my bias is ningning, but i gotta admit that her visual is not that 'standard' in korea. however i love her so much, she dont need to be number one in visual, we have her in aespa is already a blessing. you know, we have been waiting for her to debut since long ago, she deserve it!!! ❤
Beauty is subjective and maybe she’s doesn’t attract to ningning.well and it’s about who firs the kbs and ningning is not it.she’s more to the international one
I love this list. But the dance, i really can't rank both groups. I think Aespa didn't showcase their real dance talent though. Aespa has elegant songs with elegant movements while itzy has strong songs with strong movements. But it's just what i have observed though. Aespa still has a long way to go. Stan AESTZY ‼️
@@dearheeseung4949 just because Aespa are more vocal doesn't mean that they could have great dancers. We had see them dance for 2 songs, both with elegant sounds. We can't judge their dance capacity now, especially since we saw Karina dance hip-hop on Knowing Bros(?) and she didn't really showed her real talent.
@@Elena-lj9db Yes you can lol, you can clearly see that itzy’s Dance line is always going to be stronger then aespa’s and buy that i mean while aespa grows itzy is also going to grow that’s just how it works, and since Aespa is more of a Vocal group their not going to pay attention on dance as much as they are on vocal, and i did see Karina’s dance on “knowing brothers” it still proves my reasoning and you can see that karina is a little stiff when she dances because her flow isn’t that good when she dances she severely lacks in dance compared to other main dancers how ever she is the strongest dancer in aespa so I see why she has her main dancer roll.
Damn aespa omg, they're such all rounders and yes karina top in visuals. Yeji is so breathtaking too, Also, I hope itzy can improve a lil more in vocals ♡
Why should ITZY improve in vocals? They're vocal queens. Differ between Aespa & ITZY's training period. ITZY has got trained for more than a year and Aespa, not even for straight 6 months. Aespa needs to be improved not ITZY
@@aykaywrites itzy trained longer, but aespa is still better. They both need to improve, but everyone knows that itzy isn't a vocal group that's why this commenter probably said that.
@@oneandonly8572Why do tgey both need to import? Who said Aespa is better? They perform lip sync with pre recorded vocals. ITZY sings live with their own voice. Aespa is still a newbie because they haven't completed a year of debut yet and they haven't showed up singing live anywhere. And For your Kind information, Aespa is also a not vocal group.
I'm sorry but I think that karina and lia should be tied. Karina definitely lacks materials, but from what I heard, her *sense of support is way stronger than lia's one* Lia on the other hand despite being able to support upto A4, her *sense of support is tense, tight and nasal*
tbh I'm wondering since sm is known to have good vocalist and have a high standard for main vocal (even the lead vocal in sm could be the main vocal in other groups) what do you think lia position would be if she stay in sm? still main vocal or?
My ranking for their visuals are: (Super different and unexpected) 1. Karina 2. Winter 3. Giselle 4. Ryujin 5. Ningning 6. Chaeryeon 7. Yeji 8. Yuna 9. Lia They're super pretty😍
@@imnotpamoo don't forget Jang Wonyoung! She was actually confirmed as the only IT girl of the 4th gen by knetz, and other websites!! Wonyoung and Karina are the IT girls of the 4th gen
@Pika Soo🍒 Yup Yuna must be better in your opinion but eventually they only rapped in 2 songs but is was powerful you know ! And giselle is stronger than Ryujin and Yuna also i don't even stan Aespa i am just addicted to their songs i am midzy and accept reality Aespa are seniors of Itzy so it obvious that aespa are more skilled than itzy
Vocal: Aespa ( obviously ) Rap: No hate to Itzy but Aespa here has more powerful Rap especially giselle VISUAL : All but Karina tops with her beauty Dance : Itzyy they have one of the most hardest choreography after twice what do you think !? Itzy are from JYP Thats my rankings
Yes!!! The two chae sis are on a different level! I hate how midzey's seriously have such a big debate about the best dancer, it's without a doubt Chaeryeon!!!!! In kpop dance #1 is obviously Chaeyeon, while #2 is Chaeryeon!!! #3 could probably be Juhyeon from lightsum
@@1ia802 ehhh, Lisa and Momo are good but not the best. Sua and Seungyoun are also top tier main dancers but just don't get hyped bc they're not from big companies like momo and lisa. But they're good dancers too! And I think momo is a better dancer than lisa honestly.
For me yeji is always number 1 when it comes to dance🔥(I know chae is great dancer too but I prefer yeji's style more and her face expressions make her the top in the performance too and make her dance more powerful
@Yousr Meso i haven't seen a single aespa stage where they sing live and have stage presence tho like they are talented girls but i prefer them outside the stage as of now
Agree, aespa's stage presence is really non existent but they have talent and they're super new so give them like 3 years to improve. And Itzy's presence is also just average they've had 2 years to improve and I'd say their stage presence right now is good enough for their age as a group but they could improve too.
