RAMATTRAS ABILITIES ARE COMEPLETELY BROKEN!!! Overwatch 2 Developer Update 

Who could’ve imagined new character will be busted

If the pierce with punches is too overpowered they could make the damage drop depending on how many targets it travels through. A shield could also be considered a target so it doesn’t make shields useless. Or not.

I think the "increased damage from headshots" thing is just to differentiate from certain other projectile weapons, like Pharah's, which don't do critical damage.

important to note that his shield has a 15 second cooldown, so depending on it's duration it may not be up nearly as often as other barriers like sigma's or winston's

His Omnic form primary fire is described as having a "slow travel time," but the projectiles seem almost as fast as hitscan. _Way_ faster than Orisa's primary fire, at least. Is it just me?

I don't mind tanks having many abilities and powers. But what it does create is the massive gap in others who have far less abilities to contend with such a monster

Dev : This ability damages, slows and pulls enemies downward. Flats 3 seconds later when he watches the ability slow someone : OMG IT SLOWS TOO? AND IT DOES DAMAGE? Yeah my man that's what the dev just said 2 seconds earlier

On Zen, it took 7 nanites before it reached him, so firing for 27 means 20 hit. 10 damage per crit would be the magic number

Ramattra Ult (50% reduced enemy damage) + Block (probably 80% reduced damage) = Free Overtime win every time. Man is a living immortality field.

Ramattra looks like a boss character that never got nerfed. It looks like he can solo the entire team

"Ramattra is our first tempo tank" Hammond:🐹

ah yes an ult to use when ever the game enters overtime. using that ult during overtime means that they have no choice to run away from his ult, bc its literally overtime they have to kill him. which is kinda hard especially when you combine the 50% less damage with the block. meaning you have to look at him as his whole team kills you and hes just sitting there blocking. i actually cant wait for this this sounds so funny. (also people saying that others can win OT, i forgot to mention that too. its just funny to me that the ult is literally infinite as long as you are next to the enemy, adding on to the list of ways to tilt the enemy.) edit: lol overwatch stated that the 50% thing was a mistake on there part.

Why are they so scared to give us actual numbers for damage

Vortex + Ashe’s dynamite + Sojourn disruptor shot + Ana’s bio grenade = Vortex of chaos

I think he mentioned the fact it does headshot damage because other stream abilities with 100 ammo like mei's frost gun or zarya's beam do not.

I think him having a big weak spot on his back in nemesis would be cool.

Dev: His vortex ability deals damage and slow enemies Flats 30 seconds later: Holy shit does it slow them down and deal damage

The ult is gonna definitely be basically a Overtime winner, depending on how long the initial timer is. If the timer without doing damage isn't crazy then that does leave some room to get out but still contest but I feel like it'll just barely be enough

I think calling Ramattra a Stance Tank would be more accurate. He’s able to change his kit on a dime, and each kit is better for different situations.

some maths ive done watching this NORMAL FORM: HP:450 ARMOR:0 DPS Primary: abt 90-100 HS mult: 2-2.5X No dmg fall off proj speed= ~100m/s(jujding on spacing and time taken to do the dmg to RH(20meteres/0.2seconds))(10m/s faster then zen orb) BARRIER: HP:1k lasts: 4 seconds possibly more CD:15 but starts on deploy "TRANSFORM" CD:8 seconds LASTS:8seconds NEMESIS: HP:450 Armour:150 PUNCH: ~100-120dmg persecond + pierce Distance: 10M CANT BLOCK SIze: abt 3m?!? cant judge fully BLOCK: 80%* (not 100% certain if its exactly 80% as im not certain if all of rh pellets hit him) CD: whats that dosent exist Duration: as above only front side dmg block *but devs said it protects against dragon fully and torbs molted core? (possibly sigma flux?!?) RAVENOUS VORTEX: Pulls enemy down + slows (abt 30%-40%) dmg abt 10 per second Lasts: 3 seconds CD: UNCLEAR ULTIMATE ANNIHILATION dmg:30DMG/ Second DURATION: (initatal time isnt clear but its indefinte as long are enemies are in the area) DMG REDUCTION: 50% + possibly 30% from armour (unclear if it stacks but prob does) PRICE: 1666(1700?) (same as dragon strike meteor stirke and sym wall?!?) DICLAIMER: take this with a grain of salt numbers can be reduced increased if devs stop smocking the green and figure out hey HES BUSTED (so dont quote me on release date)

Tempo Tank is being correctly used by them. Only Bastion and Ramattra are transforming heroes that have true fixed tempo in their kit. Many aspects of their kit change once they use that ability. They go into a passive mode and then into an aggressive one. Meanwhile for the rest of the tanks its not so fixed as they do it out of rhythm. It is more of an adaptive/reaction thing, and not a fixed tempo. I don't see Rein putting up his shield and waiting on a cd to run out to then drop the shield. Its fluid and depends on the fight.

