3/28/21....She is most prob a typical PRIVILEDGED STAY AT HOME MOM who had hubby "BRINGING HOME HUGE 💰" + is trying to RUIN HIS LEAVING THE DAVE RAMSEY SHOW with benefits + severance pkg JUST TO SPITE HIM FOR CHEATING ON HER! KNOWING HE WILL HAVE TO SPEND LOTS OF TIME + MUCH 💰 DUE TO HER B--ITCH DEMANDS TO THE DIVORCE COURT... HOPING TO GRAB ALL HIS ASSETS + RUIN HIS CHANCE TO FIND A NEW POSITION---EVEN THO SHE WILL END UP LOOSING 💰 IN THE FUTURE + THEIR SON WILL BE "HER" PAWN IN HER STUPID SPITEFUL FULLY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" TELL-ALL SCANDAL-DIVORCE!
@@davidp2981 In reality I do not think so if the ex is complaining of losing medical insurance....what happened to their 3-6 months of emergency funds?
I really like Chris Hogan, and I really like the advice that they give. I became debt free due to the principles that they teach. But I firmly believe that we all make mistakes, we are in this world to learn from those mistakes, and I also believe that everyone deserves a second chance.
What about Chris's poor wife. She probably had anxiety every day he went to work. Yet he didn't care. Chris should have left the job on his own for having an affair with a coworker
I agree that Chris should step away b/c he was a Ramsey Personality and his job carried more responsibility in the public eye. However the pregnant woman was an administrative assistant. I feel it’s wrong to point fingers of what’s Christian & what’s not but when Dave is throwing a Christmas party with casino gambling after he’s fired an expecting mother... that looks bad. It is very hard for a pregnant woman to find employment with benefits.
Social media is at the core of living in the 21st century - You must watch your private life and avoid any risky situations that put your employment in danger.
@@snatchinitback4635 now that we seem to have everyone's behavior in life regulated by social media mobs, I think it's time we get a few more government protections in place. I think the less control employers have over us off the clock, the better. I welcome more wrongful termination lawsuits especially when it involves social media.
@@snatchinitback4635 I think the solution is for people to form counter boycotts like we are seeing more of to give bad publicity to corporations who unfairly dismiss their employees for things not pertaining to their performance
i would be very surprised if Dave Ramsey had affairs, drug use, etc... he practices what he preaches in money, life, everything. i do agree with the "selective enforcement of so called moral guidelines" reply
@@acruzro95 same way Disney fired someone for having conservative view. Atleast Dave has it in the handbook and clear. However, since I don't know the whole story --- selective enforcement would be more of a problem here.
I'm not religious (at all), but I totally believe in Dave Ramsey's character. When you work for his company, you understand that you're signing up for a company that won't tolerate behavior considered immoral from a biblical standpoint. If they didn't think they could abide by that standard, they should have gone elsewhere. Stick to your principles Mr. Ramsey. You're a rare individual in 2021. All the best to Chris too, but clearly he needs to reflect, adjust and rebuild.
Doesn't matter if the allegations are true, that's well beyond what any employer should get to do. This is not a religious nonprofit, they aren't above the law and if there's merit to the claims, they deserve to be punished.
But the standards only apply to tge women. Nit the men, such as Chris Hogan. He was an adulter and Dave KEPT him on staff. Even giving h8m his own show!! It's gender bias and protected under US law.
His show time has changed on youtube and he's been off a lot because he's retirement age and wanted to do more things with his wife and grandkids. He's got a legal team to handle these things so he doesn't have to "hide" from anything.
@@confidentandfitmom2675 no one said he was ‘hiding’ from anything. I said he has been ‘off...’ he has been forgetful when talking with guests, short with callers, and has said things that were off key. The man has been distracted by Chris Hogan issues and probably this lawsuit. That is what I mean.
If you sign onto a company and they have these rules in place before you work there than you agree to their policies. You don’t get to sue when you break them.
