Rare Confederate Film: Nathan Bedford Forrest's Troops (The Civil War Diaries S4E13) 

Sherman wanted him dead and declared him the best general on either side. Asked who his best general was general Lee replied the general I never met, Nathan Bedford Forrest.

He was an insurrectionist loser..a traitor

Good for you

Funny thing after reading your comment, I instantly thought but how good? because both Forrest and Rommel lost.

@@Chris-Rife The confederate fans regularly forget that they were losers, and insurrectionists, and traitors to the USA, and supporters of slavery....

would have been a help at Gettysburg

@@wccroft50 pity Konfederates did not have full germen parahenellia via w.w.2 in 1860- 1866 Mixed Total War.''

It was actually hilarious. The most bizarre thing I've seen in a while lol

Exactly right.

I often wonder why I never see in Germany any statues of Hitler, Himmler, Rommel, Rundstedt, Manstein or Kesselring, not to mention Sepp Dietrich. Apart from Hitler and Himmler, they were all brave battlefield generals. Could it be that the Germans, even though they may have admired their courage, wisely decided not to commemorate the cause they stood for? Same for the south. I am a northerner and a Civil War student. I have pictures of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson adorning my shelves of books on the war, along with some of Union generals as well. Lee especially represents qualities of honor lost among most Americans today. Nathan Bedford Forrest, on the other hand, went on to found the Ku Klux Klan after the war.

@@stevepierce6467 Actually, Forrest didn't found the Klan and was not initially even a member. He was nominated later by others to be it's titular head because of his name and reputation from the war. The Klan originally, a social club, quickly evolved into a vigilante organization as a result of the abuses by Radical Republicans who came to power following the assassination of Lincoln; true South haters who sought to plunder and destroy the the South politically, culturally, and economically after the war and to exploit and use the black vote to that end. (Forrest actually ordered the dissolution of certain rogue Klan organizations that had become too violent). In the sheriff's office of the rural North Carolina county where I live is a plaque listing officers killed in the line of duty. The first name on the list was a Northern Radical Republican sheriff put in office by other Radicals in Congress when the South was under martial law after the war. Following his name is the caption: "Killed by the Ku Klux Klan.

@@stevepierce6467 what's the rest of the story on Forrest ? Tell the whole story.

@@marksaucier See my humbled response to BirdDogg just below after he reminded me of NBF's later apparent change of heart and positive contributions.

Outstanding

Did you join the Son's of Confederate Veterans Semper Fi

@markadkins9290 I at one time paid for the Tennessee license plate that had the small battle flag, and it supports the daughters of Confederate Veterans if l remember correctly, but I used get pulled over more because of the plate. Semper Fidelis, my friend.

3 you say?

Two comments re Forrest. Fort Pillow Massacre of surrendered black union prisoners, a war crime even then, and founder of the KKK.

May the Good Lord richly bless his soul. Deo Vindice.

My GG Grandfather was captured there in Fox's Gap on 9/14/62. Near Boonsboro. He was exchanged about a month later, so sick that he died in a Richmond hospital, & is buried there. 20th NC

God Bless him. And God bless our North Carolina

May his descendants sing praises to his name until the Stars burn out.

THANK YOU, from a southerner

I always had an affinity with the Conferderacy too since first grade. Could never understand why for a long time. I guess maybe they seemed more wild and fierce. Same as dinosaurs to other kids(?)@@rodread1531

who's liberty?

When you see these old guys, how many look like rich, property owners? Most Southern soldier were poor farmers that were drafted into repelling who they saw as invaders of their home States.

@@scottenlow5249 The south invaded Fort Sumter first.

How fascinating, I am actually working up a series on the world wars, looking forward to diving into their history more. Both of my grandfathers and great grandfathers, as well as my father, my mother and myself all served in the US armed forces. 🫡

@@BirdDogg OK. Another story of American and Australian co-operation. In 2018 I visited the WWI battlefields of France and Belgium. At Le Hamel in France the Stars and Stripes and Southern Cross fly side by side at the memorial there. The Australian Corps commander John Monash planned the battle there and had some Americans under his command to gain some experience with the Australians. He included them in his battle plans. When Pershing found out that they were to be used in an offensive action, he tried to have them withdrawn. Monash contacted the British 4th Army commander Rawlinson and basically said 'No Americans, no battle.' So the Americans participated. The date was July 4 1918 Pershing could hardly complain when Monash praised the American effort and a number were awarded British decorations, and one was later awarded the Medal of Honour. Le Hamel was brilliant set piece in which Monash combined tanks, artillery, infantry and aircraft in novel ways. The aircraft resuplied the advancing troops from the air. It was planned to take 90 minutes. It took 93. Monash repeated the tactics on a larger scale on August 8 when the Australian and Canadian Corps spearheaded the attack at the Battle of Amiens which Ludendorff called the Black Day of the German army. It began the Hundred Day advance which ended with the armistice of November 11.

