In this I included only izone, itzy, idle and aespa because these are the only groups of 4th gen I know something about. I am sorry to all of the Everglow and LOONA fans but I couldn’t rank them because I am not really into them
@hityouwitdatdudududududu yeah! she will upgrade her skills over the years and maybe even be a lead vocalist/main vocalist material :) (although i dont think shell surpass ning's level)
Me too. Even though I am not really a fan, the way she performed on the stage with that facial expressions and her cool dancing skills especially on Wannabe, COME ON!!! Plus she's a girl crush. Haha
Im sorry but Yuna deserves to be center in Itzy. Her visual expression are the best by far and her elegance while she is dancing is awesome. Ryujin its because she is "the girl crush".
Soyeon is best all rounded center imo.. Why? 1.one of best rapper of kpop 2.incredible dancing skills (ballerina trainee) 3.vocal(insane unique versatile vocals) 4.extreme confidece 5.extraordinary stage presence 6.one of the best leader who guides the team well 7.producer(slook how versatile she is.. She is one of main producer of gidle.. She also composed for her senior group) 8.lyricist(extermly inspirational writer)
Soyeon is one of the best aces I’ve seen: 1st in rap, 1st in stage presence, 2nd in singing, 3rd in dance (she’s better than wonyoung IMO) and she’s a producer, composer, choreographer and leader. I’m surprised no ones talking about how she’s such an ace.
yes nobody is speaking about her in this comment section!!(I guess it's bcs she's so good at rapping producing that people don't know her well as a center hehe)
@@kyooongie I’m not underestimating her, she’s just not that great of a dancer to be so high. She’s the eight best in izone while soyeon is the second best in gidle. Alright, there are twice as many members in izone so multiply soyeon’s ranking by two and she’ll still be fourth. It’s nothing against wonyoung, she’s talented, but she’s definitely not a better dancer than soyeon. Just watch a couple videos and you’ll see.
Not @people here saying Karina is stiff huhu that's just how you execute the dance, the choreographer really saud Karina did a great jod executing the dance (a professional dancer) and try to dance her synk video, as a dancer myself that is probably the hardest female choreography I have learned, and Karina's technique is much more versatile than Ryujin, + she doesn't tend to overdance nor underdance, she is a very clean, sharp and precise dancer. Karina's dancing skills are being unappreciated but whmatch how she became one of the best just like how people doubted Seulgi before lmao, SM the biggest company, debuting Karina as a main dancer speaks a lot.
@@reggiemagdura877 Karina's technique is not the common girl main dancer technique, she is unique among them, people are just used to a girl dancing girly moves/girly hiphopish
@Navya Singh from a dancers perspective ryujin is extremely talented but Karina is still slightly better and more versatile but they both have strengths and weakness
4th gen definitely has some strong centers but Karina to me has a certain "it" factor that makes her stand out. She has that YG-style commanding presence that the Blackpink and 2NE1 girls have and combined with SM's ability to turn their talent into legends, I'm really excited to see her live up to her full potential.
I think Aespa has somewhat of a presence Blackpink has. Like their vibe and charisma. Obviously they havent shown Coachella or BP's concert level performances and crowd hyping but they've just debuted and they still stand out in 4th gen a lot.
@@youthful1048 oh i think you got it wrong. You stated that she was a trainee for 5 months but now you wrote it a lil different so i guesd that solves the problem.
i think ryujin and karina are practically tied in dance, both have a similar weakness of dancing too small, it looks awkward and sometimes stiff since they still apply lots of power (less noticeable in karina as black mamba is a pretty demanding and full-body choreography however it’s obvious in her synk teaser). ryujin might be slightly better for her more developed locking ability (she tends to overuse it though), however karina is cleaner with details and i might say more versatile as ryujin struggles to embody the concept in more feminine dances
I definitely think Karina might be the better dancer honestly. And one reason is the feet movement in black mamba it’s very similar to the one in the dance break in Wannabe and only Chaeryeong was the only one that got it right and Karina is the only one who got hers right. Plus like you said Karina and her both have awkward movments but the difference is like you said Karina can do more feminine dances while Ryujin can honestly only do boy group dances 100% correct. I do feel Karina might be on Yejis level or just a little bit lower but we’ll see the more she dances
@@shujinko2944 umm wtf?? lmao u should learn to dance first, I studied modern contempo for a year, and I can say Karina is better than Ryujin (a bit) because of Karina's technique is much more versatile, and Winter, SM didn't give Karina the Main dancer position if she isn't worth it lol
i mean for sure karina is an ace: vocals, rap, dance and visuals! i also really like her personality and charisma, she seems like a cold person but she's a very good person, she dislikes bullies and during her high school years she helped people and victim of bullying! her schoolmates love her🤍
@@spicysonson3041 the rumors were proven false several times from her schoolmates and staff, aespa backup dancers, make up artist and a lot of more always said how all of them are sweet and respectful to their seniors, unfortunately people still want her to be their punchingbag by spreading rumors. even sm said they will sue them
Sorry, but she can't rap. SM artists are more based on vocals and not rap, even tho they have rap positions. If they haven't been natural rappers before then they also haven't been taught by SM because they have no real rappers as teachers. SM artists are really talented but that's only vocals & dance, not rap.
