Ranking the Water Starters Weakest to Strongest 

I’m sorry Mystic, but no freaking way should Primarina be that low on this list. For one, Water/Fairy is a great defensive typing that can also hit really hard. It only has three weaknesses in Grass, Electric and Poison and the only one it has no coverage for is electric. Ice Beam takes care of Grass and Psychic easily takes cares of Poison. Sparkling Aria or Scald are great Water STAB moves and I don’t really need to say anything about Moonblast. And as you mentioned the unpredictability of its held item, of which Primarina can use quite a few, makes it really tricky to game plan for.

If we’re gonna be completely honest, the water starters, none of them actually suck. They’re usually the second best option if not the best option for each region. I normally use the water starters because they tend to be the most practical option throughout an endgame play through

Primarina should be much higher and Blastoise should be lower

The Samurott glow up is insane.

Swampert and Primarina are my definitive favorites! Great to use with amazing typings! Not to mention the OP designs!

Swampert is better than Greninja in terms of taking hits and solo running it’s home region.

How is Primarina that low? Or even "debatable" with Inteleon?

Primarina would definitely be higher than feraligatr or blastoise.

I know people may have mentioned it already, but Primarina does not deserve to be that low. Its Water/Fairy typing alone bumps it up quite a bit, and it's capable of being surprisingly flexible in terms of game plan. Assault Vest with coverage and Leftovers with Substitute/Calm Mind are two great examples right there. But hey, I am happy that Quaquaval and Hisuian Samurott are as high as they are.

I’m confused as to why Primarina is so low, because isn’t it the best water starter in competitive battle? It’s typing really helps it and it seems to be the only water starter that I can think of that I constantly see in competitive play.

Primarina being that low baffles me. With the right stats, moves and items it can be one of the strongest water types ever.

A lil sad primarina is so low on the list, I'd say what holds it back is it's speed stat, bcuz it does get access to reliable recovery in the form of life dew and if in DLC2 they give it access to psychic noise, I'd prob put it up there at like number 5 at the very least, me personally tbh. But like I said when it comes to water starters I understand why its low on the list.

1)Swampert 2)Greninja 3) H-Samurott The Rest is Debatable in either place you put them... P.S. Stop Bullying Quaquaval...He was "Born this way" and its an amazing PKMN!!!

Okay no, Primaria is far better than a number 8, what the heck dude? It should be 4 at least for being a water fairy type and how it is amazing for gen 7 and would be amazing in literally any other game, yes its slow but it still strong as hell!

competetively speaking primarina is even considered better than gatr empoleon and swampert no mega since its introduction And blastoise is pretty overrated it is probably the 3th weakest considering how mid it is excluding mega not even shell smash helped it to leave NU when primarina ended up top tier UU in Gen 8

Primarina is amazing. Assault vest, modest nature, max special stats and 4 attacking moves. Only thing im not a fan of is its hidden ability.

Primarina is a Dragon Slaying Mermaid 🧜‍♀️ That Sparkling Aria Move also helps you beat the game.. you must’ve put him this low cuz you dont like the design cuz this is a strong mon

*apologizes for bad take in the grass type video* *Immediately has another bad take for water types*

Primarina is the best starter. Change my mind

Just put Primarina and Feraligatr higher than Blastoise, the rest of the list is good

What.... Primarina is questionably higher than inteleon? I think primarina is hands down better than it even without gmax forms cause it has a better type combo, better spread of moves, and better stats (also semi saying my preference here) hell primarina may also end up working in tr which could potentialy uproot everything that's strong or weak

Ok now THIS tier list more respectable. I mean you could have put Primarnia a bit higher but other than that, a way more solid list.

First, I'm not so sure megas and G-max forms and such should be considered in these as not all have one, and they aren't usable in all the games. So, in Scarlet/Violet, once all the starters are available with this next expansion, those extra forms are non-existent. Second, just for Primarina! It should be much higher, if not in the top 3.

Swampert for me will always be #1. Also I feel like if Empoleon were introduced in gen 6 along with the Fairy typing. I think we'd be having a different conversation about it potentially. Considering it's dual typing in gen 4 are literally super effective against the same things 🤣

i would put primarina in 6 place instead of blastoise

Need that Let’s go starter video!!! 🔥🔥

Feraligatr shouldnt be this low... its def top 5

Intellion also got nerfed in s/v. It lost access to focus energy

Yeah, gonna echo what a lot of people are saying despite being a broken record at this rate- Primarina being this low is a crime.