Been to Australia 6 times. Love the Assusies "good day Mate!!!

William O'Dwyer- 100th mayor off new York City was my grandfathers Cousin.- We use too talk about him at the Dinner table on Grandads 1,300 acre farm - Gwavas B. on highway 50 - new zealand.- Grandad name was - Denis Thomas O'Dwyer.

The South lost, and the South is still the shittiest place on the planet.

That's right.

I tear up a bit when I see the old photos of slaves showing the whip scars on their backs.

Not me, must just be allergies kicking in a bit

The "freedom-loving" people? Who are these, the descendants of the ones who owned and whipped slaves?

yayyy

Slavery was against the law, democrats flouted that law, started a war that destroyed half the nation and they are at it again.

The Civil War was the Confederacy armed insurrection attempt to preserve their economic advantage of free agricultural labor. The only people who deny the overall importance of the South's slavery position are either white supremacists or very ignorant of US history. Possibly both! John Brown's attack on northern Virginia's arms store had nothing to do with states rights and everything to do with the institution of slavery. This event occurred even after blood was already shed in the name of emancipation in Kansas bloody Kansas. Consequently, if Brown could've been successful or even destroyed that Harper's Ferry armory the Civil War could've been avoided. Those 100,000 rifles are what armed the South's foot soldiers for the first two years of the conflict.

Time for the south to rise again?!

Too bad they treated a whole race of humans like cattle, but I know there was more to it for the brave men that did the actual fighting. Isn't that how all wars are though?

John Brown wasn't terrorizing good olé Virginny for States Rights I do believe! Had he succeeded in destroying that armory of a 100,000 rifles at Harper's Ferry the Army of Northern Virginia wouldve had no guns for the first two years of the Civil War. As many of them laid strewn across farm fields, a bloody lane, and stone bridge crossing a little creek name Antietam in a 1862 Maryland town named Sharpsburg.

And it, along with every other asinine thing this city has done has really changed everyone’s future. Nope, they’re still killing each other left and right.

He literally founded and led the KKK. Hell no

I had the honor of riding my horse in escort of the hearse bearing his and Mary Ann's casket when they were transported from Memphis to his boyhood home in Chapel Hill the day before it was carried to Elm Springs. It was an emotional moment for certain.

These modern day fools led by a race baiter like Barack HUSSEIN Obama like to lie & cover up history & facts. Wish someone would print the truth about Bedford. May be able to do research on your own..if it hasn't been taken down. The truth that is. He did a lot after the war. Built schools for children of former slaves. A lot of his slaves rode with him. Misled into lending his name to the KKK. Thanks N.C. Genl. Earl van Dorn. Demanded it be disbanded when he found out. His grandson..Nathan Bedford Forrest-3 was shot down in a B-17 over France in 1942. Either a Lt. General or Brig. General. He wanted to get a better look at the layout to help his men. Leading from the front. These worthless modern liberal led by race baiters like Barack HUSSEIN Obama have distorted history. The record needs corrected

​@@markchoate9021Indeed. Quite the honor.

I don't know I think some of it is 40s. But they were showing a jet in the US didn't have Jets till after World War II. So some of it may have even been 50s

I thought all of the Civil War veterans were all dead by 1920's.

@@hubertwalters4300 you would think so but you'd be wrong

@@hubertwalters43001930s but I’m sure a handful made it to the 40s/50s, tougher generation than even the Greatest Generation was in my opinion.

F86 Sabre Jet, Korean War early 1950s

If we assume he was about 20 in 1862, sounds reasonable, doesn't it, then he'd be 110 years old in 1952 in front of this F86! Kinda odd though, no?

@@franckym65 🤷🏽‍♂️maybe

Yeah, I was a bit skeptical, but even if he was born about 1848, lied about his age which was easier to do back then, was 16 when he joined, he'd be about 103 in the film? Possible, I guess.@@franckym65

Maybe he was a drummer boy. 9 to 12 years was not uncommon.

