Ranking Every 2021 Costume Drama on Historical Accuracy || The 19th Century

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[1] Coat, 1833, Silk, New York, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, bit.ly/3GRdS8v.
[2] The “Slavic Kacabajka” of Ludmila Tomková from the Collections of the Uměleckoprůmyslové Muzeum in Prague, 1848, from Ludmila Kybalová, Od Empíru K Druhému Rokoku, Nakladatelství Lidové Noviny, Prague, 2004.
[3] John Singer Sargent, Madame X (Madame Pierre Gautreau), 1884, Oil on Canvas, New York, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, bit.ly/3ITA1Fj
[4] Modnyi Kurier: Zhurnal Mody, Hozyaistva i Literatury No. 1 (1899): 7, bit.ly/3IYamej.
[5] Modnyi Kurier: Zhurnal Mody, Hozyaistva i Literatury No. 4 (1899): 29, bit.ly/3DZ8iPP.
[6] D Asikritov, A Duchess’s Costume of the 17th Century, 1904, Photogravure, Saint Petersburg, Scientific Library of Russian Academy of Arts.
0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - Explanation of Tiers
2:12 - Illusions Perdues
3:29 - Eugénie Grandet
4:24 - Seitan wo Tsuke
6:02 - Božena
7:49 - Chapelwaite
8:50 - New Gold Mountain
10:28 - The World to Come
11:03 - Nos Tempos do Imperador
13:16 - The North Water
14:21 - Sisi
14:46 - The Underground Railroad
16:01 - Dickinson
17:09 - La Templanza
19:53 - The Harder They Fall
21:12 - Les Pays d'en Haut
22:01 - The Mad Women's Ball
23:05 - Eiffel
23:36 - The Irregulars
24:38 - The Electrical Life of Louis Wain
25:30 - Murdoch Mysteries
26:37 - The Nevers
27:26 - Paris Police 1900
28:10 - Silver Skates
30:21 - Dance of the Forty One
31:48 - When Calls the Heart
32:51 - Ghosts (UK)
33:57 - Ghosts (US)
34:19 - Conclusion
35:25 - Sponsor

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@bernadettebanner 2 года назад

How did we do? Did we miss any? Anything you'd re-tier?

@LooneyLolita 2 года назад

Would have been interested if you had looked at Margrete: Queen of the North, it was released this year and it’s taking placed 1402 in Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

@martinhare6085 2 года назад

My knowledge of human clothing is alo based on movies. You guys are awesome at explaining how clothing are made per era. I think I learned a bit from this.

@sarahheri7027 2 года назад

i liked the video :) did you guys see this video, though? between 20:59 and somewhat 29:00 or something they discuss corsets, including consulting a modern medical person, and conclude that men were right, and pregnant women shouldn't have been wearing corsets, because that would deform the children's heads... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5nqq_nFkRcs.html good luck with this one :)

@magdalena8283 2 года назад

Really would've wanted to see you review shadow and bone!!

@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen 2 года назад

Re: The North Water, walking around with open coats/jackets/whathaveyous is not that far a reach, I think, because even in the Arctic, all those layers can still get quite hot and clammy, and so you'd want to open up for a short moment to get some air circulating around your body. I've lived in the Arctic most of my life, and wearing multiple layers of cotton and wool is basically my entire upbringing in a nutshell :)

@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765 2 года назад

Olga: "the extras seem to be dressed more historically accurately"... this gets said so often we possibly need an actual term for this phenomenon

@nebucamv5524 2 года назад

The extraccurateness 😂

@oyinlolaoni9420 2 года назад

They could be called the NTMC's (Not The Main Character). Not original I know but it gets the job done and it rolls of the tongue. But basically, they don't have Main Character Syndrome. Because they are in the background, they don't have to conform to what mass audiences would find appealing, resonate with and/or expect to see in a historical tv series. So I always imagine, the beleaguered costume designers can have fun and aren't as beholden to movie execs.

@floraposteschild4184 2 года назад

This isn't an exact fit, but I came up with Heroes Don't Wear Hats. It describes the phenomenon of the central, sympathetic characters not wearing hats, wigs, powdering their hair, etc., unlike their peers. They're just that earthy, natural, and modern, somehow. It works the other way: the more villainous the character, the more likely they are to wear large and accurate wigs and hats and garish and correct makeup. One example is A Royal Affair, a film I love otherwise.

@LynnHermione 2 года назад

Is it possible different people make the main costumes and the extras' costumes?

@Worldbuilder 2 года назад

“Had access to a really good costume library (but for “reasons” (tm)) chose not to take advantage of it for the main characters…” ;)

@bobbert515 2 года назад

In regards to North Waters at 13:40 , as someone who grew up and continues to live in a super cold environment, having a characters jacket open is actually accurate and realistic. Once it gets cold, you need to balance the need to bundle up and stay warm, while at the same time trying not to sweat. Sweating in colder temperatures is deadly, it can bring hypothermia on pretty quick because the evaporation/cooling process still happens even in extreme cold. So when you bundle up, if you start getting warm, you shed or open up the outer layers so you don't sweat, especially when doing any physical labor.

@cinnamons1501 2 года назад

Ha! I paused the video to say the exact thing :D

@BelleChanson0717 2 года назад

Co-signing this! The number of times I've bundled up to, say, shovel the driveway and then stripped off everything except my base layer is HIGH.

@ragnkja 2 года назад

It’s more that the full outfit is a bit incongruous to me. Why hasn’t he taken off that very warm fur hat first? Because if it were me, that would be the first to go unless it was really windy (in which case I wouldn’t open the jacket that widely).

@adapienkowska2605 2 года назад

You would get a headache pretty quickly if you have done that. Torso is not as valuable as head and you still have some layers of clothing. Opening jacket is the smartest thing to do.

@jigglesox320 2 года назад

I came here to say exactly this. Prepare for the worst in the morning and then open your coat or remove layers if possible. These guys were working hard, too. Also, to add to above comments, it’s more cumbersome to carry around a fur hat than to open your jacket.

@berouja 2 года назад

I really appreciate that you went global with this and that we get to learn a few things from non-European cultures. Bravo!

@michellecavalcante5883 2 года назад

Indeed! As a Brazilian I was quite surprised to see us featuring here hahaha And I learned what balangandan actually means.

@lkriticos7619 2 года назад

I loved listening to the analysis of the non-European costumes and seeing people who specialise in them.

@saraht855 2 года назад

yes, came here to say the same. fantastic platforming of other creators in different cultures too, especially on a video which is likely to do well on the algorithm

@lanadellacour4298 2 года назад

@@michellecavalcante5883 menina nem acreditei quando vi o nome da novela aqui kkkk muito legal sermos notados

@vladjuryrigging 2 года назад

Well I am suprised some slavic stuff made it there, Holywood usually ignores us even more.

@aydenkelly6274 2 года назад

It is so frustrating to see so much great costume work undone by making the young heroine sexy to modern eyes (makeup, hair, silhouette), instead of buying into period aesthetics and helping viewers to understand what previous eras found beautiful. I feel like it undermines both the character (and women more broadly) when "swipe-rightability" is what the design team cares most about.

@daisukidatotoro 2 года назад

Amen. Especially when it's a literary adaptation and the character is supposed to be "average" or "plain" and producers or costumers say to themselves "nobody would believe she's capable/competent/desirable unless she's smokin' hot."

@beiderbecke1927 2 года назад

This has always been an issue throughout the history of film, going back to the silents. Leading ladies were the draw, and it was feared that they would lose their appeal if a certain period style of costume or hair would be unflattering. Those flat to the head marcel waves that women wore in the twenties, were completely ignored in films set in that time until quite recently, and even now they can't resist softening the waves, or putting most of the women in Louise Brooks bobs to make them look edgy. There are endless examples of period accuracy being sacrificed to modern standards of beauty or sexiness, and, sadly, I don't see that changing.