@Austin Duke we need context though. It seems suspicious that dave ramsey would do that. How? For instance, how do you know whether someone has sex or not at home? Also, with the party without masks. Lets say you work for Tesla, and you post a picture of a party without masks on social media. You will most likely be fired or terminated by mutual consent. You are a snake. You were invited to a party and then snitched on the group. Nobody forced you to attend. You gave free bad press to the company and acted in retalitation. As in for Hogan, i feel very bad for him since they were both having a good time not so long ago. Im not sure why would the wife write a public blog criticizing the company though. What do you accomplish again by doing all the dirty laundry outside. Lastly, how can we tell that she was not a shitty employee and then used having a baby out of wedlock as an excuse for this lawsuit. She could be a lame ass employee and is using her baby to get points. Time will tell whether these were justified or not.
Dave has lots of money - this will be a small fine for him - remember wealthy people always can buy there way out of trouble. Learn the baby steps today 😂
Ramsey is a POS. He engages in political debate all the time in his show. By the way, where does it say in the Bible that you can't criticize a Christmas party?
@@Wealth_Wisdom_Discernment i know alot of bankers that get into the business with a license from the state and it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. I recall Chris not knowing what a recast is on a mortgage.
Chris has a wealth of knowledge that should not go to waste as we watch him for information on how to solve financial problems. I dont care about what anybody does in the bedroom as its private and to each they're own. Chris should start is own thing
@Maverick Services if people want to be swingers and do freaky stuff after 2am I don't give 2 cents as long as they give me information that helps me with my problems financially and its in the privacy of there own home and everyone is fine with it then I'm not stopping anyone from whatever happiness they have in mind. I'm sick of nosy people that cannot mind there own damn business
If marital infidelity is going to be a cause for termination from the company, the policy has to be applied equally to males as well as females. I read elsewhere from another source that the female filed the lawsuit because she learned Chris Hogan got a chance to win back his job after marital infidelity but she did not. She's thinking that if Dave gave Chris Hogan a chance to repent and redeem himself, she should get an official path to repentance and redemption too .
I think an employer’s interference in someone’s personal life at such a deep level is unwarranted regardless of what they stand for. An employer should not be dictating right and wrong and having a hold on an employees life like that. Also the teachings and lifestyle of a particular religious group should not be imposed on someone with such brutality. Thats very unchristian. Let people find their morality on their own and identify with religious teachings at their own peril. Its also way out of line to put someone through this simply because they’re having a baby out of wedlock and shame her for that based on a controversial book that can be interpreted in so many ways. My take on the topic.
@@byefelicia8632 Clearly the people who own the company think of it as far more than “a controversial book that can be interpreted many ways”. If you disagree that’s fine it’s a free country, but don’t expect to work at that company
@@jordanneedscoffee Well thats a frivolous point. In fact its not a point to begin with 😄. This is about the extent to which an employer can have influence over an employees personal life and the decisions they make beyond the structure and principles of their company. It is also about the line where principle ends and worker protections on discrimination comes in. In direct response to your argument, they shouldn’t be hiring someone who doesn’t align with their ‘principles”. They didn’t do their due diligence over here. In court, your argument is not whats going to be put forward to argue the case. The bible is irrelevant over here. They will argue the logicality of the firing and if it was appropriate. The bible part is a matter at the bottom of the courts shoes over here. Also religious beliefs should not be pushed onto someone with such brutality. You should learn how to be a good Christian. This is not what Jesus teaches and I KNOW IT. Shaming someone for getting pregnant out of wedlock? Like seriously? The bible says, judge not, for the judgement you pronounce, you’ll be judged..........Matthew (7:1-5). Thats whats happening over here. A woman is being judged, shamed, tortured by a bunch of self-righteous Christians. The violation of “principles” is just an add-on. C’mon now.
@@byefelicia8632 They don't hire people who don't align with their principals. As far as I understand, people are expected to sign an agreement to follow those rules before working there. The bible is literally only about judgment. You might want to take freakin step back before you try to claim that GOD doesn't judge people, that's literally the most important thing that God does, it kind of determines where you end up after death. But forget about religion I don't really care WHY a business is enforcing rules what makes no sense is your argument that businesses aren't supposed to enforce rules on how you live. Actresses are not allowed to get pregnant while acting as a non-pregnant character, uh duh, how do you think film-making companies enforce that? They fire them if they do, I remember when Jamie Lynn Spears was fired from Zoey 101 for getting pregnant, the entire show went under. Imagine if the NFL didn't control what their players did outside of their careers. Have you ever taken a drug test? All of these things are examples of businesses controlling your behavior as a condition for employing you. What lunacy
The problem Dave is going to have in federal court is that it is against the law to fire someone who is pregnant. He can have morality clauses until the cows come home. It also doesn’t look good that they hid Hogan's infidelity until the court records were subpoenaed. The lady has a strong case.
