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Ranking 2020 Costume Dramas on Historical Accuracy 

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Chapters:
00:00 - the tiers
2:22 - Little Women
2:47 - Emma
3:05 - Mulan
5:49 - Belgravia
7:00 - The English Game
8:25 - Self Made
10:19 - Miss Scarlet and the Duke
11:36 - The Great
12:50 The Alienist
14:02 - Radioactive
15:46 - A Personal History of David Copperfield
17:13 - Antebellum
18:35 - Enola Holmes
20:12 - The Spanish Princess
20:29 - Ammonite
22:35 - Come Away
23:51 - Bridgerton
24:58 - Jingle Jangle
26:31 - Why Historically Authentic Costume is Actually Kind of Important

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@ajromero3692
@ajromero3692 3 года назад
One of my favorite things about Bernadette is how she speaks like a private school headmistress but occasionally has contemporary slang and memeage sprinkled in her vernacular and does it seamlessly (pun intended).
@cerebrummaximus3762
@cerebrummaximus3762 3 года назад
Ikr, Bernadette speaks with a Posh kind of accent but with Modern slang. I remember having an English teacher, she was one of the Best teachers I've ever had, Bernadette really Reminds me of her
@lybri5490
@lybri5490 3 года назад
Spot on observation! Could not agree more
@esosaimasuen8122
@esosaimasuen8122 3 года назад
I
@kcmilholland1967
@kcmilholland1967 3 года назад
She has a beautiful trans-atlantic accent
@theheadlesshat5887
@theheadlesshat5887 3 года назад
incredibly accurate, down to the "headmistress" part - when she sighed and asked, like, "what was this supposed to be?" for enola holmes, i literally had the exact feeling you get when a high school teacher asks you to stay after class and you *know* you didnt do a good job on your essay
@cupids_favourite_aro4578
@cupids_favourite_aro4578 3 года назад
Bernadette: "so this dress gives me a late 1800's feel." Me, who knows nothing about clothes: "ah, yes, i see🤔"
@tbhidk
@tbhidk 3 года назад
Same
@serenatodoroki1008
@serenatodoroki1008 3 года назад
bruh same
@cupids_favourite_aro4578
@cupids_favourite_aro4578 3 года назад
Over 1k likes?! For this dumb joke?! This comment section is the best!😊💖
@fairyfarms
@fairyfarms 3 года назад
Ahaha, that's literally me watching any video ever. I never understand but pretend like I do.
@menaward9159
@menaward9159 3 года назад
Meeee😂
@GenePolice1
@GenePolice1 3 года назад
There was a scene in Bridgerton where Daphne is changing, and she is shown wearing a corset with no under garments. All I could think was "Bernadette would not approve..."
@Kate98755
@Kate98755 3 года назад
i also thought, i remember bernadette talking about corsets, what would she think 😁
@SmallFaerie
@SmallFaerie 3 года назад
Me too! :D Also, the scene with her bruising from the corset made me wince.
@GenePolice1
@GenePolice1 3 года назад
@@SmallFaerie Right!? It looked so uncomfortable.
@thegracklepeck
@thegracklepeck 3 года назад
Sameeeee. Like I saw that corset scene where they were tight-lacing somebody and was annoyed as those would not be the appropriate period undergarments.
@LyddieTheJester
@LyddieTheJester 3 года назад
Oh that tight lacing scene was so unnecessary! Her waist wouldn't even be seen because the silhouette is empire *face palm*
@Seegras
@Seegras 3 года назад
Love that (damning) statement: "Literally Victorian. As in: The costumes take place in all seven decades of it".
@Elena-ux9uk
@Elena-ux9uk 3 года назад
that made me laugh so hard lol
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 2 года назад
I know, it's like everyone wore the hippie look for 70 years
@mb2001
@mb2001 2 года назад
Oh dear
@isaacchan2872
@isaacchan2872 3 года назад
As a Chinese, I rank Mulan as Panda Express Level
@danigeo5673
@danigeo5673 3 года назад
What does Panda Express mean?
@isaacchan2872
@isaacchan2872 3 года назад
@@danigeo5673 american chinese restaurant
@ladyofrillwater
@ladyofrillwater 3 года назад
Yeah, I heard that the architecture, makeup, hair and clothing were all this mishmash of Chinese fashions with no rhyme or reason beyond, it seems, ☆aesthetic☆ or some shit.
@Kairos_Akuma
@Kairos_Akuma 3 года назад
I assume you mean the RL one? How would you rate the old animated one?
@musicat100
@musicat100 3 года назад
I almost died from choking after reading this.
@jazzedaboutcheese
@jazzedaboutcheese 3 года назад
"The women in this show are basically props." SHE SAID WHAT SHE SAID.
@CowGirlKat8691
@CowGirlKat8691 3 года назад
Weren't we at one time or another just that??
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 3 года назад
@@CowGirlKat8691 no, woman did plenty of valuable things independent of how society viewed them. Even "leisure class" adult women had more social/political standing than children (only ever taken to the public for prop purposes) from Aristotles Greece to Victorian England Not that modern improve aren't valuable
@chrissiek8706
@chrissiek8706 3 года назад
@@fionafiona1146 unless they were royal children. Oh, and today's children and previous centuries children is two different categories, age wise, as in today we, at least in western society, do not think it is normal to a 14 boy to be a king and lead men to the battle, or 12 years old girl to get married...
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 3 года назад
@@chrissiek8706 they to were puppets, as long as their "advisors" kept them labeled as "children" Not that modern 12-16 year old aren't similarly capable of running households or countries, our standards have raised
@chrissiek8706
@chrissiek8706 3 года назад
@@fionafiona1146 yes, we definitely raised standards for ourselves, letting children be children for a bit longer
@eddiegaltek
@eddiegaltek 2 года назад
Enola Holmes should have been in it's own category, "They Didn't Even Try."
@anyasw160
@anyasw160 2 года назад
God yes, they made Mycroft stupid even though he’s cleverer than Sherlock DID YOU READ THE BOOKS Heh sorry for that rant just arggghhh
@neli_e
@neli_e 2 года назад
@@ef1876 i personnaly thinks it was so not like the book haha u think they made up they own story while including parts of the book in the move at least that's how I see it and yeah the costumes were not it lmaoo
@abacaxipineapple9147
@abacaxipineapple9147 2 года назад
I read the notes by the costume and I kid you not, she talked about using denim and Lycra for a ‘modern inspired athleisure look’ 😡😩
@eddiegaltek
@eddiegaltek 2 года назад
@@abacaxipineapple9147 That noise you heard, it was my forehead hitting the table.
@elizabassett-wilson5656
@elizabassett-wilson5656 2 года назад
Honestly? I think a lot of these films were ‘they didn’t even try’ as far as costumes- especially hair and makeup- though, I do wonder if any of that is due to lighting. Also, some makeup was poisonous (depending on when it takes place). Wasn’t it Elizabeth I of England who was slathering lead on her face? Or someone like that?
@elizabethhodson696
@elizabethhodson696 3 года назад
The only way I could tell the three older Bridgerton sons apart was by their side burns, lol
@alessandras8980
@alessandras8980 3 года назад
omfg same!! after 5 episodes i finally got it but it was so hard lol
@lania2246
@lania2246 3 года назад
they have different sideburns? XD I got Collin easy but Benedict and Adam? Anthony? The A one I mixed up at first.
@stultusego1103
@stultusego1103 3 года назад
@@lania2246 Who's Adam?
@blurb121
@blurb121 3 года назад
It's actually a running gag in the books that all eight siblings look very much alike.
@orangedoesthings.3380
@orangedoesthings.3380 3 года назад
What do you mean there were three??
@marinasprinker
@marinasprinker 3 года назад
It was a cop out that they didn’t use a Chinese designer for Mulan. I was wardrobe supervisor in college and when we did a Chinese opera and about 5 teachers came from China to help with direction and costume design. I still remember a teacher explaining me to me in Manderin, which I do not speak, how to properly tie a sash. Anyway, if my University could do it, Disney could do it.
@stephaniemoura3214
@stephaniemoura3214 3 года назад
Is there something that this movie actually got right? They didn't even hire the right people!
@russelljones3221
@russelljones3221 3 года назад
You would think with them try to snuggle up to Winnie the Pooh they would get actual Chinese people
@ebonyloveivory
@ebonyloveivory 3 года назад
Disney could do it but the problem is they never want to. They've always taken the "easiest" route and the mainstream path, whatever appeals to the masses and little kids instead of being accurate in any manner. Their point would be "it is fantasy and as long as it is aesthetically pleasing..." that is all that matters.🤷🏻‍♀️
@10AntsTapDancing
@10AntsTapDancing 3 года назад
@@ebonyloveivory It's kind of insulting really to treat the film goer as dumb and ignorant. Reality is so much more interesting and exciting but I guess the bottom line is all about cost and making money.
