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Mr TARDIS 19.9K subscribers The Daleks are the BEST Villains in my opinion, who had much larger, much more powerful, and way more successful Empire than the Galactic Empire from Star Wars ever did.
The bad accents in Daleks in Manhattan are one of my favorite bits. There are so many bad British accents by American actors, so it’s kinda fun to see it the other way ‘round
Just before I first watched this episode, my mother and I were joking, about the ways we Americans pronounce the word “Dalek,” and ended up imagining Lina Lamont from Singing in the Rain, getting cast in Doctor Who. “Rrrround tones, rrrrround tones. Dah-leks.” “Dallicks!” “Dah-leks.” “Darleks.” Then, I watched Daleks in Manhattan. It was like they had been reading my mind. Made the episode more enjoyable for me.
Exactly like the music and ambience for the Dead Planet as well as the 60s Daleks are like Diamond level masterpieces and I would love to be able to download them
I have to agree with you, the episode receives a lot of hate but it isn’t as bad as many people make it out to be, the general idea of the episode is actually very good and I love the Dalek sec Hybrid and I still get upset about his death because I think he should’ve been kept alive. I actually really like the story and feel it’s very underrated and too hated and it’s by far not the worst Dalek story in my opinion (I don’t really have a worst Dalek story to be honest, I just prefer certain episodes to others). I also feel very sorry for the actual writer of the episode because she was literally driven to tears because of the pure Backlash the episode received and for a long time she refused to write another episode (but luckily she returned to write the S4 episode The Sontaran Stratagem/The Poisoned sky, which is another very underrated episode in my opinion) xx
I do to. Its got loads of interesting ideas behind it, and while some of them flop, I think it's really good that they pushed the boat out on it. Also, plunging the Daleks into the art deco stylings of 30s, set against the backdrop of the depression, is a really good idea. It's still surprising to me that despite all that, it feels so inadequate and hollow. :/
I agree. What I don't like about those episodes are the pigmen and the dalek human hybrid. I'd rate it a lot higher of they'd come up with better ideas. Even mind controlling humans (which they've done several times now) is way better than just having new mooks.
kinda bummed the Stolen Earth/Journey's End clip didn't get intro'd with the Dalek's message for the human race because god damn that scene still gives me chills and Liz Sladen's reaction is marvelous.
I differ with Mr. Tardis on the relative merits of Evil of the Daleks. I watched it when it was originally broadcast in 1967, then repeated in 1968. It remains seared in my memory. The climactic Dalek civil war in episode 7 alone assures its place among the greatest Dalek stories of all time. But it has a good deal more going for it, including its stellar cast and the marvellous mansion house, Grim's Dyke, where it was filmed. What's more, the Daleks have never been more menacing. Despite its shortcomings, it remains my favourite Dalek story.
For reference, here's how Mr TARDIS ranked the Dalek stories back at the end of Dalekcember (in hindsight, this may have been slightly pointless because Mr TARDIS's opinions have remained very consistent in the year since Dalekcember): 24/23 - Asylum of the Daleks and The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar (tie). 22 - Destiny of the Daleks 21 - Into the Dalek 20 - Planet of the Daleks 19 - Victory of the Daleks 18 - Evil of the Daleks 17 - Daleks in Manhatten/Evolution of the Daleks 16 - The Chase 15 - Death to the Daleks 14 - Day of the Daleks 13 - Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 12 - The Daleks' Master Plan 11 - The Stolen Earth/Journey's End 10 - Resurrection of the Daleks 9 - Resolution 8 - Revelation of the Daleks 7 - The Daleks' Invasion of Earth 6 - The Daleks 5 - Remembrance of the Daleks 4 - Dalek 3 - Power of the Daleks 2 - Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways 1 - Genesis of the Daleks
Love it! Haven't seen many classics but my favourites are Dalek, The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar, The Parting of the Ways, Genesis of the Daleks.
Right here’s my ranking from what I’ve seen: 1. Genesis Of The Daleks 2. Bad Wolf/ Parting Of The Ways 3. Remembrance of the Daleks 4. Dalek 5. Revelation of the Daleks 6. The Dalek Invasion Of Earth 7. Into The Dalek 8. The Stolen Earth/ Journeys End 9. Resurrection of the Daleks 10. Revolution Of The Daleks 11. Resolution 12. Planet Of The Daleks 13. Death To The Daleks 14. The Daleks 15. Mission To The Unknown (not counting Masterplan) 16. Victory Of The Daleks 17. Army Of Ghosts/ Doomsday 18. The Chase 19. Day Of The Daleks 20. Daleks In Manhattan/ Evolution of the Daleks 21. The Magicians Apprentice/ The Witches Familiar 22. Destiny Of The Daleks 23. Asylum of the Daleks
I love these Dalek videos (I subscribed last year for your Dalekcember 2019 series if I'm not mistaken). And I love the 60's Daleks, can't beat them and they will ALWAYS be supreme! "They Think They May Have Successfully Escaped Us, But We, The Daleks, ARE STILL IN COMMAND!"