@MajaBiana 2 года назад

I think it also can at least perpetuate damaging and limiting beauty ideals when historical people are almost always made to look beautiful in the modern sense. I know it helped me a lot growing up that I was interested in history and other cultures and that way had learned how diverse beauty ideals are and have been. I barely tan, for example, and growing up in the 90's that wasn't accepted at all, but I could always joke about how I'd be considered beautiful in earlier time periods which helped against the teasing.

@daisukidatotoro 2 года назад

@@MajaBiana precisely. Context is everything. As is the knowledge that very few people ever truly meet their time/place beauty standards without help. (Surgery/cosmetics/padding/hairpieces/hiring portrait painters who are willing to use artistic license in exchange for getting paid...)

@judithmayaabegg4086 2 года назад

@@MajaBiana 100% with you there! Discovering 1940s silhouette (which suits my body really well) and freeing myself from low cut f-in Miss Sixties jeans (remember those?) was such a boost for my self esteem!

@beatriceotter8718 2 года назад

If you're wondering why someone would have a coat open in the Arctic, it depends on what he's doing and how hot he normally runs. The biggest problem in the arctic is sweat. When you're fully layered up and doing something, you might sweat, and then (especially if you have cotton undergarments instead of wool) the damp fabric will cool you off and you will get a chill. So open up when you're doing stuff and in danger of sweating, then close up when you're more sedentary.

@dees3179 2 года назад

Spot on. Sweat kills.

@stichhalbierer9329 2 года назад

I second that. And the air humidity is low in cold places. Another factor is the windchill. No wind and low humidity, therefore -10 or 15 degrees Celsius ist not too bad. Roundabout 0 degrees Celsius with wind and humid air can be very freezing.

@lastquarter3992 2 года назад

Thanks! That's really interesting, I'd never heard that before

@imthehomestarrunner 2 года назад

i was just about to comment that I usually remove my coat when I'm working in the snow to avoid sweat, but I wasn't sure if it was actually safe so this is vindicating

@jocla1 2 года назад

Indeed sweat control is the name of the game when working in the cold. Or at least a good part of it. As for the suspenders, they need to be where they are otherwise it would be unnecessarily difficult to go to the toilet for no 2. That is my personal experience anyway.

@abbyl4621 2 года назад

I love how Bernadette brought in other expert opinions for cultures she was unfamiliar with. I didn't know how big and diverse the historical costume youtuber section was so thank you for introducing me to other amazing channels

@jenniferrobinson4804 2 года назад

Except for the disappointing failure with French language film titles, which surprised me. Normally the scholarship on this channel is great, so not even bothering to learn how to pronounce a film title was off-putting for me.

@victoriai.6610 2 года назад

@@jenniferrobinson4804 well, even French people are not mad at this so no need to take it too seriously and yes I'm French

@bellatrn9125 Год назад

@@victoriai.6610 Plus not all people can be perfect so of course there's bound to be some mistakes

@victoriai.6610 Год назад

@@bellatrn9125 can't agree more! even people born in France from French speaking parents struggle with the language, so really it's not worth mentioning

@KristenStieffel 2 года назад

The phrase "everyone got paid" warmed my cold freelancers heart. Y'all did a great job on these episodes. 👍👍

@livsterlove5681 2 года назад

Just watched Witcher season 2. A complete high fantasy, but one character asked about Cirilla, “does she even have a chemise?” And I was just like, FINALLY. I’m so tired of bare corsets.

@medeaworbs6970 Год назад

I mean, Ciri in the show isn't corsetted but it was still wonderful to have Tris (was it Tris?) pount this out

@maggierobertson2962 2 года назад

Personally, I'm totally okay with "it was a design choice." If it's clear that decision were made, rather than truths were overlooked. Film after all are stories. Costumes are story telling tools.

@barbara_LL 2 года назад

ikr, like, The Great does not ignore the historical dresses, but they deliberately go on another route for storytelling sake

@maggierobertson2962 2 года назад

@@barbara_LL precisely the show I was thinking of. Additionally, The Great is as clear at it can be that the story is not historically accurate, so to my mind the costumes don't really need to be either.

@barbara_LL 2 года назад

@@maggierobertson2962 omg yeah, I love that it always appear in the trailer and stuff, that this is kinda of a real story, the viewer gets to enjoy the show, whilst knowing that it doesn't portrait the reality

@magesalmanac6424 2 года назад

I almost wonder if "it's a design choice" shouldn't be included in the overall tier, and just be a category on it's own, separate from the rankings.

@emmakane6848 2 года назад

I think that Bernadette said that she wanted to do that in the last video.

@andrearouillard7668 2 года назад

My favourite thing is how some of the "job titles" for the other collaborators are factual and serious, and then others are just straight up memes 😂🤣 With Karolina obviously taking the cake with that one 😂

@isabelleblanchet3694 2 года назад

Meme mom is Meme mom.

@h.c.49 2 года назад

"Scared to be here"

@sushreeshashwata 2 года назад

I love the scared to be here at 4.40 the most 😂

@DanielleVlog365 2 года назад

Idk how even in a consultation video, she still manages to make us laugh. But she does.

@adeliecn1763 2 года назад

As a French, I'm both highly amused by Bernadette's accent when she attemps to read French titles, and slightly proud that the French films seem to be doing okay in terms of historical accuracy

@augustinportier909 2 года назад

I’m also French, and also pleasantly surprised by that. But then, there’s the question of the accuracy outside of the costumes: I haven’t seen any of these films, but the Balzac adaptations would have a good reason for having a historically believable plot, but apparently Eiffel’s is complete nonsense, so I was even more surprised that the costumes were so good.

@adeliecn1763 2 года назад

@@augustinportier909 According to my friends, the Balzac ones are good. I personnally hate Balzac, so I haven't been to watch the movies though

@thefrenchtimetravellersgaz2367 2 года назад

That was my feeling too! I was very proud of how well the French productions did this year! I worked with the costume team on "The Mad Women's Ball" and I was very very happy to see it described so well, and I had the exact same reaction to the corsets when I saw them for the first time on set ♥

@keymatrix 2 года назад

"Day payee dohn oat" is a bit of a leap for an anglophone 😂

@piercedsiren 2 года назад

Si je m'attendais à trouver quelqu'un de français ici 😂

@AdamantErinyes 2 года назад

Just reading an article of Sisi I'm rolling my eyes and planning to give it a pass. We have the woman's diaries. We KNOW what her life was like. Why do people insist on portraying it as a love story. She had severe, clinical depression, an eating disorder, and was shocked and horrified by sex as an extremely sheltered 16-year-old. Franz had to basically bribe her with the whole country of Hungary to get her to have another child with him. Frankly, I would love to see an accurate portrayal of her showing the deep psychological issues that growing up in that world caused for women of her class.

@user-C-Zira 2 года назад

I mean there's always the musical.

@luizaviktualia Год назад

There's a 2022 movie called "Corsage" set when Sisi was in her 40s that seems to delve more into these issues of mental health.

@margaretschaufele6502 Год назад

I've read a biography of her, that takes a chapter of a book called . I don't remember the author offhand, and since I've recently moved the book is still in one of the boxes I've yet to unpack, so I sadly can't check. Anyway, that did go into the fact that most of her married life (at least) as being rather sad and her eating disorder and her obsession with her beauty as being the one area of her life she could control, when she wasn't allowed to have any control over most of her life. She wasn't even allowed to raise at least one of her children, her firstborn was raised by her overbearing mother-in-law, and was even named after her mother-in-law, by her mother-in-law. Her husband seemed to love her, at least early on in their marriage, but didn't really understand or even respect her. It's mentioned that she was actually quite intelligent, but wasn't allowed to give opinions or advice to her husband about political issues. She was expected to look pretty and fashionable, behave in a certain way, and bear lots of children who would hopefully live to adulthood. That life, especially since she wasn't even allowed to raise most of her children, is very shallow and boring. Add to that psychological issues that were sadly prevalent in her family, you have a recipe for disaster.