Mystic has really been doing a quantity over quality method with his videos over the years

Primarina with a stronger dual type under Blastoise 🫠

Finally empoleon getting some love and not at the bottom of someone list of best water starters my favorite water starter up there with swampert and Blastoise

I'm sorry to say this, but Mystic this is your third strike out for these starter ranking videos, and honestly, all 3 of them are just flat wrong. For the fire starters, you put freaking charizard at no. 1? I know the dude got megas and Gmax, but if you're really trying to compare them in regards to their current status in gen 9, or just flat by themselves, the nepotism lizard is incredibly undeserving if it needs GF welfare gimmicks to make it relevant. Plus, your argument of Venusaur needing to hold an item compared to Meowscarada should have applied to that video, or any starters with megas for that matter. If that were the case, Cinderace would most likely have taken top spot for its sheer utility and power. Hell, it doesn't even need libero to prove useful in OU. For the grass starters, you ranked Meganium above both Decidueyes and Sceptile!? The only way I can ever even begin to believe anybody ranking the plant little foot potato over any other grass starter is freaking gen 2 bias and cope. I don't regard Decidueye being the most viable grass starter despite my bias, but you're trying to argue that a pokémon with actual mixed attacking stats, priority, hazard clear utility, immunities, and a personal trapping niche is worse than a pokémon who's meant to do a mediocre job at tanking, you lost all credibility in your reasoning right there. And finally, you put Primarina, the water starter with objectively the best type combo of any water starter in the game, and also the best special attack cannon of starters thus far towards the bottom? Speed isn't everything, and if you are ignoring the fact that Primarina can bulk out seemingly super effective hits, and also got buffed with nasty plot this gen, then I don't even know what to say. It's clear these videos are meant to be biased and opinionated, but I would've expected better reasonings and arguments as to why certain starters could be seen better or worse than how you explained them.

Bruh, G-Max Inteleon has the High Ground! Don’t disrespect it!

Honestly Primarina and Inteleon wayy too low. Inteleon I kind of get since it shouldn't have been monotype, but that thing still rules. Primarina though is easily the most powerful Alola starter. By like.. A lot

I'm calling it, Swampert is number 1 Edit: HOW THE ACTUAL F*** IS SWAMPERT NUMBER 3 (although I love Greninja more)

nooo! samurott is my favorite starter! (at least Hisuian Samurott did really well!)

I would say 1 - Greninja 2 - Swampert 3 - H Samurott 4 - Empoleon 5 - Primarina 6 - Blastoise 7 - Quaquaval 8 - Feraligatr 9 - Inteleon 10 - Samurott

Primarina being so low is baffling. Its been UU since its inception and actually became an OU mainstay this gen.

Primarina with fantastic typing and Quaquaval with free dragon dance on kos should be higher on this list imo

Glad my boi Greninja made the number one spot, but seriously, primarina should be top 5 at least She got put too low

Gator and primarina should be higher. Grinja should be lower since the nerf of protean and lost of bonds.

And now Primarina is the starter that has the 2nd highest usage rate in OU lmao. Atleast top 3 on this list

@MysticUmbreon, would you do a video on what you would do to to improve starters? Such as adding a secondary type to mono types (Excluding regional forms) and changing Stats, Movesets Abilities, Hell even Mega Evolutions! Would love to see your take!

I actually like to believe that none of the water starters are honestly bad, but are instead just at times (depending on the generation) outclassed by other water type options.

Might as well put Meganium at the top of this list as well since it’s just as devoid of reasoning as the grass list.

I don't see how Predictability could be an issue. The enemy ai in Pokemon has never been that advanced.

It's such a shame Ash-Greninja no longer exists. Please bring it back in X and Y remakes Game Freak please? Or at least do Mega Greninja and base its design of Ash-Greninja

hisuian samurot is not that good imo, would put it below empoleon and swampert

Primarina being that low is criminal.

I’m sorry but their isn’t anyway primarina is that low, it’s easily better then blastoise and empoleon. Feraligatr should also be higher, and ide argue it’s a little better then gyarados and quaquaval.

12:20 still to this day I have yet to understand gamefreak's decision of allowing Swarmpert to have the highest stats (535) amongst the starters, especially the starters from Gen 3.

Empoleon cot a Competitive boost in the 9th generation... by getting Competitive as it's HA instead of Defiant! Now you can Switch into an Intimidate foe, and get a boost to its stronger attacking stat!

Gutted that Blastoise and Feraligatr didn’t make the top 5

I like H Samurott, it’s design has grown on me quite a bit

bro make next video about Top 10 Pokemon that deserve an evolution in the next generation. Pinsir, Heracross, Drampa, Cacturne, Hypno, Golduck, Grafaiai, Muk, Weavile, Sandaconda, Scovillain, Breloom, Absol, Audino, Banette, Sunflora, Carnivine, Zangoose/Seviper, Kangaskhan and many more are just a few who could benefit from an evolution.

I can see the reasonings for the placements. I’m curious @Mysticumbreon, have you played comp with these Pokémon? I had a lot of success with Inteleon in Gen 8 as a fast sweeper and it was soloing singles (for me ) in the official format. But as stated I can see the reasoning

You know that the water type starters are pretty solid when regular Samurott is the worst one. It’s just terrible and can be used quite well albeit with difficulty so yeah

Hey Mystic I know you're a busy man, but are we going to get a best team for US/UM No restrictions?

