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Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Tuning | Remap + Dyno Runs + Decat + DPF Delete + EGR Delete (Myth busting) 

Rough Restos
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Welcome back for an exciting one! Let's bust some myths, answer the questions and make some power! This is probably my stupidest idea yet... Only 195,000 miles, no history... What could possibly go wrong?
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@darrenjones1528
@darrenjones1528 Год назад
Great video Jordan. Don't forget to find the emissions plate and remove it or 'drop' something over it - the likelihood of it passing it's mot at the limit on the plate(0.5m-1) is very slim, but without any evidence it's got to be tested at default(1.5m-1). Of course I didn't tell you this😊😊😊
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Would be a shame if it was illegible 🤣
@MissBabz-ql7mp
@MissBabz-ql7mp Год назад
So where would I find this emissions plate that might accidentally get obscured?
@darrenjones1528
@darrenjones1528 Год назад
@@MissBabz-ql7mp it's normally under the bonnet or in the passenger door shut. Look for the E24 number on the big sticker. Some of the stickers give with and without DPF values for both V6 and V8 engines
@rawbennett
@rawbennett Год назад
I'm calling Greta 📞😂
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
This could be interesting, you guys could spend days on the phone ranting 🤣
@rawbennett
@rawbennett Год назад
@@RoughRestos oh yeah, I didn't think about that, I'll reverse the charges 😉 either way, you're going on her list!! 😂
@michaelbryan1878
@michaelbryan1878 Год назад
I work with boats, don’t see anyone getting upset with 2x 1400hp diesels in pleasure boats of £1m at 10 litres a minute..🤫
@lankisaari
@lankisaari Год назад
Thank you for doing the educational testing on behalf of the rest of us! Very good and detailed info. As you said, these haven’t been well documented for 4.4 TDV8s.
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
No worries, thank you for watching
@jeremyrolland9996
@jeremyrolland9996 Год назад
I've done a stage 1 mapp on the engine, stage 3 mapp on the ZF Gear box, full egr and dpf delete, 2012 4.4 tdv8 on a long run I'm getting 40mpg, around town I'm getting 30mpg. Also I've serviced the ZF gearbox runs like new... 👍
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Excellent! Such a great combination
@zaptinerunk7311
@zaptinerunk7311 Год назад
what are the costs for such upgrades ? +/-
@almac414
@almac414 Год назад
I'm guessing that's on the trip computer? No mapped car will ever provide an accurate dash figure unless recalibrated. My old TD6 was mapped to 260bhp and claimed nearly 40mpg on a run. Obviously this was complete nonsense and the real world was more like 25mpg.
@fury2625
@fury2625 11 месяцев назад
Who mapped your gearbox??
@hotpotatojr
@hotpotatojr 11 месяцев назад
Likewise! Can't find anyone who maps the ZF8 for these cars...
@Ben-in6qh
@Ben-in6qh Год назад
Be interesting to see how long the turbos last now with no back pressure, really you should of kept the cat as it hardly effects performance but stops a lot of smells
@lozl
@lozl Год назад
Interesting video Jordan. I dont own one, i dont think i'll be owning one any time soon, but i tuned in as im enjoying the content. I used to work at JLR, engine calibration team, specifically the DPF team..... youve done yourself a favour there, fantastic work. One thing to add. You mention that binning the CAT wont do anything. This isnt quite true. If the v8 is like most other diesels (i didnt work on the TDv8, this was a little before i worked there).. to regenerate the DPF (burn out all the soot), it injects lots of fuel very late in the cycle, that fuel goes out the exhaust and burns in the CAT to generate the heat. So removing the CAT only will eventually result in a blicked DPF. I would agree with some of the ranters that this will now be putting out a bit of soot, and its not great if you leave it idling outside an inner city school. But and its a big BUT it now produces a lot less CO2. Youve swapped long term climate change problem for a shirt term local pollution problem, in my opinion this is better :)
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Cheers mate, very good point about the cat! I should have been more clear in the video, my intention was that it wouldn't cause any immediate limp mode/error codes unlike the egr/dpf being tampered with, but as you point out ofcourse if someone was to remove the cat and drive it as is they'd block the DPF :)
@PaulDaly-bl3rk
@PaulDaly-bl3rk Год назад
Hi had my egr deleted and blanked off,,,,the guy who did it modified a 3.6 blanking kit, really made a difference, as you say smoother, more responsive better mpg and goes like a rocket ...approx 30 round town and 36/38 on run, drove to south Spain last month approximately 3000 miles return and a 1000 miles whilst I was there and didn't miss a beat...great video thanks
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Great to hear! They do go like a rocket for sure!
@notmanynamesleft
@notmanynamesleft Год назад
People think these cost a fortune to run but if you get them set up properly they're actually economical and reliable as hell.