@M.Datura Месяц назад

@@margaretschaufele6502 I would argue that one can't love someone one doesn't respect, but that might just be my modern sensibilities rearing their heads.

@margaretschaufele6502 Месяц назад

@@M.Datura I would still agree with you.

@katyjewett9523 2 года назад

"They Tried" really pulled heavy, but also of notice was a real uptick in overall number of historical films - it's a trend I love to see!

@KelseyMA87 2 года назад

Fun fact: The UK version of "Ghosts" was conceived and put together by the original cast of "Horrible Histories"! It's so great seeing them all working together again. If you've never seen "Horrible Histories", it's a kids show (but fun for adults, too!) that talks about all the weird/crazy things in history you didn't learn about in school (unless you're a 6th grader and have me as your social studies teacher 😉). Check it out!

@sinvector8020 2 года назад

Yess I love Horrible Histories!! So good seeing these guys again 😊

@annakrpatova3429 2 года назад

I didn't know there was HH show, but I had books by them (at least they were very similar to this concept so I believe the same people stand behind those two), I don't know what came first though 🤔

@abibas3050 2 года назад

@@annakrpatova3429 the show was *in theory* an adaptation of the books, but it's essentially a standalone. The same cast makes a compilation of sketches and fun facts (mostly) appropriate for kids, and some of it is pulled from the books. And the songs bang.

@daisukidatotoro 2 года назад

The HH ensemble also did a fun Elizabethan comedy, "Bill."

@Helloworld-ss5uv 2 года назад

So good to see more HH fans here! “Historical Healthcare”, “I became a highwayman”, and “Stupid Deaths” will always be my absolute favorites!

@polsarax 2 года назад

So, I'm not an expert, but having your jacket open in the arctic MAKES SENSE. You get hot with work, then you sweat. If you sweat, it can freeze. The whole thing with winter wear is know when and how to vent your layers so you are a consistant temperature. (I have lived in Canada my whole life, worked in forests in the winter, walked in -40 weather.)

@Yuiguitah 2 года назад

oh! That's so interesting. I would not have thought of that but makes sense. Thanks for sharing your experience.

@dominaevillae28 2 года назад

That was actually the first thing I thought of🥳

@kroselavy 2 года назад

A little bit of storytime : my mom worked in Eiffel as a background character and she actually wore an antic corset, with padding and the costumer explained to her that most of the stuff they wore was either authentic pieces or reproduction pieces. The film was made in 2019 but because of COVID it only came out this year and her experience is what made me love corset and 1900s fashion and thus watch this channel :)

@Thenoobestgirl 2 года назад

Cool!

@laupoe1 2 года назад

You and Karolina should do an analysis of Witcher Season 2! I would love to hear opinions on the dressmaking + Polish fantasy/style/aesthetic

@medeaworbs6970 2 года назад

@@dziooooo ... in Season 2? Which one? She has the Vereena dress, the trousers and tunic in Kal Morhen, and the white dress with overdress in the end with the Deathless Mother

@daisukidatotoro 2 года назад

Are we not going to mention that truly hideous -illfitting-what's-holding-it-up-always-looks-one-breath-from-falling-down- black gown of Yennifer's?

@rukiakyubi 2 года назад

@@daisukidatotoro God, yes, I hated it so much I couldn't shut up about it during the episode. She is in the bath at first so it kinda looks like she's in the middle of taking it off, but then when she stars walking the hallways, she has her elbows pressed to her sides and the hands always close to her bust as if in fear that one wrong move is going to leave her naked... it was just SO uncomfortable to watch. I absolutely hatehatehated it, what was the point? I didn't need that to know she was feeling vulnerable, ok? It was extensively and unquestionably spelled out for two whole episodes

@daisukidatotoro 2 года назад

@@rukiakyubi me too! I at first thought she was just in the process of taking it off. Oh and good read on what was probably the true intentions of the director. I admit that you are better than me, when I saw her walking around hunched apparently holding the dress up, my mind didn't go to "emotional subtext," my first thought was "broken zipper?"😉

@eileen1020 2 года назад

@@daisukidatotoro It was covered in sequins too! I know they pulled in modern influences last season also but there’s not a lot of consistency to how they do it. Yennefer in that dress next to Triss and Sabrina was giving three different styles from three different eras.

@myettechase 2 года назад

I think that the occasional “Basically Time Travel” elements present in the “😬” categories can be chalked up to the costume designers borrowing garments from previous period films- I feel sure that you’ve mentioned that in a previous video but I can’t remember which one.

@katiehettinger7857 2 года назад

Good point.

@b.schurman 2 года назад

32:15 If this is set in Canada, and the “Mounties” are actually the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, they should only be wearing the red uniforms for formal or ceremonial dress. Everyday uniforms were blue. (Source: had family members that were in the RCMP and this was one of my mom’s favourite anecdotes to share anytime red RCMPs were on screen.)

@queenofgreen83 2 года назад

And you’ve effectively taken away the one thing about the show I thought was even close to being accurate. Lol, totally figures. I watched in the first season when it was actually trying a bit more to be historically accurate, but promptly gave up after season 2 started it in the disastrously inaccurate direction it is now.

@b.schurman 2 года назад

@UCE5rOdw_tZQwsrAMqno21gA I don’t believe this was related to Murdoch Mysteries?

@kaitlynoddie9649 2 года назад

@@b.schurman you’re right! i’m a fool that doesn’t read timestamps and i deleted my comment immediately after in embarrassment

@b.schurman 2 года назад

@@kaitlynoddie9649 lol, no worries. I did find it mildy hilarious that Bernadette said 10/10 for red Mounties for being historically accurate, when she clearly didn't fact check that one detail in particular.

@stephenkissinger4434 2 года назад

They'd still be Royal North-West Mounted Police at the show's time period, since the RCMP didn't exist until the 1920 merger with the Dominion Police. The everyday blue became an option in 1904 (around the same time as "Royal" was added to the NWMP's name, and much later than the brown duck that was an option starting in the 1890s), while the red serge wasn't relegated to just formal occasions until 1920, so it's unlikely but not completely impossible he'd wear the red in a 1910s period piece. However, the breeches should definitely not be that tight. They're puffed/bulged above the knee.

@alechiavassa 2 года назад

Brazilian here and I did not expect to see "Nos Tempos do Imperador" here. Interesting that balangandãs were mentioned, and indeed Afro Brazilians did wear colorful clothing, even enslaved ones, but I have never heard that it was obrigatory by law for enslaved women to wear tourbans in here, like it was in other countries. It is an important part of Afro Brazilian fashion, but I have seen images, including photographs of Afro Brazilian women and enslaved women in the 19th century without turbans as well.

@NannaMorningstar 2 года назад

It wasn't obligatory, this only happened in parts of the USA

@meldixj 2 года назад

I was impressed as well with a piece of Brazilian history in this video!

@daffo595 2 года назад

I mentioned it in the previous video but if collaborations like these are going to become more common in the future, if it’s possible it would be great if some of the experts of the more unfamiliar areas of historical costume to provide some photos of what they might be describing or elaborate more on what they sort of pointed out was wrong. I know it would mean more work editing though, so just to add I really appreciate videos like this! Truly made my week!

@holzlastname1976 2 года назад

Maybe a whole new video idea 💡 I know I would love it ❤️ but again thanks for all the hard work ❤️ Great Job everyone ❤️

@Gnomlette 2 года назад

That would be fantastic! I know sometimes youtubers get hampered by what images are in public domain, but footnotes and links would still be appreciated

@Antonio-mn5pq 2 года назад

Some were experts and some were just attention seekers who couldn't provide images or descriptive texts from the actual era to justify their opinions because the information they exposed was born from their prejudices and ideals and not actual evidence. As per usual, ignorance makes noise because it wants to be seen, while wisdom waits silently in the back to get to see.

