Ranking All 11 DLC Challenger Packs In Super Smash Bros Ultimate 

This was a big project so I hope you all enjoy it! You may have noticed that I didn’t use any music from Hero, Sephiroth, or Sora. Sadly the music from their packs can receive copyright claims, so I had to use “replacement” songs. I think most of what I picked fit well at least, so hopefully that’s ok with all of you!

I'm calling it, he's going put steve in every spot

I'm gonna say this much, I've never once played a Xenoblade game but Roaming the Wastes is an absolute banger

It’s nice hearing someone say they like Steve, unlike a friend of mine who says Steve is “One of the worst characters in the game” just because *I’m* not good with him…..

None of the challenger packs were even bad. Sakurai and the team really went out of their way for every single DLC. Pyra Mythra placing is absolutely infuriating because the songs are amazing. The stage I can agree isn’t much fun but the characters are so much fun

This is the spookiest halloween video ever.

Dry Bones for Smash 6 is something I’ll never get used to.

When you mentioned Steve's bad alt I was really hoping it wouldn't be Scottish Steve. Thank you for not hating Scottish Steve

Another point against Myra (yes I’m calling them that): Nintendo gave them individual “gimmicks,” Mythra’s is a kind of interesting dodge, but Pyra’s is just saying that her F-smash is strong. Nintendo tried so hard to give them more of a gimmick than just being switchable that in the Moves List, Pyra has an entire tab that just says her F-smash is strong, which is just dumb.

Nice to see Hero rank so high up, he is definitely one of my personal favorites to play.

I commend you for your effort in this video. I respect your opinion and also agree with Steve's pack being the best. I also understand your take on "Pythra"'s pack... mostly. I fail to get or accept the part about the music. Xenoblade is known for its excellent soundtrack and while I'd also agree that not all of the new tracks were bangers or anything, but a good few like Mor Ardain, Battle/Torna, Gormott and Incoming are, at least in my opinion and from what I've seen many others' as well, very good tracks. Otherwise, great video! :D

I’m calling it guys, Byleth is going to be number one don’t tell me it’s not!!

Pyra and Mythra were part of the reason for getting into Xenoblade so the two blades hold a special place in my heart

Here's my top 12 Dlc choices (including Phirana Plant) 12. Min Min 11. Byleth 10. Phirana Plant 9. Kazuya 8. Terry 7. Banjo and Kazooie 6. Pyra / Mythra 5. Steve 4. Joker 3. Hero 2. Sephrioth 1. Sora

I’m probably one of the few Byleth fans here, but I also really like Steve, current opinion on Sora is that he’s really fun lol, I think the 3 I mentioned are the 3 best for me, there all fun to use & not too annoying to fight for me Update on my comment, my 3rd is Sephiroth instead of Sora Edit X2: I actually hate fighting Sora & don’t really like playing Sora

Oddesey, have you cared to listen to Battle Torna from Xenoblade chronicles 2? Frankly I see it in almost every smash related video as background music and insaneintherain made a cover of it so it’s bound to be good.

If Dry Bones came to Smash Bros Ultimate DLC I think we all know who the number 1 ranking will be for him.

5:35 "I mean sure Kirby & Animal Crossing are far more popular but the characters aren't as suited for fighting" Bandana Dee, Rick, Kine, Coo, Marx, Gooey, Adeleine, Dark Meta Knight, Daroach, Magolor, Taranza, Susie, Fransisca, Flamberge, Zan Partizanne, & Prince Fluff: "Am I a joke to you?"

I don’t have a funny comment, I’m just hear to say you’re extremely underrated and I appreciate all the effort you put into your videos (which is a lot). Keep up the great work.

Just a quick correction I wanted to make, Jokers victory screens are NOT based off of Persona 5, 4, and 3, but just 5. The color changes with the color of mementos, or the player number color if not on mementos. Persona 3 and 4 have wildly different winning screens and songs. Other than that, great video!

Your video quality is impressive as heck! Excited to see your channel grow. Loved the video.

Wonderful video! Can’t agree on the rankings and I don’t agree with most of the lower critiques, but with this being an opinion piece, you did justice to your passions and it shows 😁 great stuff!