@ebonyloveivory
@ebonyloveivory 3 года назад
@@10AntsTapDancing It is all about profit margins in the end, sadly. 😫 From what I notice, even if they spare no expense, they will gear towards visually stimulating ideas and focus more on the storylines instead of worrying about accuracy.😅
@mayamuller9233
@mayamuller9233 3 года назад
Bernadette: *thoroughly explaining what they did and didn't get right* Me: *nodding along pretending I already knew everything*
@erinchristman2669
@erinchristman2669 3 года назад
Yup. Here's me expecting The Alienist to get Chef's Kiss and...nope... I did stop watching Self Made because the costumes were soooo atrocious I couldn't stand it, so I feel justified about that one.
@YourGirlRalph
@YourGirlRalph 3 года назад
@@erinchristman2669 Same, I expected more from The Alienist, I guess their budget went to everything else :)
@michiganscythian2445
@michiganscythian2445 2 года назад
Watch Prior Attire here on RU-vid she does layer by layer demos of various historical clothing, mostly women but some men’s outfits too.
@Tifa7767
@Tifa7767 3 года назад
“Why is she wearing bronzer?” Killed me
@cgm530
@cgm530 3 года назад
I think The Great's outfits are a design choice which match its other anachronisms. Like how the title cards say 'an occasionally true story', or how the dialogue mixes Shakespearean parody with 'fuck' every five seconds.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
that show is chaotic and i love it. it is consistent in its chaos, if that makes sense
@levisu430
@levisu430 Год назад
It's totally design choice... they tried to look "like russian" in 18 century. The dress for coronation and a "fantasy" by kokoshnik was look so weird ...
@emilyrimer9967
@emilyrimer9967 3 года назад
In fairness, we aren't so much watching Enola Holmes for the historical accuracy as we are to just stare at Henry Cavill....
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 3 года назад
I can’t argue with this...
@skyem5574
@skyem5574 3 года назад
Facts....
@catofthecastle1681
@catofthecastle1681 3 года назад
I was sooo afraid to tell Bernadette that!
@ArtemisScribe
@ArtemisScribe 3 года назад
It's so weird seeing a buff Sherlock Holmes. Just so wrong on so many levels. My Holmes loving buddies and I have dubbed him Sherlock Himbo.
@kungfukitten6735
@kungfukitten6735 3 года назад
Go to horny jail
@weefungarian3789
@weefungarian3789 3 года назад
I was an extra on the Great, Russian Peasant #17. 😂 The ladies who dressed us were really conscious of the time and detail. I remember one of them was even particular about how this random woman’s boot was laced, even if there was 0.01% chance that it would be on screen.
@PizzaHorseProductions
@PizzaHorseProductions 3 года назад
I loved how the noblewomen wore their wigs as hats
@StabsWithPaste
@StabsWithPaste 3 года назад
The Great really gave me the vibe that they used details from the time period/ silhouettes but modern materials/ styling. I thought it was actually really good for the series, which is not in anyway historically accurate. Like the series, the clothes used period details ( or people) to convey a modern story.
@catherinejustcatherine1778
@catherinejustcatherine1778 3 года назад
This is fascinating and assuring to know, thank you so much for sharing.
@Agnessa92
@Agnessa92 3 года назад
I was an extra in some II WW film (don't remember the title, it was German), the dressing team asked us to specifically wear a non wired bras and some looser undies. For the extras that wouldn't be really in focus
@lushiousification
@lushiousification 3 года назад
@@PizzaHorseProductions apparently that’s fairly historically accurate. Russia was trying to be apart of Europe at the time (culturally speaking) but it’s not like they had many references for what was in fashion, at least that’s what I remember reading somewhere, I could be totally off base
@hwchen39
@hwchen39 3 года назад
Dear Bernadette, as a Chinese art historian I really appreciate that you acknowledged that there is a great deal of specialization inherent in studying the dress of different cultures and time periods. With Chinese dress, in particular, different types of dress tend to be associated with different dynasties. What people wore can be impacted by things we don't necessarily think about today. For example during the Tang Dynasty (7th-10th c.) women wore very thin, almost ethereal-looking, clothing. A famous type is the qixiong ruqun which would have been secured underneath the armpits. Whereas during the Ming Dynasty (14th-17th) women tended to wear long, pleated skirts and a long-sleeved blouse called aoqun that look much warmer. This is because the Tang Dynasty was one of the warmer dynasties and the Ming Dynasty was relatively colder. Even between the two dynasties that I tend to specialize in: the Ming and Qing there are quite a bit of difference in the clothing. The Ming dynasty was ruled by Han Chinese leaders and the Qing Dynasty was ruled by ethnically Manchurian leaders so you see the ways this translates into the clothing. The sleeves become more narrow rather than the wide Han-style sleeves because the Manchurians were nomadic people who rode horses and practiced archery. I think my issue with Mulan was less with the design of the clothing and more that it felt very surface level in its commitment to portraying "accurate" Chinese culture because it looked like a Chinese story but didn't feel like one. Not to mention the whole issue of shooting in Xinjiang while ignoring the Uighar concentration camps was a choice, Disney. Also bonus fact! The image of the calligraphy of the ballad of Mulan you showed was written by Mi Fu, a famous Song dynasty calligrapher, who was by all accounts a total eccentric weirdo who liked collecting and inscribing on rock faces.
@thejascam
@thejascam 3 года назад
this is so interesting!! thank you
@hannahk1306
@hannahk1306 3 года назад
I know it's older, but it would be good to hear your take on "Anne with an E". They talk quite a lot about what it's acceptable for different people (particularly women) to be wearing based on age and class. It would be interesting to know how accurate it is.
@amazingzie378
@amazingzie378 2 года назад
Abby Cox talked about it in her Not Like Other Girls video.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
Didnt Bernadette already say in a previous review video ,,here’s my review: the costumes are fine” for Anne with an E?
@rachelspencer9456
@rachelspencer9456 3 года назад
I feel like you needed a “...They didn’t even try” tier. Lol
@Ryujin713
@Ryujin713 3 года назад
Underneath "they ... tried" is an even worse tier "... but did they try tho?"
@sonipitts
@sonipitts 3 года назад
@@Ryujin713 *cough*EnolaHolmes*cough*
@leynatheonly8628
@leynatheonly8628 3 года назад
F**k yeah!!!!
@roisinhackett4320
@roisinhackett4320 3 года назад
yes for Enola Holmes .... I didn't watch the film, but I saw Katerina's review
@MsVorpalBlade
@MsVorpalBlade 3 года назад
"They Tried" is Bernadette's euphemism for "Hot Mess"
@regineclairemanglicmot9059
@regineclairemanglicmot9059 3 года назад
The fact that the thumbnail for Little Women is just a close up of the uggs absolutely sends me
@davidshi451
@davidshi451 3 года назад
I love Micarah Tewers review of Little Women, it's so chaotic, incisive, and has Bernadette's approval!
@Spelaea
@Spelaea 3 года назад
Except the uggs were never actually in the movie, wasn't that a production still someone took? The actress was clearly wearing them because they were more comfortable and not visible in the shot, anyway
@jessicasmith1766
@jessicasmith1766 3 года назад
@@Spelaea yep. Uggs are pretty common on-set footwear. You see them all the time in set pictures.
@sarahal-zahrani1960
@sarahal-zahrani1960 3 года назад
🤣🤣 I never noticed until she mentioned it in a video. It was pretty sad that it was intended in the film and not a mistake.
@valeskacanas9187
@valeskacanas9187 3 года назад
Micarah Tewers vid on little women was awesome! Costume CO is also a great channel and looks at fantasy, sci fi and so on.
@juliusroman8616
@juliusroman8616 3 года назад
I watched Merlin and was internally dying at the sight of modern clothes and modern makeup. And I think Merlin would have really benefited from actual medieval clothes!
@bookcrazy001
@bookcrazy001 3 года назад
Same
@venelitedahl7322
@venelitedahl7322 2 года назад
True it could maybe be in "It was a design choice" as it takes place in a magical World. But the hair and makeup was very mordern
@fairylen7385
@fairylen7385 2 года назад
Ugh totally although I still enjoyed it so at least it was able to be overlooked, at least by a ten year old haha
@stareyedwitch
@stareyedwitch 2 года назад
The costumes, the makeup, the hair, the architecture, the saddles and briddles, the "ancient language of magic" ... there is very little in that show that is historically accurate. The acting is bad or mediocre, but none of them are phoning it in.... The plots are so-so... But it's silly and fun, and the bromance between Merlin and Arthur is adorable.
@susanbutler3102
@susanbutler3102 Год назад
If it's supposed to be a retelling of the Arthurian tales it should set in the Dark Ages, not Medieval times.
@NotQuiteSaulsbury
@NotQuiteSaulsbury 3 года назад
I don't think I realized just how well Bernadette knows clothes until I watched this video. Her being able to tell a difference of a couple of years by the shape of the sleeves is like--well, my specialty is 50s-70s American vehicles, and this is like me knowing the difference between a '65 and a '66 C10 by where the badge is. And this woman's knowledge covers far more than 30 years and extends much farther back in history. What a legend.
