Ranking the Elite Four Members Weakest to Strongest 

Let's be fair to Drasna. She doesn't have Goodra because Diantha has it. She doesn't have Tyrantrum because Diantha has it.

16:51 “and even a good WinCon in Conkeldur” So important that he had to say it twice

We all said Larry was the one who gave us most trouble in the interview, just want to give this mans his promotion

When he started with Malva, my only thought was "Wow, her team actually has full move sets?"

Bdsp might not be as amazing as expected but it literally made justice to every gym leader and elite four member in sinnoh

Aaron’s BDSP team is just ridiculous. That team is almost perfectly balanced. Fire, Flying and Rock types can easily be countered by Flygon and Drapion is bulky enough and hits hard enough to be a solid ace.

i love e4 members who use types different from their main one, just feels more realistic that they’d specialise in their type but also use other ones for coverage and to use their fave mons

It's fair to go with the more modern teams for the older generations. Really hurts that a lot of E4 members don't have a full team plus one type usually leads to easy countering. Those Gen 6 and 7 teams were very bad considering all the Pokemon & move options

16:53 I think he had a good wincon with Conkeldurr

I never understood why trainers were designed to not have 4 moves filled out. This goes double for the elite 4.

i know rika’s team isn’t the best but i still love it because it feels like she’s built her team using pokemon she loves rather than the strongest ones. i feel the same way about wallace’s champion team (which i suspect will be pretty low on the list if you do a champion ranking). i headcanon that he wanted his luvdisc on his champion team as well but wasn’t allowed to because luvdisc is complete dogshit

I wish Kalos could be given justice. The entire Pokemon league felt so unfinished compared to the anime that aired alongside it.

Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. Greetings from Czech Republic.

Intriguing Ranking!! The idea of Elite 4 and Champions is seen as the most powerful in there respective region. But you looked deeper and made a in-depth ranking to see which Elite 4 member is truly the strongest.

15:37 Karen's Spiritomb is the bane of my existence. In my roughly 100 post-game HGSS rematches, that movepool almost always drives me nuts.

This was the kind of video i was looking for. Please do more ranking videos on gym leaders and elite 4

I recently replayed Heartgold and Koga's rematch was nuts. His venomoth got up two double teams, then baton passed into Swalot. It then proceeded to not get hit, heal up when it did with black sludge and pain split, and poison most of my team. It was very unexpected and was surprisingly strong.

Keep up the awesome work and videos love the video

I like the tournament that you can freely replay in SV. But I'm so confused why you can't challenge the E4 again as well. Or that they are also omitted from the tournament outside of Geeta.

I've been playing since red and blue, and I've never had more trouble than I did with the BDSP elite 4, not to mention Cynthia as the champion.

I might’ve put Koga higher than Bruno - though his strategy is based on hax, I think his mons have better bulk, while Bruno can get swept by a fast mon with high SpAtk. Still enjoyed your list - thanks for sharing, Mystic!

The fact that BDSP gave competitive sets and abilites to the Elite 4 makes them the best by comparison as aside from BW2's challenge mode, which they at least gave items to their Pokémon. The fact that some don't even have 4 moves or a team of 6 sucked.

Another reason the kalos elite four is terrible is not only because they have four pokemon they also lack the megas they have in the anime all except drasna’s altaria were megas that existed in x and y

One thing I'd really like to see that I don't think anyone has done I ranking them based, not just on their in-game team using in-game logic, but whatever lore they may have and taking aspects from the manga and anime to fill them out. For example: Drasna is the third lowest ranked E4 member on this list, but the anime has her being in the top 12 trainers worldwide (including champions) (at least trainers that participated in the WCS, ex - Wallace didn't participate). Her being top 12 means that she falls just outside the Champion power-level Other Interesting Thing if we rank them like this: In the manga Flint & Volkner are relatively equal in terms of skill and ability (which greatly boosts Volkner if we decide to throw in Flint anime feats). Wallave & Steven are also at the same level in the manga.

Next generation there should be elite four consisting of: 1. Grass type boy with green poncho 2. Rock type black boy 3. Fairy type girl with blond hair and pink dress 4. Electric type boy with black spiky hair and electric style clothes

I’ve been waiting for this

You forgot you can fight Hassel in the Ace Academy Tournament, where he adds a Dragonite.

i have not seen your channel in literal years im in shock

Kalos really had every dragon pseudo to that point and Drasna used 0 of them lol

This was a fun video 👍🏾

i love this ranking. do you have a video where you rank all the champions?

To be fair I don’t think most of these trainers didn’t face the player at full power. Kalos is the shining example of this!!

