Ranking Soulsborne Dragons (Tier List) 

Souls-Mojo streams? Buddy you’re breaking the rules.

When was this stream?

Good take on removing E tier it sucks.

​@@m.douglas8492 yeah it's an F teir teir

@@bighairboi4205 F and D are the only bad tiers you need, and on top of that it makes C tier a cop-out because you can put something there to be completely in the middle, whereas without E tier the middle is either B or C so you at least have to have some sort of take.

Idk, EVERY dragon boss from souls can't be rly called masterfully done just coz of camera issues. Well, except Kalamith, maybe, bcz he s small comparably.

@@RaiseYourFlag Midir does not have camera issues, lmao?

Please. I love midir, But He has camera issues

@@martinfranchini7488 He doesn't lmao

​@@martinfranchini7488 if you fight his legs instead of the boss, you might get some. If you fight him head on like it's intended, there are no camera issues

agreed. especially that second phase

fortissax?

@MinecraftLapsedd DS2's boss roster is really carried hard by its DLC. But its best points definitely surpass DS1 imo (just not DS3.)

@MinecraftLapsedd Yeah DS2's OST is pretty solid all around even in base game. I like that it kept the trend of Fromsoft never neglecting OSTs for even weak/early game bosses... until ER that is lol

yup

this was a fight ranking, not a lore ranking you doofus

s+ in lore, but the fight exept esteticly is just him shooting lasers that mostly miss if you stay up close

@@gipsyking5683 Pre-nerfed Seath was a bit more dangerous, as his Curse build-up was brought down after numerous complaints. There used to be recommendations for players to wear the Paladin or Firekeeper Sets, just for their high Curse resistance.

lore wise S but gameplay wise a D for me. a trend thats coming back a lot in DS1

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Its a slog to go through in subsequent playthroughs i never fight him in reflections

@@antx_soulsborne_meat_rider it ends really quickly

imo worst fight in sekiro extremely tedious and carried by how cinematic it is

In terms of an actual fight it’s actually pretty lame

@@6amage The fight doesn't last quite long enough to be tedious. Besides, Demon of Hatred exists and people actually put other Sekiro bosses as the worst in that game? He barely even supports the mechanics.

That's too much work for one, and kinda a slog. Getting a bleed weapon and smacking her for a few minutes is the way to go. It's hardly a fight...

@@celiafrostborn How is it a slog you have a horse...

A dragon who's head at the ground for the entire fight so you can hit it is the opposite of perfected design

@@Syllights imo its a better solution than whacking at a dragons ankles

@@jorjorden7669 You can get heavy jump attacks on the head but not too often, only as counters. Seems reasonable to me.

Kalameet is so underappreciated dude. I honestly think his moveset is better than most of the Elden Ring field bosses. I would put him at number 2 next to Midir and above Placidusax personally, Placidusax is more of a spectacle fight but the moveset isn’t nearly as fun imo. He stood head and shoulders above every boss in Dark Souls base game, and I felt that’s when From really started coming into their own with boss design. He still holds up to this day as a great boss, especially considering it’s a DS1 boss makes it even more impressive. and yeah cutting the tail is super difficult and made it such an intense and memorable battle for me

completely agree

Thank you so much :) glad u can share my obsession hahahaha

Try Rusty. Not necessarily better because I don’t like comparing content creators like that but he is definitely cool as well and does ranking lists so u should check him out

youtube.com/@Rusty_tsf

They are a bit of a downgrade, they are so robotic. Except Placidusax, he's the best, better than Midir.

Except there is a big difference. Midir's head is at ground level after every combo, while elden ring dragons are allergic to the ground.

@@botondkunos1774I was so dissapointed by that fight. Literally found myself fighting him with a blank face, no emotion, no excitement. He just missed me with like half of his attacks even when I didn’t dodge. Sure he looks cool and has cool special effects but mechanically just not good at all. Soundtrack worse than midir, mechanically worse than midir, easier than midir he’s just bad tbh. You’re just a weird young new gen Melvin who cares about visuals way too much. I feel sorry for you

What does this even mean. You can’t really fight their heads the same way midirs is done. The dragons in Elden ring suck

@@Diablopray Can't agree more. Anyone ranking Fortissax or Placidusax highly must value aesthetics way more than gameplay. They are really cool, but suck to fight.