You’re really gonna knock Xenoblade for music?! There’s no way you gave it a proper listen if you think they’re all bad tracks. Moving on to something more subjective- Byleth feels way worse than Pyra/Mythra in my opinion. While I’ll admit their moveset does feel basic, Pyra and Mythra at least feel coherent, where Byleth feels really off since they wield 4 different fucking weapons and have a massive dissonance in feeling from move to move.

Kazuya was easily my favourite dlc character I was asking for him since day one so when I heard Emotionless Passion playing and seen Ganondorf getting thrown off the cliff I jumped out my seat and shouted out loud "GET IN YOU BEAUTY!"

Great video! The transitions were well done 😆

The worst thing about the Joker DLC is that it doesn’t come with Life Will Change like why?

Personally Steve will always be my favorite, though I feel in some way, every DLC Pack has been great!

This is probaly your best video yet. Real great job

“And if you disagree that’s great!” Odyssey Central - 2021 I disagree

These videos are nice to watch if you don’t have the DLC, Like myself. I have Pyra and Mythra and I am looking for the second DLC fighter to buy.

I'm just gonna act like he didn't just say the Three Houses music choices were better than the Xenoblade 2 choices 😩

I agree with this whole list, though I'd put Pyra/Mythra higher. About Steve, I LOVE HIM! He plays amazingly and his game was a huge part of my childhood, back when I also played Xbox. It's crazy that Mario and Steve are in the same game. I would go on a whole reverse rant, but I'm too lazy. I'm trying to make him my second best character, and who knows, maybe he will be better than my Pythra someday? And I don't know if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but Fighters Pass 2 > Fighters Pass 1+Piranha Plant

This was a good ranking and i have tried and had some type of fun with these characters im actually a Banjo and kazooie and Minecraft steve main

As someone who’s favourite game of all time is banjo-Kazooie, I agree with Banjo’s placement, so extremely disappointing to me.

“Pyra and mythra are the worst dlc fighters” Everyone:”Kirby has found your sin unforgivable.”

What a good video! Happy Halloween!!!🎃😈🎃

I disagree with your pick for the worst DLC, but It was refreshing to see Byleth not on the bottom of these kinds of tier lists. Respect.

I mean I like byleth in smash but this is your video and your opinion so I respect that

My rankings (don’t care for movesets just how much I enjoy to play it casually) 12. Piranha Plant (funny addition and interesting character but idk barely play him anymore) 11. Min Min (Cool mechanically but the way the implemented, it sucked) 10. Banjo (good for the fans but nothing about him elsewhere just was boring his move set is kinda bad and he is just annoying to play against) Everyone from here on I love to play and will probably continue to play: 9. Sora (this is how you make a character people wanted fun to play) 8. Byleth (controversial I know and I’m one who doesn’t like many of the fire emblem characters but Byleth is one of my favorite characters every added and honestly gets too much hate) 7. Kazuya (the reveal was kinda lame but the character itself is fantastic and fun to play and I enjoy his moves) 6. Terry (never knew who he was before smash and honestly still don’t but very appreciated and I seriously love his GO mechanic) 5. Sephiroth (I wasn’t much of a fan of Cloud good he was in for the fans but once Sephiroth came I knew I would enjoy him and I was correct he is one of the most fun characters IMO) 4. Pyra/Mythra (I seriously don’t get the hate for these two, the fact they brought back the double character in one back from Brawl and honestly never played Xenoblade but honestly with there addition I’ll need to look into it) 3. Joker (the pass started off perfect with this character, a little bit of everything for both casual and competitive characters I also got into his game with his addition) 2. Steve (this is one of my most requested characters this guy is an ICON and honestly don’t understand why they didn’t just start the second pass off with him) 1. Hero (This character is the definition of casual, love how unique he is with all of his spells on his down B and as well as crits) Unleash your hate in the comments below, this is just my opinion no need to hate

6:50 if you’ve played Three Houses (which I haven’t) you’d know that the colors represent four of the most important characters, being the House leaders and Sothis. The 8th alt should’ve been something different, though, maybe a Jeralt or Rhea skin, since female Byleth as is now has two green hair skins.

I agree with you with most of the list. I would just swap Hero and Joker also Pyra with Byleth Overall great job on the video bro.