@astute1001
@astute1001 3 года назад
On the "does it matter" question: I actually think showing historically accurate hair and makeup can be really valuable because it shows how arbitrary and changeable socially constructed beauty standards are. When you watch all these period pieces with historical clothing but modern hair and makeup, it creates a sense that today's styles are just this timeless definition of what a beautiful person looks like. On the other hand, when you see a gorgeous star wearing something that seems strange to our modern eyes, it reminds us of all the myriad ways a person can be beautiful. A greater appreciation for the diversity of human appearance is sorely needed in our society, so I think accurate hair and makeup is actually important.
@merrymachiavelli2041
@merrymachiavelli2041 3 года назад
I agree, but I guess there can be this tricky-to-navigate middle ground. If a character is particularly attractive or fashion-forward and that is relevant in-setting, then modern audiences need to know that, in-universe, other characters perceive them that way. It can be difficult to fully convey that given that we don't have the sensibilities of the time.
@zoeaargh
@zoeaargh 3 года назад
I watched a painting restoration video here on RU-vid where the guy removed an a painted-over face from an older painting -- one more modern era didn't find the woman beautiful so made her prettier by their standards! Was so cool to show how beauty has always always
@orthenight
@orthenight 3 года назад
As a hair and makeup artist I believe a lot these blasphemous instances are due to the actresses themselves not wanting to look “unattractive” by modern standards. You see this even in modern film & television shows. Whether it be characters who are stranded in the desert with their hair & makeup still perfect, or characters who are months or years into a prison sentence with perfectly bleached hair and false eyelashes. Many actresses, especially the older and more famous they are, have control over these things written into their contract. They’re not willing to look “unattractive” on camera no matter how unrealistic it is for the character.
@user-hg6qq6gx8t
@user-hg6qq6gx8t 3 года назад
@@zoeaargh do you have a link?
@anarosa2705
@anarosa2705 3 года назад
Great insight!
@MsEwaGie
@MsEwaGie 3 года назад
Just a fun fact about Marie Skłodowska Curie - she had one dress for years - as written in her biography by her daughter Eve: 'This dress, which she kept for years and years, to be transformed from time to time by a little dressmaker (...) Marie knew nothing of fashions and had no taste. But the discretion and reserve which were the very mark of her character saved her being conspicuous and created a sort of style in her dress' (Eve Curie - 'Madame Curie, a Biography' page 230)
@sonipitts
@sonipitts 3 года назад
Ooooo...that's so interesting, and really adds a lot to fleshing out her character as a person. Today she'd totally be one of those lab rats with 5 of the same black everything, living on Huel and giving no fucks for a single thing that goes on outside the key-carded doors. :-D
@rustynails8756
@rustynails8756 3 года назад
Very interesting thx for sharing
@KatushkaM
@KatushkaM 3 года назад
Thanks for using her full name! 🙌
@CptBlm
@CptBlm 3 года назад
@@KatushkaM why is it important to use her full name? :o
@alicjajarzyna4910
@alicjajarzyna4910 3 года назад
@@CptBlm Well sometimes people forget that she's polish I even saw someone calling her british once. Since I am from Poland it's pretty obvious to call her by the full name.
@beerudy
@beerudy 2 года назад
I think with Catherine the great specifically the hair down was a choice. She has her hair down initially to show her innocence and youth. After she realizes that Peter is not what she hoped for her hair goes up.
@abbakarenina
@abbakarenina 3 года назад
About Ammonite, I read an interview with Francis Lee (the director) where he said that when he arrived on location at the house they filmed in he immediately noticed that the door handles were inaccurate for the era and he tried to get them changed but they couldn’t delay filming on such a tight budget - I guess it’s a shame that they technically don’t get a 100% score for accuracy because of them, but I just love that he cared so much, and did so much research that his white whale was DOOR HANDLES
@teapotlizard
@teapotlizard Год назад
omg i LOVE that
@Mimiroo
@Mimiroo 3 года назад
I’m a costumer in film and television so I can add a little bit to your comment on The Great! From my experience the pilot/first episode is shot with a completely different team and sometimes a year in advance to the first season. Once a show is confirmed to be picked up then they hire the team for that coming season, sometimes it’s the same designer but usually it’s someone different. I’ve worked on shows where the pilot continuity was so bad we’ve had to go back and reshoot a lot! Also editing to add, the amount of times I’ve worked with a designer who spends massive amount of times arguing with the head of Hair and Makeup because they haven’t done proper research on the era we’re shooting is RIDICULOUS!! Not just for historical shows but for 50’s-80’s, it takes away from all the research and work we in the Wardrobe department do trying to recreate decades properly 😭😭
@carms.creative
@carms.creative 3 года назад
oh wow yeah that explains a lot here. Thanks for the insight!
@lucie4185
@lucie4185 3 года назад
Shout out to you lovely people who do such amazing work and don't get the credit you deserve ❤
@sweetlorikeet
@sweetlorikeet 3 года назад
I feel so much for the designers who pour their souls into creating a rich and genuine immersive world with the costumes and then someone from Makeup breaks out the bronzer
@deliawallace4426
@deliawallace4426 3 года назад
I trained as a make-up artist for film & tv back in 1999 (I don't still do make-up) and one of the things we were taught was to research the time period and how to do different lip shapes, eyebrows,colours etc, it annoys me how it doesn't happen so much now!
@natashah9768
@natashah9768 3 года назад
I did hair and makeup for a musical theatre program for years and took immense pride in the amount of work I put into accuracy. Let me tell you, a LOT of girls tried to convince me that just curling their hair would be enough. You wish, kid. This is the Music Man and you're playing an old woman. No loose ringlets or beach waves for you lol
@EyreAffair
@EyreAffair 3 года назад
Time for Bernadette to do a full costume review of "Bridgerton", now that the show is out on Netflix!
@katarinawikholm5873
@katarinawikholm5873 3 года назад
I can forgive the costumes as an ”it was a design choice”, but I like the oldfashioned 18th century style on the Queen and her attendants, the very pristine style of Daphne, the over the top colours and decoration of the Featherington ladies (the seamstress in the series even comments on this!). It’s definitely not historically accurate and they’re not really trying to be. Marina’s hair, though. *winces*
@jenniferb4764
@jenniferb4764 3 года назад
That pair of stilettos in epi 2 killed me!!
@EileenYoung89
@EileenYoung89 3 года назад
To some extent the 18th century style on the Queen is accurate! Queen Charlotte had super rigid rules about what people could wear at Court: the narrow trains and all white and feathers on the girls to be presented is accurate, though they should also have been wearing deeply unflattering hoops under their gowns. She was Queen, she could dictate what people wore at the royal Drawing Rooms, and she did and everyone suffered for it.
@joannaglasby2596
@joannaglasby2596 3 года назад
Yes! I came to request this. I’m one prisoner 5 and my (severely) untrained eye can see some definite style choices and some other things they got really right based on other Bernadette videos
@kaie.6323
@kaie.6323 3 года назад
I also really really need this, because it would be great to have her thorough breakdown of everything, but also because I need my rage at all the corsets with nothing underneath them validated haha
@hanbinwifey1723
@hanbinwifey1723 2 года назад
she is literally how my mom expected me to speak-eloquent, educational, knowledgeable, and not just mumbling and mash words togethers to make new word
@onandonitgoes5957
@onandonitgoes5957 2 года назад
One can do both. In fact it's better to know how to use and understand both. It helps not to perpetuate the stereotype of making people with formal education automatically into educated morons, and may relieve some of the social pressure on certain demographics *not* to go to college.
@abigailw7146
@abigailw7146 Год назад
masword!
@cassnnyl
@cassnnyl 3 года назад
Can you do this every year? I really liked this format. Highly entertaining and I added a couple new films and shows to my watch list.
@margoadams3471
@margoadams3471 2 года назад
Ditto! I'd seen some but it definitely added more! Lol
@evita6208
@evita6208 2 года назад
Same. I usually find lesser known movies through recommendations made by my favorite youtubers.
@meldixj
@meldixj 2 года назад
I loved the format as well! it's like an overview of historical productions, and good comments! (personally curious about Cruella review from 2021)
@McRambleOn
@McRambleOn 2 года назад
I found this after viewing her 2021 ranking videos and definitely took some screenshots of the TV/film lists in her description boxes, and also of suggestions people made in the comments abt examples she didn’t cover. I’m a sucker for period pieces like, I assume, a majority of ppl viewing these ranking vids… I’m happy they were so popular and got a ton of views! 👍🏻 So I def. appreciate Bernadette’s rankings for their own merits, but also bc they’re helpful referrals I’m DESPERATELY in need of at this pt. in time like, I also assume, many others are (haha); which helped me add some shows/films to my bare bones watch lists 😁; they even helped me give some recs for my husband & family members whom are fantasy fans! Thanks Bernadette!
@JustinesMic
@JustinesMic 3 года назад
gentleman jack: chef’s kiss costuming ammonite: chef’s kiss costuming me: ah, i see the sapphics have done it again
@eflarsen
@eflarsen 3 года назад
wlw are all about the aesthetics of it so like. when we're given control of aesthetics we go HARD for the Look^tm
@twobluestripes
@twobluestripes 3 года назад
I feel like if it’s a story about lesbians, everyone just gets to slide under the radar and avoid the executive micromanagers because they assume no one will want to see it. More creative control for the history-nerd designers and filmmakers! Best case scenario!
