It's insane how Bahamut, and their true form is completely free for how strong they are. In any other game with gacha mechanics, You would get a worse version for free, and have to pay a lot or get insanely lucky to get an unit like them. Edit: can we stop having a war in replies? It's been 2 months and i still get notifications.
well, given how good you have to be to beat bun bun at that stage, it feels like you got the best value for money cat once you beat the hardest chapter stage of EOC, and its a reward for completing the main story of Battle Cats.
@NoobySan_wich you mean ITF chap 3? That's where you get Awakened Bahamut, his true form after beating his alien boss counterpart. Not crazed bahamut, his evolved form, which IS from EOC chapter 3
mina is probably my fav legend unit because well before u unlock her when looking at her silhouette screen, it doesnt show her attack animation so its really funny surprise when you get to her stage and she has a bazooka thats probably one of the most memorable battle cats moments imo, and a highlight of the game for me
Doesn't seems that horrible for me tbf Mina placement is bruh, Luza is too high, the others seems fine by me (not exactly accurate with my personal ranking but good enough)
@@skyjack1 Luza demolished most Relic enmies, and can perform well in surge stages and behemoth stages, i think he deserved to be high. Being sluggish doesn't matter much when his role as a nuker is pretty passive and he can just shrug off any damage the relic do anyway.
Ururun is probably my favorite unit in the game, period. It felt so satisfying to unlock her after so long, and I really do appreciate how well she holds up in viability throughout the game. Sure, Urs overshadows her in the very endgame, but they still work super well together.
I would rank nyandam due to the fact that he’s one of the few non-Ubers who has more than 500 range. also, I would rank cat God over mecha bun due to the fact that cat God can have a lot of usage when you use them on small stages, opposed to mecha bun who just gets outclassed once you get better units.
Im sorry, did you say for Luza, I need to get: 100 TOTAL STONES?!!?!? Ponos had 5 gallons of crack, destroyed their computer, got drunk, smash their keybord and said "fuck it" and gave some big ass number of stones.
Imagine if someone gave away 15 memberships during the premiere of this video. Good video too btw, just dogu so high bothers me a little but since that's subjective I won't complain
I honestly do think if Valkyrie Cat gets Talents like the purchase specials, she could become a decent unit again. Also regarding the Omens boss, I'm learning really fast that they are very easy to control... the actual boss is the Wild Doge that spawns and destroys your defenses...
@@tacotown4598 her niche is freeze vs everything with almost 100% uptime if she procs again, just increase her freeze chance and you'll get healer but better
@@Am_Cookie2436 she has 50% uptime, even if she constantly procs, and her proc chance is 35%. Ponos has almost never added talents that increase proc chance, and even if they did that wouldn’t fix her low uptime and god awful….everything else.
Should have given Filibuster "Massive Damage" and a large forward Omni. That way they feel like Filibuster nuking the whole map. And the Massive Damage DPS would be about 10k, Which is mostly fine.
Personally, I use Mecha Bun more than Schoolbus Nyandam as I opened a new account and got Mecha Bun recently. And while Nyandam is amazing, I think Mecha Bun is actually more usable in 4-star tanking stages because I don't have any other good tankers. Meanwhile, Nyandam can be outclassed by rushing stages down and SoL's high range units between 440(Ururun's range) and 551(Nyandam's range) are limited. One example is Emperor Nyandam but he can be easily rushed down with Courier even in 4-star. However, Mecha-Bun can be used against Camelle even with A. Bahamut on your team as Mecha-Bun can be used as a secondary attacker next to him. However, the hopes and dreams of these two being good are crushed after you get UL legends and better cats.
Bruv if the enemy filibuster attacked 2x faster I doubt you'd get a true form with a 6 sec. foreswing. Edit: now that I haven't just woken up I realised that 20 seconds foreswing for metafilibuster would be difficult
@@martincseri3482 I mean, technically (because of the inclusion of the other EOC completion rewards (Valkyrie and Buhamed)) Moneko would fall under this Classification because it counts as a Chapter Completion reward
@@SodiColaUwU moneko can be upgraded to level 40 with catseyes and legend cats can't until you beat the first level of UL when you are able to upgrade them to level 40 with catseyes like other units but you also unlock the ability to upgrade non legend cats to level 50 and well moneko is able to be leveled to 50
uM AcTuAllY if yOu'Re TaLKiNg aBouT foRmS thAt pLaY dIffEreNtlY pRe-TF FoRm LUza wOulD bE lAsT pLaCe 🤓 also kinda surprised you put pre-TF bahamut so high up. I guess 110k nuke damage from 450 range is solid, but you also pointed out literally every flaw that makes it irrelevant late to end-game lol, concluded as poor mobility. one-shotting 200% wild doge is nice I guess, but the slow attack rate means it's not really practical unless you can somehow stall swarms of wild doge for that period of time, which at that point you may as well use other damage-dealing units. I would at least make a bit of an argument for cat god and yulala; cat god's far piercing omni gives it a niche on short stages, allowing it to act as a chipper at 850 range from the base. also is useful for cheesing stages. yulala has 18k LD dps against relic enemies at level 50, along with short cooldown and generally high mobility. I don't think that's just "chip" lol; it would be feasible to use yulala as your primary anti-relic attacker. also you did musashi dirty; you mentioned you wouldn't take into account uber/legend rares presumably so you could talk about the validity of niches within the sphere of legend units, but then you also mention talented dancer. admittedly, a talented special cat is different, but I still think it's funny. overall great vid! I've been trying to get back into battle cats recently and RU-vidrs like you are the way I've been doing it. you've earned a new sub 👍
Socrates dosent have a TF yet and sage is way to new to say anything, socrates cat niche isnt great due to his kinda lack luster kit, his spirit can be a yood enabler for a team push but other then that socrates inst that great, id generously put him above musashi in usefullness but i reckon he deserves a higher spot Esoteric Uril gais absurd buffs on his true form, fixing everything weak or lack luster about him before with him, having strong means he has much better dps and improves his allready great survivability boosted even further by surge imune and a range increase wich actualy helps his damage stay consistant by closing the gap between his range and his surge making them overlap iften for way more damage, giving him a curse ability only added to his support abilitys allowing him to bless bassicaly every cat with curse imune from relics and help out with other debuffs, uril has a strong hold on the meta, having great matchups agaist all of his traits while being somewhat cheap,lasting long in battle, decently fast recharge, good dps, and great supportive capabilities, he would have to take nalas spot at second place, A. bahamut is still just such a important unit that i feel like you cant compete agaist him, but Uril comes close in terms of sheer power
Uril is better than bahamut in end game and by a lot. Uril destroys most relic and aku stages having both insane support capabilities and very decent dps. Bahamut is still good and practically essential for mid-late game, but he is just not the best in end game where you would get uril tf
Valkyrie is worse than filibuster in my opinion filibuster isn't great but he functions against traitless and relic bosses pretty well and I get use out of him on occasion
You must be REALLY desperate for anti traitless and relic because failbuster’s usage against them is incredibly subpar. He’s genuinely useless for just about the entire game, at least valk has some early game usage.