It is not against the law to fire someone who is pregnant. That is a misstatement of the law. You can't fire someone for being pregnant. That's a huge difference. Ramsey's argument is that she was fired for having premarital sex, not for being pregnant. Whether a federal judge or jury buys that is another story. It's incidental that she just so happened to be pregnant which provides obvious evidence that she violated the morals clause of her employment contract.
The best thing is that he’s most certainly against abortion. Yet, will terminate a woman for making the decision to keep the baby. Jesus would NOT approve.
@Gangsta Guy I get the inconsistency of the application. I think that just happened for Chris. I heard both men and women were fired for that moral clause. So she can't say gender discrimination. If anything it was money discrimination because Chris has that book deal and he was the money maker for Dave.
There is no EEOC clause for discrimination based on revenue production. Tennessee is also an at will state. Women also don't have immunity form termination because they are pregnant.
You legally can not discriminate against: gender, sexual orientation, religion, political association, or disability. Ramsey fired people, by discriminating their freedom of religious choice. You can however fire people for being charged with a crime, accusations of a crime, or breaking a morality clause (outside of the things you can not legally discriminate for), being a member of a group deemed a terrorist organization by authorities, or speech that is not protected by the 1st amendment like: threats, hate speech, obscenity, fraud, speech that violates IP law, incitement, making false statements like defamatio/libel/slander, perjury, false advertising.
@@davidhale4647 not if the company has guidelines to work there . And if she knownlingly signed the documents that she would abide by the rules. She didn't ans got fired , there is other companies she could have worked for without that rule . Now if there is no document showing that language in the contract then yeah , it's in her court .
Good Job on this story. We must be vigilant in stamping out standards everywhere. How dare these privately owned companies have standards over and above just showing up for work. Obviously, Ramsey's company was the only option for these people. I'm sure they kept these standards secret until they pounced and threw them out. These poor victims... my heart pours out for them.
Dave should have been consistent with treating all employees equally. He claims to live by biblical principals and expects the same of his employees. He fired employees for pre-marital sex, for pregnancy out of wedlock, yet he allowed Chris Hogan to remain employed and to go on a book tour knowing that Melissa Hogan had brought to the companies attention Chris's multiple affairs back in 2018. He even had one with a Ramsey Solutions employee and a long term affair with family member of his wife; which Chris admitted to. Still Dave turned a blind eye and kept Chris employed because Chris was a cash cow for the company. I am so disappointed in Chris and in Dave Ramsey as a "Christians." I know everyone makes mistakes but to have so many affairs and not be held accountable by the company is unbelievable. I believe Dave started off wanting to help people get out of debt, but somewhere along the line money became the goal and the God. AS a Dave Ramsey follower for many years I am deeply saddened and completely disappointed.
Dave does say publicly that he will fire employees if they cheat on their spouse, and engage in other certain unChristian-like activities. From his book, he says that his employees are told all this stuff from the get go.
As a Christian, Dave should accept all into his place of work regardless of what they do in their personal life. You can have standards. And if the employee is fulfilling all of their work related duties properly, their personal life isn’t relevant to Dave. This is beyond creepy and cult like in my opinion.
I agree. But I also don’t understand firing someone for being pregnant outside of wedlock when that employee was not in a leadership position or one of the Ramsey personalities. If it is determined that he’s not operating his business within the law, that looks bad. It also looks bad to fire someone over “Christian moral policies” meanwhile, he’s throwing a Christmas party with casino gambling. I love & follow the baby step systems. I believe in Dave’s program but I question his business practices.