My personal ranking: 1. Swampert - my personal favorite; best starter to use in playthroughs; great defenses, resistance and immunity; balance in offense and defense. Though a huge drawback in speed since its better ability was locked behind mega. I hope they just put Swift Swim as its hidden ability rather than Damp. 1. Greninja - yeah it is arguably better due to its speed and coverage of moves. 3. Hisuan Samurott - a well deserved powerhouse. 4. Primarina - fairy types are strong and arguably broken. Being fairy type alone made it better than the other 6. 5. Empeleon - great typing. Balance of opponse and defense. Too bad that stupid monkey needed to ruin gen 4. 6. Blastoise - being from gen 1, it got too many benefits from version to version (all thanks to Charizard I guess). But again, its best playstyle depends on Mega. 7. Quaquaval - the other two starters are better than it but it still get the work done. 8. Feraligatr - Gyarados exists 9. Samurott 10. Intelleon - atleast Samurott is better to look at.

Wish they'd give the mega abilities to the base pokemon like blazeakin if we aren't ever getting the megas again. All the starters could benefit from this

Aye man, way to own it...youtubers refuse to admit their wrong alot...I can respect you more for that yo

The water starters are so busted. Fire it can be a given either way Grass........they are green

❤it when you mentioned Nidoking in the Feraligatr segment Mystic, the former being my favorite from Gen 1 and the latter being my favorite final evolution of a starter Pokémon I chose out of the Gen 2 trio.

My list is #10 Samourat : sorry cool but not good #9 inteleon : use less ability in my opinion #8 feraligater : one word d dance #7 blastoise: only uses shell smash #6 empoleon: good defensive type #5 swampert: good defensive type but lacks in speed #4 greninja: I’m sorry if some of you don’t like me now but the nerf was huge #3 primirina: if it was quicker it would be unstopable #2 quaquaval: if used correctly It’s broken #1 Hisiun samourat: do I really have to say anything

Facts greninja is my favorite and best water type starter

I really like Primarinas typing, especially for in game. But I think my favorite overall is Empoleon

Did you just pronounce Ceaseless as Seashells Edge? It's SEES-LES. It's an actual English word. Just btw.

Can you please make a Pokémon xenovers best team there’s not a single one on RU-vid please make one

Why you think sobble and poplio are weak if you care about them they will be good and also the starters will be for the legends in generation 5 starters are treekio fanaken and Squirtle they where Easter eggs for the next legends game next year. And please watch blueberry Academy trailer

weakness policy primarina could solo this whole list - energy ball, dazzling gleam, blizzard, and hydro pump… primarina was done dirty in this video

I’m glad to see despite some big ass nerfs, Greninja is still part of the higher tiers.

Oh I still think it's Greninja my boi. TEAM GRENINJA FOR LIFE

I think I was the 1000th like (without even listening to the stip….)…..sorry Mystic?

Primarina as number 8?? This list type garbage, ngl

I think Greninja is the strongest Water starter even without AshGreninja or predebuff Protein.

Dude Mystic you are wrong just plain and simple. Snivy is the worst starter

Primarina, an OU staple, barely above Inteleon (PU garbage bin)? 🤡

Imagine h-Samurott had its sp atk swaped with sp. Def..

All yall can go enjoy your other starters, Meganium is best dinosaur

Feraligator now compared to its debut is much better. If we had all that we have now for gen II, this is my personal opinion for Feraligator: Strongjaw as the ability, since it can learn Crunch and Ice Fang. One could also give it a mega that is Water/Dark or Water/Dragon.

I’m sorry call me crazy but I love Feraligatr so that’s my #1 spot lol

Swampert is #1

If you dont have swampert as the top youre just weird lol

Bruh how many times you gonna remake the same videos

Your opinions clearly are biased and stink

How does Eq not effect toxapex and tentacruel

Swampert is the strongest starter pokemon period

How to fix normal Samurott? Give him Shell Smash and Flip Turn. The Hisuian form is nice but it noves he really should've gotten.

Medicority of Blastoise will always be sad

This take on Primarina is worse than your last one but it’s your opinion.

Blastoise will always be a favorite cause of its abundance of coverage and his defenses aren't too bad

Da hell is uu and ou ?

inteleon should be ranked higher

Feraligatr will always be my boy.

Best Water starters for gen 9: Swampert, Primarina, H. Samurott, Blastoise, Empoleon, Greninja, Quaquaval, Feraligatr, Intelleon, Samurott.

Ah yes Hisuian Samurott's Cealess Edge and Kleavor's Stone Axe combo. No Pokemon is coming in battle with HP more than half.

Other than speed, I think you misjudged my favorite Idol Pokémon. Also, honestly curious about your opinions on Pikachu and Eevee from Let’s Go.

Water starter idea: Astronaut Tardigrade Type: water/bug (has type combination throughout all evolutions) Other Sci-Fi theme starters are: Moss cyborg Japanese chin dog Grass/steel as final evolution And Laser red panda Fire/psychic as final evolution

What did they do Samurott?