I think relic bun bun is good but is outclassed by yulala their Dmg is the same. Atonement for original sin is a stage where mecha bun can be used to tank the bosses
Honestly for me, awakened bahaumut is below naala. In my experience, in late game naala is significantly more useful. Abaha is amazing but naala is so strong
@@rylangraham9748 thx for the help, but I found out and it's "the batte cas db" or something, but it's all in japanese so you gotta google translate the page
Bro why is mecha bun one of the lowest especially lower than musashi. I never once used true form musashi i would consider him useless but mecha bun was so useful in begging on UL, he carries on stages with Loki and old horn so how is he worse than a useless wave immune low real use musashi
Easy, because mecha bunbun It is too expensive for what it offers, it is simply not worth it, there are many better things for the job it has, slapsticks, mina, ururun, rodeo, modern, etc., it is simply unusable In most of the game, even if you tell me that early is good, there are simply better options for the job, mushashi on the other hand tell me 2 or 3 wave immunity attackers that are not talent Musashi is bad yes, but it is usable thanks to that wave immunity, floor 30, 49 (if it works on 49), many 4* stages with waves, much more than what mecha does in its entire miserable existence
Yeah, i think she's better than Ururun. Lordmarkiquad mentioned that Mina isn't fitting for the end game but that can also be apply to Ururun as well consider the fact that Ururun is a generalist backliner that can be replaced by better option like Urs. Between a generalist backliner vs a generalist sniper, a sniper would have more value consider the wide amount of high range enemies that normal attackers can't reach. Overall, Mina is a bit low in the ranking and i think she can be place higher.
I’m realy sorry but you are misinformed if you think a Bahamian is better than ANY UL unit, you say you are weighting this ranking towards end game but with zero legends full or behemoths you simply can’t rank a no health mediocre damage rusher over Doug min who by the way has just as much damage against his typing with about 30 times the health
As a rusher, Doron's surge is really incosistent, if it doesn't hit the right target, Doron will lose out a bunch of potential damage. Typing doesn't matter, half of the Behemoth enemies are surge immune anyway and Ponos just doesn't like surge in general (They literally released an enemy that counter surge lol). Health is also irrelavant, Doron will die after attacking unlike Bahamut who can actually fight on the battlefield. And no units can match Bahamut in damage output, 2 or 3 well time hits are already enough to outdamage Doron anyway. Lastly, fix your spelling lol.
Dogu’s damage output vs behemoth is 1/2 of bahamut’s. Behemoths are cool but bahamut is one of the or the single best suicide bomber in the game and js unlockable for almost his full power in earlygame, and that’s more valuable then dogu will EVER be.
“Zero legends full of behemoths” so uuuh there are 7 behemoth enemy appearances across the 12 ZL stages and 82 total enemy appearances. Or, ~8.5% of all enemies in ZL are behemoths. Which is actually just about the average you would expect if there was an even mix of all traits. Even if we include meta filibuster, which adds 6 total enemies and 5 behemoths, we still only get an average of 13.6% behemoths. Not exactly chock full of behemoths if you ask me.
Mina is so good in SOL 4… She is the only option for a long time Unless you are insane enough to go naala before getting all sol done. Still, mina has more range than naala Remember kids, 4 star is DISUGUSTING
Legend Units are seperate from Legend Rares. The term comes from the Legends stages because that is where you get most of them. The term predates Legend Rares.
Yeah i actually thought he was talking about luza in the beginning because let's be honest, no one uses bahamut unironically over awakened bahamut Still better than filibuster
@@Only4two100bucks :metalpipefallingsoundeffect: You think the like 4 behemoth stages in zl are more valuable then idi’s usage across all of ul, including the actual meta which is starred ul, AND her usage as a near bahamut level general suicide bomber? Nah.
@@tacotown4598 Given the fact that Ponos have been consistently dishing out Behemoth after Behemoth content since 11.5 , it's fair to say that Naala is pretty relavant in the meta. Idi is a strong anti relic but with the UL TF, Relic isn't as threatening as it used to be, even on starred UL.