@@rbfoster that's fine if you don't agree with his business policies and heck, if you want to boycott him because of them, that's your choice. But legal action should not be taken!
@@CreatingCreations The only legal action that has been taken is a lawsuit by the girl he fired. She has a right to do that because him firing her was against the law IF there was no written statement that she signed stating that pregnancy out of wedlock was a fireable offense. You can argue an employer ought to have the right to fire you without a reason but in this case, Dave did give a reason and that reason was because she was pregnant. I don’t see how Dave Ramsey violating a discrimination law is the more Christian thing to do than keeping his pregnant employee (who had recently received a great review) employed.
@@rbfoster the reason for her firing was not because she was pregnant it was because of how she got pregnant. That’s a subtle difference but it IS a difference and it will be brought up in court. The law against firing pregnant women is only from companies who don’t want to pay maternity leave, not wanting to pay her leave is clearly not why she was fired
The problem here isn’t that Ramsey is firing people who don’t act according to their morals, it’s that it’s an issue at all. Companies should 100% be allowed to do this if you act in ways that are against what the company promotes.
@@Pleaselikemycomment1 They don’t, they have control over whether or not they allow you to work there. If you see that as them controlling your life, then quit. You have the freedom to quit just as much as they should have the freedom to fire you.
I agree, and the media can 100% report on how shitty of a practice that is for people and how hypocritical it is considering 80% of people who work there likely violated those standards many times throughout their lives
@@Dream-bebe I’m not saying that she doesn’t have a right to sue. I’m saying that the fact that it is an issue is absurd and that the laws need to be removed/changed
I’m sad to see Chris go, and I feel sorry for the woman who was also that go, but Dave has every right to set his rules and standards for his company. And when you sign on you know what you’re signing up for. I may not agree, but it is his right to set these rules and standards. Disney Netflix Apple all have their little standards so Can Dave.
That's very true. But when you have 1000 employees, it's kind of hard to make sure that they are all living a perfect life with no sin. I think that is asking a lot of most people. Unless he hires all nuns, it'll be hard to keep people from engaging in sinful activities.
@@vickieclark5931 I’m not saying it’s easy I’m not saying I agree with it all I’m saying is he has the right to do it with his own company! If I own my own company I want The right to run it the way I want to. And I don’t want other people coming in telling me what to do .it’s the sense of independence it’s the American way. We have to break down into different categories our our feelings and our rights. And our feelings can’t get in the way of our rights. The liberals and the liberal media don’t understand that. We’re on the slippery slope the socialism.
@@vickieclark5931 It's not that hard. The problem is people in the western world acting like horny dogs because modesty and morals is "out of fashion".
Chris cheated and was put on probation. Another employee was fired for getting pregnant without being married. She sues because they were not treated with the same punishment. Chris gets fired because of the lawsuit.
If the issue is a double standard, this makes sense. Also, I hope the child’s needs for health insurance is put at the top of the priority list. My qualm with some of this though, it seems as if Ramsey didn’t hold his employees to a high standard people would say “well there are those Christian hypocrites.” And when he does it’s like “well look at those Pharisees over there.” And so it’s a no win game. However, there are always two sides to a story, and the first seems right until cross examination. So let’s hear both sides out.
Well said @logantavellimusic3839. The issue that is not being mentioned here is the lack of Grace from Ramsey. Ramsey is in my opinion a bit of a Pharisee and always has been.
Ramsey Solutions is registered as a secular business, that they have some "Biblical" business code of ethics doesn't mean they can violate federal laws.
I love Dave but He should’ve just kept it small and solo. Just give advice on the radio. Employees means problems. Firing people because they had sex outside Of marriage is cra cra.
@@greenearthblueskies8556 signing a contract is not the same as legislation. It is perfectly legally to have a code of conduct clause in a contract that compels someone to follow Christian values.
Well that explains why they dropped me from sharing my story on their site. They probably found out I was gay then ghosted me. It's funny really. For someone who preaches that the government shouldn't be in his business, he sure inserts himself in everyone else's.
Will definitely miss Chris. I found out about the Ramsey network from an interview he did on Rachel Ray's show. Still plan to support AO, Ken, and Rachel's networks.