Black 2/White 2 and especially BDSP snagged all the wins as expected. In challenge mode rematch, I used: a Crobat (carried hard against Marshall and did great against Iris and Grimsley. Forms amazing synergy with the two dark types in my team.) Tyranitar with DDance (soloed Shauntal, and trivialised Caitlin. The main reason for bringing Ttar was to set sand and break Haxorus' focus sash which makes facing it so deadly) Shiny Basculin (definitely did the least, but it atleast had Adaptability and Adamant nature with choice band, so that's still decent, and its shiny at the end) Aerodactyl (just another flying type against Marshall, and good synergy with Tyranitar's sand stream and fly) Hydreigon (MVP against Iris thanks to choice scarf) Volcarona (ultimate sweeper, and the best mon against Grimsley) Had a smooth sail until Iris, where I was playing a bit slack and ended up losing 4 Pokemon, with only Crobat and Hydreigon still not fainted. I have never played BDSP, but looking at the teams, BDSP definitely has the hardest Elite 4 ever.

Looking foward to seeing how the Blueberry E4 would fit in here. From what I've heard, they don't mess around. Amarys's team is in the level 80s, and it'd be safe to assume the same for the others.

Bruno should absolutely be lower, the lack of variation in his defensive typings makes him an easy sweep

Spoiler: The Blueberry academy Elite four are without a doubt the strongest elite four in the entire series now even with a level 100, perfect IV, properly EV trained team they can still knock out a couple of you're Pokemon or even win if you take them lightly or make a mistake.

How if instead of individual members, we rank the whole elite four as a group from weakest (x and y) to strongest (bdsp) 🤔

I wonder how much this changes with Paldea's Elite 4 getting actual rematch teams + the new Blueberry Elite 4 being a thing now too.

Didn’t realize watching this video it would trigger a core memory, Lucian is an actual monster of a trainer, I remember as a kid I even used cheat codes from an action replay and still almost lost to him dude was a menace and that alakazam is Satan

I really wish Ash Actually got to fight Flint and Lucien before going to masters 8 tournament in journeys anime

Good video

7:56 i would be interested to see how you would rank the Paldean E4 with their new Indigo Disk Teams. Just new Pokémon and maybe full 6 mons(i don’t remember if they do😅)

I’ll be waiting for the Champions next time!

Can you remake this with BB elite 4?

Ive had the thought recently that id like harder Pokemon fights but i would obviously do things to balance it. I think the elete 4 should just be good trainers, they can have themes for individuality but its not something like monotype. Make each elite 4 a tough encounter, but you get healed at the end of each one like an actual competitive tournament. Ive started to get into the competitive scene, not that ill likely ever play but its fun to watch, and i think that the games could be more tied to its competitive side without excluding the casual player. I'VE BEEN PLAYING POKEMON SINCE I WAS 4, and i didn't learn about stats, abilities, and items and i still never used them because of how easy the monotype trainers are. What if every gym was about teaching you how to play competitive/the game or just has a fun theme. The first 3 gyms can be fire, water, and grass to teach how the types work. Then we could have a weather team, friendship team, baby pokemon, abilities, items, terrains, physical/special (ie reflect etc...), terrain hazards, conditions, and so many more. Yeah it'd be hard to recreate this every game, but we've also had the same 8 gyms for 3 decades now, id rather fight a condition team every game then a rock type team. By the time you've gotten to the elite 4 you know all the mechanics so you can take on a team that doesnt rely on one, each is a test of what you've learned accumulating in a battle against the champion.

Will’s Jynx having dream eater is strange to me without a single hypnosis user, must’ve been a nasty surprise to the one person using rest in singleplayer

Malva's Talonflame has FLAIL. ELITE FOUR MEMBER HAS A POKEMON WITH FLAIL

I haven’t struggled with an Elite 4 since Unova. I one shot all the Pokémon in Paldea E4. Come to think of it. The fairy trainer in the Blueberry E4 gave me a run for my money.

i think you should redo this video once the BB leauge get's released in pokemon SV wich will it's own set of elite four

Should do the champions ranking next

I loved the BDSP rematches with gym leaders and pokemon league. Cynthia can take out a team of 6 level 100's with her team thats how good it is

Man.... should have waited until the last dlc came out sonce it was already known that we faced against another set of e4.

Yo, that is Lycanroc Midnight that Olivia have on her Arsenal

And even a good win con with Conkelder

Geeta needs to be on this list as she is an Elite 5 member

While they're far from the strongest, I did like how the Paldean E4 interacted with one another.

I feel like this list needs an update due to Indigo Disk providing rematches for the Paldean Elite Four as well as BB Academy’s own Elite Four.

An elite 4 based around Snow, Sun, Rain and Sand would be awesome.

And even a win con with conkelder and even a win con with conkelder😂😂😂

they need to bring back challenge mode in pokemon games

If I were an Elite 4 member I’d be a grass type one with my ace being Sceptile

What’s the website for the Pokémon party?

Main takeaway from this is the Gen 5 teams has aged very well as Gen 4 and 5 dominated the top 10. And Gen 5 havent even had an update like the Gen 4 E4 had. Imagine if the Unovans got a BDSP level upgrade like the Shinnohans did?

the sinnoh remakes and b2w2 challenge mode took those two elite fours and shoved them right to the top of the difficulty curve

Look, I’m well aware of Aegislash’s reputation as being one of the most terrifying competitive Pokémon of all time… but do you really think a fucker named Wikstrom knows how to use one? Even with the moveset it has? I think that Siebold having a more competently well rounded team in comparison gives him the right to swap places with Wikstrom.