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
@@notmanynamesleft They are indeed
@jerrygreene7139
@jerrygreene7139 Год назад
The moral that I took from the story is, “Don’t be a dickhead!” Thanks for the video!
@ianwiggins5499
@ianwiggins5499 Год назад
Let’s see more action on the Capri build with the Mercedes engine in let’s get it up and running properly without smoking😅😅😅
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
It's coming, just been really busy with life :)
@craigorford9932
@craigorford9932 Год назад
The DPF And the Cat fitted to cars are a big con,I had a tdi scirocco I had the DPF Cat and EGR Valve mapped out and a sports exhaust fitted I ran the car on Shell V power it passed an mot emissions test with a stage 1 remap,my round trips to work are about 40 miles each day the mpg was about 45mpg.the car was new when It with 50 miles on the clock.I sold it with around 37k to a mate of mine and is still going strong
@DanDoge-wp7uj
@DanDoge-wp7uj Год назад
😮Add a hydrogen generator into air intake. It will give you near zero emissions.
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
I'd say that's more work than needed :)
@davebell3703
@davebell3703 6 месяцев назад
Excellent really good video 👏👏👏
@nev6363
@nev6363 9 месяцев назад
Thank you ive got the v8 tdi sport ive been looking for this sort of info for ages
@GaryWoodAlive
@GaryWoodAlive Год назад
As you say, The ZF transmission on those is rated to 700Nm. This means it’s designed to operate up to that level and provide a long service life. Even the SVR models are capped at 680Nm, and for good reason. With the DPF and DOC present, the 4.4 TDV8/SDV8 will still readily make far more torque than the transmission can tolerate, and most tuners will post torque figures in the region of 840Nm post remap, with or without the emissions control present. This level of torque will significantly shorten any existing life the gearbox, torque converter and the diffs had in them, especially when the extra performance is enjoyed! 🤪 It’s torque that damages drivetrain components, and at over 840Nm, unless driven like a saint, they’re going to let you down. A replacement gearbox is a mission to install on those, and also very expensive! Your diffs also aren’t cheap to replace, as you’ll discover! I speak from many years of experience in this area. 😉 Given the forthcoming changes to UK legislation and the MOT, it’ll not pass another test unless you reinstate the emissions control systems beforehand. If you now run that car in your garage, the exhaust gasses will take your breath away, whereas before hand it would have been tolerable. God help anyone stuck behind you in the queue at a drive through on a damp day! 🤢 I wish you luck with the channel and I’ll look forward to watching future videos on your journey with this Range Rover. 👍
@almac414
@almac414 Год назад
The ZF8 is actually pretty tough, and the 700NM is pretty conservative. I know quite a few running at 400bhp/and 900NM+ which get hammered and are going strong after solid mileages. Even changing the fluid out regularly doesn't seem to show any real amount of wear to the clutch packs. They're tough, and pretty cost effective to rebuild (c£2k for swapping out all the common wear items). That said I've killed one in a stock 335d with less than 70k that gets the absolute arse driven out of it on country roads in 4th-6th.
@hexagonosaurus5848
@hexagonosaurus5848 10 месяцев назад
Except there is a thing called torque limiters in the map 😂 Have fun with your dpf and egr
@joncrocker5955
@joncrocker5955 6 месяцев назад
great vid, i have L405 4.4 sdv8 remap to 390hp. trying out premium diesel average 20 mpg to 22 mpg.
@f.crecovery2488
@f.crecovery2488 10 месяцев назад
I did my 2012 l322.. 2 years ago… done 40,000 miles since then…. No problems since
@EvolutionMachinery
@EvolutionMachinery Год назад
Great video,good to see some one actually do this, what was the name of the company that did the remap and where in the country is he please ?
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Thank you, Tuning Lab in Devon
@ghosalmartin
@ghosalmartin Год назад
When you went back to DPF/Cat, did the EGR stay disabled and cause any issues? I've kinda had enough of my intake system being gunked up by it. I basically want to disable the EGR valve and leave everything else alone.
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
The egr can be mapped out leaving the DPF and AT still in place
@paulduncombe3308
@paulduncombe3308 Год назад
Love the video. Leave it as it is now Jordan it's as it should be now before they choked the life out of it. Need you to keep it like this so we know if it does do any damage. You're like a test pilot Jordan keep it up. Paul
@jasoncruise5949
@jasoncruise5949 Год назад
Terrific Content
@paulsmith3159
@paulsmith3159 Год назад
Did you do a post map smoke test out of curiosity if so what was it?
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Sadly didn't get chance
@DanDoge-wp7uj
@DanDoge-wp7uj Год назад
Run it on b100. Problem solved..
@AutomoTom
@AutomoTom Год назад
Great to see you trying out what all others were too cautious to try!