@keepperspective 2 года назад

Please please please! Absolutely loved that you found all of these wonderful references and would love to hear more conversations with them!

@tananario 2 года назад

@@Antonio-mn5pq Provide proof.

@avivagodfrey 2 года назад

I thought this yesterday, but...I miss the "Blasphemous Hair and Makeup" category. It clearly still has a place. XDD

@pmeredithauthor 2 года назад

I just finished watching Abby Cox’s dissection of why Muppets Christmas Carol is not only the most true-to-the-book version but also a 10/10 for costuming that puts to shame modern attempts at historical costuming. I was wondering if you two would consider doing a ranking of the best Christmas movies for historical costuming accuracy? I’d love to see that!

@aflowerthatcannotbebloomed Год назад

This is probably why the muppet's Christmas carol is my favourite adaptation😂😂

@Fallowsthorn 2 года назад

Interesting! I didn't know the left-right thing on kimonos - I wonder, if you had an undead character (vampire, revenant, whatever), could the kimono be wrapped the "wrong" way as a subtle visual cue?

@TheDrag0nsoldier 2 года назад

Don't know about live action, but that is a common thing in anime. Biggest example is "Bleach" where the Shinigami aka grim reapers always wear there Kimono correctly for the dead .. because they are

@iyawakarehen 2 года назад

yes, it's actually something that i've seen in a few japanese drama/films/animanga, ghosts and "came back from the dead" type characters in traditional garb will often be wearing their kimono right over left

@kokuinomusume 2 года назад

In Edo period pop culture, usually the visual cue that a character is a ghost is the loose, dishevelled hair -- living people back then had coiffed hair (if they could afford it) or at least tied back hair, but corpses were laid out with loose hair. For example, the first great painting of a ghost that sets the "standard" look for Edo period ghosts is Maruyama Ōkyo's "Ghost of Oyuki": white burial clothes, loose hair, invisible legs and feet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_of_Oyuki For an example of the subtle visual cues, here's an engraving by Tsukioka Yoshitoshi of Okiku from "Banchō Sarayashiki" / "The Dish Mansion at Banchō", who gets murdered by being thrown into a well(*). She's not wearing a white burial kimono because she was murdered, but note the loose shanks of hair and how her legs gradually become transparent. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yoshitoshi_Ogiku.jpg (*) Sadako/Samara from "Ringu"/ "The Ring" is deliberately styled as a callback to the standard Edo period ghost look and the story of Okiku. The ghosts of "Ju-On" also get a lot of mileage out of the scary loose hair.

@MartyMango0 2 года назад

It could be rather fun to use this convention in a show or movie aimed at a Western audience on a character who later gets a "they were dead the whole time!" reveal where anybody who knows about proper kimono wearing would feel vindicated & anybody who doesn't would be blindsided...

@inesramalho5644 2 года назад

still talking about how anime does it sometimes, Nora in Noragami uses her kimono wrapped the wrong way on purpose, because she is dead. She even wears a Hitaikakushi (which, according to a quick wikipedia search is a triagular head covering that was traditionallty associated with yurei, which correspond loosely to the western idea of ghosts). There are a lot of other characters that are dead too, but i think Nora is the only one in which they went with that choice.

@maurinet2291 2 года назад

LOVE the guest rankers! Really interesting to hear the non-European perspective in period dress.

@ragnkja 2 года назад

Me too. Historical costuming online seems to be mostly Anglosphere and French fashion (primarily London and Paris), so it’s good to see a wider view of what people in the past actually wore.

@keepperspective 2 года назад

Amen!

@annekec4666 2 года назад

North Water: Every sweater you showed had raglan sleeves. Raglan sleeves were invented for Lord Raglan by a tailor that opened its doors in 1853; these sailors would have been very avant-garde to *all* sport raglan sleeves on their sweaters in multiple patterns, even patterns that were customarily either square-shouldered or saddle-shouldered. The history of that design choice bears discussion. Personally, I hate raglan sleeves because they are highly mobile but they are hard to wash & fold and the tailoring is harder, and they pinch your deltoids a little, but the history is interesting. Also, if you are working up a sweat in cold weather, you want that sweat to evaporate *before* you stop moving; having your jacket open over a wicking sweater pattern in the last phase of exercise can keep your sweat from freezing on you. Freezing sweat can kill you.

@maryeckel9682 2 года назад

Beautiful horse btw

@sydneymads5220 2 года назад

That's very interesting! I had to doubletake the sleeves after I read this, it turns out that's my preferred style for shirt sleeves!

@Collegekidwastingtim 2 года назад

The more of these I watch, the more I want to see this done with the American Girl historical dolls (both pre and post rebrand to BeForever)

@jigglesox320 2 года назад

EXCELLENT idea! Plus one!

@zhazhagab0r 2 года назад

Yes!!

@YallternativeFilms 2 года назад

Darling Dollz has a video on this exact subject (tier list included)!

@angelaboesche 2 года назад

Lol I love how Bernadette can say only good things about a movie and sound super excited but still puts the movie in "gets the job done" instead not time travel 😅 "Amazing, 10/10, no critiques...I guess it gets the job done."

@frauleinbird Год назад

I returned to this video after watching The Mad Women's Ball and being very pleased with the costuming. After her positive comments you can imagine my surprise 😅

@minastone155 2 года назад

Re: open jacket from The North Water In the Canadian north we have a saying, “if you sweat, you die” it’s to lower the core just enough to stop you from sweating because if you sweat it will freeze to your body then you are in trouble

@mariellouise1 2 года назад

Really appreciated hearing the comments of the international judges. First time ever to meet them. As an ex-doc filmmaker, these two videos were superb! Also, I now have a screen shot of all the moves that I would like to watch. I won’t have to stumble through mass of other movies to find them. Thank you to the whole team. ✨🌟✨

@bomaracev 2 года назад

You should look up Lady and the Rose! They've been doing a working list of period dramas for years. I always go there to see what I should watch :)

@annatleal 2 года назад

I'm so genuinely surprised and happy to see you talking about a Brazilian TV show! We have lots of famous period productions here every year and I've never seen anyone talking about their costumes. In fact, Harian's comments really surprised me because they made me realize how little we know about historical Brazilian clothing, specially when it comes to black people. I'd say their costumes look like that on pretty much every historical production I've ever seen but I never thought about their actual accuracy. Thank you Bernadette!

@annatleal 2 года назад

I want to add something to Harian's comments though, she said most African Brazilians at the time were wealthy and I'm not sure it's completely true. After slavery ended most of them had a very difficult time finding work to provide for their families, they didn't have anywhere to live and didn't have access to education at all. Some of them might have been wealthy but not all of them, specially those who were slaved. Racial inequality is still huge in Brazil today, even though we have the biggest black population in the world outside Africa.

@hsama 2 года назад

@@annatleal not exactly what I said. Not everyone bipoc in Brazil was enslaved and it's a colonizer mentality to see a bipoc person and instantly think they're enslaved. I was NOT analyzing enslaved in the soap opera I was only analyzing the free ones. And many of them did have money and we know that because we have access to their wills where they list their whole inventory. Enslaved people were captives. We can't talk about fashion in this sense.

@marcelicassia8333 2 года назад

It was a genuine surprise for me as well...

@matebsp 2 года назад

If only it was just the costumes that were inaccurate, but everything about this telenovela is a complete mess, historically speaking hahahaha

@annatleal 2 года назад

@@matebsp Eu sei! Até assisti alguns episódios no início mas agora só me deixa irritada kkkkk

@anajulianocera1406 2 года назад

YES TO BRASIL!!!!! This novela has literally everyone talking around here, I'm glad you're talking about it to global audiences. Thanks for this gorgeous video!

