Walter Röhrl was definitely THE MAN! Pity the S1 only won 1 WRC rally and that was beating Salonen after he'd already clinched the title. It was actually is a different weight class to the other GpB cars. To see that S1 understeer all over the road with it's locked center diff, Röhrl was the only one who could handle it!
It only shows Walter Rohrl driving because it's all from the San Remo Rally 1985 which was the only time the S1 won a WRC rally. Best sounding car in the world though!!
Thats crazzy ,there is a old vhs video i see it years ago called ( when thay were fast.) its shows this audi rally car on tar burn all for tires up the road for 200 meters through a series of bends on to a straight. havent see it on youtube yet !
watch sequence from bout 15 secs 2 bout 32 secs, walter arrives on the gravel right hander on wot looks like full right lock, the car is still travelling in a straight line, course with his talent he balances throttle & breaks 2 make it turn in, then on the tarmac sequence Walter swings the car right 2 cause a pendulum 2 turn left, normally dat wud cause oversteer, but the big Audi still understeers b4 it reaches the gravel section, 2 instances r mostly due 2 engine layout & slows the car down
Well think about it, altho audi moved the radiators etc to the back that big lump of an engine in the front made the car difficult to manage especially on tight corners, the car had to enter tight corners slower than say a T16/S4, Also as u say more stable = easier to manage which would certainly makes it quicker, less tendency to understeer makes it quicker also, all rally drivers use left foot breaking now, but in the Audi u just had to or it would not turn in.
You're absolutely right, but dont forget they ran 1 extra year (1986) than the S1. All these Groub B cars were beautiful machines, but i sing my praises to the Quattro for the factories refusal to place the engine in the middle and still make the car competetive, cand u imagine a mid engined S1!!!!.....man that would have been quick.
I think you forget 1 important fact, the S1 had a torsen split diff which spread the power, but the disavantage it had on tarmac was mostly down to engine layout (front) which made it nose heavy with a tendency to understeer, not forgetting the massive power it had with drive trains that could not manage this much power. The 1985 s1 beat the t16 both on tarmac and loose surface.
You are looking at it the wrong way, the s1 was still developing and was dogged by various problems, 2wards the end of 85 was begining to be competitive, it actually lead 2 or three rallies b4 succoming to problems. Also the s1 had a torsen diff it was not locked and trust me 86 would have been a return to winning ways.
Is it not amazing, you can hear that SAME 5 pot sound on so many modified audi s2's, 80quattros and various other models, but it doesnt quite have that spine tingling feeling unless you hear it in the S1/Sport Quattro bodywork, or is ir just me?
Wrong. they tried to make the Gallardo sound like a real racecar, so they tried to make it sound like the Audi Quattro S1 ! But a Quattro S1 would eat any Gallardo for breakfast, even today.
Monster power at one of its best. Its really to bad, dumb fucking spectators couldn't stop from making themselves HUGE targets on the sides of the roads. We would still have group B if it wasn't for those spectators. Some common sense would have been a great help to the sport. BTW: R.I.P Colin and little son Johnny, we all miss you guys daily. To Colins wife(Alison), I am greatly sorry for your massive loss. God be with you.
i heard a lot about this. this rally group was prohibited bacause of average 600hp strong engines and got damn weak safety.that group includes also peugeot 205 s16 with 500hp and it was called living bullet.. today´s WRC cars has maximum 300hp. more is not alowed. respect to those past drivers !!! many of them are laying in their graves.. r.i.p. guys
correct...only the cars are "dead", because they were banned :(. there were tragic accidents, indeed, but roehrl, vatanen, ragnotti, allen, blomqvist, biasion, mikkola and lots more are still alive. at theyr 60's, but alive...betteglia, toivonen and a few others lie dead, god rest their souls...
The basic sound of the Quattro is nothing to do with tuning or what power: a basic non-turbo Audi 2.1 Coupe from the early 80s, although a making fraction of the volume, had the same basic sound. VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK indeed...
I said best rallycar, not most succesfull rally car. The Integralle is one mith too, but the sound and the power of the audi... Well, both are miths of rally, but in different times. Sorry for my english. Bye ;)
Not really. Just before the banning in 86' the audi's last manufactured S1 was 630hp. I'd rather be in a 630hp S1 than a 1000hp bugatti any day anyhow. That sound is just mesmerizing.
best thing Audi ever made! As the group b died the Quattro thinking died! p.s. I would never let a 500 and more hp car rush along me that close like these spectators
Das ist so wahr ich liebe Audi, Ich besitze ein 1988 Audi 80 quattro mit einem Euro-spec 5-Zylinder 2,6 L Turbo das ist meine Lieblings-Auto überhaupt. AUDI FOREVER