@MsVorpalBlade
@MsVorpalBlade 3 года назад
I was actually hoping that Portrait Of A Woman On Fire would be reviewed/ranked, even though I saw it last year
@asherfriedman877
@asherfriedman877 3 года назад
I wanted to see Dickenson ranked but I think it's 2019 not 2020 could be wrong though
@tz64nk41
@tz64nk41 3 года назад
@@MsVorpalBlade I think that's a 2019 film by US release date. I only managed to see it in '19 because I went to a festival though, it wasn't out in my country (UK) until February this year!
@rburns8083
@rburns8083 3 года назад
Watching Bernadette as her battery is about to die while my battery is about to die is not the shared experience I imagined when I joined the patreon group. I must say, I give the live chats a much higher approval rating.
@bernadettebanner
@bernadettebanner 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣 0/10, did not meet expectations
@amandahibbs3690
@amandahibbs3690 Год назад
Now I need to see you tear into the Second Enola Holmes…since that PINPOINTS the timeline
@Scarson1216
@Scarson1216 3 года назад
As a history student and just-for-fun historian, I’m so impressed with your range of knowledge on historical dress. I can generally get the gist of trends but not the specifics so it’s so cool seeing your explanations.
@SyrinaSinger
@SyrinaSinger 3 года назад
if you watch bridgerton, get ready to get mad because not only do they not wear undergarments under their corsets, there are TWO scenes in the first ep alone that use tight lacing AND even show bruising from the corset
@lestranged
@lestranged 3 года назад
what would even be the point of tight lacing under an empire waist gown? All the pain and no one can see your tiny waist
@anthonydelfino6171
@anthonydelfino6171 3 года назад
@@lestranged not only that, but the beauty standard of the Regency period was for a more plump figure to show off that you had enough money to eat well. Why would these people be trying to make themselves look poor by lacing in their waists so small?? And why would the mother be fat shaming her daughter when she would have been considered the ideal for the time?
@MorganMairi
@MorganMairi 3 года назад
This isn’t about the costume design but the show also romanticises male r*pe. If that scene was reversed and it was the duke on top of Daphne then Netflix would have been cancelled immediately (again).
@SyrinaSinger
@SyrinaSinger 3 года назад
@@anthonydelfino6171 the costumes were beautiful and other than the corsetting, i thought they were pretty good! "it was a design choice" was the perfect category
@wyster14
@wyster14 3 года назад
@@lestranged for the style of the time, your chest also had to be allocated a little higher, because the waist was so close, so it helped push it up for the fashionable silhouette, plus also bust support from a corset is just absolutely great
@strangekittyca
@strangekittyca 3 года назад
Bottom tier: "Did you use Spirit Halloween for wardrobe?!"
@Nikki-tx6kh
@Nikki-tx6kh 3 года назад
Or 'I could have found something more accurate in H&M'
@sonipitts
@sonipitts 3 года назад
See also: "It's a shame the Hot Topic store in the mall got closed and we can't return these."
@ash-vj5vn
@ash-vj5vn 3 года назад
Alternatively: wish.com haul gone wrong
@sonipitts
@sonipitts 3 года назад
@@ash-vj5vn To be fair, do Wish hauls ever go RIGHT?
@ash-vj5vn
@ash-vj5vn 3 года назад
@@sonipitts LMAO you right
@visionsofjanuary798
@visionsofjanuary798 3 года назад
They definitely should have brought in a Chinese designer for Mulan. As one who has researched Song Dynasty clothing, finding resources in English is incredibly hard. The best resources are all in Chinese and haven't been translated.
@seriouslatte9167
@seriouslatte9167 2 года назад
​@samantha ssmith a) majority of pictures that are detailed enough to study only depicted expensive noble clothes because notable or famous people were usually the only people artists bothered to draw and b) good design goes so much beyond looking at century-old drawings - you need to understand the fabrics, the available dyes, the cultural context and practicalities that created these trends, and above all, an in-depth understanding of what truly characterized the era and set it apart from other periods to faithfully create an accurate recreation and to design creatively while protecting the integrity of accuracy for instance, mulan's make-up scene is awful. watch xiran jay zhao's video for more details, but while they used (mostly) accurate substances, they applied them in an inaccurate and offensive way for a cheap joke making fun of ancient chinese makeup practices. and even when they did have pictures, they didn't use them lmao. mulan's residence is 土楼, ring buildings with an open-air space inside, which is characteristically southern when mulan is a northern story.
@seriouslatte9167
@seriouslatte9167 Год назад
@samantha ssmith historical faithfulness is important for a historically placed movie. the fact that it's a Disney move means that it's a major presentation of Chinese culture to a western audience, which means that a HEAVIER emphasis should be placed on accuracy. also, misrepresenting fashion and adopting a different era in an ancient chinese media would be like using bowler hats, viking helmets, and roman tunics to represent tudor era england. the idea that chinese fashion is the same from era to era is an ignorant approach and diminishes the distinct nature of each period. but at the end of the day, it's just a fun historically inspired movie, so it shouldn't matter, right? no. why do you think people were so upset at other historical shows having awful clothes? because it misrepresents the setting of the story. even then I wouldn't care if Disney didn't misrepresent their movie as some sort of extremely accurate beacon of Chinese culture, which they used to make a number of changes and film near ughyur camps and in their marketing. it's tacky. and all of my statements are in regards to ALL historically set movies produced by someone about a culture they don't belong to, particularly ones that are grounded specifically in a certain time period.
@sabaisapanda2740
@sabaisapanda2740 3 года назад
Weren’t the Ugg’s in little women a picture from behind the scenes when they were taking a break? Lol
@user-mv9tt4st9k
@user-mv9tt4st9k 3 года назад
People keep pointing that out about the Ugg boot image. Aside from that, the older girls/women wore their hair down, did not wear bonnets or hair coverings, and likely did not wear proper underclothing. In short: they had too modern a look to them.
@jaimeguerrero7320
@jaimeguerrero7320 3 года назад
@Isabella Kohler They did. The costumes weren't very accurate at all.
@branastasia8013
@branastasia8013 3 года назад
@Isabella Kohler That still doesn’t invalidate that their hairs were down, something that won’t happen back in the days
@pavladavlas
@pavladavlas 3 года назад
@Isabella Kohler um... did you watch the video? Criticising was the whole point.
@chocothebananacat7686
@chocothebananacat7686 2 года назад
@Isabella Kohler But underclothes played a large part in the structure of the dress back then, so if someone was to wear the wrong underclothes, you'd be able to tell as the dress would not be the right shape.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 3 года назад
“Happy floof noises” make me so happy, because a happy guinea pig is a vocal guinea pig 🥰
@eliflames5157
@eliflames5157 3 года назад
and such a adorable floof
@nopethanks8316
@nopethanks8316 3 года назад
I would honestly appreciate a rant about historically accurate makeup and hair in movies that sounds very interesting
@lauraleecreations3217
@lauraleecreations3217 3 года назад
SAME❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@SparkleFeyed
@SparkleFeyed 3 года назад
I vote for this as well. A lot of people review costumes, but rarely do they mention hair and makeup!
@lucyj8204
@lucyj8204 3 года назад
Yes, that would be fascinating!
@MissHoyden
@MissHoyden 3 года назад
Eyebrows too
@ambervanreijn2199
@ambervanreijn2199 3 года назад
Yes please
@missartist123
@missartist123 3 года назад
I RAGED when I saw stilettos being worn in Bridgerton. In the beginning of the show, it literally said it was the year 1812. 😤
@amazingzie378
@amazingzie378 2 года назад
Oh my! 🤣
@DawaLhamo
@DawaLhamo 2 года назад
@samantha ssmith - and yet, that's a plausible reading of history. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_of_Mecklenburg-Strelitz The show is definitely intentionally set in an AU but that part at least has some attestation where it may be possible.
@tink6225
@tink6225 2 года назад
i literally rewatched emma like 3 times because i couldnt pull my eyes off of the costumes
@kyrier9827
@kyrier9827 3 года назад
I'm sorry. But the whole time I was too distracted by the guniepigs in dresses in the the background
@JukelMikel
@JukelMikel 3 года назад
Oh my God! Thank God i read your content 😂 I want one now
@yasminhexe
@yasminhexe 3 года назад
How dare you speak like that about His Lordship?! XD
@paddysun8093
@paddysun8093 3 года назад
It‘s by her sibling and here is the „making of“ m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uXe41FiND7o.html
@sarah_noodle
@sarah_noodle 3 года назад
Those are the royal portraits of His Lordship Cesario.
@Magdalen2255
@Magdalen2255 3 года назад
Thanks for pointing those out!! I hadn't noticed!!!
@Jane-ss1pg
@Jane-ss1pg 3 года назад
Fun collabs for next year (if your year isn't completely planned out already) could be teaming up with RU-vidrs of color who might know more about the costumes of films like Mulan, K-dramas set in the Joseon dynasty, or Bollywood movies. I'm slight Bollywood trash and I suspect that period films from there are like films/shows of the West: some good, some not so good.