@malaikamoon 2 года назад

As an Aussie, I would chalk some of the costuming issues with New Gold Mountain up to low budget. Much like Karolina's comments on the Polish film industry, Aussie film & television is much smaller than Hollywood and just has less funding overall. But that doesn't excuse the clear lack of effort put into the Chinese women character's costumes in comparison to everyone else.

@karly2190 2 года назад

Yeah, I appreciated the acknowledgement of production budgets

@sergeantbigmac 2 года назад

@@karly2190 I actually think that has potential for a solid video idea... Comparing different historical films from different budget levels, so to speak; ie the films that did well and those that got it wrong for each bracket from high, medium, low budget, TV, B-movies etc. Since Bernadette has a background in production costuming I personally would love to see her opinions on how to get the most historical accuracy on a low budget and films that maybe illustrate that. Like her tips on what corners can be cut without sacrificing too much authenticity and her advice to potential filmmakers. IDK as a film buff it just seems like an interesting topic to me. Might be too dry for most viewers though.

@SM-ky6pb Год назад

@@sergeantbigmac I love this idea it would be really interesting to talk about the films who were less faithful in terms of history but has a high budget and vice versa

@tessasmith1477 Год назад

They definitely could have done better, there are some great museums that have lots of photos of Chinese women in the gold rush era.

@L83467 Год назад

@@tessasmith1477 yeah literally! i mean its set in ballarat and sovereign hill has photos of chinese women who were living in that area at the time and the creators couldnt even be bothered to do a quick google search

@scientificostrich 2 года назад

Love LoVe LOVE the inclusion of non-European/non-English language content being reviewed by experts in the cultural fashions!

@afoolishfopdoodle3284 2 года назад

Love how Karolina’s label is “Meme Mother”

@DannyBanner 2 года назад

Thanks everyone for watching, what a beast of a series! I have many shows to go watch now >:]

@k3nel 2 года назад

Thank you for your work! 🤩

@whalehail6196 2 года назад

Fantastic editing! The videos have a great flow. I can’t imagine how much time it took. Much love to the fauns ❤️

@missvioletnightchild2515 2 года назад

Excellent work Dani! This was very well presented 👌🏻

@elizabethreid5554 2 года назад

Thanks for your behind the scenes work here!

@mayfair_forest_witch 2 года назад

Applause for great editing! 👏

@BVoshol 2 года назад

I'm not an arctic explorer, but opening jackets when it's cold isn't actually so unreasonable. It's really important in the cold to not sweat too much when you're moving as when you stop moving, then your clothes are wet, which can be dangerous. So you're taking layers on and off, opening jackets, putting on and taking off accessories, etc to try and keep the correct temp.

@firelily0529 2 года назад

Local Japanese person here. For"Seiten wo Tsuke," I generally agree with accuracy of the costume choices, but it definitely has modern choices for hair and make up to appeal to modern audiences (cuz let's be honest, historically accurate make up is an acquired taste). Some, not all, male characters do have the shaved heads, so props to them. The Japanese characters go to Paris for the World Exposition in the 1867, so I do wonder how they handled that part. This show arguably has the most budget for a Japanese historical show (for something that came out this year), so I hope they didn't cut corners.

@anaportoalegre2711 2 года назад

Amazing video with amazing collaboration!! And I absolutely agree with BrazilianBaroness Hairan, having only half of the cast (the white half) in almost amazing historical costumes and absolutely disregarding the African and native cultures present at the time is unforgivable and infuriating! A well deserved 😬

@corduroy799 2 года назад

Oh my mom and I used to love Murdoch Mysteries!! We watched it together when I was young, it's been sooo long

@svetlana7579 2 года назад

exactly! and it's so awesome that it's still going strong!

@aliceg5327 2 года назад

I still love it!

@victoriafrost5461 2 года назад

You can still watch it on Netflix. There's about 13 or 14 seasons on the platform.

@annasfischer 2 года назад

My period film dream is to someday make an Ivanhoe adaptation, where the costumes are scrupulously accurate... To early 19th century romanticized ideas of "medieval" dress, making use of art from the early 1800s.

@floraposteschild4184 2 года назад

I would eat up any Medieval-set story featuring the costumes of DG Rosetti and his Pre-Raphaelite circle.

@annasfischer 2 года назад

@@floraposteschild4184 this is exactly what I was thinking of. The book was published in 1819. A better excuse for late Georgian fake medieval nonsense there never was.

@beth12svist 2 года назад

Please make it a miniseries and dedicate exactly as much attention to all the details that Scott dedicates to his endless descriptions. That would be priceless.

@annasfischer 2 года назад

@@beth12svist Oh absolutely. No other way to do justice to the source material.

@gwjchris 2 года назад

I would lose my mind with joy to see that book done accurately!

@HinataUchihaInuzuka9 2 года назад

Taiga Dramas (Japanese period dramas by the NHK) are surprisingly accurate with their costuming! My favourites are the ones set during the Sengoku period (Kamakura-Muromachi period) and during the Heian period, especially Heian since there was a huge, HUGE distinction between the classes in terms of dress. Although, due to the extreme shillouettes and beauty standards of women's wear of the era, dramas set during the Heian era are very, VERY rare. Juunihitoe are gorgeous but incredibly difficult to wear and replicate, as they're a 12 layer fit that is to be colour coordinated and set on top of a hakui (white juuban) and red hakama pants. Adding to this, plucking the eyebrows and redrawing them at the forehead, blackening the teeth and letting your hair grow so long that it trailed on the floor... it's not usually a look that is easy to maintain for period dramas. If anyone is interested, Gou and Atsu-hime are really good Taiga Dramas! Also, Shogun (a 1975, Western) mini-series is quite good as well and the costuming is also amazing (although it does have some problematic instances that are period-typical).

@timefortee 2 года назад

Taiga doramas are horrid to look at, those styles are so anti-beauty and unnatural they literally beg to be hated. And I really really like Japanese culture! Just not the old periods of extra ugliness.

@peacefulknitting8123 2 года назад

I gave the comments a cursory scan, but did not see this pointed out anywhere-- for North Water, they show a cabled Aran sweater on one of the men, but that sweater design is actually not seen until 1890-1900. Aran sweaters were invented when guernsey jumpers were brought to the Aran isles, and locals began adapting the patterns. It's nitpicky, because the show is only off by ~40 years, but they still would not have had a traditional Aran knit cabled sweater at that time.

@mossmother64 2 года назад

FINALLY BERNADETTE DOES MURDOCH MYSTERIES!!!

@laura-lydia7610 2 года назад

AND LES PAYS D'EN HAUT IN THE SAME VIDEO. O CANADA!

@marieclaudebedard6728 2 года назад

Yes and now pleaaase do Marguerite Volant!

@jayneterry8701 2 года назад

When I see Dr Augden (?) Wearing something slightly off I put it down to what a forward thinking lady she is.

@criggins1 2 года назад

I wonder if it would have changed her conclusion to know that Season 15 is set in 1908 or 1909. After all, 15 seasons means time has passed! And thanks, Bernadette for some more fun videos!

@Kaziklu 2 года назад

Actually walking around with your jacket open can be normal. I grew up in like -20 degree weather as a kid and you honestly start to over heat during activity so you have to unzip or open up. With Modern clothing that is difficult because you have one layer of warm gear. I prefer wearing 2-3 layers now because you can open up a layer as you need to stay warm but not over heat and be all sweaty. As in this period they would have worn many more layers. I count at least 3 if not 4 "warm" layers so I can fully see them wanting to open them up. I'm a bit odd in that I'll run barefoot through the snow for a bit in shorts and a t-shirt... but more people I know in cold weather (particularly out for long periods) while doing physical work would open some outer layers if they had multiple layers just to help regulate your body temperature. We really do adapt to cold surprisingly well. For example 5 degree weather in September requires a coat and extra layers and you feel frozen. 5 degrees in March can get away with a light jacket or even just a t-shirt as it feels nice and warm. Particularly if they are on set and it isn't arctic cold. If they are dressed like that and it is only -5 they are going to want to open some of that up.