Ngl, i expected you to place Hero in 10th place but i feel thankful for him being up there

Fun fact: I heard that it was planned where you can connect your Minecraft worlds to smash ultimate as a custom stage. It would have been interesting to have that and custom skins if you have minecraft switch/bedrock. Edit: if this and the porting of minecraft maps for the switch version like using mcpedl or planet minecraft I would love to make an arena using levels from my map.

This list is agreeable for me. Sry I am late, but since my favorite games r Pokémon and Minecraft this is a dream come true for me. I feel that the bottom 2/3 are interchangeable, and the top spots are justifiable, especially Steve. My only regret is that u put sora low down: he may have been the closest to breaking twitter other than Steve. Otherwise, this list is excellent and I hope to see more smash content from u in the future.

>Complaine about Xenoblade getting a second character >”Before the pack Xenoblade only had one character”

I agree about Steve in Smash, because he was my most recommended character and I’m just glad that he got in, Pyra and Mythra were also one but it okay to see what others opinion about these characters. Joker, Hero, Sephiroth, Sora, by my opinion one the best included, Banjo, Terry, Byleth, are good choice, I have nothing against them their games are great, but Min Min, and Kazuya, just don’t really get my attention. By far I just love some of the characters they add on these dlc packs.

11. Byleth 10. Min Min 09. Pyra/Mythra 08. Banjo & Kazooie 07. Hero 06. Sora 05. Kazuya 04. Sephiroth 03. Steve 02. Joker 01. Terry

27:40 "PURPLE GUY!" The best line I heard

A delayed odyssey video is eventually good, a rushed odyssey video... is also really good, all your videos slap.

Call me bias but my favourite dlc fighter is joker. The reasons are: I love persona 5 Mementos sometimes has characters appear from p5 like fox or skull as examples I love the final smash I love the attention to detail Voice lines Music

Man, Pyra and Mythra's placement shocked me, I love playing them, I love the rapid ability to essentially change movesets, it feels so fun, like a trickster whom you dont know what they'll go for, will they combo into photon edge? A smash? Ray of punishment? Or will they switch to Pyra to hit you with a Flame Nova, I like Pyra and Mythra

When each challenger pack came out, I tested them out by playing through the entire world of light story using only that character and I was only able to do it with only 5 of the 11 characters. Those will be my top 5, however the order is based on the rest of their pack with music being first and stage being second. 1. Byleth - couldn't stop playing as him when he came out, he's the reason why I started playing Fire Emblem Three Houses and Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes, Best music out of all the challenger packs. 2. Sora - Huge Disney fan, never played Kingdom Hearts, but the music is amazing. Character is super fun to play as. Stage is gorgeous. 3. Hero - Favourite stage out of all the challenger packs because of the beautiful backgrounds. 4. Pyra/Mythra - My main and the character I played as the most out of all the DLC characters. 5. Terry 6. Joker 7. Sephiroth 8. Banjo & Kazooie 9. Kazuya 10. Min Min - never won a single fight playing as Min Min 11. Steve - never won a single fight playing as Steve

Wario had the best recovery options imo in that side special into jump, maybe down special if timed right, and up b were great in Brawl,Bayo took it in Smash 4 with ladder combos, and Steve has top tier in recovery options.

Wait dude I have a question, can you do a video about how likely you think the other console games could come on switch online service for e.g. Gamecube games is less-likely and Wii games is likely something like that. You don't have to but I appreciate if you do.

My personal favorite is Joker since it introduced me to persona and I love persona

Great video! Glad someone brought up Spiral Mountain being a mediocre stage to play on

I completely agree with Steve being number one. I also grew up with the Minecraft mini games on console and recognized toys on a tear immediately as Shrunk was one of my favorite stages. Also 39:38 lmao

I hate having so many fire emblem characters because when I go against random CPUs it’s so common to get a fire emblem character