@bernadettebanner
@bernadettebanner 3 года назад
That is 10000% the plan! Particularly dress historians and academics who specialize in different cultures/eras!
@musiccubed2650
@musiccubed2650 3 года назад
@Shashwat Verma I've had my issues with Bollywood period dramas. Especially the ones that try to do Western fashion. There was one movie called Rustom that was set in the late 1950s and the costuming for that was absolutely horrendous. There really isn't an excuse to be made because Bollywood films from the 1950s sometimes had the heroine in western fashion or the extras were wearing western clothing. And the costume designer for the movie I'm talking about could've easily looked at that. But like you say, the more arthouse films pay more attention to the costuming.
@saint-miscreant
@saint-miscreant 3 года назад
If you do Mulan it might be fun to touch on the film Mulan: Rise of a Warrior which is a Chinese-made gritty take on the Mulan legend, and very much non-Disneyfied! The costumes in that one are mostly armour, but there are some shots of villages and Mulan in female clothing which might be interesting.
@insulaarachnid
@insulaarachnid 3 года назад
I would love to see this!
@lajoyous1568
@lajoyous1568 3 года назад
@@musiccubed2650 I understand what you mean by "western clothes", but my brain keeps throwing me images of Bollywood in cowboy hats and chaps 😳...my apologies.
@elizaRose8900
@elizaRose8900 2 года назад
I remember reading the enola homes books in 6th grade and I always assumed that it was very accurate clothing-wise because her clothing was such a big part of her investigating and detective work she'd use it to disguise herself or to hide things because of the multiple layers. The book starts off with her mother making off of the family fortune by hiding it in the padding of her dress
@Alphasnowbordergirl
@Alphasnowbordergirl Год назад
You were very right. Bridgerton was very much a design choice, feeling very fantastical and story book throughout the show.
@jakemonkey7
@jakemonkey7 3 года назад
"I'm trash for anything set in history" is a phrase that just hits SO hard as a history major
@emmyfischer307
@emmyfischer307 3 года назад
Yep, same here:)
@marielleaballe9228
@marielleaballe9228 3 года назад
other images in the template: * movie/show posters * Little Women: *u g g s*
@christiana_mandalynn
@christiana_mandalynn 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@jessicaknox4837
@jessicaknox4837 3 года назад
Oh good, someone else spotted this too 🤣🤣🤣 subtle shade is satisfying shade!
@elliel4736
@elliel4736 3 года назад
I forgot that Little Women came out this year. It seems so long ago.
@annamermaid6359
@annamermaid6359 3 года назад
@@elliel4736 because, in 2020, with aaaalll of the available research, they put the leads in friggin u g g s. UGGS! And they didn't even try with, like, anything.
@ThatCrazyBookWyrm
@ThatCrazyBookWyrm 3 года назад
@@annamermaid6359 Not to be ~that person~ but they did try with literally everything else. Yes, the costuming is wild, but the movie is incredible and definitely worth a watch. It sucks because I agree with the costuming critique but it was one of my favorite movies I've seen in a long time and the only coverage it gets on YT is my favorite fashion historical/design channels hating on it :(
@marpheus1
@marpheus1 2 года назад
"We don't understand that these people were more like us then we think they were", now THAT'S a quote!
@stefanlaskowski6660
@stefanlaskowski6660 2 года назад
I'm a male writing a science fiction novel about a young 21st century woman who is magically transported back to 1861. Being a serious history buff, I've tried being as historically accurate as possible within the context of the story. After watching a couple of your and Karolina's videos, I had to completely rewrite the section where she gets her first corset because she (and I) had totally bought the modern view of corsets and Civil War era clothing. It's actually been kind of fun having my expectations subverted by reality. 😁
@be3tlejuyce461
@be3tlejuyce461 3 года назад
My mum is a fashion historian with a PhD in it and watching shows like this with her is a nightmare ahaha. She can’t focus on the show because she’s so annoyed about the clothes! She just made a costume course for designing clothing for TV! First one in England :)
@KristaHannesen
@KristaHannesen 3 года назад
That’s so cool!
@yasminhexe
@yasminhexe 3 года назад
Can you tell me what it's called? The course I mean
@be3tlejuyce461
@be3tlejuyce461 3 года назад
@@yasminhexe costume design for film and tv at Falmouth uni!
@aprilavery2002
@aprilavery2002 3 года назад
My husband was a Navy pilot and he ruins all related shows. Most notably Top Gun. I haven’t forgiven him for that so I feel your pain.
@madelinebeatlesgirl
@madelinebeatlesgirl 3 года назад
That’s so awesome!!
@Rehvengethedragon
@Rehvengethedragon 3 года назад
It's always so nice when they specifically pick an actress who would fit the aesthetics of the time period instead of whatever Hollywood actress is most popular.
@samiraansari5686
@samiraansari5686 3 года назад
Well, I don‘t mind them having actresses that don‘t fit the aestethic of the period in the movies, as long as it‘s clear that they are not considered to be the ultimate beauty in the story. Because let‘s be honest: There have always been people who don‘t „fit“ with the general beauty standard, and that‘s fine. It‘s just weird when the movie then pretends like they actually do fit.
@katharinajohnson2761
@katharinajohnson2761 3 года назад
Yes!! I love to see features accurate to the time period’s beauty standards. It really helps me forget about the modern world.
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 3 года назад
Casting unknown actors/actresses seems to work.
@tink6225
@tink6225 3 года назад
not really historic but Anya Taylor joy did it for me
@ihateyou01
@ihateyou01 3 года назад
@@tink6225 well it is because its in the 60s :)
@thebreakdownartist9260
@thebreakdownartist9260 3 года назад
The woman in the Bridgertons who was out of period dress was supposed to be Queen Charlotte who used to wear 18c and liked the formality .. however, she wasn't even alive when the books are set 1840s.
@doreenalsen7652
@doreenalsen7652 2 года назад
The books are set in the Regency around the time of 1815 and upwards. I know the 4th, 5th, and 6th books are set in 1824. When the series starts, Queen Charlotte is alive and George 3 still alive. George 4 is the regent the period is named after. 1840 is Victorian, not Regency.
@Fyreflier
@Fyreflier 3 года назад
I rewatched a bit of The Greatest Showman after this because your blasphemous category is what made me realise why I'm not fully enamoured with it. The hair, makeup, and even some of the women's dresses just pull me right out of the time period and I was wondering if you might ever include it in a video like this
@kokirivivi
@kokirivivi 3 года назад
A movie that suprised me with mostly historically accurate costumes was "A Muppets Chrstmas Carol". It's the Muppets, they didn't need to be that accurate and yet they did anyway! If the Muppets can do it, so can other movies.
@davidshi451
@davidshi451 3 года назад
Oh yeah! I loved Abby Cox's video review of it, it's astounding!
@MonaLisa-zz5cv
@MonaLisa-zz5cv 3 года назад
I just watched that yesterday! I love it!
@ainigmatistudio
@ainigmatistudio 3 года назад
The best Christmas movie ever!
@jacquelynmiller4714
@jacquelynmiller4714 3 года назад
Yes! I just watched it for the first time the other day and was so surprised.
@helenyoung41
@helenyoung41 3 года назад
There’s an account on Twitter called The Bill & Ted Test based on this premise - if a single throwaway (regency) scene in a Bill & Ted movie can achieve costuming excellence, actual historical dramas really aught to be able to. It’s a really fun account to follow.
@sonipitts
@sonipitts 3 года назад
Come for the hot historical tea, stay for the devastatingly adorable floof-burbling in the sponsor segment.
@abacaxipineapple9147
@abacaxipineapple9147 2 года назад
I think it’s really good how Bernadette handles areas she has less knowledge. She acknowledges her lack of expertise, but still does her best to represent it as well as she can and looks to others with more knowledge and cultural understanding. So much respect!
@dianacherry1411
@dianacherry1411 3 года назад
Ugh yes!! I watched "Emma." twice in two days because it was a tasteful, beautifully done adaptation. 🤍
@laniwiens6574
@laniwiens6574 2 года назад
the costuming. was beautiful, but they messed with the actual story line in a way I could not appreciate, I much preferred the Gwyneth Paltrow version.
@dianacherry1411
@dianacherry1411 2 года назад
@@laniwiens6574 Ah I understand. Reminds me how most people prefer the Pride and Predjudice series to the movie as it's more true to the book but I still love the art of the movie. Each to their own!
@keridinsmore5181
@keridinsmore5181 3 года назад
I shudder to think what "historically accurate" dress will be for something set in the 2000s when I'm 95 years old in a nursing home yelling at my grandkids about Laguna Beach, The Hills, and Jersey Shore
@grannyweatherwax8005
@grannyweatherwax8005 3 года назад
OMG. Compelled to respond because I get crazed over this. As someone who lived the 80s and 90s, and was very into fashion, really no shows do these accurately. Most not even close. If we can’t create accuracy with lived history that was also extremely well documented, something centuries old seems futile. Though I still love the attempts.