Placidusax is by far one of the coolest dragons, but also has one of the worst gameplay of the dragon fights.

@@alexknott7111 explain how it’s worst

@@user-hs6tz9rh3z Let’s see. First off, there’s the fire breath. To dodge it, you either run away, or run to the tail. You barely even have time to react to it most of the time, so you’re almost forced to sit at the tail. It’s not like there’s any significant moves that occur when you’re at the tail, only the tail swipe. Thus, you miss out on the half of his moveset that is interactive due to the fire breath, and just sit back at the tail doing nothing. The nuke is cool, but you just run away. The lightning claws are cool, but you can’t consistently punish them due to AOE after-explosions. Therefore you just wait there instead of trying to attack. The lasers are also very cool, but poorly designed. Dodging them is cool and all, but then you factor in the fact that you get nothing for trying to dodge them. There’s no punish window like there is with midir; you can take the risk of dodging them for no reward, or just run away as they’re not targeted at you like midir’s are. The way you actually punish it is by baiting him to fly down to the edge of the arena, and sitting behind him for the lasers. The whole fight is either you running away, or you sitting behind him and punishing for 10 seconds just to dodge a single time or run away more. The fight has literally everything going for it, other than the most important part which is gameplay. Imo, the gameplay is almost as bad as gargoyle duo tbh, but definitely much less obnoxious.

@@alexknott7111 are you on drugs ? I can say just like you about midir lol , I can keep running away with midir too

⁠@@user-hs6tz9rh3z What are you on about? You can run away from midir all you want, but there’s no point to it. With placidusax, running is the way you dodge things/avoid most things. With midir, rolling is the way you avoid most things. The difference is that with midir you have a choice. Running directly at placidusax will get you hit so many times, but running at midir is the way you’re supposed to fight him. If that’s not a clear indicator of which has better gameplay, idk what to say.

Lol placidusax is so boring and bad mechanically. Sure he has a few cool attacks and visuals but he just kinda misses you most of the time even when you’re not dodging. I was so let down and bored fighting him. Easier than midir, worse soundtrack, way worse mechanically, worse lore. Only good part was the visuals you new age bastard

@@Diablopray ost - depends on taste, am not fan of midir ost, it is just good. Worse lore - definetly not, while Midir has good lore, Placi has so much more to him. Easier - midir isn't even that hard, he is tedious to fight. Even fighting his head you deal little damage. fight takes forever and is really repetetive - you dont even think on his attacks, dodge on reflexes and hit after every attack

​@@danylonazarov Bro the last part is the literal definition of Placi

@@andreamicheli2575 well, idk, for me it was definition of Midir. Like, i like him overall, but mechanically - Gael, demon prince, hell - even Halflight were more fun for me

@@danylonazarov Oh god please no, you were going so well but saying that Halflight is fun invalidates everything you said.

Elden ring dragons r really mid; Placidusax is cool and all but he has some annoying attacks, fortisax is overrated, rest of dragons r copy and paste. Play ds3 and fight midir, best dragon

@@creepergaming3445 nah fortissax is properly rated, everyone agrees that the boss fight is carried by the ost, boss arena and the spectacle

Why grade it that way if nobody does it?

Covetous demon is winning in a landslide

i can see where you're coming from but Ebrietas feels more like a Kraken type than dragon

I have always considered ebrietas the bloodborne equivalent of a dragon as well. I would put her in A, maybe a low S.

Just started!!

if they gave him 5x health and took away the static lightning bull shit he would be on midirs level

@@giantdad2414 Many bosses deserves that 5x health buff

Actual Dragon God And its cinematic asf

I feel this way about MIDir

he looks cool af, good bossfight, 2 laserbeams, big nuke

Oh I love that idea

Fortisax is so overrated he’s basically just a normal dragon but with cool ost. Midir is better than Placidusax

@@creepergaming3445 fortissax's fight shouldve been like midir

Yo thank you so much 😭😭

Meh. Phase 1 = does nothing, really. Phase 2 = better, but mostly flying around and teleporting. Midir is better.