My ranking: Keep in mind, i like all the dlcs. 11. Pyra/Mythra. I think a Xenoblade character is cool, but I don't think the character is very fun to play as. 6.5/10 10. Min Min. She's just fine. The character is unique, but she's just fine. 7/10 9. Banjo and Kazooie. They 101% deserved to be in the game, but the gameplay of the character is boring. Also, the music and stage they came with are underwhelming. 7.3/10 8. Terry. I love Terry, much like the whole top 8. These were really hard to choose. But out of the top 8, he's my least favorite. The music and stage is quite good. 8/10 7. Sora. I might get crucified, but let me explain. I love sora. he's not my favorite to play as. I also think his music and stage are great. 8.2/10 6. Joker. joker is an overall great pack. character is fun, songs are great, stage is good, just overall great. 8.5/10 5. Hero. Hero is super fun. I love the gimmick he has with down b. Also, the alts are PHENOMONAL. 4 characters in one is a great package. the stage is good, and the music is ok. 8.8/10. 4. Kazuya. He's just incredibly fun. I love the gimmick, and he's just so powerful. Stage and music are both great, and so are his alts. 9/10 3. Steve. Steve is just INCREDIBLE! The fact that he's in the game is just mind blowing. Also, the amount of effort that was put in was great. The character's gimmick s great, with his mining. Much like Hero, the alts are phenomonal. The package is great. The stage is great, but the music is just ok. 9.2/10. 2. Sephiroth. The character was probably the most hype and coolest of all the characters. The gameplay is incredible, stage is incredible and the music is also great. 9.4/10 1. Byleth. This is my most controversial opinion. I know people were not excited at all for Byleth, I get that. But, I just think byleth's gameplay is son unique. I love powerful characters and byleth covers that. The character is great, and so is the stage. But the thing that brings her to number one is the music. My favorite song in Smash bros, The Edge of dawn came with Byleth, and Oh. My. god. It's so good. 9.6/10

Back when I voted for Steve in the Smash 4 ballot (which was probably the hardest decision of my entire life), I truly didn't think he actually had a chance, but I sure am glad he did. I mean, every time I see him being played I learn new tricks!

I really like Pyra and Mythra but talking generaly i am kind of sad that everyone say is one of the worst, it feels bad liking something that everyone says its bad :( Anyway, nice videos as always Odyssey! I really apreciate this awesome video, and really hope ylu keep doing more content.

Pythra’s moves are boring? I would say most of the fe reps fit that statement but hey, this not my list so whatever floats your boat

For play style wise Kazuya and Terry are my favorites. I love inputs tbh and I don't mind auto turn around as its easy to cheese since its kinda bad sometimes. But they feel amazing when you hit and deal a ton of damage so I love that. But Steve was my most excited character I sadly can't play him well since how he plays I can't play to well

Sick video!

“Best dlc character tier list wise” oh you poor child… have you yet to hear of the terror of the block man?

I heavily disagree with the bottom two. Pyra/Mythra is deserved, and I've been waiting for a Xenoblade 2 character since Ultimate was announced, and their song choice is fantastic, a ton of them are better than a majority of the original Xenoblade's songs in Smash (Death Match with Torna, Counterattack. You Will Recall Our Names, Driver Vs, Mor Ardain, Bringer of Chaos, Battle!! Torna, are all amazing). As for Byleth, I just think it's a solid choice. I dont really care how many FE characters their are, especially since half of them are just Echoes. Ike, Corrin, Robin, and Byleth are the only wholly unique ones. All the rest are different shades of the same two movesets.

Honestly, I have pretty much polar opposite views of every character here haha. Goes to show how different everyone see’s these characters.

As an Dragon Quest fan who justed started the franchise with DQ8 to DQ11, I'm very happy the Hero is at an top 3 and I agree with everything you said.

if i got to pick challenger pack 3 waluigi, dry bones, dry bowser, and tom nook would be my top picks

The Xenoblade soundtrack take is extremely debatable.

Ik this is old but the reason the Hollow Bastion stage dosen't change with hazards off is because it does change what Steve can mine, he can mine steel I think in dive to the heart, so *technically* it does affect something, tho imo it's kinda dumb

I think this is why there are so many fire emblem characters, you see there is always different main characters in the fire emblem series, but in Zelda, Link is the main character in every game and what Zelda characters could get into smash.

mario odyssey man uploading be like

Steve was actually the first character I've wanted in Smash Bros.

27:08 OMG I feel this! Joker is broken but he's a hard character, I've played him since launch, it takes a while to get good with him, unless you're Leo :P

Counterattack from xenoblade 2(song wich came in the dlc) is an absolute banger.