I cancelled DAVE... Ramsey told employees the couple was in a “really nasty divorce” and accused Melissa Hogan of making angry accusations about her then-husband.
Obviously this is misleading.... If YOU are gonna go out of your way to work with a company of CHRISTIAN FAITH, more than likely yiu will sign a contract with do's and don'ts on it.... everyone involved in these alienations SIGNED the contract which means they BROKE the contract when they got fired or let go. Plain and simple.
Companies cannot violate federal law. It doesn't matter what the company's philosophy is they cannot violate federal law. Why do you want to give employers more power than the federal government?
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite its capitalism, its a privately owned business because that employee has every right to quit and go work else where.... the owner doesn't have to cave in or cater to no one. If you dont like that rule than get out. Dave ramsey didn't FORCE her to work there. Why would you want the federal government to have more power thats socialism transformed to communism
@@manuelibarra7667 oh okay let's bring back slavery because capitalism Let's let employers break federal laws because capitalism. It's perfectly fine if an employer murders his employees because capitalism!!! Oh yes capitalism means the employers can do whatever they want up into including murder. Because capitalism!!! the employee didn't have to work there so it's perfectly fine for the employer to murder them because capitalism!!!! oh hell capitalism because obviously capitalism overrides human rights!!! Oh my gosh you are incompetent
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite lmfao im incompetent because i dont agree with your communist ideas? Lmfao What does slavery have to do with 2021 capitalism? This is definitely irrelevant and your talking outta your ass with these FEELINGS. GROW UP Just because this is offensive to you doesn't make you right lol.
I like Dave Ramsey's financial advice. His philosophy mirrors mine about debt and money saving/investing. But that's where it stops. Looking to him to guide my moral or spiritual space? Never. When he leaves the financial world and starts ranting about other areas of living, I turn him off. He becomes a Blow Hard, full of himself -- it's hard to hear. He's not a very humble person in my opinion, and humility is paramount. As the Scriptures says "the First shall be Last, and the Last First."
Why would you WANT to work at a company whose values you disagree with? If you got a job at Ramsey Solutions you knew EXACTLY what you were getting into. This sounds more like extortion from people looking for an easy payday.
Agreed. There are other jobs in Nashville’s thriving economy, not to mention the rest of the country. If his draconian policies keep him from getting and keeping the best talent, and his company/brand suffers, that’s the free market at work. He has to stay on the right side of employment laws, but generally, it’s not illegal to be a rigid, morally superior, unsympathetic boss. Work somewhere else.
@@michelleowenwest4249 I agree with what you're saying, but I think you underestimate the likelyhood that his "draconian policies" have prevented the hiring of FAR more problem-child employees than superstar employees. So on net balance, it's likely been a boost to the company. You don't say it outright, but your response seems to imply that you believe the policies HAVE been a hindrance to the company. Apologies if I'm reading too much into your response, and misinterpreting what you are saying.
I must admit that I have benefited myself from Mr. Ramsey's books, at the same time this situation reminds me to Argentinian writer Facundo Cabral who once said: "If bad people knew that being a good person, is such a good business, bad people will be good even if its for the sake of business."
How is their employer finding out they are having premarital sex? Are you talking about their sex life at work? Maybe they should keep that to themselves wherever they work!
His financial strategy depends in part on getting life events in the right order. (It’s biblical but it is also common sense.) I can see why he would want that for his employees since they are representative of his company. They are carrying his message. Why wouldn’t he have the right to stop putting money in their pocket?
There is nothing illegal about having such a clause. The Plaintiff isn't really arguing that from what I can tell. I think the argument is that there is a disparate impact on her as a female because Chris Hogan and others were not fired for breaking the same moral clause, i.e. Hogan having extramarital sex. She is also claiming she was essentially fired for being pregnant which is against the law. However, the defense to that claim is she is not being fired for being pregnant but rather for engaging in premarital sex in violation of its moral clause.
@@PInk77W1 businesses cannot fire people for federally protected attributes! Why is this so hard for you to understand? Ramsey is facing federal legal problems because he broke a federal law. Why are you defending someone that broke the law?