I know that Mishion to the Unknown is connected to the Daleks Master Plan, but l think the episode itself is very tense and unnerving due to there being no doctor to save the protagonists.
There’s a lot of randomly really funny/campy moments in Daleks in Manhattan that are great. In one part the Daleks start trying to secretly discuss their doubts about Sec, and so one of them “looks over his shoulder” to see if anyones listening, and the entire Dalek head does a full 180 at a comically slow speed. There’s another shot where the Pig Slaves are taking the lift to the top floor of the building to stop the Doctor and in the middle of all the action and tension there’s just a shot of all these Pigmen awkwardly waiting in the lift that made me spit out my drink.
brilliant ranking video! your videos are always so cleverly written and enjoyable to watch. My top three are probably: genesis of the daleks, power/victory of the daleks (both similar and brilliant, i can't decide) and magician's apprentice/witch's familiar (i just really enjoy this one despite it's stupidity.)
Same here I was expecting him to have it way lower but it made me happy seeing it a lot higher up because it is a very underrated episode and I actually like it tbh it’s not the best Dalek story ever but I still love it and Idk about u but I actually liked the paradigm Dalek design and wish they had kept it in the show for much longer. I also agreed with him so much about Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks as being the most underrated Dalek episode of all time, I actually really like the episode and felt bad for the writer because she was actually brought to physical tears over the massive backlash the episode received from the fandom and it made her not want to return to write another episode again (though she did luckily in series 4 because she wrote the episodes The sontaran stratagem/the poisoned sky) xx
This was a great video, I like the new format. It would be interesting to see you do the same thing with the Cybermen and the Master. Also, pehaps a Main Range Dalek stories ranking?
Planet, Destiny and the Series 9 opener are the only Dalek stories I categorically do not care for. Everything else is either a guilty pleasure, very good or some of the best Doctor Who ever made.
With the exception of 'Planet', which I do like, I agree with that statement. I can count the number of Dalek stories I'd consider bad or subpar on the fingers of one hand.
I've always had the impression that, even though they were trying to trick each other, both the Doctor and Davros really _did_ mean what they had said. The Doctor, especially Twelve, is the kind of person who hopes for the best but prepares for the worst; he would've been playing into Davros' plan whilst hoping at every step of the way that Davros _wouldn't_ follow through. On the other hand, I think Davros genuinely _does_ admire the Doctor, even if it's just because of his intelligence. It seems entirely likely that, like Missy, Davros would _love_ to be friends with the Doctor, but he never lets that get in the way of his plans. I also believe that the two of them _were_ treating the whole encounter as though it was their last, because neither of them could be completely _sure_ of what the other would do. If the Doctor ended up _not_ trying to help Davros, then they'd want to finally clear the air between them, and the same would go for if Davros didn't try to trap the Doctor. I don't think it's out of the question for Davros to want some validation in his final moments, nor do I believe the Doctor _wouldn't_ go into it hoping that Davros might change. I disagree with a lot of your points about the two-parter. The casing thing was to demonstrate just how far Davros went into limiting the Daleks' range of emotion; not only did he purge them of all positive emotions on a genetic level, he also encased them into machines that prevent anything that _does_ slip through from coming out. For the episodes being "confusing", this is what happens: 1. The Doctor accidentally lands on Skaro during its millenia-long war, almost saves space-Hitler when he was a child, and runs away in horror. 2. The Doctor, feeling ashamed of himself for leaving a child to die alone, hears that a dying Davros is looking for him. Believing that meeting Davros may lead to his death, he sends his will to his friend Missy, before performing a death ritual in the most un-Time Lord way he can: a big party _full_ of anachronisms. 3. The episode happens, with Davros and the Doctor hashing it out one final time, and Missy trying to get Clara to become as recklessly overconfident and arrogant as the Doctor. 4. The Doctor returns to Skaro in an attempt to teach young Davros about mercy, allowing just enough of his worldview to seep into Davros' that Davros is unable to completely purge the concept of mercy from the Daleks.
