve a voice on Ted as well. You might be right that the quality in general is dropping, but too many people are equating trans voices, or other minorities, to a drop of quality. If you read these comments, there is many transphobic people. Many might just be concerned about Ted's recent quality, but the vocal minority, it seems, either are transphobic or don't give a care about trans issues.

+Hachimitsu Usagi Why is it so important to you that other people conform to what you think is normal? Get on with your own life and let people be whatever they want. There is no right way to be, we're all just groups of cells wandering about. Why make life harder for people than it needs to be? The people who need help are those who need to impose their beliefs onto others.

Exactly. Is she wants to be a man then why not just go into the men's restroom & use the cubicle instead of a urinal. This is a complete non issue.

+DSD Movies Majority rules. That's how it works. I don't cater to special interest groups.

+Xander Crews Good thing I don't care about being PC. I'll happily discuss this nonsense.

For good reason

Sad to see that the majority of people thinks backwards.

Gender neutral restrooms are UNFAIR!!! even if they have only 1 toilet i them. Srill VERY DANGEROUS!!!

It's a she.

Lol, good one.

+geordi rendum i laugh lol

+Cur Newb I am happy if you fight to end transphobia! Until you succeed I'll still be looking out for the gender neutral bathrooms though....

"Non binary" does not exist.

unbr34k4bl3 Well it would simply be logical to say that cissexual people would feel uncomfortable in gender-neutral bathrooms - it's a simple deduction from the original problem presented in this video. Here's a situation: An old woman is exiting a stall in the lady's room and sees someone she deems to be a man. The woman feels uncomfortable being around a man to the point that she tells security about the issue. Clearly, this cissexual person does not feel uncomfortable being around the man, which would happen in gender-neutral bathrooms. Of course, this is not an isolated incident, and the genders would mix fairly often.

+Obama Bin Laden I don't see how somebody would feel uncomfortable if there is stalls. It's not a deduction from the original problem. See, there is a stigma for people percieved as men (say a trans woman) to go in the ladies bathroom. Not the stalls, but the area before that, where you can wash your hands and access the stalls. So it's not "it's uncomfortable for one group or the other" as you seem to imply. It's widely different since in a gender-neutral bathroom everybody would be welcome, but right now there is a stigma for certain people to access either. It's not about feelings of the individual but about the treatment by others. If it were just trans people feeling uncomfortable, I would be right with you. But since we categorize so strongly, that leaves just no place for them and that leads to exclusion (in that case exclusion from bathrooms, which is rather bad), just as he described has happened to the little girl.

unbr34k4bl3 So your logic here is that you don't understand why they would feel uncomfortable, therefore people shouldn't feel uncomfortable. Perhaps you would be perfectly fine with penning men and women together, and you would feel completely safe in that process. Of course, that is a person-to-person issue, and if you ask many women that same question, they would not want to be forced to go to the bathroom amongst men. So yes, in a gender-neutral bathroom, everybody would be allowed equally, but that would not change the fact that many more people would be uncomfortable in this situation than one where genders are split up.

+Obama Bin Laden If it turns out people are that uncomfortable with gender-neutral bathrooms, just get a small extra one (like the disabled ones) that everybody can use. And yes, that would cost a bit of money, but it's not like ONLY the ~1% can use it. Since anybody can use it, it's just an extra stall. I'm not arguing that THIS is the solution, I'm just saying there are solutions were everybody is happy if we think about this properly. Rights aren't a zero-sum game, if you give rights to 1 group it doesn't have to take those rights from another.

Trans people are normal people...

+FinaleCadence Up you go!

He's not gay he's a lesbian. Only gay know how to dress.

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*_they_* are not a boy or an it or a lesbian. *_they_* are gender non conforming

oversized jacket gang

You guys need Jesus

Do you realize how much this would cost?

+Bert M Of course, what they go through doesn't matter, and every single dime on this earth is spended EXACTLY the way it should be, and MONEY is the more important issue. While we're at it, how about we remove the funding to make buildings wheel-chair accessible? Not everyone uses a wheel-chair after all. Same is true for facilities that help blind people.

Jacob Hansen No, just because there are similarities between diffferent groups of people, doesn't mean they're identical. Stupid straw-mans won't make you look smart.

sina chiniforoush So why do you compare them to the handicapped?

Jacob Hansen Because it's a very relevant comparison, both are minority groups that are in need of certain things, yet one group's needs are seen as "too much".

+Kasey Reichelle In the past the psychiatric and medical community used to castrate homosexuals to cure them. You'll forgive me if I don't give a lot of weight to what's in this week's copy of the DSMR.

Mat Broomfield by this logic, you can give literally nothing any weight due to society's past decisions as a whole, and you base your morals and judgement upon your extremely tiny, limited worldview. your argument is garbage. you're garbage.

+Kasey Reichelle Thank you for that insightful assessment little girl. Come back when you've grown up enough for an adult conversation.

Mat Broomfield I am neither female, nor a minor. Your arguments haven't made any logical sense, maybe you should come back when you can base your viewpoint in reality?