The Kalos Elite Four got shafted, but I don't think they should be nearly as low as they are. Bruno has terrible coverage, Hala has only two moves on a lot of his Pokemon, Rika is just a plain letdown, Koga is extremely weak and Glacia just has the worst coverage ever. I have every confidence that the Kalos E4 can beat any of them even with only four Pokemon. Also, this list just ignores the fact that rematch teams make it unfair to the members without rematch teams. The initial battle teams should have been all that was considered for a fair comparison.

ILCA needs to come back and make a Battle Revolution game for the switch and make the teams for the npc’s. It would be so cool seeing what every trainer from across the series is truly capable of with the every pokemon at their disposal

The sad part about the Kalos league is they are my top 4 favorite types

You should do a Frontier Brains ranking

16:53 thought I was having a stroke.

And even a good win con in conkeldur :)

now that we have the Blueberry Academy I wonder in what order and how high the Blueberry E4 would rank

Also, you should count the BB Elite 4. They are Elite 4 AND they are terrifyingly strong.

5:47 Considering Grusha's team, I doubt it He has an Snow Cloak Beartic, like dude WTF, can you even call yourself an Ice specialist?

I feel like if you added the Blueberry Academy elite four, they just take spots 1-4

Gonna have to update this now. you can rematch the Paldea elite four now.

Damn Sinnoh and Unova really have the best elite fours

Am i the only one who thinks pokemon dropped the ball with rika? I mean she couldve used either great tusk/iron treads depending on the version instead of tge dugtrio.

Confused as to why he was saying Paldea E4 didn't have rematch teams when they do, and then realizing this video probably came out before the Indigo Disc

BDSP Lucian holds the honor of being the only elite four member to beat me in the last like fifteen years. That Mr. Mime gaining fairy type fucked me all the way up that first time lol

Bro Rika, Rika was painfully easy. My gift Mew ran Ice Beam, and while her Clodsire and Donphan required extra work to be put in, once that chick poisoned me and Synchronize got her back, it was over. Even if it survived the Ice Beam, Toxic did the rest of the work for me. Probably because their AI terrastlizes first chance they get and not "the best time to do so"

I would put Drake lower as a Starmie with Ice Beam and Never-Melt Ice or a Metronome can flatten 5/6ths of his team rather easily.

I knew before I even watched it that Lucian would be number 1. He always gives me trouble, and not even just in BDSP.

Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum were my first Pokemon games when I started playing so I have a very heavy favoritism towards the game and characters. The E4 back then was already great in my opinion based on my mediocre game knowledge. 15 years of Pokemon later and the horror I felt when I challenged the revamped E4 in BDSP was intense. BDSP may not have been the type of remake I wanted for Generation 4, but it made up for it by really going hard with the E4 and Cynthia.

And even a good wincon with Conkeldurr

let's pray that the XY remake give their E4 a complete team... I hope they do it... really

I miss the Megas so much 😪. I wanted more…

My moxie krookadile laughed at Caitlin

13:29 i don't think you can have a Crobat in the Let's Go Games. Wasn't Golbat introduced in gen 3, and not Gen 1?

Well I don't know every elite 4 member but few of them have the team I would pick if gym leader or just regular trainer.

Tbh Flint's first team in bdsp was way more challenging than his rematch team. I had no issues with his second. While his first i was at least 10 levels higher and thought it was annoying to take down. Imo i would say his first team would be #3 on the list while his rematch team far below the top 10

BDSP for the win!

Next time just wait with this video after the New game / new dlc comes out because in the indigo disk dlc we get a new elite four and from the previews it's going to be the strongest ever

I’ll admit drasna siebold and Diantha all gave me a hard time on my first try but then I just used mega blastoise with ice beam

I think you mixed up the Lycanroc forms

Must not have the BB academy E4 on here because the only difficult battle out of all E4 and Champions is Lacey

You did this video a few weeks too early. Soon we will have the BB league, and looks like it will be really hard.

I think the Kalos E4 suffer from having no updated teams from rematches or a third version. They could even have Megas like the Hoenn E4. Malva could have Mega Houndoom and...I dunno, Flareon? (Kalos doesn't have a lot of good Fire types); Drasna could have Mega Garchomp and Hydreigon; Siebold could have Mega Blastoise and Kingdra; and Wikstrom could Mega his Scizor and add Escavalier and Lucario. The lack of an official Pokemon Z hurts more every year

Funny enough Malva gave me a heart attack. I was 8 or 9 though lol, my team was Chestnaught, Gogoat, Simisage, Lucario, Charizard and Talonflame. So 4 weak to fire and the other 2 were just fire. Would’ve had Venasaur too but 8 year old me was smart enough not to have 4 grass types.

Honestly Agatha held back and probably always is