Favourite Dalek story for every Doctor 1. The Daleks' Masterplan 2. Evil of The Daleks 3. Day of The Daleks 4. Genesis of The Daleks 5. Resurrection of The Daleks 6. Revelation of The Daleks 7. Remembrance of The Daleks 8. Terror Firma 9. Bad Wolf and The Parting of The Ways 10. The Stolen Earth and Journey's End 11. Victory of The Daleks 12. The Magician's Apprentice and The Witch's Familiar 13. Revolution of The Daleks
Love the editing on this. I can't speak as to the quality of most of the Classic Series ones as I haven't seen them, but overall a solid list. While I have a few issues with the equivalences it tries to make, I think my favorite has to be Dalek. It had a simple goal: To make that metallic pepper pot the most terrifying thing in the universe. And it succeeded, re-establishing the Daleks not only in their actions but in their motivations. A tall order from young me's perspective, but they did it. Maybe too much. Honestly, I think a problem with the Davies Era (The, uh, first one) was that the Daleks were SO powerful that if they weren't extinct or rendered down to only a few they were a threat that needed to be dealt with IMMEDIATLY or everyone dies. Same with The Master and to a lesser extent the Cybermen. Moffat's Era...brought them back permanently but significantly reduced the fear factor ngl. I think Chibbers's stuff has the best of both worlds: The Daleks still exist, they're still very powerful and it takes clever planning to defeat them, but it's not like they're gonna wipe out everything if the Doctor isn't looking, yeah?
6:35 You're misrepresenting how Clara slapping the Doctor is portrayed in the actual episode. While a female character slapping the male character has been played as "funny" numerous times in series 6-8 of the new series, here it's not. Here it's supposed to be played as a "dramatic" moment as Clara is annoyed at the Doctor's cynical attitude to believing the Daleks are incapable of becoming good. Now I'm not defending the moment itself as I don't like it either and could easily be edited out, but it's something I thought it was worth pointing out. Apart from that this list was really good.
@@ftumschk Forgot about that one. TBF her daughter had gone missing for a year & the Doctor was responsible for it so I can understand why she’d do it (though the less said about Rose’s “so gay” comment the better). Yeah the RTD era did also women assault men for the sake of comedy too (Which Mr Tardis acknowledged in his Asylum of the Daleks review) but it’s not as frequent as those 3 seasons. Thankfully they seemed to realise that it wasn’t right & there hasn’t been any of that in series 9 & onwards.
@@BH-98 Jackie slapping the Doctor was very understandable, most egregious example is easily Tennant getting felt up by that woman in End of Time as Mr Tardis pointed out. Men being victims of things like domestic abuse and sexual assault from women is something our society has been slow to realise ergo our media is just as slow on the uptake.
My personal ranking is Classic who 1. Power of the Daleks 2. Remembrance of the Daleks 3. Genesis of the Daleks. 4. Daleks Aka The Dead Planet 5. Resurrection of the Daleks 6. Dalek invasion of Earth 🌎 7. Evil of The Daleks 8. Death to the Daleks 9. Planet of the Daleks 10. Day of the Daleks. 11. Daleks Master plan. 12. Destiny of the Daleks. 13. The chase. 14. Revelation of the Daleks New who 1. Stolen Earth 🌎/Journeys End. 2. Bad Wolf 🐺/The parting of the ways 3. Resolution (of the Daleks) 4. Dalek 5. Eve of the Daleks 6. Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 7. Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 8. Victory of the Daleks 9. The magicians apprentice/the witches Familiar 10. Asylum of the Daleks
Here’s mine: 25) Death to the Daleks 24) Asylum of the Daleks 23) Destiny of the Daleks 22) Into the Daleks 21) Magician’s Apprentice/Witch’s Familiar 20) Day of the Daleks 19) Resolution 18) Revelation of the Daleks 17) Planet of the Daleks 16) Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 15) Resurrection of the Daleks 14) Revolution of the Daleks 13) Genesis of the Daleks 12) Dalek Invasion of Earth 11) Evil of the Daleks 10) Power of the Daleks 9) Victory of the Daleks 8) Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 7) The Dalek’s Master Plan 6) The Daleks 5) Remembrance of the Daleks 4) The Chase 3) Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways 2) Stolen Earth/Journey’s End 1) Dalek
This would be my ranking. Not including Army or Ghosts/Doomsday as it's more of a Daleks vs Cybermen story 24.) Asylum of the Daleks 23.) Destiny of the Daleks 22.) The Magicians Apprentice/The Witches Famiar 21.) Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 20.) Planet of the Daleks 19.) The Chase 18.) Revelation of the Daleks 17.) Into the Dalek 16.) Revolution of the Daleks 15.) Resurrection of the Daleks 14.) Day of the Daleks 13.) Death to the Daleks 12.) Victory of the Daleks 11.) The Dalek Invasion of Earth 10.) The Stolen Earth/Journeys End 9.) Resolution 8.) The Daleks 7.) Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways 6.) The Evil of the Daleks 5.) Power of the Daleks 4.) Remembrance of the Daleks 3.) Genesis of the Daleks 2.) The Daleks Masterplan 1.) Dalek
Death to the Daleks will always have a soft spot with me, being my no1 vhs as a kid. But I’ll never get over that Dalek before trying to attack the Exxilons at the mine going “oooh exterminate” 😂 so scary (!)