A fired employee bought on the lawsuit, making his business public. Knowing Ramsey's Solutions beliefs, he has had multiple affairs while employed, acting like the rules don't apply to him. Why cover up Chris' behavior? He says...it has been brought to light...as if someone just brought something unknown to your attention.
A company can fire you for outside actions. It happens all the time. You signed up for a Christian which expects you to follow Christian ideals. You break those ideals and you forfeigt your right to work there.
Why? Lots of people got fired last year for making Facebook comments unrelated to work (supporting Trump, criticizing BLM, etc...) It' it's good for liberal corporations its good for Dave.
@@Feanor1169 That is very different. Employees get fired for comments that are made to their FB friends on a post (meaning in it is seen by many people) or the post is public. The kinds of comments that would get you in trouble are things that do harm others because they are offensive and target or are specific to a group of people and demonstrate prejudice or hate. That is harmful to people. Also, usually if a company is going to take action against the employee there was something on the employees social media page indicating what company they worked for - which is why it is the company’s concern. It makes them look bad. But having sex with a consenting adult (even if that adult is married) does not fall under this. If an employer takes action against someone simply for supporting Trump or criticizing BLM on their social media, that is highly questionable whether it is proper and legal.
@1:50 "criticized the companies christmas party" Huge crowds and few masks... This "allegation" didn't age well. No one wears masks at parties and everyone is hanging out with crowds of people now.
@Maverick Services dude once again can you actually make relevant arguments? Cocaine is federally illegal. No you cannot do cocaine at any point because it is illegal... Why is this so hard for you to understand? If something is illegal does that means you cannot do it at any point. Yes your employer can fire you for doing something illegal. if your employer found out you murdered someone they can definitely fire you because murder is illegal. This is seriously a terrible argument.
@Maverick Services it's not legal to be drunk in public!!! It is legal to drink but it's not legal to be drunk at work or in public. you can fire your employee for being drunk you cannot fire your employee for drinking outside of work. Oh my gosh you do not understand logic or the law.
@Maverick Services oh you clearly do not understand the law. No you cannot be drunk in public. Inside of a bar is not in public it's inside of a private business and no you cannot be walking around on the streets drunk you will get a ticket for doing so because it is illegal to be drunk in public. Most beaches don't let you drink at all let alone be drunk.
@Maverick Services yes you still could get arrested for public drunkenness at work. You can't be drunk on someone else's property. if a customer can't wander into a location drunk then you most definitely cannot have an employee drunk on a location. Public drinking this would absolutely be a reason for someone to get fired because you cannot be drunk in public and you cannot show up to work impaired and not expect any consequences to come about from that. Public intoxication, also called public drunkenness, is a misdemeanor crime that a person is visibly drunk or under the influence of drugs in public. These laws exist to prevent people from disturbing others in public and to remove people who appear to be unable to stop themselves from hurting themselves or others.
@Maverick Services why in the world would I want to go to Daytona Beach. and yes if they are found drunk on the beaches they can and will be removed and arrested because Public intoxication, also called public drunkenness, is a misdemeanor crime that a person is visibly drunk or under the influence of drugs in public. These laws exist to prevent people from disturbing others in public and to remove people who appear to be unable to stop themselves from hurting themselves or others. seriously you should fact check these things before you show how little you actually know.
Cool, so let’s ignore that Netflix asks if you’re a transsexual, your race, and your sexual preference on the first page of their job application. All good when it’s on the other team right?
That's non sequitur. Netflix isn't firing employees for being part of any of those groups. That would be illegal, very similar to how it's likely illegal that Dave is firing this woman for getting pregnant.
As long as Dave was clear about expectations for his employees and they entered the job knowing these rules he has every right to uphold them. It's obvious he wants high caliber people in his sphere and if you can't live up to those expectations then you have to know there are consequences. Accountability is a real kick in the gut sometimes, but what doesn't kill you makes you unemployed I guess.