Keep doing great content like the above. Thanks

Who won the war (lol)

@@jds6206 Traitors, insurrectionists, racists, losers... Sounds like any 2024 bankrupts / convicted rapists ?

Damn right theres a few of us left man

@@tbone6203 Confederates are losers who can't get normal weight girlfriends, and have given their money to trumputin (born New York yankee)

And a Godly man,he refused to let his troups mount an insergentcy,he was honored by his troups.He ended up the president OF LSU.THE slavery issue took the fight out of many Confederate soldiers.The north did not have might of the right until they freed the slaves,it only freed them in the states in rebellion,by the way.

And a loser. He surrendered to Grant.

@@vernieistooold He was 3 times the general that the drunk was and he sold our country back to the city of London bankers that are pilliging our country to this very day.Go LSU tigers that's where Lee went,Grant mismanaged the country as president and had horrible graft going.

​@@user-cn7np8fj7cWashington & Lee college n Lexington VA

​@@vernieistoooldRather cocky aren't u.

Out classed ? Grant took The Impregnable Vicksburg .And Sherman kicked Ass ,As Did Stonewall Jackson ,Forrest was good too ,Excuses for losing War ! If Grant was given Comnand from the Start war would have been over in two Years !!

​@@darylhoskins5696 wrong. Grant would have faced The ANV in it's prime. There's a reason Grant was called a "butcher". Casualties would have been significantly higher in the AOP.

@@darylhoskins5696I agree with Tim. Ironically, if Grant was leading from the start I think the war would have been LOST in 2 years for the Union. Reason being exactly as mentioned; Grant was good at throwing large numbers towards problems regardless of casualties. The ANV would have slaughtered so many so fast that the North would have totally rethought whether fighting would have been worth it. Grant was nothing special he was a coward, butcher, hater of his own countrymen, drunk, corrupt, womanizer, and gambler. But yeah let’s applaud him over true noble sons of the South (most of which traced lineage to before the American Rev. or family served in the American Rev. opposed by mostly new/ foreign Yankees with drinking problems).

Ran out of food. Gen. Lee's troops were starving.

​@@darylhoskins5696ding dong, Stonewall Jackson was a Confederate General.

Indeed!

If only I knew!

Bird Dog I love your call sign we must be a kind of soul mates as I had participated in quail hunts with my dad and neighbors so I'm very familiar with the sporting breeds of English Setters and Pointers. I having lived in Vicksburg one can't escape a historical perspective of civil war and fan of N B Forrest. Legend has it Prince Philip the famous Mount of Forrest had somehow delivered to him from Vicksburg before the siege had ended I also like the background music it has that relaxing Celtic blend.

Independence from what? What caused the South to secede?

What were the taxes that caused the Civil War? The tariff, a tax on imported goods, was the sole cause of the war. Northern manufacturers, who had gained political control in northern states, wanted the government to lay heavy taxes on foreign commerce to "protect" their domestic business. The morrill tax act.

@@LostInMarxismdemocrats

History’s narrative is always rewritten by the victors to suite their points of views.

@@John-uv7zpfunny back then it was reversed... the southern states were majority democrat and the north republican... but i understand what you meant

I need to come metal detecting. Haha.

You mean the traitors of the south? They took up arms against the USA…traitors every one of them!

Auburndale still exists. Nice place.

But they allowed the rich slave-owning class to draft them into a war.

They didn't own slaves because they couldn't afford them . Not because they were against slavery .

And you know that HOW?

Funny how ahh had a dream off twin towers falling in july 2001 near u.s.a. embassy in new zealand and neaxt day met a Cherokee lady from U.S.A. - ????????

I've been to every single crappy southern state and they all suck. The weather sucks too. The people are racist and uneducated and constantly rely on others for cash including educated blue states. The South is the nations dump and that includes the awful State of Texas.

What a horrible prostitution of the word "Patriot!" NBF founded the Ku Klux Klan after the war.

If those Yankee soldiers could have seen what has become of our country, they would have deserted to the South.

The South has always been a shithole because of your racism. Enjoy your "valiant" loss.

Forrest's grandson was killed on a bombing mission over Germany.