There was really no reason to play doomfist before, but now this hero is just giving him more of a reason to never be played

Observation I've made thanks to the trailer and dev updates: Hog (700 HP) died in 12 punches, meaning a pummel probably does 60 damage. In the clip with rein holding his shield with Kiriko and Ashe behind him we can pretty much see the range since the first fist doesn't hit kiriko. It's quite good but not outrageous. In a clip in the gameplay trailer where he unleashes his ULT, rein holds up his shield and doesn't seem to have the lil beam connected, so it seems to be blockable by shields.

The new DPS hero looks amazing, I wonder when they'll actually show us the tank hero though.

Snare is worrying because with sojourn it basically cuts off a huge amount of distance if done well together. Basically massive area denial, so I hope something comes to push through that more than just Kiriko's invuln and baps invuln and heal.

Going to be interesting to see if the block blocks sleep dart or if doomfist is just cursed.

Blizz devs: this is our first tempo tank! He can change forms! Ball: AM I A JOKE TO YOU!?

They didn't mention Zarya's bubble being one of the barriers that can be penetrated, so I'm wondering if Zarya's going to be one of the tanks used more often to deal with this kind of monstrosity. It would make sense given her sour relationship with omnics.

Does this mean 2 remattras ulting withing range of each other while constantly healed by their allies could make an overtime timer last indefinitely?

My only gripe is that nemesis form punch has way to much range, I think it needs to be brought in to make home feel like a melee form

15 second cooldown on the shield is the only glimmering ray of hope I see in this in terms of balancing. With that long a cooldown you definitely need to think about its placement somewhat. And it's not so big that it could block a dva bomb from any angle for example. Nemesis form also looks huge with its hitbox so he's going to be very easy to hit at least. His head especially looks pretty easy to hit from both the front and the sides of him as seen at 4:20 He's probably still going to be broken as hell but I do look forward to hearing all the voice lines and interactions with other heroes. I especially hope that the "Suffer, as I have!" ult voiceline is delivered well.

overwatch devs: we want to move away from hard counters Same devs: *showing ramattra being the absolute counter to shield characters*

I like how rammatra's animations look more fluid and interactive. I feel that characters doing alot more on my screen make me feel like I'm doing more than just pecking at people from 2 years away.

I think what they coulda meant by it does extraa damage with headshots is because other beam weapons dont do headshot dmg and this could be seen as a projectile like beam weapon so i think they were just clarifying its not like zarya or symm primary, after checking and it would probably be alot closer to mei primary so thats probably what they are clarifying that it can crit.

I think what he means with "It does increased damage with headshots" is that he doesn't want to confuse players who might think it's a beam type weapon like Symmetra and Zarya who can't headshot.

What a surprise that the first character that you have to either pay for or grind hours upon hours is the most busted character they've added

i love the fact, that the new char will be busted and meta defining for at least two weeks and you have to buy the bettlepass to get him

I believe that the distinction of his primary fire dealing more damage to headshots is to distinguish it from his melee primary fire which does not seem to be able to headshot, and it is worded that way to prevent confusion when viewed in isolation. In the broader context of overwatch it doesnt quite read that way, but i think that was the intention behind that particular distinction

based on my back of the hand estimation: Staff: 150-160dps body w 2x hs multiplier Punch - 1 punch every 0.6s at 60dmg per Ult - not really sure bc they didnt show health bars but the dmg seems low, ~30dps maybe **edit - his E ability does damage, the killfeed (which you can't see in this bc of the facecam) credits the kill on the mercy at 5:13 to that ability

They said his ult could be LOS'd. I wonder if rein can block it with his shield. In regards to his punches going through barriers, if he did less damage to armor, on top of the damage reduction armor already gives, it will be fine.

Flats trying not to mald over improper dev term usage challenge (impossible)

Zen seems like the best counter to ramattra, discord orb with the damaged recieved increase will make his Nemesis block form quite weak and he can just dink and poke from a distance, the barrier is only temporary and so won't protect ramattra for long, and it will be difficult for ramattra to track a zen hit ox from across the map. Ramattra seems like an anti dive/sniper tank.

okay so i looked closer zenyatta starts taking damage when the ammo count reaches 40 and dies when it reaches 20. 20 shots means 10 dmg per headshot (so the 5 per bodyshot estimate from cassidy seems to be accurate) hope this helps edit: the "more damage per headshot" means you can hit headshot, unlike heros like ana with basically have a 1x multiplier on headshots.