I strongly disagree with pretty much everything but you know what that’s ok. Good video

I remember Sakarai said that none of the iconic music of Minecraft was added in because they were too calm and didn’t fit in with the fast pace action of Ultimate

“gameplay is the most important thing for me” **puts joker over sora because of the music that joker got**

i just love how rng hero is it’s so fun getting the worst thing and instantly getting a critical hit

How dare you! Pythra and Byleth have amazing movesets that are fun to play and they’re from hot new Switch-exclusive successful entries that stand out amongst their series. Xenoblade 2 especially is completely different from 1, and Three Houses is the new best FR game everyone’s talking about. I get that FE doesn’t deserve more reps than Zelda, but cut Chrom and maybe Corrin, maybe even Roy or Lucina, before you even think about cutting Byleth. Then there’s the music, and Xenoblade 2 and 3 Houses have, to me, the best DLC song collection. Edge of Dawn and You Will Recall Our Names are two of the hypest songs on the Switch on their own. On top of that, Claude can be enhanced into one of the most broken Primary Spirits in the game since it practically grants your fighter two buffs.

"The worst ARMS song is better than the best Xenoblade Chronicles 2 song." Bruh, if you're saying you prefer "Vs. Hedlok" to "Mor Ardain -Roaming the Wastes-," you have bad taste in music, my friend.

Gosh these really are hard to separate, huh. For Joker they pulled out ALL the stops, and yet it ended up with so much competition pretty much straight away. It's crippling how low Banjo has to go when he might be one of the biggest additions of the bunch, but argh I wish he was just more fun. Hero the complete opposite, why on EARTH is that guy so entertaining, man

43:51 also Halland/Dalarna almost single-handedly made the hypest reveal trailer in the history of media

9:32 you haven’t actually listened to the Xenoblade 2 OST, haven’t you?

Pyra and Mythra are of course my favorite DLC with also Hero. It's thanks to them i played Xenoblade 2 and Dragon Quest 11 and after that these become my favorite games of all time Thanks Smash ultimate !!!

I really appreciate the call-out to Psycho Soldier!

I mean I’ll admit I was bummed when Byleth was announced. After having played them I really enjoyed them and do play them quite frequently to this day. All in all the DLC was really great this game. There really wasn’t a truly bad pick. 1) Banjo 2) Sephiroth 3) Byleth 4) Hero 5) Piranha Plant 6) Min Min 7) Pythra 8) Terry 9) Joker 10) Sora 11) Kazuya 12) Steve Some players were just blah play wise (Steve, Joker, Sora) and some were not my cup of tea for other traits (Terry, Min Min, Pythra Stages) but I am whole heartedly happy we got them all. Even tho Sora basically screwed over Geno 😢

I'm quite happy that pyra and mythra got into smash. They are the only sword characters I like to play, and it also got me to play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as well.

I like Byleth very much more than Piranha, Min Min and Pyra/Mythra, but, yeah, as a Fire Emblem Fan myself.... Not deserved that spot. I truly like Fire Emblem, and Byleth in Smash but, that spot was just comercial trash. Give FE a chance tho, is a cool series.

The wait was worth it

SSBU players when they saw another fucking fire emblem character being added:

As a huge fan of Xenoblade who was absolutely ecstatic to see Pyra/Mythra be added to the roster, I'm obviously upset about them being in the bottom spot. But that's not even that big of a deal. Whatever, different people have different opinions and different preferences. But you're seriously going to say that the Pyra/Mythra music selection is one of the worst ones of the packs??? The Xenoblade franchise as a whole is well-known for consistently having some of the best OSTs in the genre. I can understand you not liking Pyra/Mythra as fighters, but what you said about the music selection is just baffling to me.

He was the first of the challenger pack, but Joker is still probably my favorite!

I've never spent so much time listening to someone who says, "I grew up with Minecraft" . Well done 👍

I wanted they put from existing franchise: Eggman, Knucles, paper mario, majoras, link from majoras as a changeble character (like pkmn trainer), Zant, maybe wolf link, tetra and remove incineroar to put decidueye

Need a list that ranks the packs based on content and not how much a franchise isn’t Nintendo. Lol

Im just here to tell you that dry bones is in smash

Which package should I get? Or do I buy them all? Or is it worth getting a few individuals?

I wasn't expecting the IzAw reference that was hilarious