Let's say you own a PRIVATE company, and you hand selected your employees under the provisions that they live their lives with what you believe in, and they break your beliefs (whatever they might be) you have every right to fire them. If you own a private company you can fire one of your employees for no reason at all and it's justified under law
Know the laws before your business make rules contradicting Federal law. He had poor lawyers, if they didn’t tell him this. But it appears he doesn’t listen to anyone but himself
I'm betting if they're firing people, they have a list of things said person did wrong. Whenever a coworker has been fired, management and HR have always had their T's crossed and I's dotted. She'll get paid. They'll settle out of court to make her go away.
I’ve been a loyal Ramsey follower for several years and I am very disappointed in the company for doing this. You dont have the right to dictate how someone lives because of your religious beliefs. What if she was a single woman who wanted to have a baby and went through IVF using a sperm donor, would you also fire her for being unwed and pregnant? Its plain moral superiority, and is unjust on so many levels. Now this poor girl has a baby on the way and no income! This seems directly contradictory to his overall goal. Sorry Dave, but you are completely wrong here, and this girl deserves her normal maternity leave after working for you for 4 years! You have lost a follower in me.
But he won't buy his way out of acting contrary to jesus' teachings and claiming to be a christian. He'll have some "splainin" to do for that as desi arness would say.
@@richardvargus7443 Exactly. Dave was against the guy who wouldn't have violated his morality clause but he was all for the guy who would've violated his morality clause. Hence the pretzel conservative Christians have to twist themselves into to justify their support of Trump.
@@WDE1121 Joe Biden isn't a saint either honey... He has had multiple sexual assault allegations, he is a supporter of tax-payer funded abortion up to 9 months, his border facility capacity is already OVER the amount of migrant children ever held under Trump, he has many times said racist things ("if you don't vote for me, you aint black" and "you can't walk into a 7-ELEVEN without heating an Indian accent"), his shining legislation was the 1994 Crime Bill which disproportionately harmed black men, he advocates socialized healthcare and giving children puberty blockers, he is cozy to China, he has made millions from who-knows-where since he's never had a job outside government, he has already been bombing Syria, and he would like to give the government MORE power over individual lives..... Regardless, people don't vote for "morality", they vote for who will press forward the ideals they value. For Trump supporters, that was individual liberty not government overreach. They could give 2 rips about his personal flaws as long as they weren't effecting their ability to live as they saw fit.
Dave has absolutely no right to control someone’s life outside of work specially behind close doors. If personal matters does not affect your job performance then your perfectly fine.....at the end of the day he hired skills and expertise not personal lifestyle.
You are correct Dave Ramsey has no control over someone’s life. BUT it is HIS private company which is not funded by the government. A private company has the right to set rules of code of conduct of it’s employees when they are working and when they are not working. If individuals do not agree with it...they can find another company to work for. Even government agencies do the same. People with criminal history have been denied many jobs because they don’t meet the moral conduct code to even work for certain government jobs. These people knew the company’s policies but they chose to do what they wanted to do. Now they have to face the consequences. Find a new job and move on.
@@indigogirl5172 if rules were disclosed at hire date and paperwork signed acknowledging that those are specific rules, then yes, I agree with you but these allegations seem to be pointing elsewhere.
You're right. Dave Ramsey has no right to control someone’s life outside of work. He does have the right to say who does or doesn't work for him for any reason he wants.
Uh, he has as much right to fire you for just about any reason as you have a right to quit for just about any reason. I don’t really like that he runs his company like that but getting the government involved is a step too far
If Dave didn’t initially fire Chris and it seems he didn’t but this chick was fired then his self imposed guidelines have zero standing so he violated the FMLA 😳 big trouble Dave
Not surprised. Dave is a religious zealot. I’m just surprised it took this long for a lawsuit. I’m not sure this story tells us why Chris Hogan is involved though.
@@cato451 agreed. I hope everyone that he violated the human rights of sue him. No one has the authority to control others. Dave just has a hugely disgusting ego and thinks he can control people
Its sucks because i really appreciate the advice and knowledge from dave ramsey but they are going waay to overboard with this . The baible says "repent yes therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the lord" (Acts 3:19). Hogan and others shouldn't have been fired but have been given the chance to repent.