@delaniallen7970
@delaniallen7970 3 года назад
tell me why I read laguna as lasagna 😂😭
@keridinsmore5181
@keridinsmore5181 3 года назад
@@delaniallen7970 putting Lasagna Beach on my post-COVID trips bucket list, sounds way more satisfying and fulfilling anyway lol
@victoriatowns9237
@victoriatowns9237 3 года назад
“HIGH WAISTED JEANS?! IN 2005?! BACK IN MY DAY WE WORE OUR JEANS SO LOW THAT THERE WAS A PHRASE JUST TO DESCRIBE HOW OUR UNDERWEAR SHOWED OVER THE WAISTBAND! AND THOSE ARENT CAPRIS, THOSE ARE CULOTTES! WHERE. IS. THE. BLING. ON. THE. BACK. POCKETS! DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE MAKEUP! CUT CREASES WERENT A THING UNTIL THE 2010s!”
@caelidhg6261
@caelidhg6261 3 года назад
No.. think about the Dollar General fuzzy pyjama bottoms and bunny slippers with a tshirt with some cutsy/sexually inappropriate innuendo on it.. shudder
@daffo595
@daffo595 3 года назад
As someone who is chinese i can say a lot of chinese designers take a lot of uh... cReAtIvE LiBeRtY when it comes to designing costumes for their own historical period dramas. As a chinese youtuber once said, most of chinese historical literature is is just fan fiction. But if future videos do feature other cultures and historical clothing can i just nominate Five thousand Years and ShiYin as tribute?
@munirahbakar4123
@munirahbakar4123 3 года назад
I love watching costume C-drama but it's polyester galore over there! More than once I've seen a non-royalty character wearing YELLOW! 🤦
@tiio2208
@tiio2208 3 года назад
I assume you also watch Xiran Jay Zhao? :)
@kathrynvincent1563
@kathrynvincent1563 3 года назад
Apparently the half up half down hair in place of historical hairstyles for prettiness is a worldwide phenomenon. Fun human things :)
@SmokyDeerEyes
@SmokyDeerEyes 3 года назад
I am not chinese but I am curious about how well Nirvana in Fire stands up to historical accuracy
@kytyoy5694
@kytyoy5694 3 года назад
I mean Rise of the Phoenix probably isn't historically accurate, BUT the fashion looks realistic and isn't made from that cheap polyester plastic stuff. There was an actual effort put into the whole 70+ episodes.
@MsQjoe
@MsQjoe 2 года назад
I really love that in the 2021 version of this you brought in other experts in different cultural periods to fill in the gaps in your own knowledge. I hope you keep doing that in future versions of this. :)
@alittlepieceofreality
@alittlepieceofreality 3 года назад
Have you watched "Versailles"? I loved the show and I heard it's costumes are quite accurate but have no Idea wether that's true.
@isabelgarcia8133
@isabelgarcia8133 2 года назад
underrated comment, I’d like to know too
@levisu430
@levisu430 Год назад
Yessss great TV show ❤️
@veritygazzard7210
@veritygazzard7210 3 года назад
Alternative title: 30 minutes of Bernadette Banner trying not to scream at hair and makeup.
@thyhoang3413
@thyhoang3413 3 года назад
Yes
@thelamppineers
@thelamppineers 3 года назад
Brigerton is definitely a design choice. Even their music during their line dances were modern. 😄 This episode is very informative. Thanks.
@wyster14
@wyster14 3 года назад
I literally came in from the other room to point out the string version of Bad Guy xD
@GM-wq6kq
@GM-wq6kq 3 года назад
There is Wildest Dreams too.
@yoissmee1244
@yoissmee1244 3 года назад
And thank u, next
@SD-ko4tz
@SD-ko4tz 3 года назад
That is exactly what I dislike. For example ‘the tudors’ was extremely american. And there is this knight film with modern music. Unwatchable.
@ian_edits_
@ian_edits_ 3 года назад
It was honestly Reign 2.0 lol
@Veerletjuhful
@Veerletjuhful 3 года назад
I really liked Enola Holmes but even I could tell that it was historically inaccurate and I know nothing about historical fashion - it was just so darn inconsistent
@fibanocci314
@fibanocci314 Год назад
Which is especially a shame considering how important clothing and fashion are in the books!
@aliciaiguess7475
@aliciaiguess7475 3 года назад
I really wanted you to make a "Anne with an E" one
@danii1
@danii1 3 года назад
Yes!
@KD-nd5gu
@KD-nd5gu 3 года назад
Bernadette said she was not going to review that movie despite how many people requested her to do so.
@danii1
@danii1 3 года назад
@@KD-nd5gu Really? When?
@KD-nd5gu
@KD-nd5gu 3 года назад
@@danii1 In the video where she praises 5 period films that did really well in terms of accuracy. Bernadette said the costumes from Anne with an E are fine, but she's not going to do a separate review on it. I don't blame her since she must have gotten sick of the number of requests, while the costumes are quite unmemorable.
@danii1
@danii1 3 года назад
@@KD-nd5guOh well, I guess we are not getting an Anne with an E review. I'm kind of bummed out because I really like the series.
@ellenayres4575
@ellenayres4575 3 года назад
Unable to distinguish one white man from another white man is possibly the most relatable thing. Ever.
@triruns
@triruns 3 года назад
I'm a white bearded man and I agree completely.
@AB-es5py
@AB-es5py 3 года назад
Half of the male Avengers. All named Chris.
@marCHILLL
@marCHILLL 3 года назад
would be really helpful if Chinese and Korean would do that in their movies, they look all the same
@claymountain1300
@claymountain1300 3 года назад
Agreed, my first watch of Game of Thrones I thought they were all one guy, which made it significantly more difficult to follow.
@hayleyvandeberg2426
@hayleyvandeberg2426 3 года назад
Dead Poets Society was my first experience with that, and indeed: it is a struggle
@emilystjohn9176
@emilystjohn9176 3 года назад
Hi! I’m actually a costume design student in Los Angeles and the hair and makeup is a huge issue. There’s a big push in the union right now to get hair and makeup to fall under costume because in most cases currently it doesn’t. And then you get major issues like you mentioned. As designers it can be super frustrating.
@losermillie
@losermillie 3 года назад
I can’t imagine the amount of effort that’s put into clothing just to have them wearing nude pink lipgloss with beach waves and not having ANY control over it.
@Rivergirl2878
@Rivergirl2878 3 года назад
It seems they are really trying to give a slice of the cake to modern makeup “artists” who don’t have any qualifications besides basic beauty school.
@CheshieD
@CheshieD 3 года назад
It’s painful to watch honestly
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 3 года назад
I think when people saw something like LOTR Trilogy and saw the praise it got for makeup, art direction and costume design, they believe that you can do that in ANY FILM.
@Phoenixfiirestyles
@Phoenixfiirestyles 3 года назад
I’ve always wanted to see her talk about Anne with an E it’s my favorite show but I sadly do not know enough to criticize it. But from the untrained eye it looks quite good.
@amazingzie378
@amazingzie378 2 года назад
I’d recommend Abby Cox’s video where she rants about the “not like other girls” trope in historical dramas. Anne With An E is talked about in it.
@stopaskingforaname1
@stopaskingforaname1 3 года назад
I'm so glad Emma got top rating! When I watched the movie I was so happy of the accuracy! Those weird ass hair styles were there and didn't try to make it modern!!! It was something that really got on my nerves when doing research for fashion history watching movies get hair and makeup wrong when it's so complimentary to the dressing fashion of the moment
@lilith573
@lilith573 3 года назад
Don't forget the wonderful corset on skin scenes in the Alienist ~*screams like a banshee into the stays and corset slander abyss*~
@caitlinsmith5075
@caitlinsmith5075 3 года назад
I literally turned it off at that scene. I mean, it was losing me already, but when that happened I was just like naaaaaaaah
@Groganee
@Groganee 3 года назад
to be fair they didn't do it again in season 2, but yes that must have been a pretty shitty day for Dakota Fanning ^^
@__wm_
@__wm_ 3 года назад
GAAAHHHHH! I actually banshee shrieked at my poor watching partner about this at the time
@ZimVader-0017
@ZimVader-0017 3 года назад
I remember this Twitter post (I think I saw Karolina slamming them afterwards in the thread), where this girl was saying that corsets were dangerous because she wore one and got "tight laced" and couldn't breathe. She then posted a photo of her wearing it. The photo had two very evident problems: 1) she wasn't wearing anything underneath it, no shift, no combinations, nothing. 2) the thing was clearly at least two sizes smaller than what her ideal fit would be. It's not the corset's fault if you didn't bother to measure yourself correctly. She then went on to say that she had experience with period clothing, but clearly she didn't if she didn't know that she had to wear something underneath it.
@brandielee7971
@brandielee7971 3 года назад
"... Which takes place in 1897 **not that you would know it**" SO MUCH SHADE
@janegoodall2520
@janegoodall2520 3 года назад
I enjoyed the critical perspective here, after following some of your sewing videos. Since we're on the quest for accuracy, 'modern' doesn't mean 'now'. It's a term used in different ways by historians ('modern' can be used for periods going back to Restoration), but the belle epoch, in which many of these are set, is pretty much the defining era for 'modern.'