RIP Rein, gone but not forgotten.

Given that the dps on his Omnic form is actually higher, and he has that shield, it seems like that form is what’s going to be in actual use while the nemesis form will become an instant get out of jail free card.

not every weapon or even bullet-type weapon crits so i think when qui said that he does increased damage on headshots, it's just the normal 2× crit multiplier because it wasn't specified to be more like kiriko's was

I think they mean that the primary CAN headshots, as opposed to beam weapons. He does regular crit damage.

ramattra looks busted, and they have a habit of not having the best hero releases, but they didnt fuck it up this time (there is a gun to my head)

I just cant wait to push choke points in session two! rotating Soujorn then Ramattras snare over and over and over and over and over will be so *_fun_*

I think a big factor is going to be the time his animations take. Like how easily can he stance dance between blocking and punching, what's the delay? Also not sure if we saw his reload in this clip

People seem to forget that damage that can't be blocked by Shields or eats are melee attacks. Nemesis punches are basically just close-mid range (prolly 10m?) melee attacks

super excited for tank queues to be 20 mins long

I think they're gonna get rid of the slow down of sojourn's so it balances it out

They either make it so that piercing damage is greatly reduced for every enemy/shield it goes through or the piarcing only activate at very close range making it a melee hero in that form like rein

We do already have unblockable damage in Winston. The only thing that makes you safe is a Zarya bubble. Ramattra punch may also get blocked by deflect like most other melee attacks, though it probably wouldn't protect the other people hit by it. It also looks like Winston has a wider cleave, though Ramattra seems to do more damage. It really comes down to the numbers. The fact that nemesis form is on a cooldown also helps keep it more balanced.

“steady damage and slow travel time” while showing gameplay of it doing crazy damage and moving pretty fast is hilarious

Honestly make the pummel pierce but it can only hit one enemy if it goes through a shield, then it pierces regularly if it's not .

I think the headshot is the regular multiplier, the guy just mentions it because some characters don’t get increased headshot damage (Zarya, Sym)

His vortex ability that pulls people down kinda feels like it's hinting towards that one of the two new heroes who are supports can fly or be in the air a lot.

They gotta make him op to coerce people to buy the battlepass

Void Accelerator has a "pattern" so the beam is made up of smaller projectiles. I think of shotguns when I hear the word "pattern." It's not like Zarya or Symm. It has a "fixed pattern" so there's no spread angle. It seems to be a tight spread shotgun beam. Projectile not hitscan.

The "hold w" comp with this is mad in my mind. Lucio speed boosting you in behind a 1000hp barrier, with a Reaper along with you in Nemesis form with the Vortex, Swarm plus Soujorn snare, seems scary. Classic design issue for hero/legend based games, you want to be creative for new additions so you give them everything.

His shield doesn’t seem too crazy. It’s not retractable so he can’t really manage it’s health like rein or sigma. Since it’s stuck in a position, players will just walk during long fights

Flats I think it is 20 bullets on the zenyatta kill, the slow travel time causes him to waste about 7 after the Zen is dead, so 5 for bodyshot, 10 for headshot

His nemesis form punch looks like it's 50dmg a punch with an 8m range, which is slightly more than Winston primary (which also goes through everything)

Kiriko/Ramattra ult combo😍😍😍

take away doomfist slow on slam, but then release this... gold standard blizz balance

AS a winston main I feel like hes gonna be a hard winston counter. He will poke winston at range with his primary and once winston engages he will block his supports LOS with shield, Vortex the winston, and then nemesis pierce his barrier

Holy smokes. I just watched this on stream, props to the speed and efficiency.

Imagine if other heroes had this much depth.

You have to remember that he can only Block/Pummel for 8 Seconds on an 8 Second Cooldown.

It sounds to me like the headshots are going to ramp up in damage the more you hit, like how symmetra beam ramps

Yo Flats he said Ramattra is the FIRST tempo tank so im sure theyre trying to imply they want this to be a new mechanic they give to tanks; the ability to switch between two forms. I find it really interesting and telling of what to expect from future tanks and how they want to continue developing this game! Edit: This makes sense considering they said they tried Echo as a tank so maybe they wanted her to be able to transform into tanks only back when they tested her for that role OR maybe it was also a bigger form similar to Ramattra

I think it make sense that his punches can go through shield cause his shooting like a energy like projectile something similar to Reinhardt fire charge thingy and Moria’s damage and healing balls and yet they can go through shields the only exception I can think of is sojourn E or what ever you call it but then yet I actually don’t know if go through shield or not I think it doesn’t idk

For anyone curious, Nemesis Punch does damage anywhere from 65~50 damage. Personally I'm assuming 50 off the bat

1k Shield and the infinite ult as long as they're within the radius is what seems crazy to me.