Great Ranking of the Dalek stories. I haven't seen the old Era of Dalek Stories. 1. The stolen Earth/ world's End 2. Dalek 3. Doomsday 4. Bad Wolf/ Parting of the ways 5. Resolution 6. Revolution of the Daleks 7. Daleks in Manhattan/ Evolution of the Daleks 8. Into the Dalek 9. Victory of the Daleks 10. The Magicians apprentice 11. Asylum of the Daleks My Opinion on the Dalek stories
The original script for Dalek was originally going to be called Absence of the Daleks and featured a single Toclafane instead (But it wasn’t going to be called a Toclafane at the time)
Exterminate and Obey wasn’t the catchphrase of the Daleks until the Chase even though Dalek Invasion of Earth had more exterminate lines than the original story.
I loved your comment about "cause it's fine when it happens to men am I right" I have always said we should be more equal like that It's not ok to hit anyone not just woman
Funny how people think daleks first fly up stairs in 'Dalek' yet it was years earlier in 'Remembrance' during the iconic cliffhanger to episode 1 - you've even said the same yourself here! A decent list though
No, sorry, can't possibly agree with ranking 'Evil' so low, maybe it's an age thing, but there are some really cool lines in that story. Plus it left an indelible impression on my infant brain
Great video, surprised by how much I agree with the choices, I always felt asylum was the worst though, the actual idea that the Daleks would keep them prisoner is absolutely laughable.
1. Power of the Daleks 2. Daleks Master Plan 3. Genesis of the Daleks 4. Revelation of the Daleks 5. The Daleks 6. Evil of the Daleks 7. The Daleks Invasion of Earth 8. Remembrance of the Daleks 9. Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways 10. Resurrection of the Daleks
While I personally would flip Revolution Of The Daleks as #13 and The Daleks' Master Plan as #12, I completely agree with this list. Originally, I thought that Asylum Of The Daleks was #25 instead of #24 due to the Amy/Rory subplot happening right around the time that my parents were divorcing, but I can see why it betters The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar which is rightfully at #25. And of course, Genesis Of The Daleks is absolutely the #1 Dalek story in the history of televised Doctor Who.
It seems you're ranking these stories as Dalek stories first and foremost (in regards to which ones best utilise or do the most interesting things with the iconic pepper pots). Fair enough... But it would be interesting to find out your ranking of these stories when evaluating them from a more general and overall sense. How would the list change?
@@TheWhovinerd-1963 I know. I accept that given the title of this video, his focus and priority is to look at them as Dalek stories. Fair enough. I'm just saying it would also be interesting if he were to quickly mention at the end of this video, in the description or in the comments what his listing would be if he were to look at these stories more generally.
Just me who thinks Magician's Apprentice/Witches Familiar is quite good? Like not the best thing ever but honestly I've never thought the tank scene was that bad - isn't it kind of supposed to be ridiculous? Like the Doctor's lost all connection with reality and is just arsing about doing daft stuff I dunno I've not seen it in a while - maybe it won't hold up but I remember quite enjoying it last time I saw it
Planet of the Daleks maybe no 1 for me , odd choice for most but I was a kid who fell in love with Doctor Who by watching Jon Pertwee in this story and also death to the daleks , the only 2 stories I had growing up so of course I have big love for them , don't think the other is well liked either lol
I love it too! Granted, it’s been some time since I’ve last seen it, but I remember finding it really engaging throughout. The Draconians were such an interesting alien species, Three and the Master were in top form (as always), and this is my absolute favourite appearance of Jo Grant, where her growth from “Terror of the Autons” couldn’t be more evident.