@pheart2381
@pheart2381 3 года назад
Bernadette "mens clothing..doesnt change a whole lot..." Zack Pinsent "hold my cocktail!"
@moriahw3947
@moriahw3947 3 года назад
TBH I feel like screaming whenever the infamous Little Women Uggs debacle comes out - the photo was a behind the scenes long shot of the actresses in modern, foot preserving shoes for waist-up shots. In the film itself, NO Uggs are seen and in the long shot that makes it to the final cut, they are all, in fact, wearing historically accurate shoes.
@scottfinkelstein9865
@scottfinkelstein9865 3 года назад
It would have been pretty easy to bring in historically accurate winter boots that would have been at least as warm, though, and that would have improved the wide shots.
@moriahw3947
@moriahw3947 3 года назад
​ @Scott Finkelstein Have you ever seen behind the scenes photos of actors wearing 18th century gowns and puffer coats? I think production companies find it in their best interests to make their stars' comfort the #1 priority...not everyone has the method acting determination of Viggo Mortensen as Aragorn ;)
@Cecilia13241
@Cecilia13241 3 года назад
Even in the film though, their clothing was so loose fitting and not really historically accurate, except for maybe one dress that Meg wears to the dance. And their HAIR omg, was loose and down, not really accurate (except for maybe the youngest sister). But also this is just a film and maybe they were symbolizing their 'free spirits' and modernity of ideas for the time period. But for me, these details or lack of, really took me out of the movie.
@urugozo
@urugozo 3 года назад
It does seem unfair to judge the accuracy of the movie based on behind the cameras shots. But, they had nearly no bonnets in the movie, and that was a basic accessory back in the time.
@monmothma3358
@monmothma3358 3 года назад
Thanks for the heads up. I mean, there is enough to criticize fairly in that version, we don't need to drag in the unfair... I still remember the movie people proudly talking about each sister having/preferring a specific color for their clothes, and I'm like "But...but... hand-me-downs..." The family's lack of wealth is so important to the story there is just no way they would not have inherited each other's clothes.
@birdy6049
@birdy6049 3 года назад
I'd honestly be super interested in seeing Bernadette talk about historical fashion in animated movies... Particularly Anastasia and Atlantis. I have a really sore spot for Atlantis and Helga because how are you gonna take one of the coolest eras of fashion and make it so HORRIBLY inaccurate like
@pleasemisterpostman1549
@pleasemisterpostman1549 3 года назад
But the Anastasia musical did good historical costumes
@coffeefrog
@coffeefrog 3 года назад
YES!! Using history to inform a character design can be SO insightful, but artists are just as susceptible to inaccuracies as costumers are--perhaps more so since cartoons often resort to an "anything goes" mentality because you can just draw whatever you want. Oh, and of course, cartoons are often dismissed as irrelevant kiddie fare, so no one cares. :C
@coffeefrog
@coffeefrog 3 года назад
It would be nice to hear someone talk about the disappointment of Elsa's prom dresses outside of my art friend group.
@wormdoodles
@wormdoodles 3 года назад
Anastasia’s a mess, but it’s not trying to be period accurate so I always gave it a pass despite being a huge nerd for the fashions of the early 20th century and also the Russian Revolution and the early Soviet period. I didn’t hate Don Bluth’s interpretation of the Russian court dress, though, even if i didn’t get the transparent sleeves. The only thing I actively hated was the film’s interpretation of the 1920s. It fell into the same Princess and the Frog trap of having an hourglass figure despite the fact that the 20s was all about women having this boyish, ruler-straight figure.
@birdy6049
@birdy6049 3 года назад
@@coffeefrog HOLY SHIT YES I HATE ALL THE DRESSES IN FROZEN UGH I mean Anna has some decent looks but Elsa being perpetually draped in spandex is annoying as hell
@Stacey_Robinson
@Stacey_Robinson 3 года назад
Great video! I'm just wondering why you reserve the "design choice" category exclusively for fantasy films? A designer might choose to knowingly veer away from historical accuracy for a whole range of artistic reasons, not only because there's a fantasy element. I'm thinking specifically of Coppola's Marie Antoinette which used intentionally anachronistic details (and music, etc.) to establish a clear connection between the French royal court and modern-day celebrity culture, but that's just one example. Even if a film is about real people or events, the costumes still also serve a larger narrative and there are plenty of potential instances where an artistic decision might trump historical accuracy without veering all the way into fantasy or sci-fi.
@lilyme3
@lilyme3 3 года назад
4:11 Welp. I just discovered I need an epic crossover with Bernadette Banner and Xiran Jay Zhao. I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE!!!!
@audreyzhang5394
@audreyzhang5394 3 года назад
As a Chinese person I can say Mulan was a hot mess in terms of historical accuracy (especially the makeup), they didn’t even hire a Chinese designer lmao. But I doubt it will be better if they did cause I also haven’t seen a remotely historically accurate Chinese period drama in a long time :o I wish information on Chinese historical dress would be easier to find so costumers can actually recreate periods instead of relying on stereotypical silhouettes which are so boring
@angelabby2379
@angelabby2379 3 года назад
its not about that. most chinese period drama knows the silhouette and made the costume better or flashier and its 1000x more accurate than mulan 2020. the mulan 2020 movie did the panda express version....its so bad and disrespectful that they should have just made it accurate...instead of "trying to make it better but ended up looking like panda express and just enforcing chinese prejudice like manchu qing fashion"
@audreyzhang5394
@audreyzhang5394 3 года назад
@@angelabby2379 Not sure where the Qing fashion bit is going cause Qing fashion (both Manchu and Han) is also really badly represented in the media... like we see a lot of it but almost none of it is actually accurate. Growing up I watched Qing Dynasty dramas set in the 17th or 18th centuries where the actresses are wearing headpieces from the late 19th century Edit: after doing some deep dives into Chinese drama and film costuming I completely disagree with this comment, most Chinese costume designers don’t know what they’re doing and it’s unfortunate.
@katarinatomac4376
@katarinatomac4376 2 года назад
if you don't mind sharing, could you recommend some of the more historically accurate Chinese period dramas that you know of?
@audreyzhang5394
@audreyzhang5394 2 года назад
@@katarinatomac4376 I heard that Serenade of Peaceful Joy (set in the Song Dynasty) and Longest Day in Chang’an (Tang Dynasty) are pretty ok costume-wise, but I’ve only watched the latter. I wish I could share more but there really aren’t so many accurate dramas :(
@katarinatomac4376
@katarinatomac4376 2 года назад
@@audreyzhang5394 thank you:)
@noblemily
@noblemily 3 года назад
As an ethical Chinese (I'm Taiwanese), I'll put Mulan in "they...not even tried" (with costumes from Turandot), but I do appreciate your effort and your opinion;) Because they put Mulan herself with the wrong race in wrong country and fight the wrong enemy, she supposed to be dressed like a Mongolian soldier, or Mongolian women.
@seaztheday4418
@seaztheday4418 3 года назад
My mandarin teacher told us a little about this; she is meant to be from the Northern Wei, right? Fighting against one of the nomadic khanates in what is now Mongolia?
@noblemily
@noblemily 3 года назад
@@seaztheday4418 Yeeees, you are correct!
@undeadgoat
@undeadgoat 3 года назад
Also the whole thing where long loose hair was supposed to signify that she was a woman?? I'm not an expert in China but I know enough about Asian history to know that most adults would have had long hair--and watched enough Chinese dramas to know it's actually a drama trope for men to have their hair loose and women to have it up.
@noblemily
@noblemily 3 года назад
@@undeadgoat I think both men and women should have their hair up, adult men also have to wear hats, or cover their buns with fabric. If it’s around 500BC, women will also wear a low ponytail. If it’s Ching dynasty, men should do a braid, and shave their front hair, because of the segregation. Children who’s hair is not long enough can make a half bun. The loose hair is really a Japanese thing, became very popular in Heian dynasty. So if you see people have loose hair in the Asian painting, you can first make a guess it’s not Chinese or Korean.
@leonguyen896
@leonguyen896 3 года назад
Off topic, but “ethical Chinese” is either the awesomest typo or sickest burn I’ve ever seen!
@tikigaqgal
@tikigaqgal 2 года назад
Your channel is my favorite because I love deep diving into the past and watching movies/tv shows and catching the inaccuracies of said movies/tv shows.
@maggiethompson3467
@maggiethompson3467 2 года назад
Ok but your silhouette in the window is *chef’s kiss*
@khazermashkes2316
@khazermashkes2316 3 года назад
It seems like a lot of costume dramas prioritize having actresses looking attractive to contemporary audiences over historical accuracy (e.g. having visible makeup when not historically appropriate or having hair worn down).
@MsVorpalBlade
@MsVorpalBlade 3 года назад
This is really what Bernadette's work is about - broadening the modern viewer's aesthetic knowledge. (Her summation at the end of this video is brilliant *chefs kiss*)
@atropa9945
@atropa9945 3 года назад
Yeah, it's really obvious when you're watching an older historical movie where the makeup seems much more out of place.