Brig Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest III US Army Air Force was flying in a B-17 as an officer obsever so as to be oriented to the combat operations of the Eighth Air Force, Eighth Bomber Command as he was scheduled to take command of an Air Division. The plane that he was flying in was damaged as the result of a German fighter attack or anti-aircraft fire(flak) with both pilots wounded. Gen Forrest volunteered to fly the plane so that the crew could bail out. Before he could bail out, the plane either exploded or went into a high speed dive that prevented him from bailing out so that he was killed in action. His body was found by a German army unit and buried in the nearest German cemetery until the war ended and his remains were returned to the US. He was recommended for the Congressional Medal of Honor but was awarded a lesser decoration possibly the Distinguished Service Medal. The decision was made at US Army Air Force Headquarters in Washington D C as well as in the White House and one source alledged that his being denied the Congressional Medal of Honor was a politically motivated one as he was the grandson of Gen Forrest, a former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and a potential untried war criminal guilty of the Fort Pillow Massacre in which his unit massacred white officers and black soldiers who garrisoned the fort. It is unfortunate that such an outstanding airman and brave officer should be denied the medal that many think that he earned but then enduring feelings about past events often continue to influence the events of today. I find it interesting that often those in a positions of authority that make such decisions have never served, never served in combat or are willing to go along with flawed policies even though their past combat experience tells them that they should oppose such policies. When these individuals have been granted authority to make defense policy and employ forces the result is a disaster as it is today. @@colkelley

​@@user-lh1hd8ss9iThank you for sharing.

@@user-lh1hd8ss9i - FYI, there was a Congressional Investigation in 1871 chaired by Sherman to investigate the KKK/Forrest and the results were not only that Forrest DID NOT form the KKK or serve as Imperial Wizard but tried to get it to disband, and that there was NO "Ft. Pillow Massacre" (the 1864 "investigation was simply wartime propaganda). If you actually research history and look through the Federal Official Records of the War of the Rebellion (published by the Federal government) you find a receipt from the Acting Captain of the U.S. (Union) Steamer Silver Cloud in which he acknowledged receiving the most seriously wounded United States Colored Troops from Forrest's Adjutant. Critics should try using a tiny bit of critical thinking and realize that NO ONE committing a "massacre" would be concerned about getting proper treatment for seriously wounded Colored Troops. The barracks that were burned were burned by Union troops at the orders of the Acting Commanding Officer of Ft. Pillow. We are still suffering the effects of two myths: The "Saint Lincoln Myth"; the "Union good, South bad" myth. Actually, the only person tried or convicted as a war criminal from the Civil War was a Union officer, Colonel Turchin, for ordering his troops to spend five days to lay waste to undefended Athens, Alabama. He was charged, Court Martialed and convicted of war crimes. The Court Martial recommended that he be discharged and spend two years in prison. Saint Lincoln instead pardoned Turchin (thought to be a former Russian officer whose real name was Turchinsky) and additionally promoted him to Brigadier General. So Saint Lincoln pardoned AND promoted the only convicted war criminal of the Civil War. It's a pity that fairy stories still replace actual documented history BTW, I am a Vietnam air combat Veteran (my father was a WW2 Pacific Navy carrier Veteran) and if you go to the Appomattox Surrender Grounds the Kelley House belonged to my Great-great Granduncle and the Surrender Triangle belonged to my Great-great Grandfather.

​@user-lh1hd8ss9i In instances like this, we trust that the Lord's reward is far superior to any recognition from man.

Wow!

And what about their land?

They already have risen. The south were the Democrats. Democrats are in charge of the country. Biden is president. There is science fields forcing COVID vaccines. Planned Parenthood selling baby parts. Mostly of the 55 million back baby's they killed. So there doing good it seems like

The idiots will continue to believe. The outcome will be the same.

What you mean by the south will rise again? They lost, slaves were freed.

Hmmmm, freedom from tyranny? Whose tyranny? The tyranny of those who used "honest toil" of slaves to get their land, those who left terrible whip scars seen in photographs of freed slaves?

Ah, the photos of whip scars on the backs of freed slaves attests to the "noble way of life!"

For the same reason statues & flags are taken down in the UK: to erase history, men, Christianity & nationhood. The flag of Pakistan was flown over Westminster Abbey (!) in place of the Union Jack for a day (23 Mar. 2024). We've all let ourselves be taken over.

They were erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy during the Jim Crow era to intimidate the Black population. Robert E Lee himself said there should be no monuments. They should be, and in some cases were, moved to locations other than public property such as cemeteries and museums.