@@milipuga they sound as clear af so ppl think they haven't done live singing yet. Even ningning announced "WE DO IT LIVE YOROBUUUN~~~" but ppl who doubt will always doubt them. It's SM thing, home of good vocals~
ITZY'S all members have unique visuals and they're the visual queens. AESPA is just a newbie in Kpop industry. They haven't even completed a year of debut. AESPA needs to be improved. They use Pre recorded vocals in their stage performances from Black Mamba to Next Level. Yes, it's true that ITZY voice isn't stable during performances but atlest they don't sing on pre recorded vocals. ITZY SINGS LIVE. Check their Wannabe comeback stages. They're the most stable there. & even compare to Aespa's and ITZY's choreography. Itzy has hard moves in dances but Aespa don't. Aespa has easy dance choreos. I'm JYP stan and I know how to differ someone's Vocals, Raps, Visuals, Dances, and their skills.
Itzy may not have the strongest vocals but ATLEAST THEY ALWAYS SING LIVE :) not to mention the difficulty of their choreo. And tbh, most of them are stable.
idk i can agree with everything except with that visual ranking i feel like winter has the best korean visual and yeji also deserves higher cuz of her eyes but im not sure
If Aetzy is a group of 9 members, i would put it this way Karina -> Leader, Lead Vocal, Lead Dancer, Rapper Yeji -> Main Dancer, Sub Vocal, FOTG Lia -> Lead Vocal, potential Visual Giselle -> Main Rapper, Lead Vocal Winter -> Main Vocal, potential Visual Ryujin -> Center, Lead Dancer, Rapper, FOTG Chaeryeong -> Main Dancer Ningning -> Main Vocal Yuna -> Lead Dancer, potential visual I'm being realistic not to put everyone in every position and making a lot of leads and subs, but this OT9 will be so powerfull in Singing, Dancing, and Rapping.
It's really accurate! I love how the groups have different Styles, since Itzy is more dance and Aespa is more vocal oriented. WHICH DEFINITELY IS NOT A BAD THING! Aetzy are 4th Gen LEADERS and Ryujin/Yeji and Karina are 4th Gen IT-Girls :3
@@notsus3698 ITZY have better Dance then aespa? You right, but it doesn't mean aespa's Dance are bad. Their Dance also great. And for rap, The only Rapper in ITZY is Ryujin other then her are just "ok they can rap". No one of others 4 members deserve Lead Rapper position. They should like Gidle that only have Main Rapper. That's it. While all aespa Rap-line are such amazing. Not only "can rap", but they are real Rapper. Karina can easily become Main Rapper in other group and Giselle is Female version of Mark Lee. Aespa is the real "Well-Rounder Group". They have Amazing Vocal-line & Rap-line, have great & solid Dance-line, All members are great Vocalist & Dancer, All members have amazing Visuals, and all of them can doing Rap in right way. They are really "Well-Arounder" as both Group and Individuals.
@@notsus3698 mam but the comment you are replying to is not sayin that aespa is better than itzy the person who made the comment said that aespa is a 4th gen all rounder group
@@notsus3698 oh ok because I felt like the person who commented the comment just wanted to say how they felt like aespa was an rounder without comparing it to itzy my bad
@@notsus3698 you are saying so coz we have seen more of itzy and their rapping..... We have seen Giselle also... But karina has just started showing her rap skills..... Just wait for next comeback.... Aespa had not even completed one yr and everyone has started comparison..... Just wait till they show their real self
@@user-ur5ez1gv3i And guess why's that? Because Itzy is bigger. Giselle and Karina are better than Yeji and Yuna, Ryujin is the only one in the group that actually is a rapper, but still Giselle is better. It's like saying Loona's rap line is better than Aespa because it's bigger- Like-
I agree with all EXCEPT for placing Yeji 9th for visuals, I guess it’s personal opinion. but for me I’d rank : 1) Winter 2) Karina 3) Ryujin 4) Yeji 5) Ning Ning 6) Yuna 7) Lia 8) Chaeryeong 9) Giselle
My ranking in visual 1. karina 2. Winter 3. Yuna 3. Ryujin 4. Ningning 5. Lia 6. Gisele 7. Chaeryeong 8. Yeji This was really hard to rank because all of them or beautiful
So Ningning sounds like Bada (Vocal Queen of 1st Gen), Dance like a Main Dancer when she's the Main Vocal (Like Jihyo), has the visual of Jennie, Joy, Minnie, and Chungha, is a trilingual queen. She really is the COMPLETE PACKAGE 🔥👀