@ragnkja 2 года назад

The open coat doesn’t bother me at all, but combined with the thick fur hat it does present a somewhat incongruous image. You wouldn’t think it odd to see someone in skiing trousers and a T-shirt on a sunny spring day - as long as they were bareheaded or close to it.

@isabelleblanchet3694 2 года назад

@@ragnkja Since you loose about 40% of your body heat through the head, keeping your hat on while having your coat off is a pretty normal thing to do. Boots, hats and gloves are the last things to go. Keep the extremities warm if you don't want to loose them.

@bellablue5285 2 года назад

@@isabelleblanchet3694 agree here, in winter when I've been shoveling out of a snowstorm in particular, I may open my jacket or lose a layer across my core/torso, but in the interest of not getting frostbite on my ears/fingers/toes, hats, gloves, and boots, which might get swapped out if they get too damp, definitely stay on.

@JillWhitcomb1966 2 года назад

Agreed ! I've been out in the winter, shoveling snow for hours here in eastern North Dakota. I might just wear a scarf and mittens, and a cardigan. If it is 25 f (-3 c) that isn't really 'cold enough' to wear a coat while doing some heavy snow shoveling. And yep, it can be sweaty despite the wintery weather.

@treason6661 2 года назад

Right, like I'm from Saskatchewan and the comments about this just scream "you've never been shoveling snow (or other manual labour) in -30°C". Like sometimes I get sweaty and I will take off my jacket entirely to help cool me down until I can put my jacket back on or button it up, but I would never take off my toque (winter hat) or my mitts for more than maybe 3 minutes.

@somshunsun 2 года назад

Wow so exciting to see a Brazilian novela on here!! Loved hearing the analysis from the expert and loved that she didn’t shy away from calling it out for what it was! Great work

@katiehettinger7857 2 года назад

Me too. There so many novelas set in colonial times.

@Mih_Soares 2 года назад

OMG!! I had to stop and see it again when one of our Brazilian telenovelas was commented on!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 Unfortunately what Harian pointed out about the difference in care of white people clothes and the black people ones is absurdely comon. But I was so happy to see the representation!! Thank you so much!!

@michellecavalcante5883 2 года назад

I was so not expecting that haha

@hsama 2 года назад

Costume Designers need to care about representing the whole cast accurately or go all full blown fantasy like bridgerton🇧🇷

@amandaleighbump2161 2 года назад

Hallmark Movies are filmed on a very tight budget, so tight that actors often wear their own clothes. I wouldn't be surprised if actors on When Calls the Heart are wearing items that they own and look vaguely historical.

@karencski711 2 года назад

Interesting to hear that. I watched the first 3 seasons and the hair styling especially (ok, well, everything) made me want to scream. My theory was that the stylist must have been like a student worker or something. But maybe they do their own hair as well (which would explain why they all look like they're going to prom).

@jigglesox320 2 года назад

When Calls The Heart is actually a CBC production … which probably has an even lower budget. 🤷🏼‍♀️ It was bought by Hallmark for syndication.

@jemimapeach483 2 года назад

@@karencski711 the reason when calls the heart looks modern is the "its a design choice thing" the first season they tried historical but the director didn't like it so he decide to modernise it a bit, but then it looked jolting in season two so they've slowly been working out a balance of historybounding. but the costume designer actually takes items from modern shops and alters them to look more historybounding. personally, I think this show should get the praise it deserves as a leader in how to make a history bound fantasy tv show.

@karencski711 2 года назад

@@jemimapeach483 well, agree to disagree. There is nothing about it that says "fantasy" to me, so it just comes off as a poorly done historical drama, artistically (not that it's a bad show, I actually sort of like it). It's just a shame that they picked 1912-ish for their fantasyland but then chose to embrace absolutely none of the cool fashion notes of that time period.

@jemimapeach483 2 года назад

@@karencski711 well you might need a magnifying glass to see them, but they have done some neat nods to the time period! and I have found some dresses that they might have taken inspiration from. maybe I'll do a post on it on my blog. because there are so many tiny nods it's sometimes hard to know where to start. its like the tiny painting jack did on the wall mural, these small clues that are great fun to trace.

@Helloworld-ss5uv 2 года назад

Seeing both versions of “Ghosts” featured here made me so extremely happy! I absolutely adore the original UK version and have found things to like about the American version as well, so it was awesome to see them both here! And I think that the pile of frills on the Revolutionary war characters neck is a design choice, as the character is portrayed as gay.

@emmahaslam5716 2 года назад

Being Canadian Murdoch Mysteries was the series that made me fall in love with historical dress. The latest season does not take place in the 1890s as mentioned since they celebrate the beginning of the 1900s in the 5th season. I'm a bit sad this show hasn't shown up in a different review because the costumes used to be so much better particularly in the first 3 seasons before it changed networks. I'm even more saddened by how the costumes for the series have gotten worse with time

@marieoconnell6191 2 года назад

I totally agree! The costumes have taken a lot more of a modern turn recently, but seasons 1-6 had really fantastic costuming as well as hair and make-up (I especially noticed Julia's make-up was far more historical in the earlier seasons). They also spoke in a much more period accurate way!

@annafdd Год назад

I came here just to say this! I think they are in 1912 now. It so so so wish Bernadette would devote more attention to MM’s absolutely fabolous design choices - not to mention the fashion related plots!

@slothbearsrule1564 2 года назад

Would love to see a tier list for all the various Austen adaptations

@hannahmorgan4360 2 года назад

I LOVE the 2009 BBC version of Emma

@badinstructor6806 2 года назад

Bernadette, your knitted top/sweater/don't know what to call it, IS AMAZING! I fell in love so hard, I had a dream of that sweater after watching part one of costume design in movies. PLEASE, can you reveal where have you found such perfection?

@e.w.4677 2 года назад

I agree with you! It is amazing! It looks like a victorian cycling reproduction jumper - she wears a similarly cut one in the split-skirt video. Otherwise there is a video where she showcases all of her "historical" wardrobe. And Karolina Zebrowska also wears a similar one in her ”Autumn girl video“.

@dawn8293 2 года назад

Also, if anyone knows where to get a knitting pattern for this kind of sweater, I would love that.

@BelleChanson0717 2 года назад

I don't know for sure that this is where Bernadette got hers, but Emmy Designs Sweden has a cycling sweater that is very similar.

@organologist 2 года назад

@@BelleChanson0717 I think it IS Emmy Sweden (sure I remember her saying she'd borrowed one?)

@lizthedisjointedzebra692 2 года назад

I must also have one!!!!!!!!!!

@coffeetailor 2 года назад

Speaking as someone who works on docks in some very cold weather, the suspenders over the sweater/jumper is 100% a necessity still. For one thing, if you have to do anything with the pants, you don't want to have to de-layer every time.

@janisemom 2 года назад

When Calls the Heart - the books this series is based on addresses the trousers on women. The main couple was taking a dangerous hike and the husband (a Mountie) bought a pair of trousers for his bride to wear. She was mortified, and nearly refused to go on the hike because she did not want to be seen in men’s clothing.

@soso_trbl 2 года назад

Not 2021 but I'm curious about Penny Dreadful's costumes in terms of historical accuracy, cause I absolutely loooove this show and the clothing but I haven't found anything regarding accuracy (even though it's more on the fantasy side)

@bbth667 2 года назад

She would definitely put that in the " it was a design choice "

@cerenadiguzel7438 2 года назад

I would actually like to see your comments on Romy Schneider’s Sisi circa 1955. It is in 3 episodes. The hair, the costumes.. I could not decide… She also potrays Queen Victoria as a sequel 4th episode.

@Cecily-Pimprenelle 2 года назад

Actually the Queen Victoria one was filmed one was filmed one year before the first Sissi. Seconding your request for Bernadette’s review of these!