Thanks, the song title is “dude, where’s my horse”

Thanks Mark, share if you can, I’ve been trying to get these in front of SCV eyes since the series started!

@@BirdDogg I'll see what I can do. It might be better to try with the local camps, like Nashville and the MS AL. I know the family or SCV camp of the widdler would love this. I know I was so happy to finally get a picture of my grandfather in front of the battle flag wearing his ribbon. I've also been to his grave.

Still here, aren’t we? Defeated, but didn’t give in.

I believe they were filmed in Mississippi and Memphis

@@BirdDogg thanks for the come back much appreciated

Too bad Americans don't know a LOT of things. I wonder what life in the south would be like today with an entirely opposite outcome?

It was about slavery. They considered slaves to be property… like a farm animal. Wanted to keep their “property”.

Yes, a states right to own slaves. Each states succession documents declare their right to keep slaves. Google is free.

As a northerners, I agree.

​​@@vernieistoooldIs that right? How come the northern states passed a proposed constitutional amendment through both the House and the Senate to make slavery permanent where it existed? Why did the north pass a resolution in Congress saying the war was not to interfere with slavery where it existed?

Martyrs? HEROES!

@@LostInMarxismHeroes Commemorated for what they achieved or Martyrs Commemorated for sacrificing for their beliefs or faiths.

@@dustyak79 Indeed. These gents were not conscripted (like the Federal Army) rather they volunteered to fight against a government which violated its own Constitutional Law in waging war upon the South.

@@LostInMarxism Let's see if I remember....it was the South who fired on Ft. Sumter and started seceding. I actually did study history.

@@stevepierce6467 Your academic "history" was subverted. You may wish to research: 1) Southern states legally seceding, per U.S. Constitutional law, after near twenty years of violent debate on the congressional floor. 2) The Federal Government first blockaded the South's primary commerce port and landed its troops ashore to seize its attached city prior to Fort Sumter. 3) The fact Northern states had slavery too. In fact, there were sub-Saharan men who owned sub-Saharan slaves... in the Federal "North". Must I continue?

Thanks for stopping by and visiting Tennessee!

@@BirdDogg Time well spent I assure you. Need you to be my tour guide next time I get to Tennessee. Last 2 visits left little time for visits to battlefields etc.... Blessings on you and the work your doing!

But they were traitors who lost the war. You forget that part.

Our nation has turned full circle in the 150 yrs.since the war. Now , Democrates are the oppressive power, Republicans ,for the most part are the conservatives, holding on to the principals of Constitutional Law.

That's where Joe met Cornpop.

Even a quick study of Lincolns war would educate you. Read the book, "The Real Lincoln".

@@thomaswayneward Dont have to. I payed attention in history class. I was born and raised in Flroida and was taught that slave states succeded from the Union becuase of "State Rights". Several weeks before CSA formed Alexander Stevens made the infamous corner stone speech in Georiga. Southeners provoke the north and cryed foul play once Lincoln made provivisional moves whilst the south was growing more hostile against federal properties and forts in the south. You can try to rewrite history but you cant change the history itself

@@Rkmangoes You must have been taught by one of the yankees that moved to Florida. You so wrong it would take a week to try to get through to you with the truth, so do try to wise up. Damn SMH

@@bloodybones63 The corner stone speech, the articles of succession states of Georgia, South Carolina, and Mississippi stated that, "due to the hostility towards the institution of slavery that we have no choice but to succeed from the union". From the start of the Confederation of America (before it was called the United States of America) the framers didn't want to outlaw slavery outright in fear that the southern states would not join the United States of America. In the Federalist papers, Alexander Hamilton made a point that a United Country would best serve the neighboring state just like the United Kingdown deter anythreat to the neighboring states of the British Island. During the drafting of the new constitution for the reasons of the Article of Confederation, most of the time, arguing was about the representation of the number of slaves in the south. The southern states and the framers compromised with the 3/5 compromise, hence Artical 1, Section 2, Clause 3, House of Representatives reads; Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. This clause would be repealed by the 13th and 14th Amendments. Furthermore, the formation of the KKK and Jim Crowe featured more prejudice towards black people, especially towards former slaves, in the south. So tell me again why, according to you, lost cause folks think the civil war isn't about slavery? One more thing ever single CSA Soldier that died are still American. I like to make that point clearly.