Karina ace her dancing skills is on another level not overdance and not underdance she knows her limit and so clear and percise that's true she's the only rookie who can pull off robotic dance in 4th gen karina ace
didnt even remember G-idle was 4th gen just cuz of how iconic they have become. Not saying that the other groups are not iconic btw. just that they have a more of a rookie/young vibe to them.
@@spinel6501 because SM always promoted her predebut and toxic MYs said it was unfair for the other members, she got to promote with Taemin and Kai. So toxic MYs usually leave her out when they compliment the group like "Giselle, Ningning and Winter are so pretty!" or comment stuff like that. It's not an excuse to treat her like that though, she is still the leader of Aespa and she still loves her members so people should not have a reason to hate on her.
Hard disagree in dance ranking. IMO it would be: 1. Ryujin 2. Karina 3. Soyeon 4. Wonyoung Ryujin has a very polished comfortable dance technique that really benefits her on stage. It's perfected and she's super fluent in her movement delivery. Karina may be the main dancer, but it's a recurring theme that she's in SM, and she still hasn't found her right stylistic approach yet, plus she's still not very fluid with her limbs, especially her lower body. But for an SM dancer she is definitely bery astounding. Soyeon is better than Wonyoung as her executions are better than Wonyoung imo. Wonyoung knows how to utilize her long limbs but she's very "playing it safe" when dancing.
For me Vocal 1. Karina ( she have good techniques she can reach e5 with ease in a good way) 2. Soyeon ( she has strong voice) 3. Wonyoung ( she has pretty cute vocals 4. Ryujin ( she's not into vocals but she have good and deep vocals Rap 1. Soyeon ( she's queen of rap I like her flow so much 2. Ryujin ( her deep and flow voice rap is everything 3.Karina ( it seems like she have the same tone with soyeon but she have good flow too) 4. Wonyoung Dance 1. Karina ( her moves are so clean and percise and sharp she have good body line control and she have 2. Ryujin ( she is so ENERGETIC and her moves are so sharp ) 3. Wonyoung ( her moves are so angelic to watch ) 4. Soyeon Stage presence 1. Soyeon ( she's everything) 2. Ryujin (she catch attentions) 3. Karina ( overflowing visuals and her fierce face) 4. Wonyoung ( angelic face) Visuals 1. Karina 2. Wonyoung 3. Ryujin 4. Soyeon
just so you know, soyeon’s a lead dancer in her group, and wondering is usually at the end of the ranking of izone in dance, so it makes no sense to put her before soyeon
@@Random-wd8cx I think they are both good that's why I'm confused who will be the 3rd I prefer wonyoung she have good body line sorry about that but soyeon is good tho
@@navisoori5391 ok though, wonyoung has very simple dancing style, I’m shocked people are placing her above. I suggest you look at soyeon’s dance solo and that’ll show you how she’s really good.
No one can deny Soyeon's power. The fact that she is the best gg rapper in 4th gen and can compete with 3rd gen rappers. She aint called CL Junior for nothing. Her vocals are also developed. Honestly she can be a lead vocalist in other groups if she stop straining her voice. Her charisma on stage is a top level. (G)I-DLE has one of the best stage presence on stage. Her facial expressions are so strong. Also I agree in all of these lists. I can understand why u put Wonyoung 2nd on Stage Presence. Even tho, shes young, her facial expressions are on point and shes not a center for nothing. Sorry for the long paragraph.
She also Contenstant Unpretty rap star Which There Are A 2nd Solo rapper that Will Voting And make you elimination from Ep. Its hard too in to unpretty rap, Becuase Most of contenstant are professional. She also got 3rd Best Rapper in unpretty rap star 3, and Also being Fourth Runner Line up. Which its mean She can be Jury in unpretty rap star.
And the fact that she is the 4th in the 100 list of most copyrighted idols 4 gen being the only woman with Minnie (also from Gidle) in the list, Sorry but she is the best. She could be not the most popular but she definitely is the most talented.
RYUJIN IS THE 4TH GEN QUEEN. The only legend who can make everything go viral just by breathing. Definitely a center material. Also an all-rounder who always performs above average.
Wonyoung has so much potential at her age. I'm not gonna be surprise if she's gonna be one of the most popular in the future. Karina's vocal surprised so much that even as Winter stan, she managed to snatch me since Forever era. I just can't stop falling for her.
I honestly believe that Ryujin should have placed 1st in dancing. This is just my opinion, don't come at me for it haha. But I'm a dancer so at least I can say that there is some credibility on how I see their dancing skills in a technical aspect. So, the thing is, I've probably watched every single stage of black mamba, as well as other performances of Karina, and what I've noticed is that some movements are slightly awkward, maybe because she has a habit of stiffening (*sometimes*) her head resulting from it not coordinating completely with the rest of her body and affects her techniques. As for Ryujin, she does tend to over-power, but I think she has cleaner, sharper, and finer movements, and controls her body really well. Then again, this is just my opinion. Everybody has their own, I'm just voicing out mine. Anyways, I love both girls equally, in fact I stan both groups and both of them are actually my biases, so it's not like I'm favoring one over the other haha. Keep supporting these groups everyone!!