@Sirah1981 2 года назад

Yes! I mean, it's an old series of movies so no seam details to be seen but I loooooved all the dresses and the hair in those and watched them every year.

@gracie9658 Год назад

I grew up with these movies and I've always loved the costumes. I am no expert, but after a few years of being obsessed with and studying 19th century fashion, I can tell they were going with a stylized 1950s take on the 1850s/60s. They wear a lot of short sleeves dresses outside during the day, Elizabeth has her hair down a lot, and they are not wearing any corsetry whatsoever, in the third episode, the doctor opens her dress and her back in bare underneath.

@bknesheim 2 года назад

Ref: 14:20 You will often open up winter gear, even down to bare skin because what you really do no want to do is sweat. When sweat evaporate it remove a lot of heat in a manner you can not really control. It is a lot better to control the body temperature opening and closing layers of the clothes you have on.

@IJUSTNEEDASTUPIDUSERNAME 2 года назад

I’d love for you to talk about Dr Quinn Medicine Woman from the 90s, and the difference between city vs rural dress as well as getting an Indigenous guest speaker to talk about the Cheyenne people’s clothing :D

@JenInOz 2 года назад

If you do Dr Quinn please also look at Bramwell (set around the same time but in England) please!

@maryeckel9682 2 года назад

@@JenInOz yes!!!

@andyhostas3841 2 года назад

I would LOVE to have Bernadette review some musical costumes. I always thought it was funny that in theater, you can get away with a lot more inaccuracy, yet for some reason, the costumes still end up looking better than the TV ones

@Worldbuilder 2 года назад

I would *love* to see your take on the miniseries based on Gaskell’s North and South. Inexperienced, I think it looks pretty darn impressive, but I’m no dress historian…

@roguestar8 2 года назад

Thank you for taking a look at "Les Pays d'en Haut" (pronounced "lay pay-ee d'en oh"). I never see québécois period shows or movies be talked about in historical analysis videos so I absolutely love that it got a mention here!

@isabelledescarries5593 2 года назад

Like you, I was very happy to see a québécois title in the line-up. But I really think the two stills that were chosen dos not do justice to the serie.

@roguestar8 2 года назад

@@isabelledescarries5593 En effet, surtout quand on tient en compte le budget de la télé au Québec. Les costumes ne sont pas tous comme ceux qu'elle a montrés

@fiendishrabbit8259 2 года назад

I love how Bernadette says "We're here to ...TierRank... this years period drama releases..." like TierRank is some sort of alien or dirty slang word that teenagers and foreigners use.

@tiamatmichellehart6821 2 года назад

As to Dickinson (though she usually wore white) my brother mentioned that the meter of every one of her poems can be sung to the original *Pokemon* cartoon opening. Here's the only stanza I know off by heart; you can be the judge: *When seraphs swing their snowy hats,* *And saints to windows run,* *To see the Little Tippler* *Leaning against the sun.* *Dickinson! Don't go to the ball....* (OK I made up this part ;)

@artifactasmr6834 2 года назад

I wish more movies were made that earn a spot in the Basically Time Travel category.

@beth12svist 2 года назад

I think getting far more "It Gets the Job Done" would be a much better outcome overall. It's far more feasible a category in terms of film costumes. Notice how one of those that did earn the high praise is... set in one place, with probably a fairly limited cast most of whom are dressed in basically a simple uniform. I can imagine it's far easier to pull off in those circumstances, even for such practical considerations that then you can buy your nice historical fabrics in bulk and save on a bit of the cost that way... and then pour those savings into those great handsewn details and stuff like that.

@laartje24 2 года назад

I love that you got all these people together to make the screening more inclusive and so we can learn about cloths from different cultures too. I acknowledge and love all the effort you and your fellow content creators put in

@BloodRedDestiny 2 года назад

I would love to see someone one day talk about Versailles - it's a French TV show that ran from 2015 to 2018 and is about the reign of Louis XIV. I don't know if it's particularly historically accurate, but the costuming in the show is gorgeous!

@alliecat1019 2 года назад

TLDR: The extras were more historically accurate than the leads. Interesting how this is a phenomenon in all types of film and tv.

@randiunroe3158 2 года назад

I’m debating if Bernadette could include The Wheel of Time next year. It’s technically set in the far distant future, but due to the cyclical nature of time in the show, it’s generally considered to be set in another turning of the 18th century….

@gloriac.266 2 года назад

would love a vid on WoT costumes, but its definitely NOT historical at all. I watched the Bonus Content behind the scenes on the Costumes and the Costume Designer uses modern materials, mix & matching different cultures for different countries (I've had a fun time identifying them), and even reference haute couture. So definitely fantasy but I LOVE IT nonetheless.

@adapienkowska2605 2 года назад

The books hint it is set in the future. Some shots from the series also point towards that direction.

@feranmiolorundare7351 2 года назад

Yes, I agree but she could probably do like The Witcher as well, some interesting choices there

@tjs114 2 года назад

The braces over the jumper is actually correct for cold weather wear. You wear as many layers and keep them 'down' under the braces. Basically, you are keeping the wind from getting under the jumper.

@pengolodh 2 года назад

Plus, for a sit-down bathroom break, with the suspenders on top you do not have to remove the jumper to get the trousers down.

@Prizzlesticks 2 года назад

I so appreciate you conscripting the help of other historians to branch out of solely European and American fashion. It helps introduce folks not only to other styles of fashion, but to other creators as well. And that's fantastic!

@DancethedrizzleBlogspot 2 года назад

As a Czech representative, I forgive your pronunciation :) and really appreciate that you put Božena in. I remember when I was watching it, I was thinking: hmm, these costumes look pretty decent to me, I wonder what Bernadette would think :D

@marienaundorf8397 2 года назад

Great video. Also to ad some german productions you might be interesting, I thoroughly enjoyed both Babylon Berlin (1920/30s) and Charite (end of 19th century until 1960s). However, I cannotspeak on the historical accuracy of the dress.

@larissa8453 2 года назад

I LOVED that you included a review of Brazilian telenovela, I’ve always been curious to know if those costumes were accurate 👏 great video

@kevinnaber790 Год назад

Having grown up with several very cold winters in New Hampshire, with North Waters it is understandable that someone actively working would open their outer coat as you still sweat and can actually have overheating injuries or illnesses even in subzero Fahrenheit conditions. From personal experience, shoveling in a storm to ensure my mom wouldn’t get stuck or slide to the bottom of the driveway, I would often have 4 or more layers depending on air temperature and wind- so long thermal underwear including a thermal long sleeve shirt, a turtleneck shirt, a sweatshirt or sweater, a light fleece jacket, a heavy jacket, and on the lower half heavy jeans with two pairs of socks one under the jeans and the other over the bottom hem and insulated snow pants or snowsuit with bib. After about 30 minutes of shoveling I would often be so hot and sweaty that I had to open the heavy jacket and sometimes the fleece as well.

@jigglesox320 2 года назад

🤦🏼‍♀️ As a proud Canadian who has worked on CBC shows, I know exactly why “Les Pays D’en Haut”, Murdoch Mysteries, and “When Calls The Heart” are such a costume mess. Lack of budget mostly… well, 100%. It’s really too bad. Edited to say: However, they could certain try harder with hair and makeup. Though, they probably only have one hair and makeup person on set… There has been an “it’ll do” mindset at CBC.

@jemimapeach483 2 года назад

but with When calls the heart they actually have stated that it was a design choice (probably to help with costs) and so I think it didn't deserve to be roasted as much as Bernadette roasted because not everyone has a Hollywood budget!

@kiraakakitsune7786 2 года назад

Sisi is now out in German streaming and it *is* a design choice. They wanted to show a modern perspective on Sisi since for a really long time there was only one actress considered to be "good enough"/"appropriate to portrait her (Romy Schneider).