It’s controversial but I actually like Victory of the Daleks and Into the Dalek!! Apart from that, retty good rankings but I’d perhaps rank Power at 2 and Revelation at 3.
I’m sorry but I just don’t get the hype for power of the daleks. I was constantly bored out of my mind in every episode. Maybe I would like it better if it was exisiting.
I think we lose a helluva lot without seeing the actual episodes. I get the animated DVDs because I'm a completist, but after one or two views I find myself going back to the original soundtracks and treating them as if they were Big Finish or radio plays. The cartoon versions don't engage me as much, and I often find the animation distracting.
The reason the episode gets so much hype is because this episode cemented the Daleks place in the Whoniverse because in this story the Daleks are vulnerable and that is when the Daleks are always at their best they are evil Conniving and filled with pure hatred, this episode basically made the Daleks the scary villains we know them to be. I personally don’t mind the animations because it’s better than not seeing the episode at all xx
Sorry we all have our own personal preferences. Mine is Evil of the Daleks, Power of the Daleks and Genesis of the Daleks will always be my favourites.
@@VuddyProductions sorry I may formulate the question wrong. I'm asking when it happened to Clara. Clearly she wasn't doctor's companion during that time Daleks captured her. I suppose it was act on her own?
"Into the Dalek" had Ben Crompton, a fan favourite from Game of Thrones and they didn't even give him a close up shot. He's just there in the wide shots with everyone else and then he's dead.
My ranking would be: 1. Genesis of The Daleks 2. The Stolen Earth/Journey’s End 3. Dalek 4. Remembrance of The Daleks 5. Revolution of The Daleks 6. The Power of The Daleks 7. Bad Wolf/The Parting of The Ways 8. The Daleks Masterplan 9. The Evil of The Daleks 10. Resolution 11. The Dalek Invasion of Earth 12. The Magician’s Apprentice/The Witches Familiar 13. Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 14. The Daleks 15. Revelations of The Daleks 16. Resurrection of The Daleks 17. Daleks In Manhattan/Evolution of The Daleks 18. Planet of The Daleks 19. Into The Dalek 20. Day of The Daleks 21. Mission to the Unknown 22. Death To The Daleks 23. Destiny of The Daleks 24. Asylum of The Daleks 25. Victory of The Daleks 26. The Chase
The problem with Doomsday was that it was just a mockery, and arguably caused Cyberman stories and their reputation to suffer for 11 years before Series 10 where fans started warming back up to them.
All missing episodes have their audios available for listening, and the presence of telesnaps (‘screenshots’ taken for reference) as well as behind-the-scenes pictures allows for strong reconstructions recapturing how the broadcast would have been like. In addition, both “The Power Of The Daleks” and “Evil Of The Daleks” have been fully animated. For more information about the current status of missing episodes and all the different ways you can experience each of them, I’d highly recommend you Josh Snares’ video on the matter.
For me remembrance of the daleks is my #1 favourite because the stories interesting the daleks are amazing and the action is incredible not blockbuster quality but really good for classic who standards
I'm currently doing a Dalek marathon of everything story wise they've been in throughout this lockdown, so I've do e alot of reviews about them on my Instagram, so this video came out at the right time. I'm so glad "The magicians apprentice/the witches familiar" is last it's my least favourite Dalek story of everything they've been in. There are some stories I've came across like annual stories or short comics that are ridiculously werid or gets them wrong, like a mole defeating them or Daleks believing red is explosion proof or even being defeated by pebbles. But all of those ridiculous stories don't take themselves seriously and embrace the werid side and make jokes about the Daleks. But "The Magicians Apprentice" just thinks it's being very clever and deep and tries to win special fan points for Dalek references. Some that don't even work and are there for the sake of it, like why is a renegade Dalek there if Davros has some control of these Daleks again? Plus I'll never not get mad at that idea of the Daleks aren't really evil nonsense. If you want to do that idea with a twist do it to fit the theme of Davros dying, have a what if ? Maybe in his last days alive he actually did try out the doctors idea of making them less aggressive and have an understanding of Pitty etc. But as it's Davros who also like to desive, have the suit try and stop that so in his messed up head he's got both bad Daleks and good Daleks all in one. If anyone likes the story your okay too. Btw if you want check out my Reviews @behindasofacreations
Maybe I need to give it another chance but I really hated the dalek invasion of earth. I find the lack of budget really held it back to me. I loved the original Dalek but this one really benefitted from the bigger budget of the movie