@@Al-ji4gd Dude he summons lightning and a whole nuke in phase 1 and phase 2 is just awesome with the teleporting and lasers.

@@darrylunlistedbard9527 I never said he isn't cool. Just that there isn't much to the fight mechanically, and the constant flying/teleporting can get annoying.

No you’re just a new age Melvin that sees shiny things and thinks it’s cool. The mechanics of the fight are terrible he just has cool visuals and some cool attacks. Terrible flow to the fight, he just misses you most of the time or does nothing. Easy boring and honestly pathetic boss fight.

@@Al-ji4gdyeah it’s terrible mechanically just a bunch of new kids playing Elden ring that like shiny things. “Hey it looks cool it’s the best” ahahaha these kids, like Elden ring have no soul.

great takes across the board, great video👍

Top weapons... top armor sets...

100%. He’s a pissed off dragon that brings the fight to you and is great mechanically. Plasidusax barely does anything and misses you half the time he attempts something. Just has cool visuals that’s it

yes hes the best dragon boss in a video game no bullshit just straight skill you can no hit him after enough practice pretty easily hes fair

Fixing it for the future, thanks tho!!

If i may? I think the main problem with Midir is that you can just roll spam away from him and none of his combos can chase you fast enough. That way you don't have to time any dodge, and after he is done attacking, you can just run to his face and hit him with R1s. Now just repeat the process for 7 to 10 min. The fight goes on for too long as well imo (even on a casual run), Midir's moveset is not complex or varied enough to justify such a large health pool, so it ends up feeling very repetitive as he cycles through the same moves over and over again. Lastly, making the head the only viable target can make the fight feel more personal, but it can also make Midir feel less like a whole giant creature and more like a floating disembodied head (since you can just ignore everything else). Placidusax is one of the most visually impressive fights in the series for sure, and feels more dinamic, since his moveset is always evolving as you go through all of his 3 phases, but i wish the fight incentivized the player to be more mobile, instead of sticking to his back legs and tail, as well as giving some way to occasionally target the heads with melee weapons, outside of crits after a posture break. Personally i think Fortissax is the best dragon in the series since he addresses all of the concerns i mentioned in this comment. Head, arms, legs and tail are all viable and available at different points throughout the fight (depending on what moves he is doing) rewarding good positioning and movement. And the ticking timebomb lightning gives all of your attacks a lot of urgency while punishing both tunnel vision and camping a specific limb.

​@corporialme indeed you may and for good reason, that was well articulated and your right midirs moveset could be a little bigger . He has a total of 12 moves which is about average for games after bloodborne and on. Those moves can come in varying orders but he does seem to prefer a few specific moves to spam . I like how the fire breath with midir can actually be rolled through though . In elden ring fire breath became almost unrollable so that is kind of just a nitpick with game design because they intended you to run instead of roll. I would agree placidusax has a Greta moveset and fantastic visuals but yes hitting his a-hole the whole fight made it feel a bit lacking at times. Fortisax is great but I wish his lightning worked like placidusax instead of homing the player character .

Plasidusax sucks mechanically he just has cool visuals. One of the most boring fights in Fromsoft history

@@Diablopray I disagree, while I agree the spectacle is the main selling point I still think he is better fight than midir. Midir moves his head around so much and u can’t lock on to his legs, I feel like I’m fighting a faramazula dragon with a good ost

@@jackmckeen6183 you’re not supposed to fight his legs you imbecile. You hit his head. That’s why it’s a good fight mechanically. Unlike the other dragons where you’re swinging at legs and wings, where they just miss you with attacks. You fight midir head on and actually have to dodge well. I feel sorry for you

​@@jackmckeen6183 Midir holds his head still after pretty much every attack though, he has a lot of openings

​@@jackmckeen6183 "you can't lock on to midir's legs" Dude midir was not designed to be attacked From the legs heck the fight straight up punishs you if try to attack the legs

fortissax looks too cool to be lower than A, he's ost and lore carry the whole fight to A