@Rosalie1996
@Rosalie1996 3 года назад
Yes I agree, but I feel like Bernadette coming from a costuming background should point out that directors aren’t going to stand their female leads not “looking attractive” in a historical romance. 🙃 Like the one with the practically winged eyeliner I understand but Belgravia’s hair and makeup didn’t take me out of it at all.
@shandiw7749
@shandiw7749 3 года назад
I completely agree. In fact, I’ve named this phenomenon/trope “No Bad 80s’ Hair”.
@absurdican8737
@absurdican8737 3 года назад
Me: *usually skips through sponsor spiels.* Bernadette: *holds Cesario through entire sponsor discussion* Me: *mesmerized* "You clever, clever fiend."
@totallycrazystudios1801
@totallycrazystudios1801 3 года назад
She knows how to hold our attention
@dissodatore
@dissodatore 3 года назад
@@totallycrazystudios1801 , yup, the snoozy, cuddly, piggy goodness!!
@goldengryphon
@goldengryphon 3 года назад
I'm fangirling over her hair and wool blanket. Cesario is beautiful and so floofy.
@Kerberos.Cosplay
@Kerberos.Cosplay 2 года назад
My friend knows one of the costumers for Bridgerton, she said that most of the people hired for the hair and makeup were very new to the industry,and were mostly just out of school,
@ELisa-qf2mw
@ELisa-qf2mw 2 года назад
OMG what you say at the end of the video is so beautiful! That's what i look for when watching/reading anything historical: learning something about different eras/cultures, yes, but even more, feeling connected to those human beings who lived before us.
@rachelsreads8559
@rachelsreads8559 3 года назад
Oh my god I didn’t even notice the Ugg’s in Little Women 😂
@ekaterinaselezneva724
@ekaterinaselezneva724 3 года назад
Because they weren’t there! It’s a behind the scenes photo ffs
@moriahw3947
@moriahw3947 3 года назад
@@ekaterinaselezneva724 THANK YOU gooossssh
@sadiebelcreations
@sadiebelcreations 3 года назад
Just before this video dropped I was having a discussion with my mum about fabrics used in historical dress and why they weren't all the stiff, tight, scratchy nightmares that people think they were, and then you appeared in my notifications and it was like I'd just called for backup!
@TrappedinSLC
@TrappedinSLC 3 года назад
This would be a super interesting video.
@sadiebelcreations
@sadiebelcreations 3 года назад
@@muse3223 Sadly I don't have any actual references, but as I understand it linens were very different when they were at the height of their popularity, as was wool cloth, which we have less of a demand for now because of blasted polyester ... But this is just taken from snippets of books and articles so I don't know exactly how true it all is!
@piiga
@piiga 2 года назад
The background of this video is so soothing, i love the view from the window and the decor in your room and the way your blouse matches it all so well :D
@onandonitgoes5957
@onandonitgoes5957 2 года назад
Thanks for filming these kinds of roast rants. Your rage is disconcertingly enjoyable.
@maike__-
@maike__- 3 года назад
I'd love to have this become an annual thing - a wrap-up of all period drama-ish movies and series released throughout the year 🙈✨ I am also, once again, extremely jealous of your red blouse and I hope we'll see the promised project of making a set of aesthetic blouses at some point in the new year 😊
@lesliemoiseauthor
@lesliemoiseauthor 3 года назад
Yes, please.
@super_siri
@super_siri 3 года назад
Yes blouses please!!!!
@lucaalexander4894
@lucaalexander4894 3 года назад
May I just say, I love how calm your "full of rage" state is.
@B10PitLover
@B10PitLover 3 года назад
Your so inspirational! I love how you share your passions. You make “being yourself” so cool!!!! Your so confident ❤️
@nelsonglover3963
@nelsonglover3963 3 года назад
I don't know if it was a thing in the US but can you react to the costumes of Horrible Histories? It's a comedy/education British sketch show that's basically part of the culture over here.
@vo3614
@vo3614 3 года назад
His lordship´s portraits behind Bernadette were the most epic thing in the video.
@m.maclellan7147
@m.maclellan7147 3 года назад
I believe both portraits were made by Bernadette's sibling! :)
@IvoryValentine22
@IvoryValentine22 3 года назад
One of my sister’s closest friends from college was actually an assistant hairstylist on The Great. From what she told my sister (they watched the show together) having Catherine’s hair down in the first episode was to show not only innocence and youth (it can be hard to tell she’s supposed to be six years younger than Peter) but also that she wasn’t in touch with fashion or court and had sort of just lived in the country and was a little flower childish. Not saying that was accurate for the time (I know it wasn’t) but I think it’s worth noting that there was more behind it.
@mrsbeard5225
@mrsbeard5225 3 года назад
I’m so glad to hear this confirmed! I assumed that was the case just watching as a viewer. And I really enjoyed the series, and thought the costuming was pretty good for the most part. Or they were good enough that I could look past brief modern aspects.
@maddiowens3549
@maddiowens3549 3 года назад
From a historical standpoint, Catherine often kept her hair down when she wasn’t attending super formal or important social events. She was by no means a follower of the status quo for her time, and like you said she truly didn’t keep in touch with what was proper or fashionable, simply because she didn’t have time for that. She ran a country, and she put more effort into being a good queen than being up to date on the latest fashions or propriety rules for women.
@alessandras8980
@alessandras8980 3 года назад
i thought the great was pretty good, because it did feel like the inaccuracies were a design choice. in a way, the series is a fantasy. it's not meant to be historically accurate at all, from the events to the language to the trained butterflies (lol). i thought they did a really good job at preserving the fantasy of the story being set in the 18th century while also underlining the absurdity of the series with historically inaccurate choices.
@thatgirl5410
@thatgirl5410 3 года назад
Tell your sisters friend I love the great and I cannot wait for season 2 pls
@Matthew_Troll
@Matthew_Troll 3 года назад
This is the only video I have watched of yours and thing that popped out at me the most (besides how knowledgeable you are) was the amazing artwork of the guinea pigs in historically accurate gowns. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM!!!
@AnnaParva
@AnnaParva Год назад
I think I remember reading in Marie Curie's biography (written by her daughter) that she really didn't care very much about fashion, so maybe it would make sense that the sleeves didn't change much throughout the film.
@kitten_grey
@kitten_grey 3 года назад
"the floof of your choice" "now he's fallen asleep... and I can't get up" "I'm trapped!" Only Bernadette can make me laugh so much when talking about a sponsor XD
@duncandrummond726
@duncandrummond726 3 года назад
The Numpty Pig pillow made me LoL also. * chefs kiss *
@MsVorpalBlade
@MsVorpalBlade 3 года назад
it was quite simply the best Sponsor Shout-out I have ever experienced
@christineherrmann205
@christineherrmann205 3 года назад
"... and also... she was wearing bronzer." Me: *dies*
@kylecarmichael5890
@kylecarmichael5890 Год назад
I know this is almost 2 years late, but I just found your channel recently and have been binging....that ad plug at the end....that is how it should be done! I watched the full plug, I have never done that before. Well DONE!
@alisapolyakova1608
@alisapolyakova1608 3 года назад
As russian, I rank “the great” as “vodka bear balalaika” level because it was awful: the silhouettes of the costumes, the colors (pink dress?!) they definitely did not even try Therefore I do not understand why such a high rate was given
@user-md8pe2xn4y
@user-md8pe2xn4y 3 года назад
It's definitely a design choice. The tv show itself is enormously far from historical accuracy (even Peter the third is the son of Peter the great in the show, not the grandson), so it is an alternative universe.
@haapsulu6581
@haapsulu6581 3 года назад
Thank you, I was actually wondering the same.
@Lily1127channel
@Lily1127channel 3 года назад
Yeah, definitely a design choice and not 'Pretty good'. She even mentioned the modern clothes (those things gave me Reign flashbacks 😄), so why put it on 2nd place on a 1-5 scale? The silhouette was rather like the Marie Antoinette movie's style, inspired by late 18th century French fashion, not mid 1700s Russia. Where are all those full ruffling lace sleeves on the dresses? I get that the whole series was just a modern parody and not a historically accurate biography, so the costumes don't have to be so accurate either. But then just don't put it on 2nd place in terms of costume historical accuracy 😀
@Rudolphgaylord
@Rudolphgaylord 3 года назад
Yeah I feel like story wise it was quite good but historical accuracy just wasn’t on its side
@skullsaintdead
@skullsaintdead 2 года назад
You've clearly never seen it. It literally says, on every intro, "*an occasionally true story". How. Can. People. Miss. This. it's so obviously loosely based off real life, they even make modern PC jokes! The screenwriting is the most sublime piece of English I've seen since West Wing, Mindhunters and the Crown. It's utterly delicious, I came away from it with a renewed sense of empowerment. Catherine is ferocious, clever, witty, stunning, her clothes reflect her personality! You'd do the show a disservice by not taking creative liberties! What other colour than fuchsia was she to wear in the final ep?! The ripped seam across her belly, oh my goodness, the symbolism! The costumes, if they were 100% historically accurate, would make the events seem more real, making people think the events portrayed were accurate - a dangerous thing.
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