@asterismos5451 2 года назад

(pia douwes)

@kiraakakitsune7786 2 года назад

Did she do a TV series? I am not one of the biggest Sisi nerds and I stopped watching TV years ago so I legit wouldn't know. But one of my colleagues will most likely never shut up on "OMG, Romy Schneider is perfect!" 🙄

@asterismos5451 2 года назад

@@kiraakakitsune7786 Nah, I'm referencing Elisabeth the musical. I've no idea about German/Austrian actors except the main ones from that but they are fantastic!

@kiraakakitsune7786 2 года назад

@@asterismos5451 ah, thank you... maybe I can go and watch the musical after the whole c situation ends

@asterismos5451 2 года назад

@@kiraakakitsune7786 It's so goooood. There is a professionally-filmed version from the 90s I think though? Also loads of less legal ones on RU-vid, but obviously live is always better.

@Amaspiritartist3 2 года назад

I really loved this being global with guest historians! Thank you thank you thank you! The Asian dramas and the Mexican and the Afro Brazilian and the enslaved African dramas! What a breath of fresh air to hear everyone’s exquisite expertise!

@jenpitre9444 2 года назад

The fact that you invited expects from other cultures to share their experience is just amazing.

@96unique2 2 года назад

Thank you for doing Murdoch mysteries! I agree with the rank. It’s a Canadian production.....and usually Canadian productions are.....lower budget ( see the other Canadian show mentioned in the video ...as the heart calls or whatever?). One thing I do like is the progression of fashion over the decade or so the show is based on. Season one set in the 1890s has a lot more of the puffy sleeves and other stuff and slowly we see a shift in fashion, not to mention they mention a character who doesn’t wear a corset and we can clearly see that and the character is abit of a rebel.we can also see when characters break fashion rules due to their character but everyone else around them is little scandalized.

@samlovespotatoes8470 2 года назад

As a French speaker, your pronunciation of French titles was hilarious.

@ragnkja 2 года назад

I don’t speak French, but I find it fairly easy to figure out how French words are supposed to be pronounced based on how they’re written (whereas the other way around isn’t nearly as simple).

@asterismos5451 2 года назад

it really was!

@iyawakarehen 2 года назад

kinda sad le bal des folles showed up with the translated title lmao i was ready to hear "ley ball dez fowllèz"

@marinelabarre9828 2 года назад

I thought it was kind of cute! Because at least Bernadette tried! And French language for an English speaker is hard to figure out! The prononciation is not intuitive. Seriously trying to prononce Eugénie or perdu when you know nothing about French, I think it must be pretty difficult! So nice try!!!!

@samlovespotatoes8470 2 года назад

@@marinelabarre9828 Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty impressed that she tried, it's very difficult for non latin language speakers. So kudos to her.

@merrylty7632 2 года назад

I just want to say about Eugénie Grandet, in the book (a really good story ) her father is extremely miserly and new clothes wouldn't be possible for her. She might be wearing her mother's old dresses and certainly won't follow the trends. Sooo, maybe the clothes in the show make sense somehow? (Is "miserly" the correct word??)

@1JackieLane 2 года назад

I was going to say about the same. It might be wishful thinking, but hopefully it's a deliberate "anachronism".

@merrylty7632 2 года назад

@@1JackieLane let's hope for the best !

@martabagnoli1212 2 года назад

'' miserly'' makes perfect sense

@merrylty7632 2 года назад

@@martabagnoli1212 thank you !

@judithmayaabegg4086 2 года назад

Absolutely loved the "Blasphemous Hair and Make-up" category from last year, maybe you can bring it back in? Appreciated your occasional comment on hair and make-up though. Because yes, most half up half downs in period films are painful to look at as a hair and makeup artist. My guess is it's the equivalent of seeing a corset with a zipper, what's the point? Also really loved the fact that you included so many different countries!

@marietheotaku94 2 года назад

like others have said I appreciate that you included shows and movies outside of your area of expertise and brought in experts, showcasing how diverse period dramas and history itself truly are.

@medicwebber3037 2 года назад

Could there be an increasingly _serious_ trend in actually researching the costumes for movies and shows?? I hope so. I'm not a historian and have little to no knowledge of how clothes looked or functioned in the past. However, I do _want_ to get in my noggin a realistic idea of how things looked/worked. When I imagine the past, I'd like to be able to do so with some accuracy. I don't know why it matters to me, but it _does!_ .... It's almost like I just don't want to be lied to or made to look like a fool when it comes to what I 'know', I guess. (shrug)

@bewilderbeastie8899 2 года назад

Let's face it, being humiliated on RU-vid by actual dress historians would probably shame me into doing a better job next time, lol

@creepydoll2872 2 года назад

Thats exactly what studying and researching fashion history even as a hobby can do and be useful for, which I do as a hobby for many reasons but one is I do like to be able to tell whether costumes look accurate or not

@JustASkyrimHorse 2 года назад

Bringing in people who critique the stuff could save some research as well

@b.schurman 2 года назад

I would love to see you rank some historical/period video games, such as Assassin’s Creed and The Witcher.

@keepperspective 2 года назад

Again, love all of your guests especially real commentators on Korean drama and medieval and French! This is fantastic to see you collaborating! Now, if someone would just pay you guys to actually do these films…

@priscilanosoma6798 2 года назад

As a fellow brazilian who folows both, I was extremely happy to see Brazilian Baroness in the video! ❤

@delaneetaylor4302 2 года назад

I think it would be really cool if you reviewed the costumes from Murder on the Orient Express! It came out a couple of years ago but the next movie in the series, Murder on the Nile, comes out in February so I think it could be interesting to look at the outfits since the characters all seem to have different statues,backgrounds, and occupations that may affect how they dress. Great video as always 💜

@thestrangemusician168 2 года назад

So I looked up the novel for Eugénie Grandet, and Wikipedia says that it was published in 1833 but a lot of the action is set in 1819, so I think the costuming reflects that better

@emmalinekim9822 2 года назад

Hairan is absolutely beautiful and every time she said "jewelry" it made me smile! I love the way she says it in her accent :)

@paulanogueira497 2 года назад

I was not expecting "Nos Tempos do Imperador". In Brazil there are a lots of historical telenovelas and mini-series, is nice seeing they show up here. Wish they had better representation though.

@3kxi761 2 года назад

In line with taking note of small details in period dramas, the little descriptions for each guest are just //chef kiss

@Blondie42 2 года назад

That guy wearing the knitted beard and mustache is awesome. Obviously not historical at all, but still I enjoyed seeing it. 😂

@tkwok8037 2 года назад

This was so great! I really appreciated seeing representation from non English language and BIPOC featuring period dramas. I would really love to see Ranking of older period dramas. Like 80s and 90s ones. I'm curious to see how they hold up now.

@sandys5083 2 года назад

Thank you for doing this again for 2021 and including some guest commenters! Looking forward to 2022, especially HBO’s “The Gilded Age” and season 2 of “Gentlemen Jack”. I would love it if for 2022 that you could expand it to some Post World War 1 movies/shows, maybe with guests that are more knowledgeable in that area?

@natashalilliman7986 2 года назад

Just a minor detail about Murdoch Mysteries - the first season is set in 1895, but from then on the show runs ~ a year per season. So season 15 wouldn't be set in the late 1890s, it would actually be in the mid-late 1900s. Doesn't explain all of the inaccuracies, but worth noting

@NicoleMisra 2 года назад

Really appreciate that you brought in Ms. Kawaguchi's expertise!

@AviZ24 2 года назад

Yay! Thanks for covering Murdoch Mysteries, the costumes are truly wild!

@ragdollrose2687 2 года назад

Ok, I was really surprised you covered "Les Pays d'en Haut" but you gained extra points for saying that it's from Québec and not just that it's a Canadian show 🥰 I feel super represented, especially cause it tells the creation of my home region. I don't mind the costumes being a bit weird, I'm just happy to see something from home talked about from one of my faves 😇