This is my Ranking, this ranking is based on my observation 😉 Vocal 1. Ningning - ofc the queen of vocal in 4th gen (she drinks sm water) 2. Winter - her vocal is like a main vocal in other group and ofc she's from sm too 3. Lia - maybe she's a main vocal in itzy so i put her as 3rd spot but i think her vocal range is suitable as lead vocal, don't bashing i'm telling the truth 4. Giselle - fyi she's a former choir member so what did you expect? she had a good and strong vocal and fyi her hobby is reaching high notes 5. Karina - her vocal is lead vocal material in other group watch her pre-debut video her high notes is very strong (FYI: all members in aespa are Main Vocalist, watch their previous vlog i forgot that name ‘Winter said that they have not permanent position.’ So all members in aespa could be Main Vocal 6. Yeji - Lead Vocal in ITZY 7. Chaeryeong - i really love her voice, i think jyp put her position as Lead Vocal, because she had a good vocal technique 8. Yuna 9. Ryujin Dance 1. Chaeryeong - Queen of Dance in 4th gen 2. Yeji - Main Dancer of ITZY 3. Karina - Main Dancer of aespa 4. Ryujin/Yuna - their moves like a main dancer 5. Winter - lead dancer of aespa 6. NingNing - this girl i swear when i watch her fancam in BLACK MAMBA and NEXT LEVEL i thought she part in dance line, because her moves like a lead dancer 7. Giselle/Lia Rap 1. Giselle - Girl, she had a good flow in rap and i really love her rapping style very fast and clear and i think she's the PRINCESS of RAP in 4th gen, because SOYEON is the QUEEN of RAP 2. Ryujin - main rapper of ITZY 3. Karina - her rap flow is very clear and fast 4. Yuna - lead rapper 5. Yeji - sub-rapper 6. Chaeryeong - sub-rapper 7. Lia - sub-rapper 8. NingNing 9. Winter Visual 1. Winter 2. Karina 3. Lia 4. Yuna 5. Ryujin 6. Giselle 7. NingNing 8. Yeji 9. Chaeryeong ALL ROUNDER - can sing like a main vocalist - can dance like a main dancer - can rap - also visual 1. AESPA 2. ITZY i'm not being biased or what, but everyone agree that aespa is very all-rounder kpop group in this generation. I LOVE ITZY TOO, I LOVE THEIR DANCE CHOREOGRAPHY BECAUSE IT'S SO HARD HEHEHE VOCAL - AESPA DANCE - ITZY RAP - AESPA VISUAL - AESPA ALL-ROUNDER - AESPA WELL-ROUNDED - ITZY POPULARITY 1. ITZY 2. AESPA MOST AWARDED IN ENCORE STAGE 1. ITZY 2. AESPA
My opinion Dance 1.yeji 2.chaeryeong 3.ryujin 4.karina 5.yuna 6.winter 7.ningning 8.lia 9.giselle Vocal 1.ningning 2.winter 3.lia 4.giselle 5.yeji 6.karina 7.chaeryeong 8.yuna 9.ryujin Rap 1.ryujin 2.giselle 3.yuna 4.karina 5.yeji 6.chaeryeong 7.winter 8.lia 9.ningning Visual 1.yuna 2.winter 3.ryujin 4.karina 5.ningning 6.lia 7.yeji 8.chaeryeong 9.giselle Bias All of them and this is not a hate I mean everyone is better in everything 👑👑👑💖💖💖💞💞💗💖💕💕❤❤❤
@diyana shujaat yes and I think she or he is aespa fan because she or he says giselle 1st in Rap and yuna is more beautiful than winter and karina yuna is in top 25 most beautiful kpop female idols
wtf, karina is a goddess, koreans only talk about her all her fancams are viral in korea, how can you say ryujin is a better visual while koreans say karinz is the top visual of the 4th gen. Then giselle is a much better raper than ryujin. Ryujin is a rapper idol who doesn't write her own lyrics while giselle is a real rapper who writes her lyrics herself (in her sync video she even managed to put 3 different languages).
@@limalicia-ws3un the visual is according to Korean criteria. The videos on youtube mean nothing. Karina is considered to be the visual top of the 4th gen in Korea, every move and gesture goes viral, she has a lot more influence in Korea
Vocal: 1. NingNing 2. Lia (Unpopular, but Lia is very underrated vocalist. I mean she's not great but technicaly she's stronger than many of vocalist that are praised for their skills 🤷♀️) 3. Winter 4. Giselle 5. Yeji/Karina 6. Chaeryeong 7. Yuna 8. Ryujin Rap: 1. Ryujin/Karina (I would say that Ryujin is better at rapping and Giselle is better rapper (Idk if that makes sence 😂)) 2. Yuna 3. Yeji 4. Chaeryeong 5. Karina 6. Lia 7. Winter 8. NingNing Dance: 1. Chaeryeong 2. Yeji 3. Ryujin 4. Yuna 5. Karina 6. Winter 7. NingNing 8. Giselle 9. Lia