Watched Dave Ramsay many times. Found his advice to be nonsensical. That being said people say he’s helped them so maybe I’m the moron. 🤷♂️. “Christian values” he’s willing to put people out of work for what they do in their personal lives. Dude has started himself a bit of a cult
@@JesusEsDios007 yes. I see, but you can let people go if their morals are not aligned with the companies. Especially if they are not being professional and bringing their personal lives into work
@@silverltc2729 i bet the people that are in blatant sin are not bringing it up at work but they got Caught doing it. So... Yeah I dont know. But I see your point. Much discussion needs to happen.
@@JesusEsDios007 I think the free market (without government intervention), will always pick the winners. Example, say if Stephen Hawkin couldn't get wheelchair access to University 1, but University 2 offered that. Well, why would he take his skills to University 1? Same with everything. Even Skin color- if you don't employ someone because they were born with something; that is your loss- not theirs. Free market Capitalism punishes racists.
@@silverltc2729 unfortunately true free market capitalism will never happen because people are born evil sinners. Its a fallen world. But yeaj we need to aim for that.
To work at Romsey solutions you sign a contract that includes livingby the word of God and by the Bible. You sign the contract knowing what is expected of you and your family. Also in the contract is that you are not to speak ill of or criticize the company at all even after you leave the job. If you don't like it, don't work there. Very simple. Tennessee is considered an at-will employment state. In general, this means that your employer can fire you at any time for any reason, or for no reason at all.
This is like people being mad that a Catholic church defrocked a priest for converting to Islam. It's a Christian business with a specific contract for employees. People violate their contract and then get mad and sue when they are fired. Tough! Keep your legs closed and your pants up if that's a requirement for the job you agreed to.
I don't see any wrong here, if that was the agreement in the contract.. If you failed on your end to uphold the contract your not ENTITLED to work for someone it is their business literally.. they chose who they want on their team thats why we run background checks because.. Yes your personal life does and will affect your work life. I would not have fired chris, but cleary dave has his reasons and holds the standard for HIS company to stay successful and Every right belongs to him because again it's HIS COMPANY not a Gov't run subsidiary to even the playing field for snowflakes.🙄
@@abrahamflores2566 he's written a book or 2, have you??? And you cant make any piss poor excuse because you know damn well nobody is gonna just publish the books, and for millions to buy it and read it, then to recommend it. How many bad reviews have you seen on his books???? How many ppl have became millionaires because of Dave ramsey AND his team to include chris hogan???
@@manuelibarra7667 well thats some cool stuff sure! But first off what do his books bring that Dave hasn't written about already? Inventing in an IRA? Wow who would have thought!? Telling people to not buy depreciating assets on credit? Wow never heard of that? Yes telling people to payoff debt and investing for the rest of their lives is going to lead to millionaires no doubt but its about the specifics on how you get there. I have not written a book yes but I am a millionaire under 30 so yeah doing Dave Ramseyish has worked out better than just blindly listening to one financial advisor. Chris brought nothing new to the show, he was Dave on repeat just like everyone at Ramsey.
Why would his ex wife get him fired knowing she needs his health insurance? Her ex husband was wrong but she could have sacrificed hurt feelings for her kid
Melissa Hogan has written a book, “Afraid of the Doctor: Every Parent’s Guide to Preventing and Managing Medical Trauma,” which is being released in July. This scandal is giving her so much publicity that it's worth more than her kid's health insurance from Ramsey. She claims her child desperately needs health insurance which is true. Until now the child was covered under her ex's group policy through his job at Ramsey. Because of the ACA he can get other insurance, he can't be turned down or charged higher premiums because of his pre-existing condition. In most divorce decisions the noncustodial parent is ordered to pay for the children's insurance. If Chris Hogan doesn't pay for his child's insurance it won't be a big deal. As a practicing attorney Melissa Hogan can easily afford to buy insurance for her son. She is winning twice by getting revenge against her ex-husband and getting tons of publicity for her book.
I don’t think she wanted him to she saw it was likely to happen after some things we don’t know about and spoke about it in The statement saying she fears that it will happen and they will lose their healthcare.
Look... these employees knew the rules. You find another job if you don't like them. I wouldn't work for him, though I follow Ramsey's way to exit debt. No one is holding folks captive at that job.