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Couldn't find much info myself, so thought i'd jump in and document it for others
@noelcahill6707
@noelcahill6707 Год назад
Will deleteing your egrs save your turbos from failing
@baedanbutler5995
@baedanbutler5995 14 дней назад
Put an x pipe on them unreal
@nickgilbert
@nickgilbert 10 месяцев назад
My local car tuner recomends leaving the CAT in place so it will still go through a MOT without any problems. I have done the DPF and EGR and get no smoke whatsoever, the car runs so much better now it can breathe!
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 10 месяцев назад
Technically, if you were to submit a car for mot with a missing CAT/DPF or with evidence of tampering, it's a reason for failure. For science, I had the emissions tested without the cat/dpf and it tested at less than 1/4 of the maximum limit for the exact engine, and less than 1/12th of the limit for the maximum for it's age (with no present engine bay sticker)
@williamprobert5124
@williamprobert5124 2 месяца назад
I’m sold going to get mine done
@neilwhite8131
@neilwhite8131 Год назад
Another great video, thanks.
@charlessturrock5696
@charlessturrock5696 8 месяцев назад
Do the temperature sensors fail or throw up fault codes if you gut the dpf?
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 8 месяцев назад
Temp sensors were fine, just the pressure sensor gets upset
@TP4MBH69
@TP4MBH69 Год назад
So the EGR just needs a remap in order to delete it rather than physically blanking them ? reason im asking is because i got this fault code EGR Temp Sensor A - Circut High ( Permanent ) P040D-00 and thought if i can send it to someone to blank out the EGR entirely by coding rather than changing or addressing whatever parts that needs replacement for that .. Thoughts ?
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Correct, no physical alterations required, providing that sensor isn't required for any other use it could be mapped out, although it just sounds to be a faulty sensor/bad connection
@TP4MBH69
@TP4MBH69 Год назад
thanks for the reply mate, looking forward to more content in regards to the 4.4 tdv8 u have on your hands. Cheers ! @@RoughRestos
@bigfatnick
@bigfatnick 6 месяцев назад
@roughrestos Am i right in thinking you need the egr's to create the heat to regen the dpf? (Assuming you still have dpf's)
@robertmutero8550
@robertmutero8550 9 месяцев назад
what's the rim size and tyre size you are running on the rr?
@callumkc1
@callumkc1 3 месяца назад
Hi pal, I’m currently removing my exhaust too I’ve undone the clamp in front of the cat and the bolts on the other side. It doesn’t want to come off from the from the cat side. Everything is loose and the exhaust twist just won’t pull back, was yours a pain to remove ?
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 3 месяца назад
Hello, mine was abit tight, took some pulling and taps back with a hammer whilst twisting, just be mindful of the flexi
@callumkc1
@callumkc1 3 месяца назад
@@RoughRestos thanks pal, my cars a beast now it’s had same treatment as yours 👍
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 3 месяца назад
@@callumkc1 Completely worth it right?
@callumkc1
@callumkc1 3 месяца назад
@@RoughRestos absolutely, got more than enough power and torque and it did 36mpg on a 300 mile trip to Cornwall yesterday. Not sure if I should do a back box delete next.
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 3 месяца назад
@@callumkc1 Excellent! Is that dash MPG or calculated? I managed '38 mpg' on the dash on a trip from cornwall up to santapod and back with careful driving, but once i calculated the actual MPG it was 32, still very happy with that, but the L322's do lie a touch, will make a video on how to recalibrate them when I get chance
@jon81crowe
@jon81crowe Год назад
Still on original turbos?.
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
As far as I know, but I have 0 history so I can not confirm
@johnsutherland8239
@johnsutherland8239 Год назад
One of my favourite channels , down to earth guy who loves tinkering with cars , keep up the good content 👍
@reallynotpc
@reallynotpc 4 месяца назад
Lovely, but I would worry about how much the transmission could take if you kept it like that.
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 4 месяца назад
Very strong transmissions, seem to be used alot these days
@garyslater1420
@garyslater1420 5 месяцев назад
Where was it tuned and what was the price thanks
@vfpaintjobs
@vfpaintjobs 11 месяцев назад
I get a chatter noise in mine after running awhile when I accelerate hard?? Can you help
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 11 месяцев назад
Probably not over RU-vid sorry
@jimlad24
@jimlad24 Год назад
Fantastic video.. thanks for sharing 👍🏿 What fuel you running it on? Supermarket or premium diesel?
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos Год назад
Usually BP standard, i try to avoid supermarket fuel with any of my cars
@paulsmith3159
@paulsmith3159 Год назад
Sorry I meant emissions test.
@uklmngubane5661
@uklmngubane5661 8 месяцев назад
heavy on fuel--wow
@RoughRestos
@RoughRestos 8 месяцев назад
an't moan about fuel when owning one of these :)
@MRFUCKOFF202
@MRFUCKOFF202 Год назад
V8 diesels sound genuinely good without an exhaust lol
@marccornelius6989
@marccornelius6989 Год назад
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