So I don't think the piercing punch is gonna be as much of a problem as it seems, it seems to be about 60 damage and attacks once per second making it on par with Winston Tesla which is also 60 DPS.. so if anything it's just like a burst damage version of Winston's primary fire, ofc we don't know the exact damage numbers now but considering it took 12 punches to kill a full health roadhog it's around 60 damage.. and they shown a scenario of 3 people directly lined up behind a rein shield and even missed the kiriko on the first couple swings, so the range isn't that crazy, tbh I think from what I've seen his nemesis form is the most balanced of the forms cause the skill ceiling of the staff's primary fire is gonna be insane with no fall off, and like I said the nemesis form punches just seem like a aimable burst damage similar to Winston.

At 1:53 I assume it means to specify that it functions as a projectile rather than a beam weapon even though it looks like a beam, since beams don't deal headshot damage

Don't forget that, with Blizzards new balance philosophy, we'll be stuck with his OP stats for a minimum of six weeks before they even think to start tweaking the numbers. Hope you get used to playing 100% pickrate Ramattra!

I don’t know how to feel about the tempo tank. I understand what they are saying with the 8 seconds on 8 seconds off tempo thing. But I don’t understand how that gives him a completely new idea for a tank

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I think they stated the primary fire does crit damage because nemesis punches don't.

This didn’t age well

Symetras teleport has a great use against that ult though, teleport the team away from his ultimate, let it expire within the 4 sec or whatever, then go back. Possibly difficult to pull off, but a viable option I think.

i think how it works is that the damage stacks the longer you hold it on a headshot. so if you hold it on someone’s head it will do more damage based on how long you’re continuously hitting headshots

i wonder if what they mean by increased damage for headshot was that its like a beam and beams dont do extra damage for headshots

They might've just killed half (or all) viable tank options with this XD

The Ult and unblockable 50+ damage punches are nuts

I did some quick math based off the content in his ability reveal video, his is dmg is as follows: Void Accelerator Staff Body shot: 5 dmg per bullet Void Accelerator Staff Headshot: 7.4 dmg per bullet (possibly 7.5 if rounded) Nemesis Mode Punches: 60 dmg each (takes 12 hits to elim a full health roadhog) Ravenous Vortex: 10 dmg per full second (deals roughly 22.22 dmg to Sojourn in just over 2 seconds prior to being Nemesis punched in reveal video) Ult Annihilation: 37.5 dmg per second (elims full health Tracer in 4 seconds) Keep in mind they could adjust this upon release and community feedback (plus I'm realistically estimating without full details,) but he could absolutely be a force to be reckoned with.

Literally every part of his kit is borderline too strong/OP

Everyone here really thought this guy was gonna be OP lol

barrier is 1khp but has around 15secs cooldown snare/anti air has around 12secs cd the increased damage on headshot might just be to differentiate from punches since those cant headshot

The headshot thing is just to distinguish it from other beam effects like Mei and sym primary fire, I think.

It's not about changing forms. It's about swapping the tempo of the battle. He can swap from ranged/defensive mode to melee/offensive mode on a dime swapping the "tempo" of the battle at a moments notice. Lucio is similar in his kit.

Some characters can’t headshot so that’s what he meant i think

Flats compares the short range attack to firestrike but it's more like Rein's melee. Short range left click with the "swing" going long instead of wide.

hitting a big slow and then pierce punch is gonna be so satisfying, especially rein players are gonna love it

He's too strong. I've not said this before, he's just flat too strong. What we have here is literally an Orisa, Sigma, Rein with DPS capabilities nearly on par with 76's left click and since his ult lasts for such a short period unless there are people in it just slap on a Lucio and watch Ramattra take teams basically alone. You will be able to press Q and win fights with just that, forcing the other team to also have Ramattra or lose every other team fight automatically. Blizzard, you have a whole damn community with very strong, knowledgeable, and passionate streamers. FUCKING ASK. I sincerely hope this comment ages poorly and I'm proved wrong.

I think the unblockable damage is a really bad move & self block mechanics usually are so fking boring I'm sorry. I'm hoping that it isn't that bad since you do need to be close range and like in a straight line for the nemesis form to do THAT damage but I dunnoooo I think this is a bad idea. He has so much utility too lol man has a shield AND cc? Isn't that what they were trying to remove? Idk like these things directly counter Reinhardt, Brigitte, Mercy, and so on when they are already weak characters.

Bro the speed of the ult charge I can’t… Imagine comp lobbies where 3-5 people are all on top of each other, you get insta ult charge and safely too with how available bock is + 600hp with about like 400 armor