Uhm your opinion is not valid you say ryujin should number 1 in dancing to karina how pathetic you are ryujin is stiff when she dance in feminine style karina can do both with ease gurl karina is more percise and clean, sharp and clear she have fluidity and she's more versatile and she's the only one idol who can pull off robotic dance style and for ryujin she have sharp too, energy because of their dance in itzy and she's messy in details karina was being praised by professional dancer because how unique she is. she is different from them karina have good body line, balanced put that in your mind
aespa karina, Ryujin; stiff and messy? I suggest you watch her fancam in the Mixnine survival show when they covered 'Really Really' by WINNER... She did that predebut😊
@@ella_3to341 in mixnine does it mean she's win she's good it means she have potential to be an idol like what I said ryujin she exxagerate her moves too much and also she's powerful dancer but she's messy sometimes ryujin is a good lead dancer tho, karina is more focused on clean and Percise movement rather than enegy if the audience will choose I'm sure they will pick ryujin because of energy they see but if professional dancer would choose they will choose karina because of her details and being a dancer is not all about energy I'm a dancer myself and they are both good but karina is just more impact
@Navya Singh no ghurl let's be real karina is more technical dancer I've seen her dance like she trained contemporary dance ballet like ballroom because she is so consistent about her moves her upper body is well controlled and her moves are so light and sharp she is versatile like a flying in the air and karina is good at angles and also her also body lower angles tripod steady angular that you can measure every move she does and yet flexible and for ryujin she have power and energetic hip-hop boyish dance she's more focus on that and she's good at locking her moves which is makes her attractive to people I've been trained dancing too as well, as of now not, because of quarantine I know her limit of her dance (karina) not to be disrespectful I'm just saying about facts and those people who are speaking about karina's dance skills who doesn't connect to her dance skills because they just storymakers about dancing abilities the only thing about karina is she did not show her full potential yet and her other moves of what she can do in the future and I'm sure for sure professional dancer choose karina because of her details and her versatility Ps: I don't care about how hard the choreo is blahblah as long as they delivered it well percise and clean because all main dancer can dance a hard choreography sm is not dumb shit for choosing their main dancer
@Navya Singh nah for me karina is still no. 1, Ryujin is powerful yes but not very versatile. Though karina just debuted you can tell she's quite versatile from her projects and her body lines especially are beautiful. My ranking would be Karina Ryujin Soyeon Wonyoung
When it comes to dance surely it's Karina,her control when it comes to dance are lit and I like her body proportion,she has one of the best body in kpop,ummmm I'm not a fan though,I just see it,and she just debut and we might see other content that fits to compare to other main dancer in kpop,and I think she has the yg vibes and his visual ohhh my god she look likes computer generated,I'mma Stan them
Soyeon is such an all-rounder. Rapper, singer, dancer, producer, leader, writer (lyrics), and she is so pretty! Glad to be supporting such a talented woman!!!❤️
Haha! The fact that I stan all 4! But WOOOWWWW, Karina is SOO good even though she's still a rookie and the rest are seniors! Soyeon, there are no WORDS for her, she's THAT talented! Self producing queen! One of the best kpop rappers of all time! Strong vocals and much more! Wonyoung, Gosh, I can't BELIEVE how far she's made and how AMAZING she is despite only being 16! She's so talented and been through so much! Plus, HER STAGE PRESENCE!!! Too bad Iz*one is gonna disband... Damn u CJ!!! And my!!!! Ryujin's deep voice SURPRISED me a LOT!!! I have NEVER felt like that! This happened at 6:47. I was SHOOK and BLOWN AWAY, frr! Plus, Her dancing is SOO POWERFUL! And she isn't even the main dancer in ITZY!!!
In order of my biases, my favorite are : 1 : Soyeon (my favorite female rapper and an amazing leader) 2 : Wonyoung (full of charisma, beauty and I love her voice) 3 : Karina (gorgeous with a lot of potential) 4 : Ryujin (amazing rapper and dancer)
It is accurate the others are more popular while karina is not as much as them cause she literally just debuted in November but we'll see . Anyways stream HWAA , NOT SHY , BLACK MAMBA and PANAROMA (😭😭😭😭love u Izone )
Yeah and also kprofile is based off of how biased they are, and often that doesn't translate into popularity. Like Lisa is more biased but you could argue that Jennie is overall more popular. So its not very accurate
Wonyoung has great color vocal and improved in that so can hit high note. She is leader dancer and sub rapper and vocalist so songwriter. She is only 16 years old and izone disband is hard for her.
As a dancer I would agree with Karina first , Ryujin second since Karina has overall very clean technique, particularly footwork while Ryujin is most of a show dancer which is like having bigger movements to attract audience attention ;)
Soyeon is queen she can literally do anything and when i mean everything i literally mean EVERYTHING stan a producer, lyricist, rapper, dancer vocalist
